Chutes d'Iguaçu: arrivée sur le côté brésilien et départ du côté argentin
by Neléo
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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J"arriverais aux chutes du côté brésilien et je reprend l.avion du côté argentin 3 jours plus tard .Est-ce une bonne idée de coucher un soir du côté brésilien et 2 soirs côté argentin. Ou de coucher les 3 soirs au même endroit .
salut
va directement en argentine, c'est moins cher!!
mag
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Bonjour,
J'y étais il y a un mois. après un itinéraire au Brésil je poursuivais mon voyage en Argentine. Les chutes côté brésilien en 2/3h, c'est faisable et côté argentin 3/4 h.
Le "problème" c'est sortir (Brésil) et entrer (Argentine) légalement car les bus qui relient Foz et Puerto s'ils te déposent au poste frontière, ne t'attendent pas...donc il faut que tu attendes un autre bus...et si t'as pas le "bon" billet..il faut que tu attendes "ta" compagnie...ou alors t'achètes un autre billet (c'est pas cher).
Donc si tu veux pas "stresser" je te conseille de dormir en Argentine..surtout si tu viens du Brésil, cela te permettra de t'imprégner un peu de l'atmosphère argentine.
philippe
philippe
ca a peut etre change, mais il y a quelques années
tu descendais au terminal au bresil , prnait un bus sur la meme place pour l'argentine, et celui ci t'emmenait a la frontiere, ce bus te faisait descendre pour la douane et te reprenait de l'autre coté, avec le meme billet
mag
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Slt,
Je confirme : les bus n'attendent pas coté brésilien. Mais il suffit de reprendre le prochain de la même compagnie ou payer un nouveau ticket sur une autre. Et, on peut payer avantageusement en Pesos.
Les formalités de police coté Brésilien sont olé olé, bien organisées coté Argentin.
@+ Bonnes chutes.
Rouler Jeunesse
merci à tous,
lorsque j.arriverai à l.aéroport j, irais vers Foz de Iguacu pour prendre le bus pour Puerto Iguazu ou j.ai réservé une hôtel de ce côté.Je n, avais pas vraiment envie de me promener avec mes bagages pendant les deux premiers jours.De cette façon je vais visiter les deux côtés des chutes moins stressée n.ayant pas à déménager d.hôtel.
merci
neléo
P"S" : que me suggérez- vous comme façon de faire pour visiter les chutes , lesquelles en premier.
neléo
P"S" : que me suggérez- vous comme façon de faire pour visiter les chutes , lesquelles en premier.
moi je n'irais que du cote argentin
belle balade a fa ire , ne prend pas le petit train, bateau pour t'emener sur l'iles st martin(je crois) copris ds le prix de ton billet
le billet cote bresilien est tres cher
mag
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http://egyptenliberte.canalblog.com
non, je te conseille de ne pas visiter du coté bresilien, l'entrée est tres chere
et du coté argentin, il y a un petit train apres les caisses qui t'emmene au plus pres des chutes..ns ne l'avions pas pris pour l'allée, car la ballade est tres agreable a pieds, ensuite tu te promene ou tu veux, et tu as un bateau qui te traverse sur une petite ile, (la travesrée est comprise ds le prix du billet) apres si tu le veux , tu as d'autres bateaux qui s'approchent plus pres des chutes, ca peut etre sympa aussi!!
mag
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http://egyptenliberte.canalblog.com
Bonjour,
Mais, puisqu'elle arrive de l'aéroport de Foz, pourquoi se priver ? Iguaçu le vaut bien, que se soit de Puerto ou de Foz.
De plus le bus de ville qui passe à l'aéroport de Foz est peu cher et si on arrive tôt on peut alle directement aux chutes car c'est une station plus loin.
Le coté Brésilien est loin d'être fade et pour tout dire quand on ne l'a pas vu on ne peut pas saisir les chutes dans leur ensemble et passer des points de vues remarquables. C'est comme aux chutes Victoria si on shunte le coté du Zimbabwé. Il manque quelque chose et d'assez exceptionnel.
Cher ? sic ! L'entrée est quasi au même prix qu'en Argentine, hormis le parc qui n'est fait que de parties privatives attribuées en particulier à Macuco Safari pour activités ou découverte de faune. Là, c'est bien plus agréable à Puerto, c'est sûr, surtout les moons trips (3-4 j de pleine lune). Le train, à Puerto, c'est un dispostif pour rejoindre les diférents spots et circuits. Il fonctionne au gaz et permet de rejoindre la garganta del diablo, le circit inférieur et le circuit supérieur. On peut l'utiliser car gratuit ou marcher ou faire les deux car on a souvent envie de retourner à la garganta suivant les éclairages et pour l'effet surprise... toujour là lui ! Du coté Brésilien on peut aussi faire le survol en Hélico qui est abordable ce qui non négligeable car pas possible du coté Argentin, le tracé des frontières et les distances de survol ne le permetent pas ; idem aux chutes Victoria où l'hélico c'est coté Zambie. @=
Le coté Brésilien est loin d'être fade et pour tout dire quand on ne l'a pas vu on ne peut pas saisir les chutes dans leur ensemble et passer des points de vues remarquables. C'est comme aux chutes Victoria si on shunte le coté du Zimbabwé. Il manque quelque chose et d'assez exceptionnel.
Cher ? sic ! L'entrée est quasi au même prix qu'en Argentine, hormis le parc qui n'est fait que de parties privatives attribuées en particulier à Macuco Safari pour activités ou découverte de faune. Là, c'est bien plus agréable à Puerto, c'est sûr, surtout les moons trips (3-4 j de pleine lune). Le train, à Puerto, c'est un dispostif pour rejoindre les diférents spots et circuits. Il fonctionne au gaz et permet de rejoindre la garganta del diablo, le circit inférieur et le circuit supérieur. On peut l'utiliser car gratuit ou marcher ou faire les deux car on a souvent envie de retourner à la garganta suivant les éclairages et pour l'effet surprise... toujour là lui ! Du coté Brésilien on peut aussi faire le survol en Hélico qui est abordable ce qui non négligeable car pas possible du coté Argentin, le tracé des frontières et les distances de survol ne le permetent pas ; idem aux chutes Victoria où l'hélico c'est coté Zambie. @=
Rouler Jeunesse
L'entrée est quasi au même prix qu'en Argentine,
ah bon? http://www.cataratasdoiguacu.com.br/bilheteria_fr.htm au bresil 37 reais soit 15 € et des broutilles http://www.traveliguazu.com.ar/blog/precio-para-ingresar-a-las-cataratas.html en argentine 20 pesos soit 3,76€
quand meme, une petite difference, non?
ah bon? http://www.cataratasdoiguacu.com.br/bilheteria_fr.htm au bresil 37 reais soit 15 € et des broutilles http://www.traveliguazu.com.ar/blog/precio-para-ingresar-a-las-cataratas.html en argentine 20 pesos soit 3,76€
quand meme, une petite difference, non?
mag
http://sudam.canalblog.com (nos voyages en amerique du sud)
http://egyptenliberte.canalblog.com
L'entrée est quasi au même prix qu'en Argentine,
ah bon? http://www.cataratasdoiguacu.com.br/bilheteria_fr.htm au bresil 37 reais soit 15 € et des broutilles http://www.traveliguazu.com.ar/...a-las-cataratas.html en argentine 20 pesos soit 3,76€
quand meme, une petite difference, non?
yep un peu, mais comprend le bus. Peut-on se priver à ce point ? Faire ce déplacement et ne pas voir ? Arrriver à Foz et shunter cette visite. 15,16 Euros soit 100FF. Il ya au moins trois spot qu'on ne peut manquer en dehors des de la vue générale. Je suis plus circonspect sur le barrage. Mais bon si votre budjet ne tiend qu'à ça, dommage. Néanmoins, je vais récuperer les ticket d'il y a 2 et les billets d'il y a 15 jours... ça me chifonne. @+
ah bon? http://www.cataratasdoiguacu.com.br/bilheteria_fr.htm au bresil 37 reais soit 15 € et des broutilles http://www.traveliguazu.com.ar/...a-las-cataratas.html en argentine 20 pesos soit 3,76€
quand meme, une petite difference, non?
yep un peu, mais comprend le bus. Peut-on se priver à ce point ? Faire ce déplacement et ne pas voir ? Arrriver à Foz et shunter cette visite. 15,16 Euros soit 100FF. Il ya au moins trois spot qu'on ne peut manquer en dehors des de la vue générale. Je suis plus circonspect sur le barrage. Mais bon si votre budjet ne tiend qu'à ça, dommage. Néanmoins, je vais récuperer les ticket d'il y a 2 et les billets d'il y a 15 jours... ça me chifonne. @+
Rouler Jeunesse
... Les chutes côté brésilien en 2/3h, c'est faisable et côté argentin 3/4 h...
🤪 avec quelle compagnie aérienne ??
🤪 avec quelle compagnie aérienne ??
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Bonjour neléo,
Mon avis : dormir les 3 soirs au même endroit (de préférence en Argentine puisque le départ se fera coté Argentin) pour éviter de faire et défaire les bagages ! Mais ne pas se priver de visiter les chutes des 2 cotés de la frontière, car les points de vue sont différents et cela te donnera donc une vision d'ensemble. Aucun souci de transport entre les 2 pays, bus nombreux et pas chers.
Amicalement
Mon avis : dormir les 3 soirs au même endroit (de préférence en Argentine puisque le départ se fera coté Argentin) pour éviter de faire et défaire les bagages ! Mais ne pas se priver de visiter les chutes des 2 cotés de la frontière, car les points de vue sont différents et cela te donnera donc une vision d'ensemble. Aucun souci de transport entre les 2 pays, bus nombreux et pas chers.
Amicalement
L'entrée est quasi au même prix qu'en Argentine,
ah bon? http://www.cataratasdoiguacu.com.br/bilheteria_fr.htm au bresil 37 reais soit 15 € et des broutilles http://www.traveliguazu.com.ar/...a-las-cataratas.html en argentine 20 pesos soit 3,76€
quand meme, une petite difference, non?
Salut, Pas encore remis la main sur ces foutus billets d'il y deux ans et ceux du mois dernier sont chez ma fille. Mais ça me chiffonnais tellement que j'ai repris les liens donnés et il faut bien lire quand même, notamment sur traveliguazu et j'ai souligné le tarif pour étrangers :
Categorías de acceso Acceso diario Generales mayores de 12 años $ 20 Discapacitados y menores de 6 años Gratuito Niños entre 6 y 12 años de Misiones $ 4 Niños entre 6 y 12 años nacionales $ 7 Jubilados de Misiones $ 4 Residentes misioneros $ 7 Jubilados y pensionados $ 7 Residentes en Puerto Iguazú y Andresito Gratuito Residentes en países del Mercosur $ 30 Demás extranjeros no residentes $ 60..................................... Soit 11,5 Euros Niños entre 6 y 12 residentes en el Mercosur $ 15 Niños entre 6 y 12 años extranjeros no residente $ 30
C'est pas pareil ! ça me paraissait tellement ridicule aussi ; moins de 5 Euros de différence ; les prix sont donnés en $ARS. @+
ah bon? http://www.cataratasdoiguacu.com.br/bilheteria_fr.htm au bresil 37 reais soit 15 € et des broutilles http://www.traveliguazu.com.ar/...a-las-cataratas.html en argentine 20 pesos soit 3,76€
quand meme, une petite difference, non?
Salut, Pas encore remis la main sur ces foutus billets d'il y deux ans et ceux du mois dernier sont chez ma fille. Mais ça me chiffonnais tellement que j'ai repris les liens donnés et il faut bien lire quand même, notamment sur traveliguazu et j'ai souligné le tarif pour étrangers :
Categorías de acceso Acceso diario Generales mayores de 12 años $ 20 Discapacitados y menores de 6 años Gratuito Niños entre 6 y 12 años de Misiones $ 4 Niños entre 6 y 12 años nacionales $ 7 Jubilados de Misiones $ 4 Residentes misioneros $ 7 Jubilados y pensionados $ 7 Residentes en Puerto Iguazú y Andresito Gratuito Residentes en países del Mercosur $ 30 Demás extranjeros no residentes $ 60..................................... Soit 11,5 Euros Niños entre 6 y 12 residentes en el Mercosur $ 15 Niños entre 6 y 12 años extranjeros no residente $ 30
C'est pas pareil ! ça me paraissait tellement ridicule aussi ; moins de 5 Euros de différence ; les prix sont donnés en $ARS. @+
Rouler Jeunesse
Bonjour,
Je viens de lire vos échanges de post pour ce qui est de la visite des chutes d'Iguazu et je me permets de vous poser une question.
Voilà : l'année prochaine en mars nous avons programmé la traversée de l'Atlantique avec un bateau de croisière de COSTA au départ du Brésil pour rentrer sur Marseille. Nous partons de Santos le 16 mars. Et avant nous avons prévu d'aller viisiter les chutes d'Iguazu.
Pour ce qui est de nous rendre au Brésil j'ai le choix pour l'avion d'atterrir soit à Foz au Brésil soit à Puerto en Argentine; nous partirons de France le 11 mars et serons donc là-bas le 12 dans l'après-midi. Nous repartirons pour Sao Paulo ( ou Santos ) le 15.
Alors vaut-il mieux louer un hôtel pour les 3 nuits ( du 12 au 15 ) à Puerto ou à Foz de façon à nous éviter le souci des valises à transporter?
Quels sont les conseils que vous pourriez me donner pou organiser nos journées du 13 et 14 pour profiter au mieux du spectacle des chutes et peut-être de ce qu'il y a à côté ( sans tomber dans les pièges à gogos ! )?
Merci par avance si vous pouvez m'apporter ces précisions.
Je viens de lire vos échanges de post pour ce qui est de la visite des chutes d'Iguazu et je me permets de vous poser une question.
Voilà : l'année prochaine en mars nous avons programmé la traversée de l'Atlantique avec un bateau de croisière de COSTA au départ du Brésil pour rentrer sur Marseille. Nous partons de Santos le 16 mars. Et avant nous avons prévu d'aller viisiter les chutes d'Iguazu.
Pour ce qui est de nous rendre au Brésil j'ai le choix pour l'avion d'atterrir soit à Foz au Brésil soit à Puerto en Argentine; nous partirons de France le 11 mars et serons donc là-bas le 12 dans l'après-midi. Nous repartirons pour Sao Paulo ( ou Santos ) le 15.
Alors vaut-il mieux louer un hôtel pour les 3 nuits ( du 12 au 15 ) à Puerto ou à Foz de façon à nous éviter le souci des valises à transporter?
Quels sont les conseils que vous pourriez me donner pou organiser nos journées du 13 et 14 pour profiter au mieux du spectacle des chutes et peut-être de ce qu'il y a à côté ( sans tomber dans les pièges à gogos ! )?
Merci par avance si vous pouvez m'apporter ces précisions.
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29/11: France → Colombia. Overnight in Bogotá. 30/11: Exploring Bogotá: La Candelaria and Montserrate. 01/12: Gold Museum (closed on Mondays). Drive to Zipaquirá (1.5 hrs) to visit the Salt Cathedral. Then drive to Villa de Leyva (3 hrs). Explore the town. Overnight in Villa de Leyva. 02/12: Return to Bogotá via Laguna de Guatavita (5 hrs). Is it worth the detour? Overnight in Bogotá. 03/12: Flight to Pereira. Drive to Salento. Overnight in Salento. 04/12: Cocora Valley (hike among the wax palms) followed by a drive around the area. Are there any waterfalls or other sights nearby? 05/12: Visit a coffee finca—any recommendations? Then explore the surroundings: Filandia, Manizales, waterfalls? Hot springs? Which ones? 06/12: Flight to Medellín. 07/12: Exploring Medellín: Centro, Plaza Botero, Comuna 13. How do you visit Comuna 13? Is it easy to get around Medellín? Metro? Buses? 08/12: Drive to Guatapé (2 hrs). Visit the town, stroll around the lake, then El Peñol. Overnight in Guatapé. 09/12: Return to Medellín. 10/12: Flight to Santa Marta. Drive to a hotel near Tayrona Park. 11/12: Tayrona—El Zaino entrance. 12/12: Tayrona—Palangana entrance, then Bahia Concha and Santa Marta. What do you think? 13/12: Drive to Minca (45 mins). Can we reach the village by car? Pozo Azul and Marinka waterfalls. Overnight in Minca (or back in Tayrona?). 14/12: Drive to Puerto Nao (5 hrs). Stop in Ciénaga on the way + boat tour in Nueva Venecia and/or Buena Vista? Not enough time? Overnight in Puerto Nao. 15/12: Exploring Cartagena: Centro, Getsemaní, the walls + La Boquilla if we have time. 16/12: La Boquilla (is it really worth it?) if we didn’t have time yesterday, then back to the beach. 17/12: Return to France.
So, what do you think? Is this doable, or should we tweak it? Thanks in advance for your invaluable feedback and tips! 🙂
Hi there, I’ll be in Brazil from December 10th to the end of February.
I’ve sketched out a rough itinerary but I’m not sure how to arrange it—considering the climate, year-end holidays, and Carnival.
Basically, I’m thinking of the Amazon, the Northeast coast with Lençóis Maranhenses National Park (but skipping Chapada Diamantina),
Ouro Preto, Paraty, and Ilha Grande—but no Rio visit.
Is this doable in 3 months?
Which direction should I take for this itinerary?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone, does anyone know the agency Ventura Travel Agency (not ventura travel)? After lots of research and quotes, it’s the only one offering Uyuni at a reasonable price while meeting all the criteria: transfer to the border, private-room accommodation, and a very fair rate. Other agencies or guides either offer shared rooms, no border transfer, or prices that are way too high. But I’d love to hear some reviews about this agency. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
We're planning a trip to Chile to visit the Atacama Desert and then head toward Putre, Lauca, Salar de Surire, etc.
Which would be the better time to go, April or November?
Is an SUV enough?
Looking forward to your tips!
Hi, I'm looking for a local agency in Uyuni to do the trip and tours from Uyuni to San Pedro de Atacama. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Hi there,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Hi everyone, French travelers in Chile—what credit cards do you use for your various car rentals in the country? I’m traveling in September and was planning to switch my regular debit card (a VISA PREMIER in deferred debit mode) for the deposit guarantee.
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
Hi everyone, is it still possible to travel in Ecuador outside the Amazon region? If so, do you have a reliable agency to recommend? All your recent experiences from the past few months would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much
Hi,
We’re heading to Buenos Aires for 3 days in November and would like to do a guided tour of a few neighborhoods. There are "free" tours, but none in French. Does anyone have a guide to recommend so we can really get to know the city beyond just the architecture?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m desperately looking for info on the schedules and routes of (shared) boats to visit the islands of Lake Titicaca.
From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Hey everyone,
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri




