Bad Experience in Dali
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Hi, July 2026: I’m writing to you from Dali. First, I got scammed on Booking—AI-retouched photos. No tourists at this hotel (Yishanju Designer Hotel), and the reality was horrible: dirty, with a disgusting breakfast. It’s better to use Trip.com here. Next, the old town was an infernal cacophony, packed with tourists who shoved past without a care. Some vendors harassed you to buy things. All the stalls sold the same cheap plastic junk or other uninteresting stuff. The beautiful scenery was ruined by vendors lining 100% of the alleys. Impossible to walk, crushing heat, nothing good to eat except fresh fruit. Horrible experience. Day 2: We went to Cangshan Mountain by cable car—the ride was short and nothing spectacular. We were at 2,600 m. My plan was to see Erhai Lake. Unfortunately, I followed the advice of an AI chatbot: take the boat at Langkan Dock. The Didi dropped us off in the nearest area, which was full of charming little alleys but packed with Chinese tourists. The three-wheeled yellow cabs zoomed through the narrow streets, forcing you to hug the walls, on top of the scooters and other pedestrians to deal with. Crossing the neighborhood was hellish and suffocating. Once out, we hit the "corniche," which was also packed with Chinese tourists. The lake’s edge was all pebbles, and everyone was standing around taking photos. I was with my 5-year-old son. I would’ve liked to sit down and let him play with stones by the water, but it was clear we didn’t belong. They were even shoving each other for a shot! There were no boats in sight. In short, we’d had enough, and there was nothing interesting there either. On the way back, we had to cross that maze again under the scorching sun. My son was braver than me—I even had a little dizzy spell from all the chaos. Add to that Dali’s altitude (2,200 m), so altitude insomnia, fatigue, and vulnerability during the day... The restaurants weren’t inviting—the staff served sticky rice in a little bucket. The dishes were wrapped, and you had to figure it out yourself. After that, they ignored you completely, even if you were the only tourist. On the 3rd day, it was time to leave for Shaxi. I hope to see beautiful villages. But honestly, I’m exhausted by this atmosphere where everything is complicated, communication is never smooth, noise is everywhere, and the behavior of some Chinese people is abusive... Silver lining: not a drop of rain in 4 days and blue skies.

I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there... But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
Add to that the fact that Dali is at 2,200 m altitude, so altitude insomnia, fatigue, and vulnerability during the day...

Hi, At 2,000 m, you can suffer from altitude sickness?! Good thing you didn’t go to the Tibetan Plateau! I went to Dali in 1986—it’s one of the places in China I loved most for its tranquility (outside the city, of course, since I don’t like cities), along with Lijiang and Tiger Leaping Gorge, and also Xishuangbanna (near Laos). Back then, there wasn’t a single tourist.

the staff serves you sticky rice in a small bcowl

At least it’s authentic! 😏

Apart from these somewhat remote places (at the time), I didn’t really like China. We were constantly hassled by the authorities, and almost everything was forbidden. With the rise of local tourism, mass tourism, and everything being so organized and controlled, I think I’d still prefer the China of old—when shopkeepers used abacuses and toilets (outside soulless big hotels) were communal!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XCOyB7WStI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2eI67iCbKY
NO Noraz ·
Bonjour,

"2000m on peut souffrir de l'altitude?!Heureusement que vous n'êtes pas allée sur le plateau Tibétain!"

Je pense que chacun réagit différemment. Pour ma part c'est la foule et le bruit à Dali qui m'ont donné le tournis. Votre expérience de Dali a 40 ans. Cette ville est extrême et je tiens à avertir les potentiels intéressés car le séjour vire sérieusement au cauchemar. Ne surtout pas croire les guides qui conseillent 2 nuits à Dali.

Je suis arrivée aujourd'hui à Shaxi (se prononce cha-chi) et c'est absolument superbe. On déambule tranquillement dans un village piéton hyper photogénique. Je respire à nouveau ici. J'ai quand même l'intention de pousser au Tibet, je blague, jusque Shangri la avec mon fils de 5 ans. Je n'ai pas envie de dormir à Lijiang même. Sans être raciste : je n'en peux plus des foules de chinois aux comportements absurdes. Certains sont vraiment ouverts et accueillants.

Cet après-midi, mon fils a fait une activité manuelle dans une boutique de Shaxi. La jeune fille qui nous a pourtant proposé son aide au début a totalement ignoré mon fils. Nous étions les seules touristes occidentaux. Elle a préféré faire l'activité avec le groupe de chinois présent qui avait la vingtaine. Au bout d'une heure je lui fais quand même remarquer car on devenait transparent et l'activitédemandait à être guidée... malgré ma remarque elle a continué à nous ignorer. Ce n'est qu'un exemple d'impolitesse chinoise que je déplore avec désolation. La Chine était un pays pauvre avant son ascension rapide, on pense parfois que c'est lié. Mais je n'y crois pas. Il y a beaucoup de pays pauvres très hospitaliers comme la Syrie d'avant la guerre ou l'Iran.

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