We’re heading to Ouarzazate and southern Morocco in 7 days.
Here’s our route (map). We’re a family of 2 adults and 3 kids (11, 9, and 5 years old).
Could you let me know if there are even more scenic roads to take, and any must-see spots, please? 😉
Day 1: Ouarzazate – Skoura – Dadès
Day 2: Dadès + Todra
Day 3: Tinegir – Djbel Saghro – N'Kob
Day 4: Tazzarine – M'Hamid (overnight in Erg Lihoudi)
Day 5: M'Hamid – Draa Valley – Agdz
Day 6: Agdz – Fint – Ben Haddou
Day 7: Telouet – Ouarzazate
Hey,
Makes sense. And not too many other options if you want paved roads...
Still, on your route between Dadès and Todgha, I see you’ll double back to take the main highway, which isn’t the prettiest stretch of the N10 between Boulmane and Tinghir...
I suggest you loop north via Agoudal instead. Not much dirt road left since they’re paving it... but what’s still there is super easy with any car... and it’ll be way prettier. You’ll take the upper Dadès route... You’ve got the Akhiam site along the way... Even though the new dam at the exit of the Todgha Gorge ruins the spot, the route is still much nicer than the N10....
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Hi,
I’ve got a question about the connection between the Dadès and the Todra—is it a good idea to take the road (or rather the track that’s currently being paved, if I understood correctly) just north of M’semrir that runs from west to east toward Tamtattouchte?
For someone who doesn’t have time to go up to Agoudal, instead of taking the N10.
The road through the pass and Agoudal is smooth and way prettier...
If you're local, sure, it's better, but for a first trip, I really recommend the Agoudal route... The landscapes are on another level...
Anyway, in Morocco, it's risky to plan things down to the quarter-hour, even on paved roads—let alone in the mountains...
Just in case, you take the road after M'smerir, near a big recent factory.
But again, there's no comparison between the two options...
Qui écoute trop la météo, passe sa vie au bistrot !
Hi,
It works, thanks for the feedback!
This is actually my first trip to the area, and I’m currently putting together the itinerary. I thought the time difference would be more noticeable than that.
The original plan was to visit the Dades Gorges first, then find a scenic route to the entrance of the Todra Gorges, where we’d spend the night, with the idea of exploring Todra the next morning.
We’ll be coming from Skoura.
If we take the loop via Agoudal, do you have any recommendations for a spot where we could stop for the night?
Alternatively, do you think it’s feasible to do both the Dades and Todra Gorges in the same day with this Agoudal loop, or would that be too rushed and therefore not recommended? I’m not sure what to expect...
My last question: Is there a preferred direction for driving through both gorges, or does it not really matter?
I’ve already done the Valley of the Roses – Dades – Todgha route via Agoudal in one day.
Visited the Todgha Gorge the next morning before the tourist rush.
You *can* sleep in Agoudal, but I don’t really see the point.
With just a Dacia Logan
Got it.
Is it feasible to do the same day for Dades + Todra via Agoudal, or is that too ambitious / too rushed?
Since I’ve heard it’s best to visit the Todra Gorge early in the morning, I might consider doing the loop in the order Todra > Agoudal > Dades...
Thanks,
Both directions are lovely, but personally, I slightly prefer starting with the Todgha...
Make sure to take a little break here (1-hour round-trip walk).
I see on Google that the tourist trap has already started with a snack shack... hard to believe this place was almost unknown just a few years ago... Take advantage and go see the beautiful arch. Bring a flashlight if you want to explore the cave—you can easily check out two chambers. That said, with all the rain we’ve had, it’s probably not possible now. I managed to go pretty far three years ago, but I was solo, and looking back, it wasn’t the smartest idea. At times, you have to crawl on your stomach with your back scraping the ceiling—it’s that narrow. There are some stunning chambers beyond the first siphon, but I don’t think it’s passable right now.
For lodging... Phew, I don’t even know where to start, lol. There are so many options!
From the luxurious and gourmet Chez Pierre (since it was taken over by Moroccan brothers, I love this place, but it’s super booked and pretty pricey—though I adore this hostel, even if it’s a bit flashy) to ultra-family-run kasbahs with no frills but delicious home-cooked meals (the beds are average, but it’s a very local spot—only the father speaks French well, and he knows the region like the back of his hand. You really get to share in the family’s daily life). Between these two extremes, I’ve got at least 50 addresses to share, so... ^^ Personally, if I had to choose, I’d stay on the Dadès side if you’re starting with Todgha. I don’t know your budget or comfort expectations... (the upper Dadès is largely ignored by tourists, who all flock to the lower Dadès before the famous hairpin turns. Even in Agoudal, there’s Ibrahim’s place—veteran travelers might remember it from back in the day. It’s not the same anymore, but it’s still a decent stop. For me, what I love about Agoudal is winter—all the older men lounging against the wall, soaking up the sun in the center... ^^)
Don’t forget to make a little stop for tea or a snack (you can even sleep here):
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Ckq5VkDmzNEo4dAa9
The owner is welcoming, and the little break is nice now that the construction equipment is gone (thanks to the new pavement).
A few spots like this for epic views:
* At the Tirherhouzine Pass (2,709 m),
Park here and head up to the right. The view over the valley is insane—just watch the drop!
You can see the trail clearly on Google, but it gets less obvious higher up—it’s a climb. When you reach a pass, a trail branches off to the right (6–8 hours to reach the Dadès). To the left, less marked, you’ll end up right above the gorges—absolutely stunning panorama. Watch out for falls and rockfalls...
For those staying at the foot of the gorges, you can do a day-long loop on foot: cross the gorges, hike up, and descend on the other side to return to the village of Ait Tizgui (Tizgui means "waterfall").
Ugh, I’ll stop now or I’ll end up writing another novel...
By the way, there’s a track in the upper Dadès near Tilmi that connects to the Cathedral, and even Bouzmou toward Imilchil...
Quick fuel tip: In the upper Dadès, you can find diesel in Tilmi here:
Awesome, thanks so much for your feedback! Just reading this makes me want to go. 😇
Our budget is around 50 or 60 € max per night for two. Comfort-wise, we’re happy with anything—from the most comfortable to the most basic—as long as there’s authenticity and great moments that make it all worthwhile :)
Not sure if this is the right place for this, but here’s our 10-day itinerary so far (we’d have loved more time to take it slower, but this trip, we don’t have a choice..):
1) Marrakech
2) Pick up the Logan; head toward Tizi n’Tichka pass via Telouet; overnight near Skoura
3) Skoura; Valley of the Roses (as far as Bou Tharar); then overnight at the start of the Dades Gorges
4) Dades Gorges, loop to Tamtetoucht via Agoudal. Overnight near Tamtetoucht.
5) Todgha Gorges; then Tinghir and its palm grove. Road to Nkob via Tizi n’Tazazert pass; overnight near Nkob or in the Draa Valley (?)
6) Draa Valley to Zagora + overnight
7) Draa Valley to M’Hamid, depart late afternoon for 2 nights in the Erg Chegaga desert (we’re looking for a "nomadic" bivouac, not a permanent camp)
8) Desert + overnight
9) Return to M’Hamid, overnight on the road in the Draa Valley (near Tamnougalt or Agdz)
10) Return to Marrakech
If you’ve got any comments or tips—no matter how big or small—I’m all ears! :)
Especially stops or detours worth taking, a great spot, a little walk or visit along the way… Or even if the whole route needs tweaking 😄
Basically, I’ll take anything!
So, day 1 in the city and day 2, we grab the rental...
Skoura (this is just my personal opinion) still has its old reputation, but this palm grove, which had charm some time ago, has nothing to do with the past anymore... I say this because I see in almost all travelers' itineraries that they discover Skoura as if it were THE star of the country... It's wildly overrated and isn't even close to being the most beautiful palm grove in Morocco... I wouldn't even rank it in the top 5... The palm grove is sick and scraggly, not to mention that for a good ten years, it's been the trend for Europeans to come and set up hostels... Soon, there'll be more hostels than palm trees...🤪
Maybe it's also the fault of some travel journals where most people here don’t venture off the beaten path. (Sorry for being so frank.) That said, you can still find some nice stops there... Personally, I only like Skoura in the winter when the peaks are snow-covered.
I can’t remember what time of year you're leaving, but the first week of May is the Rose Festival, so it’s hard to find accommodation... A full day for the Rose Valley seems long compared to the other days...
You’ll see that it goes by faster than expected, and like Skoura, the Rose Valley isn’t exactly... rose-colored... It’s very easy to drive through the valley and barely see a rose, except on shops selling products made with Chinese roses... (1 - it’s much cheaper to import made-in-China than to produce locally, 2 - the drought no longer allows for sufficient production)...
Bou Tharar, a quiet little village... Are you doubling back or taking the dirt track?
Just in case:
Start at Bou Tharar: https://maps.app.goo.gl/uz566t7tMpJexCdK6
Remember to turn left in the center—turning right takes you up to a stunning viewpoint over the valley and the M'Goun range, but that’s for 4x4s or daredevils like me... 1h30 on foot.
You’ll arrive at Ait Youl: https://maps.app.goo.gl/XS5MDFr3wxXG2P1N9
There’s another variant a bit further north via Tisguine, which is much nicer, but there’s a river crossing here to do, and I don’t know if you’re comfortable driving a Logan on dirt tracks (just so you know, insurance doesn’t cover off-road driving).
The rest is a classic route...
I might’ve pushed to sleep higher up in the Dadès Valley rather than at the start, especially if you’re staying in Skoura. I recommend this unique kasbah: https://maps.app.goo.gl/2AFGeCr7rzwBmFca7
Brahim is a truly great guy and super attentive... A family man like you’d want to see more of in Morocco... Contact him on WhatsApp by voice: +212 699 208 268... Tell him you’re coming from Zitouny (olive in Arabic), and he’ll take good care of you... I especially recommend him for those who might want a guide—he knows the region like the back of his hand... I’m leaving the info here for you or others, no pressure...
In the Dadès Valley, there are tons of great choices... But also tons of flops... For the past 2 or 3 years, it’s been a disaster—soulless, flashy hostels and hotels with tacky names are popping up one after another...
Qui écoute trop la météo, passe sa vie au bistrot !
Hey there!
Totally agree with you, dear Zitouni!
Never got the hype about Skoura!
I also tried spending a night at that famous hostel... never again.
Last year when I passed through, a lot of the palm trees had burned—it wasn’t great.
Hopefully, the autumn rains helped the landscape turn green again.
I came back after a month... it’s not the same feeling as before.
It’s still really beautiful, but my old friends, the *chibanis*, have passed away or are as old as I am now!
The bivouacs with young people, the quad bikes... not to mention the "Agafay Desert"—that’s not for me anymore.
I spend my winters in my place... in Senegal.
Greetings to all in Morocco.
Francia
le mérite d'un homme réside dans sa connaissance et dans ses actes et non point dans la couleur de sa peau ou de sa religion!
Khalil Gibran
Thanks for all the feedback!
We’re leaving in late May/early June.
We’re planning to stop in Skoura mainly because it’s on the way—it’s a "convenient" stop coming from Marrakech—but the palm grove visit wasn’t a must for us. We’ll skip it. On our loop, is there another palm grove that’s more worth it? The one in Tinghir, maybe?
About the track to Bou Tharar that leads east to Ait Youl—is it manageable in a Logan? Because I’m not sure how well I’d handle a Logan on dirt roads either 😅 But it sounds great—I’m guessing it’s way nicer than doing the round trip and taking the N10.
I get that it’d be better to sleep in the Upper Dades, but that’d mean visiting the gorges on day 3 after leaving Skoura. I don’t want us to feel like we’re "rushing" if we do the Amridil kasbah, the Rose Valley, *and* Bou Tharar first… Wouldn’t that be a bit much to add the gorges in the afternoon/late afternoon? Since we want to take little photo breaks—or even short walks if the scenery calls for it—
Thanks for the tip, by the way!
I’ve got a few more questions:
- I saw there’s a salt mine in "Agoulzi" north of Ait Hani. Is it worth a look?
- Any recommendations for the Draa Valley? (Good stops, places to stay, scenic detours…)
- Same for N’kob—is it worth stopping for a night on the way down from Tizi n’Tazazert, or should we push on to the Draa Valley? (Since we’ll already be spending two nights there later…)
Back in December 2013 or January 2024, I drove up the Dadès Valley all the way to Agoudal for the first time.
I had no idea the last few kilometers before the pass were so narrow—basically one lane.
I was unlucky enough to meet two vehicles, and each time it was really, really tricky.
How’s it now?
"Il vaut mieux faire des enfants quand on est vieux, on les em...de moins longtemps (Desproges)
Since you're passing through Telouet and the Ounila Valley, there’s also a salt mine at the beginning.
Dades Valley: I recommend Isabel Hostel—very simple and family-run, with 3 rooms. It’s inexpensive, the food is good, the rooms are spotless, and there’s a large terrace facing the Monkey Fingers.
Nkob: Kasbah Ennakb on the main street is beautiful and has excellent food. Next door, don’t miss visiting the cobbler to buy some nice sandals. The main street is nothing special, but behind the hotel, you can access the old village, known for its many well-preserved kasbahs—though they’re not open for visits.
Draa Valley: The ksar of Tamnougalt is worth the detour (films have been shot there), and you can stay overnight.
Further down the valley, Kasbah Ait Othman is an authentic and stunning kasbah turned into a hostel.
A hostel in Tamgroute. The area is known for its distinctive green pottery, a covered old village, and a library of ancient manuscripts—though you can easily skip that.
Tinghir, yes—the palm grove is way nicer than Skoura...
About the shortcut through Bou Tharar... "Tranquille" is a random word in Morocco—tracks depend on the weather. One day it’s an easy drive, the next it’s impassable...
But locals use this route regularly, and there’s no real difficulty. A Logan can handle it without any problem... That said, I’ve seen people in France blow a tire just parking at a supermarket curb, so... you can wreck your car anywhere. Technically, it’s a green-level track...^^ The only real challenge would be managing to get lost and take the wrong path lol
As for the salt mine, it’s not a big deal... First, the guy has to be there. These are often very basic operations, like the one in the Ounila Valley Fangui mentioned. You go into a dark cave and that’s it... Not worth the time if you’ve got a tight schedule.
On top of Fangui’s tips for Nkob, I’ll add that the tarmac is great between the pass and Nkob, and it’s also a nice spot to sleep up there...
There are two places—it’s a matter of vibe, but I prefer Tirza. Basic but clean and cheap.
Here Yassine, the son, replies on WhatsApp at +212 671 063 687...
Without staying overnight, a stop is nice for the view on the way down to see the Affezar canyon. Position yourself here: Viewpoint
The hostel just above also offers a stunning view of the Saghro and the Igly cirque, called the Camel...
Not to mention, at the bottom of the pass, there’s a really worthwhile walk to Bab N’Ali...
The hike starts here
Don’t hesitate to park all the way to the easy turnaround spot. The monolith is the landmark... You can climb to the base without difficulty—just watch out for loose gravel underfoot on the slope, but it’s not dangerous. At the base, you’ll see a small geological curiosity if you look closely—I won’t spoil it ^^...
The hostels on-site aren’t great... Both the welcome and the service leave a lot to be desired.
The Draa Valley is long, *really* long Fangui shared some great tips... When you’re coming from Nkob, you’ve got two route options—one to the left of the Draa and one to the right. The right-hand one going down is the main road; the other is less of a hassle. If you want, you can go down one way and come back the other to Zagora... For lighting, it’s much better to go down in the afternoon and come back up in the morning. The palm grove is struggling, and you won’t see much that’s appealing around midday when the light is so harsh. Anyway, you’ll be in this area at a rough time of year—late May, early June in M’Hamid. Personally, I’m not a fan... Last year, I had 46-47°C in mid-May at Chegaga. This part of your trip won’t be the highlight. The landscapes will be flattened by the heat and dust, and panoramic photos are tough to pull off.
Watch out when you get to Zagora—you’ll very likely run into some "friends"... In the Draa, I have a rule: I politely tell anyone in blue who bothers me about the Tuaregs to get lost. Quick reminder: Tuaregs in Morocco? THEY DON’T EXIST (anymore), and not a single person you meet is from that ethnic group—not even their father or great-grandfather. It annoys me how they sell nonsense instead of talking about their own culture... (they know as much about themselves as they do about the Tuaregs, to be honest). Anyway... Be careful, and even more so when you get to M’Hamid—you’ll be a walking target for kilometers ^^ But no real danger... Just don’t be naive.
After Tamegroute, you can also do a loop—go one way and come back the other starting from here
Don’t forget cold water and stay hydrated... You’ll need it. No need to stock up too much—it heats up fast, and on the tarmac, you’ll often find shops and cafés...
Qui écoute trop la météo, passe sa vie au bistrot !
Hey Minou!
You always have such great tips!
In ZAGORA, I found a really nice little hostel called "La Petite Casbah"—it’s cheap and has a lovely small pool that’s perfect for the intense heat!
I won’t talk about the "Blue Men"—I married one 25 years ago. 😄
Wishing everyone a wonderful stay.
Francia
le mérite d'un homme réside dans sa connaissance et dans ses actes et non point dans la couleur de sa peau ou de sa religion!
Khalil Gibran
I always stop at the little kasbah whenever I pass through Zagora. The hostel is really nice, Brahim is super friendly, and the meals are always delicious. The TV room is a hit with soccer fans...
I stop at the little kasbah every time I pass through Zagora. The hostel is really nice, Brahim is super friendly, and the meals are always great. The TV room is a hit with soccer fans...
Hey, you can spot the regulars here ;)
Not me for the soccer!
I stayed there for 3 nights in October.
Maybe we crossed paths!
le mérite d'un homme réside dans sa connaissance et dans ses actes et non point dans la couleur de sa peau ou de sa religion!
Khalil Gibran
Is the track to Bou Tharar that leads east to Ait Youl manageable in a Logan?
No, it’s never really been "manageable" and right now it’s completely impassable.
I gave up trying to take it in a 4x4 last week.
The rains washed out the track, and I seriously doubt it’s been repaired.
Alternative: North of Aït Youl, a road heads toward Ighil n'Oumgoun and lets you reach Bou Taghrar.
More details here:
https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=10707248#10707248
I’ve got a question about the connection between the Dadès and the Todra—is it a good idea to take the road (or rather the track that’s currently being paved, if I understood correctly) just north of M’semrir that runs from west to east toward Tamtattouchte?
As of 2025, the entire route is paved.
It’s fast.
And it’s a real environmental disaster.
https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=10707454#10707454
Alternative: North of Aït Youl, a road leads to Ighil n'Oumgoun and allows you to reach Bou Taghrar.
We talk about it here:
https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=10707248#10707248
Thanks for your message—it’s really nice of you to update the info.
For the alternative mentioned above, is the paved section on the Aït Youl side or the Tisguine n'Aït M'Rao side?
Do you think the unpaved part is doable in a Logan?
Thanks in advance,
Thanks! However, we’ll be traveling it from west to east (from Bou Taghrar to Aït Youl).
So we’ll need to go all the way to Ighil n'Oumgoun via Alemdoun, right?
From Ighil n'Oumgoun, is the turn-off easy to spot?
Hi Fangui,
More than five years ago, I took the Mesmrir - Agoudal route and it was terribly rocky. I don’t know if it’s still like that or if it’s been paved now?
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I’m planning almost the same route as you. The drive to Telouet is stunning. But why spend the night at Erg Lihoudi—why didn’t you head to Erg Chguaga instead?
Thanks
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Avant toute chose: un grand merci à tous ceux dont on peut savourer les posts éclairés, marrants, vivants, dépaysants... Un bonheur de trouver de si jolies plumes sur ce forum, qui m'ont donné une foultitude d'idées et d'adresses pour préparer notre voyage.
Notre projet: sillonner le Maroc du 2 novembre au 4 déc. Nous aurons notre propre véhicule (Renault GrandScenic 2011, en très bon état), embarqué avec nous de Sète à TangerMed. Retour depuis Nador.
Notre profil: 75 et 62 étés, donc vieux mais contents de l'être, en très bonne santé. Habitués au voyage - c'est même toute notre vie. Amis des beaux paysages, des vieilles pierres, de l'artisanat soigné et des road trips. Ce sera mon 3e séjour au Maroc, mais le 1 et 2 remontent à 20 ans et 17 ans. Je ne suis jamais allée plus au nord que la ligne Essaouira-Marrakech (mais plus au sud, oui). Quant à mon mari, expat toute sa vie y.c. en pays musulmans, c'est sa première fois au Maroc.
C'est lui qui conduit. Il est très expérimenté, prudent, pas forcément rapide, mais habitué à la conduite dans tous les états (et Etats, yc les plus créatifs sur la route). Mais je ne veux pas le fatiguer et il ne conduit plus de nuit (et on sera en novembre).
J'ai pris le parti de lui faire voir un peu de tout en faisant un road-trip par de belles petites routes, avec des trajets en moyenne de 180-200 km/jour (sauf si autoroute, mais ce sera rare), régulièrement entrecoupés de jours de pause. Je compte une vitesse de 40 à 50 km/h, plus arrêts/visites sur le trajet.
Comme j'ai bien tout lu plein de posts, j'en arrive à des questions assez précises.
1) En provenance directe de Rabat par autoroute, nous préférons zapper Marrakech*. Néanmoins, il faudra bien dormir quelque part autour. On partira le lendemain direction Skoura. Quelqu'un aurait-il une adresse bien positionnée pour ce trajet, év. à l'est de Marrakech ? Nous recherchons idéalement dans une petite ville, facile à se garer, un hébergement propre (minimum) au confort moyen (ou plus si ça se trouve), un peu chauffé et si possible joli et/ou sympa - mais il s'agit avant tout de bien dormir, de se laver à l'eau tiède (idéalement chaude) et de dîner correctement.
(*Explication du "no-go" à Marrakech: certes c'est malheureux, parce qu'il y a de bien belles choses dans cette ville, mais je crois que l'ambiance ne va pas nous plaire - c'est un euphémisme pour "nous rebuter" / "nous faire fuir" / "nous traumatiser". Pas parce qu'il y a trop de monde et qu'on veut se distinguer des touristes, alors qu'on en fait partie, mais parce que le henné forcé sur votre main qu'on attrape, ou passer 10' tous les quarts d'heure à dire "non merci" à un guide, qui est autant guide que moi trapéziste, nous connaissant ça va nous faire du mal. Or, le pays est bien assez vaste et beau, et notre temps bien trop court, pour aller gâcher nos souvenirs quelques jours à peine après l'arrivée. Et je ne veux pas insulter l'avenir en braquant mon paisible époux, sinon il exigera de faire demi-tour et Sète en novembre, ça ne m'emballe pas plus que ça).
2) Quelle route direction Skoura (en 2 jours) ? Je vois 2 possibilités: soit par le col du Tichka, avec nuit à Telouet avant de rejoindre Skoura, soit par la R307/N23 depuis Demnate, avec nuit vers Megdaz avant descente à Skoura. Alors: col du Tichka ou R307/N23 ? J'ai un petit (grand) faible pour la 2e option, même si je sais que l'autre route est très belle aussi. Evidemment, avant de décider, on se renseignera sur la météo et l'état actuel de la R307/N23 - d'ailleurs, quelqu'un sait où obtenir l'info sur l'état de la route ? Mais même en admettant que la route "passe" bien, n'est-elle pas en soi un peu trop pénible ? Bref, est-ce bien raisonnable ? Si une bonne âme veut bien partager son expérience, mille merci d'avance.
Voilà, j'en ai assez écrit. Je laisse les autres questions pour d'autres posts. Encore merci à ceux qui ont eu la patience de me lire et à ceux qui pourront répondre. Joyeux dimanche à tous
Bonjour je souhaite partir au Maroc la semaine prochaine avec ma voiture j'ai regardé sur le net toutes les différentes informations pour le passage du ferry à Tanger auriez-vous des informations à me donner à ce sujet car je trouve que c'est très cher. Est-ce qu'il y aurait une possibilité d'acheter sur l'Espagne ! Ou une autre façon de trouver à acheter le passage pour Algecira à Tanger. Merci de votre retour et de toutes vos informations.
Bonjour
Nous pensons nous rendre en Égypte durant la période 25 janvier/ 15 février 2027 . J'ai cherché les dates du Ramadan et trouvé des sites qui annoncent le 8 février et d'autres qui annoncent le 18 février... Ou est l'erreur?
Merci
Christian
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April.
What do you think of this rate?
This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
bonjour,
je cherche un pays a visiter pour 10 jours en fevrier
que me conseillez vous pour un sejour avec un peu de soleil, randonnées et visite dde pays
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available?
-Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)?
-Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
Avec nos deux ados, nous allons passer deux semaines au Maroc à la fin décembre-début janvier. Ce sera notre premier voyage plus "dépaysant", bien que nous ayons visité plusieurs pays jusqu'à maintenant. Vu l'abondance d'infos, je suis plutôt overwhelmed avec la préparation que ce voyage exige et j'avoue être un peu perdue quant à évaluer ce qui est réaliste de visiter ou pas en 2 semaines 😕 Tous vos conseils, retour d'expériences et suggestions sont donc ici les bienvenus!
- Quels endroits seraient à privilégier à cette période de l'année (j'ai vu que certains endroits étaient moins accessibles en hiver?)
- Préférable de circuler de quelle façon ? (location d'auto, train, transport privé, autobus, etc.? -- à noter que nous aurons tout de même quelques valises!)
- Niveau "sécurité", des zones à éviter?
- Des suggestions de compagnies touristiques fiables (outre les grosses bannières de type "get your guide") qui offrent des excursions, ou encore des transports privés pour nous permettre de découvrir le pays?
- Un itinéraire jouable en 2 semaines sans devoir changer d'hébergement aux 2 jours et apprécier la diversité du pays?
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you:
- Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why?
- Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies.
- Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car?
- Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years.
Have a great evening,
Roberto
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them.
I didn’t find any info on the forum.
Best,
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hi everyone,
We're leaving in early October 2026 and planning to travel from the Aït Bougmez Valley ("Happy Valley") to Skoura/Ouarzazate via Demnate and the R307/N23 route.
Has anyone taken this road recently? Is it passable with a regular car (non-4x4), or is a 4x4 absolutely necessary? Are there any ongoing construction projects or degraded sections to be aware of?
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier.
Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel...
Day 3: Stop in Tetouan
Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains
Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!)
Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis
Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad)
After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF).
Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
