Agence de voyage pour entrer dans le désert du Sahara
by Poussin99
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Je pars au mois de mai avec une amie et nous voulions faire une excursion dans le désert. J'ai fait quelques recherches sur internet et je voudrais savoir si quelqu'un connais les agences ideal tour et sahara desert dream? Je me demande si ces agences sont fiables, car elles demandent de verser un dépôt avant même notre arrivée au Maroc. Si vous ne connaissez pas ces agences peut-être en connaissez vous d'autres avec qui je pourrais faire affaire. J'ai lu dans un des posts que c'était possible de partir de Ouarzazate et de se rendre à Merzouga avec une voiture de location. Ce n'est pas dangereux de se rendre dans le désert par nous même. Une fois rendu sur place (à Merzouga) est-ce que c'est possible de trouver un guide pour faire une promenade à dos de dromadaire et de dormir en bivouac?
Merci beaucoup!!!
Sophie
Ta question doit bien avoir quelques dizaines de réponses sur ce forum!
mais quand on aime on ne se lasse pas !
La circulation en voiture de loc au Maroc est facile et sure, sans problèmes d'orientation.
Merzouga n'a rien d'un désert, c'est un erg très fréquenté par les touristes, qui peuvent arriver au pied des dunes dans une bonne trentaine d'auberges à l'aide de n'importe véhicule.
Il est absolument inutile de réserver des mois à l'avance dans des agences surtout celles de Ouarzazate que tu cites qui vont t'imposer un transfert 4x4, inutile et surfacturé, qui de toute facon vont soustraiter avec les gens que tu vas rencontrer sur place dans les auberges.
Choisis 2 ou 3 auberges sur internet, récupère leurs numéros de téléphone, et contacte les la veille, ils te diront vers quelle heure arriver pour un bivouac dans le désert.
mais quand on aime on ne se lasse pas !
La circulation en voiture de loc au Maroc est facile et sure, sans problèmes d'orientation.
Merzouga n'a rien d'un désert, c'est un erg très fréquenté par les touristes, qui peuvent arriver au pied des dunes dans une bonne trentaine d'auberges à l'aide de n'importe véhicule.
Il est absolument inutile de réserver des mois à l'avance dans des agences surtout celles de Ouarzazate que tu cites qui vont t'imposer un transfert 4x4, inutile et surfacturé, qui de toute facon vont soustraiter avec les gens que tu vas rencontrer sur place dans les auberges.
Choisis 2 ou 3 auberges sur internet, récupère leurs numéros de téléphone, et contacte les la veille, ils te diront vers quelle heure arriver pour un bivouac dans le désert.
Bonjour
Si tu veux faire du "désert" c'est à dire le Sahara et le grand Erg Occidental, rien ne vaut l'Algérie !
Juste un conseil d'amie VF !
LILI
Si tu veux faire du "désert" c'est à dire le Sahara et le grand Erg Occidental, rien ne vaut l'Algérie !
Juste un conseil d'amie VF !
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
Après avoir fait la Tunisie, la Mauritanie, la Libye, le Niger, l'Egypte, et l'Algérie, je suis entièrement d'accord avec Tassili.Rien ne vaut l'Algérie.
C'est d'ailleurs grâce à Tassili si je suis allée en Algérie et je ne le regrette pas, au contraire.
C'est d'ailleurs grâce à Tassili si je suis allée en Algérie et je ne le regrette pas, au contraire.
Toi désert, compagnon de ma vie
Toi désert, le plus cher des amis
Si tu vas dans le desert, et que tu prends un guide il n'y a aucun risque.J'ai passé deux semaines dans la région de Djanet et tout était très calme.
J'attends la fin de l'année pour y retourner.
J'attends la fin de l'année pour y retourner.
Toi désert, compagnon de ma vie
Toi désert, le plus cher des amis
Vous serez plus en sécurité en Algérie côté Sahara qu'ailleurs où la drague des jeunes touristes feminins est devenue un sport national !!!!!!!😠
Tout dépend ce que voudrez faire (durée, attentes, etc...) je pourrai vous conseiller !
LILI
N'oubliez pas que j'y habite !
Tout dépend ce que voudrez faire (durée, attentes, etc...) je pourrai vous conseiller !
LILI
N'oubliez pas que j'y habite !
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
🙂 Aucun danger au Maroc.
Louer une voiture a Marrakech, passer l'Atlas, Ouarzazate, une villa sans charme mais départ de belle balade, ensuite rejoindre Rissani, et les super dunes de Merzouga sont a 30 km au sud. Je crois que maintenant, il y a une jolie route. Les dunes de Merzouga sont exceptionnelles. Très tôt, genre 6 h du matin, vous pouvez rouler dessus sans ensabler. Pour vous faire un peu "peur", revenez à Rissani, et partez plein ouest pour rejoindre Zagora par la piste. Ça se fait dans la journée. Il y a 30 ans rien n' était balisé, on a eu un peu la trouille avec la vieille Renault 4 de location. Mais c'est passé...Et les dunes étaient "désertes". Pas de cabane. Pour le tour du chameau, c'est comme les gondoles a Venise, prudence !
Et a Zagora, au lieu de rentrer vers la nord, direction Mhamid, plein sud. D'autres dunes mais moins impressionnantes quand on a vu Merzouga. Et y a aussi des tours de chameau. Bonne route et décontractez vous !
La terre est grande et ce sera toujours mieux que de rester le cul sur une chaise.
En voyant le titre de ton sujet je pensais que tu voulais partir en Algérie !
Je ne saurai pas te conseiller précisémment sur le désert marocain, mais je confirme ce qu'ont dit Tassili et Mimidésert concernant l'Algérie et le désert.
J'ai voyagé seule en Algérie (sac à dos) et je n'ai jamais eu de problèmes. Par contre j'aurais quelques anecdotes "croustillantes" sur mon expérience de touriste fille européenne au Maroc ou en Tunisie (propositions de soirées douteuses, "erreurs" sur les prix, mains baladeuses, insultes quand je n'achetais pas...). Je ne veux pas généraliser... mais au cours de mon "circuit maghrébin" l'Algérie a été une véritable bouffée d'oxygène pour moi !
Désolée, pour ce "hors sujet" mais quand on aime un pays on ne peut pas s'empêcher d'en parler.
Cependant, le Maroc vaut le détour !
Si après le Marcoc tu es tentée par l'Algérie, n'hésite pas à nous demander des conseils. Bon voyage.
J'ai voyagé seule en Algérie (sac à dos) et je n'ai jamais eu de problèmes. Par contre j'aurais quelques anecdotes "croustillantes" sur mon expérience de touriste fille européenne au Maroc ou en Tunisie (propositions de soirées douteuses, "erreurs" sur les prix, mains baladeuses, insultes quand je n'achetais pas...). Je ne veux pas généraliser... mais au cours de mon "circuit maghrébin" l'Algérie a été une véritable bouffée d'oxygène pour moi !
Désolée, pour ce "hors sujet" mais quand on aime un pays on ne peut pas s'empêcher d'en parler.
Cependant, le Maroc vaut le détour !
Si après le Marcoc tu es tentée par l'Algérie, n'hésite pas à nous demander des conseils. Bon voyage.
À vous lire, je croirais que j'aurais moins de problèmes comme touriste féminine en Algérie qu'au Maroc. Je m'attend à me faire observer et à devoir être un peu franche et directe avec les marocains mais est-ce vraiment épouvantable comme situation? À quoi dois-je m'attendre face aux Marocains? Je sais que je dois m'habiller de manière à ne pas les provoquer mais est ce que même en respectant leurs coûtumes je vais me faire harceler (façon de parler, bien entendu!!!)?
Sophie
bonjour. je te vois hésitante aprés avoir fait ton choix.est-ce un trait de ton caractère qui émerge soudain
ou la peur de l'inconnu.
pour les dires des gens sans scrupule, verifie les témoignages des français sur le maroc et tu seras plus que rassuré.
l'algerie est plus sure ? oui mais c'était dans les années 1800.
à plus
pour les dires des gens sans scrupule, verifie les témoignages des français sur le maroc et tu seras plus que rassuré.
l'algerie est plus sure ? oui mais c'était dans les années 1800.
à plus
A quoi faut-il t'attendre ? A ce que j'ai cité dans mon précédent message.
Il y en a certaines que ça amuse... 🤪 Personnellement, ça m'exaspère de passer pour la touriste "vache à lait" et plus...
sous prétexte que je suis une jeune femme occidentale !
Quant à ton idée d' "être un peu franche et directe avec les marocains" je pense que ça n'est pas la bonne idée... car la discussion se terminera par des insultes que tu ne comprendras pas (faute de maitriser la langue) 🏴☠️.
De toute façon, pour te faire ta propre idée je te conseille pour une 1ère expérience du maghreb d'aller dans les pays "ultra touristiques" et un peu "aseptisés" (tunisie-maroc). Ces pays ont des structures et une organisation touristique bien rodée pour satisfaire l'envie d'exotisme des occidentaux (tu pourras visiter les fameuses "fêtes du mouton", les ateliers ou les coopératives où les employées ne se mettent à leur poste de travail que lorsqu'un car de touristes arrive... c'est un peu Disneyland... mais les occidentaux sont contents et les locaux aussi !)
Ensuite, tu pourras choisir d'autres pays moins touristiques et tu feras la différence par toi-même !
Quant à la sécurité à laquelle fait allusion Sebbar dans son message, je lui suggérerai de se remémorrer le nombre de touristes morts au Maroc ces dernières années dans les accidents de car à cause d'intermédiaires touristiques pseudo-professionnels et sans scrupules ! Ca fait partie des dérives du système... tout le monde s'improvise guide, agence de voyage, transporteur... aux risques et périls des touristes 😠
sous prétexte que je suis une jeune femme occidentale !
Quant à ton idée d' "être un peu franche et directe avec les marocains" je pense que ça n'est pas la bonne idée... car la discussion se terminera par des insultes que tu ne comprendras pas (faute de maitriser la langue) 🏴☠️.De toute façon, pour te faire ta propre idée je te conseille pour une 1ère expérience du maghreb d'aller dans les pays "ultra touristiques" et un peu "aseptisés" (tunisie-maroc). Ces pays ont des structures et une organisation touristique bien rodée pour satisfaire l'envie d'exotisme des occidentaux (tu pourras visiter les fameuses "fêtes du mouton", les ateliers ou les coopératives où les employées ne se mettent à leur poste de travail que lorsqu'un car de touristes arrive... c'est un peu Disneyland... mais les occidentaux sont contents et les locaux aussi !)
Ensuite, tu pourras choisir d'autres pays moins touristiques et tu feras la différence par toi-même !
Quant à la sécurité à laquelle fait allusion Sebbar dans son message, je lui suggérerai de se remémorrer le nombre de touristes morts au Maroc ces dernières années dans les accidents de car à cause d'intermédiaires touristiques pseudo-professionnels et sans scrupules ! Ca fait partie des dérives du système... tout le monde s'improvise guide, agence de voyage, transporteur... aux risques et périls des touristes 😠
Bonjour
En lisant un peu l'ensemble des interventions, plutôt des conseils, je me suis rendu compte qu 'elles ne refletent que des expériences spécifiques à chaque intervenant. C'est le but certainement. Toutefois, il est quelque peu erroné d'assimiler ces expériences à des vérités constantes et valables . Pour ma part, il est plus judicieux de consulter l'oppinon publique et internationale. Le Maroc sera certainement placé en tête grace à sa diversité culturelle, humaine et autres. Revenons au Désert, le choix reste ouvert car tous les pays du Maghreb sont les mêmes et arrêtons de généraliser quand l'avis n'est que personnelle: chacun peut raconter son expérience dans tel ou tel pays mais il faut laisser à l'autre le soin de l'interpréter car nous n'avons pas tous la même perception des choses.
cordialement
En lisant un peu l'ensemble des interventions, plutôt des conseils, je me suis rendu compte qu 'elles ne refletent que des expériences spécifiques à chaque intervenant. C'est le but certainement. Toutefois, il est quelque peu erroné d'assimiler ces expériences à des vérités constantes et valables . Pour ma part, il est plus judicieux de consulter l'oppinon publique et internationale. Le Maroc sera certainement placé en tête grace à sa diversité culturelle, humaine et autres. Revenons au Désert, le choix reste ouvert car tous les pays du Maghreb sont les mêmes et arrêtons de généraliser quand l'avis n'est que personnelle: chacun peut raconter son expérience dans tel ou tel pays mais il faut laisser à l'autre le soin de l'interpréter car nous n'avons pas tous la même perception des choses.
cordialement
vivre un jour au désert comme nomade, c'est acquérir à vie une manière de survie.(A.Habouby)
"...pour les dires des gens sans scrupule, verifie les témoignages des français sur le maroc et tu seras plus que rassuré.
l'algerie est plus sure ? oui mais c'était dans les années 1800. "
Je confirme certaines attitudes pas très nettes vis à vis des jeunes femmes voyageant seule au Maroc! J'ai eu à le vivre personnellement en compagnie de deux amies, et ce sur plusieurs voyages dans ce pays. Il est vrai que ce comportement changeait dès que nous parlions en arabe, mais il est triste de voir ce que le tourisme tous azimut peut développer comme comportement chez certains. Mais ce qui est plus triste encore c'est de lire ces surenchères de la part de "voisins" qui n'hésitent pas à montrer combien ils sont contents de la mauvaise fortune d'un pays qui a tellement à offrir.
Nicha
l'algerie est plus sure ? oui mais c'était dans les années 1800. "
Je confirme certaines attitudes pas très nettes vis à vis des jeunes femmes voyageant seule au Maroc! J'ai eu à le vivre personnellement en compagnie de deux amies, et ce sur plusieurs voyages dans ce pays. Il est vrai que ce comportement changeait dès que nous parlions en arabe, mais il est triste de voir ce que le tourisme tous azimut peut développer comme comportement chez certains. Mais ce qui est plus triste encore c'est de lire ces surenchères de la part de "voisins" qui n'hésitent pas à montrer combien ils sont contents de la mauvaise fortune d'un pays qui a tellement à offrir.
Nicha
le temps d'apprendre à vivre, il est déjà trop tard ( Aragon)
bonsoir NICHA.
content des malheurs des autres?
sans commentaire parce que ne tu connais que trop les marocains et leur grand coeur.
pour revenir à mes dires;peux-tu me dire si des jeunes algériennes peuvent
se promener dans les rues et ruelles de ANNABA ou ALGER sans etre inquietés
par ces jeunes ou vieux d'ailleur cloué aux coins des rues ou se délassant sur les terasses des cafés. je te croyais plus intelligente pour comprendre mes propos.
n'éssaie pas de me répondre.l'affaire est close. nous sommes sur ce forum pour rendre service à qui cherche renseignement.
cordialement.
content des malheurs des autres?
sans commentaire parce que ne tu connais que trop les marocains et leur grand coeur.
pour revenir à mes dires;peux-tu me dire si des jeunes algériennes peuvent
se promener dans les rues et ruelles de ANNABA ou ALGER sans etre inquietés
par ces jeunes ou vieux d'ailleur cloué aux coins des rues ou se délassant sur les terasses des cafés. je te croyais plus intelligente pour comprendre mes propos.
n'éssaie pas de me répondre.l'affaire est close. nous sommes sur ce forum pour rendre service à qui cherche renseignement.
cordialement.
Comment on peut comparer les pays du maghreb, en disant qu'ils sont tous pareils, alors qu'ils sont tous tellement différents !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Aussi bien dans le tourisme exploité (tourisme de masse pour 2 d'entre eux....), que dans le comportement avec les touristes (liés au tourisme de masse...)... les superficies ne sont pas du tout les même ! Les traditions, comportement, etc... ne sont pas comparables....
Et j'en parle librement ayant vécu plus ou moins longuement dans 3 pays ! Et pas comme touriste (heureusement, mais j'ai eu l'occasion d'observer longuement certaines situations...) !
Le Sahara se trouve principalement en Algérie, pour ceux qui l'ignorent (il s'agit d'une vérité géographique !).....
LILI
Aussi bien dans le tourisme exploité (tourisme de masse pour 2 d'entre eux....), que dans le comportement avec les touristes (liés au tourisme de masse...)... les superficies ne sont pas du tout les même ! Les traditions, comportement, etc... ne sont pas comparables....
Et j'en parle librement ayant vécu plus ou moins longuement dans 3 pays ! Et pas comme touriste (heureusement, mais j'ai eu l'occasion d'observer longuement certaines situations...) !
Le Sahara se trouve principalement en Algérie, pour ceux qui l'ignorent (il s'agit d'une vérité géographique !).....
LILI
Il n'y a personne qui soit née sous une mauvaise étoile, il n'y a que des gens qui ne savent pas lire le ciel. (Dalaï Lama)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
mais rien ni personne ne vient à bout de ceux qui défendent une cause juste... (Mano Dayak)
Bonjour
Chacun de nous a le droit de penser ce qu'il veut mais il n'a pas le droit de penser pour les autres. Je salue votre bravour et votre participation engagée pour le developpement des régions du sud de l'Algérie. C'est louable comme action ou comme commerce( selon votre profil afiché sur le site) Contrairement à moi, je ne suis ni Tour opérateur, ni agent de voyages et je n'ai pas de chambres d'hôtes à louer, ni au Maroc ni ailleurs. c'est pourquoi, je parle de l'ensemble SAHARA SAHEL sans exception et quand je dis que tout le Maghreb vaut le détour c'est parce que je considère qu'il n ya pas de différences entre ces cinq pays, du moins c'est ce que je souhaite: Les Maghrébins comprendront. On ne peut être plus altruiste que cela.
cordialement
Chacun de nous a le droit de penser ce qu'il veut mais il n'a pas le droit de penser pour les autres. Je salue votre bravour et votre participation engagée pour le developpement des régions du sud de l'Algérie. C'est louable comme action ou comme commerce( selon votre profil afiché sur le site) Contrairement à moi, je ne suis ni Tour opérateur, ni agent de voyages et je n'ai pas de chambres d'hôtes à louer, ni au Maroc ni ailleurs. c'est pourquoi, je parle de l'ensemble SAHARA SAHEL sans exception et quand je dis que tout le Maghreb vaut le détour c'est parce que je considère qu'il n ya pas de différences entre ces cinq pays, du moins c'est ce que je souhaite: Les Maghrébins comprendront. On ne peut être plus altruiste que cela.
cordialement
vivre un jour au désert comme nomade, c'est acquérir à vie une manière de survie.(A.Habouby)
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1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
I know there are experts on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency. If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling. We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback! Safe travels to all, Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency. If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling. We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback! Safe travels to all, Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.
hi,
I’m planning to take the SETE-TANGER ferry with my car.
No agency in my town sells tickets.
Has anyone done this before and can point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.
have a good day
I’m planning to take the SETE-TANGER ferry with my car.
No agency in my town sells tickets.
Has anyone done this before and can point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.
have a good day
Good evening, everyone!
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
Hi everyone! :)
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!