Hi there,
We’re leaving from Montreal and planning to bike the Petit Train du Nord route.
Any ideas for loops so we don’t have to return the same way?
We’re thinking of a one-week trip.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Rachel
hi, this seems tricky since there aren’t any other trails nearby to get back.
Unless you ride on Route 117, the Laurentians one, but that’s really not recommended—lots of traffic and tons of narrow sections.
Hi there, happy to help!
To answer your question, yes, I know this route well—I practically know every section like the back of my hand 😉
I’ve done the trail multiple times on cross-country skis, on foot, snowshoes, and even by canoe when I lived in Quebec.
Accommodations in Lac-Saguay, Mont-Laurier, Labelle, L’Ascension, etc.
There’s an option to take a bus back from Mont-Laurier.
The best part of the return trip is that the trail is all downhill.
From Saint-Jérôme, start at the bus station
I’m meeting up with a friend who’s been living in Montreal for a little while, and we want to go biking. He says we should look into info between Mont-Laurier and Gatineau—apparently, finding accommodations is tricky there?
Ouch, yeah, I doubt there are any accommodations all the way to Gatineau.
And the big downside is that I doubt there’s a bike path.
The Petit Train du Nord trail ends in Mont-Laurier
Hello,
We're leaving from Montreal and planning to bike the Petit Train du Nord route.
Any ideas for a loop to avoid coming back the same way?
We were thinking of a week-long trip.
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Rachel
Hi Rachel,
We’re Quebecers, bike travelers, and tandem cyclists. We live in Ste-Adèle in the Laurentians, which is a fantastic playground for biking—and for cross-country skiing during Quebec’s beautiful winters.
If you're up for a bit of a challenge and comfortable riding on quiet country roads, there are several lovely alternatives to complement the Petit Train du Nord and avoid a round trip. Here’s a first suggestion:
a.) Start in St-Jérôme at the bus station; follow the PTDN to Mont-Tremblant (94 km).
If you prefer shorter stages, Mont-Rolland, Val-David, or Ste-Agathe are good options.
b.) Return along the Rouge River and then on the Corridor Aérobique, a forest bike path. Pass through the villages of La Conception (via PTDN), then toward Brébeuf along the river, Arundel (where you’ll join the Corridor Aérobique, continuing to its end in Morin Heights), Lac-à-la-Loutre, Huberdeau, Weir, Lac-des-Seize-Îles, Lac St-François, and Morin Heights.
After Morin Heights, take Chemin du Village toward St-Sauveur to avoid the busy Route 364. You’ll rejoin the PTDN after the village and head back to St-Jérôme.
This second leg totals 110 km and is hillier than the PTDN the day before, but still very pleasant and less crowded.
Here’s the detailed route:
https://www.openrunner.com/route-details/21166470
A second, longer suggestion would let you do the full PTDN to Mont-Laurier, then cross toward Ottawa through the Outaouais. We did this trip with our kids in 6 days of biking—a loop totaling 760 km from our former home in Beloeil, but it’d be shorter depending on whether you start from Montreal, Laval, or St-Jérôme.
A third option is a hybrid of the two: go all the way to Mont-Tremblant on the PTDN, then return via the full Corridor Aérobique, passing through Papineau-Labelle (wildlife reserve). That’s about 450 km, with 3/4 on bike paths and 1/4 on quiet roads.
https://www.openrunner.com/route-details/21166546
There are also other great options often used by local cycling clubs—I can give you more details based on your needs.
Hope this helps you discover and enjoy our beautiful region (you should also come in winter to explore our cross-country ski trails from village to village!). Here’s a little video of what you could experience in winter:
It’s entirely possible to connect Gatineau and Ottawa, partly via bike paths through Gatineau Park south of Grand Remous. However, there are also several quiet backroads, especially via Val-des-Bois and Buckingham. Accommodation is more limited in this region for those doing it as a multi-day trip, but it’s not completely lacking. That said, there are plenty of opportunities for wild camping. We even have a directory of wild camping spots in Quebec, exclusively reserved for self-sufficient cycle-travelers, which I can share privately if needed.
Alternatively, shorter loops are also possible, like via Amherst on the Corridor Aérobique, another bike path that’s wilder and less crowded than the P'tit Train du Nord (PTDN).
Hi there,
Thanks so much for all this info!
We’re pretty active—skiing and biking—and we live in the Alps.
I’m meeting up with a friend who’s settled in Montreal.
I went to Vancouver in the winter and I’m definitely planning to visit Montreal and the Laurentians.
This summer, after biking with my friend, I’m heading to the Gaspésie for 10 days with a friend whose son is studying there.
I’d love any tips or recommendations too!
Thanks again—I’ll pass this along to my friend.
Have a great day!
It’s entirely possible to travel between Gatineau and Ottawa, partly on bike paths through Gatineau Park south of Grand Remous. However, there are several quiet back roads.
Hi there,
Okay, got it.
But is it possible to reach Gatineau on a bike path, even if starting from Mont-Laurier?
Otherwise, we’d have to take small roads that are still used by cars.
If you ever decide to take the route that goes through Oka, you can stop there to spend the night (Oka Park with a gorgeous beach overlooking Lac des Deux-Montagnes).
If you're using a tent, there are campsites available.
If you don't have a tent, you can book a yurt. However, you’ll need to reserve early to make sure one is available.
Also, depending on the dates you choose, don’t forget that from July 20 to August 2, it’s construction holiday in Quebec. It’s recommended to book your accommodations in advance, especially this year with the "boycott" that seems to be happening against the U.S. There will likely be a lot of Quebecers vacationing within the province.
Hi there,
Thanks so much!
We’ll be pedaling starting September 15th.
We’re finalizing our route and checking out accommodations.
All great tips are welcome!
Thanks,
Rachel
Thanks!
We’ll finalize our route, and I’ll definitely reach out to you about accommodations—depending on where we decide to stop.
Have a great day!
Rachel
It’s entirely possible to travel between Gatineau and Ottawa, partly on bike paths through Gatineau Park south of Grand Remous. However, several quiet back roads also work.
Evening, okay, got it. Can you get to Gatineau on a bike path starting from Mont-Laurier?
I’d refer you to the official sites of Vélo Québec and the Route Verte, which manage Quebec’s bike paths.
So, Route Verte 2 (known as the Petit Train du Nord, between St-Jérôme and Mont-Laurier) goes even farther, through Parc La Vérendrye, toward Abitibi (Val-D’Or, Amos, La Sarre, Rouyn) and beyond to Témiscamingue (Ville-Marie, etc.).
I did this crossing during COVID in 2020, but I started from St-Félicien in Lac St-Jean, via Jamésie (Chibougamau, Chapais, Lebel-sur-Quévillon, and Senneterre, where I then connected to RV2 in Val-D’Or).
I’ve also done the bike routes between Mont-Laurier, Grand Remous, Maniwaki, and Hull a few times (in 2012 with my teenage kids, then in 2021 from Toronto and Ottawa on the way back from Newfoundland).
There *is* a bike path, more or less parallel to Route 105, that links up with RV2 from Grand Remous, partly through Gatineau Park farther south.
Personally, I found the small country and forest roads along the Lièvre River—via Notre-Dame-de-Laus and Val-des-Bois (Routes 309 then 307, avoiding the busier 311)—much more charming: more bucolic, winding just right, and fully paved.
Otherwise, you’re forced to take small roads that still see some car traffic.
Bike paths? Cycling routes? Quiet roads?
It’d be a bit of a pointless debate since skill and experience vary so much from one bike traveler to another. A young family with kids will need more safety, while a long-distance cyclist might prefer a loop route instead of backtracking on the same trail to see different landscapes and explore the region more.
The original poster is also considering biking around the Gaspésie, a region mainly served by Route 132, which loops around but isn’t particularly safe for cyclists. Can we assume they’ve got the experience to ride on quiet country roads like the ones I’m suggesting between Mont-Laurier and Gatineau?
Bike paths? Cycling lanes? Quiet roads?
It’d be a bit of a pointless debate, since skill and experience vary so much from one bike traveler to another, from one cyclist to another.
Oh really, you think it’s pointless?
Even when your own safety is at stake?
Well, I respect your point of view, but personally, I wouldn’t trust secondary roads—even if drivers in this province are conscientious.
Bike paths? Cycling lanes? Quiet roads?
It might seem like a bit of a pointless debate, since skill and experience vary so much from one bike traveler to another, from one cyclist to another.
Bike paths? Cycling lanes? Quiet roads?
It might seem like a bit of a pointless debate, since skill and experience vary so much from one cycle-traveler to another, from one cyclist to another.
Oh, you think it’s pointless?
Even when your own safety is at stake?
Well, if that’s your point of view, I respect it. But personally, I wouldn’t trust secondary roads, even if drivers in this province are conscientious.
I simply believe it’s a personal choice, depending on our own levels of comfort, our experience on the road, and who we’re cycling with. The word "pointless" might not be the best fit—I just wanted to avoid debating a subjective issue that isn’t mine to decide. I’ll say it again: "since skill and experience vary so much from one cycle-traveler to another, from one cyclist to another."
The route info I share is strictly for informational purposes—never a conviction or obligation. Everyone is free to take or leave the suggestions.
The same goes for elevation; I love mountainous routes on my bike trips, but I totally get that others might prefer easier bike paths. It’s all about personal freedom.
For the Mont-Laurier–Grand Remous–Maniwaki route, I find the quiet roads toward Gatineau much safer than the RV2 bike path to Val-d’Or, but that’s just my personal opinion—other cyclists might agree or not.
That said, I do know what I’m talking about, having biked all these routes in recent years.
Happy cycling season in Quebec (or anywhere else on the planet)!
!
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed
story being posted online soon
1100 km in 11 days
beautiful and varied regions
Hello,
We’d like to go on a 3- to 4-month bike trip starting in December, crossing from Assam (northeast India) to New Delhi via Nepal.
Are there routes with light traffic along the Brahmaputra and through Nepal?
We’re also looking for any info on accommodations, wild camping, local interactions, etc.
Thanks,
Michel
Hello,
Has anyone here had experience using a gas stove in Sardinia and Sicily? I’m wondering if screw-on gas canisters (not the blue Campingaz ones, but brands like Coleman, Primus, etc.) are easy to find.
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August!
Virginie
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires.
I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time).
I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral.
I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough?
And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
After testing it for three years across various modes of transport, I’m sharing this video of a bike packing case. It’s made from recycled cardboard and shrink-wrapped, with adjustable thickness and added bubble wrap depending on the level of protection you want.
Installing spacers at the fork and chainstays makes the packaging compact. With the fifteen-odd euros for shrink-wrapping at the airport, this case travels really well.
https://youtu.be/_GDJi-GqmkM
- Low bulk (1.10m x 0.70m x 0.25m for a large frame), it fits vertically in train luggage compartments and the total dimensions (x+y+z) don’t exceed 2.40m.
- Two carrying solutions for public transport and easy handling by airport staff (no more tears in the cardboard from openings).
- Discreet packaging when dealing with bus drivers and train conductors, as it looks like an ordinary parcel.
- No need to return to the starting point to retrieve the case from your outbound trip, which you’d otherwise have to store somewhere, or deal with a bulky cover to pack in your panniers.
- You can still check tire pressure through the plastic film without damaging the packaging too much.
Drawbacks: Around 3 hours for this lengthy and meticulous process—removing the wheels, pedals, handlebars, and derailleur without misaligning them, then securing all components to the frame.
If you get a chance to test it, send me your feedback for future improvements.
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam.
My question is about getting back to Nantes.
Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences.
I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes.
By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains.
We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance!
Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
I’m planning to build a new touring bike.
I want to prioritize lightness.
That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads.
The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper.
I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork.
Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm.
It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring.
And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear.
More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.
It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.
One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.
We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.
Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena
vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes
Here are his travels
Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné
Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way
Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place
Rural and quite peaceful
A road cycling route created by Serge B...
First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025.
It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border.
We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure!
Thanks in advance.