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Choix entre le Vietnam et la Birmanie
by Chris13
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Qui a voyagé dans ces deux pays. Que me conseillez vous de faire en premier ?
Christine
Il est des moments où les rêves les plus fous semblent réalisables à condition d'oser les tenter.... (Bernard Werber)
Il est des moments où les rêves les plus fous semblent réalisables à condition d'oser les tenter.... (Bernard Werber)
en toute objectivité, je ne vois pas l interet d aller au vietnam apres un voyage en birmanie.
conclusion : si tu souhaites faire les 2 pays, commence par le vietnam,
sinon va en birmanie (le pays le + sympa et le + extraordinaire à visiter en asie du sud est)
moi j ai hate de retourner en birmanie 😏
conclusion : si tu souhaites faire les 2 pays, commence par le vietnam,
sinon va en birmanie (le pays le + sympa et le + extraordinaire à visiter en asie du sud est)
moi j ai hate de retourner en birmanie 😏
vietnam ou birmanie ?
le vietnam est un pays touché par le tourisme, la birmanie par le gouvernement. si tu veux faire des trucs comme tout le monde, le vietnam parait bien, tu ne cherches rien, on trouve a ta place.
la birmanie est un pays magnifique ou le transport reste inoubliable, les locaux apprennent de vous et vous apprenez d eux . les sites sont grandioses et pas massacrés par tous ces bus de blancs fortunés.juste un dernier truc, reste au moins 4-5 jours a bagan, tu le regretteras sinon, crois moi .
je te conseille pour un premier voyage le vietnam avec a faire absoluement le nord du coté de babe lake pour ses ballades, est un des seul endroits ou tu te retrouveras car ya personne mais bien froid.
mais pourquoi pas faire les deux et prendre de longue de vaccances comme ça tu pourras connaitre egalement le laos, le pays refernce en matiere de gentillesse en asie du est.
nico
le vietnam est un pays touché par le tourisme, la birmanie par le gouvernement. si tu veux faire des trucs comme tout le monde, le vietnam parait bien, tu ne cherches rien, on trouve a ta place.
la birmanie est un pays magnifique ou le transport reste inoubliable, les locaux apprennent de vous et vous apprenez d eux . les sites sont grandioses et pas massacrés par tous ces bus de blancs fortunés.juste un dernier truc, reste au moins 4-5 jours a bagan, tu le regretteras sinon, crois moi .
je te conseille pour un premier voyage le vietnam avec a faire absoluement le nord du coté de babe lake pour ses ballades, est un des seul endroits ou tu te retrouveras car ya personne mais bien froid.
mais pourquoi pas faire les deux et prendre de longue de vaccances comme ça tu pourras connaitre egalement le laos, le pays refernce en matiere de gentillesse en asie du est.
nico
nico
pagan 4/5 jours
lac inle 4/5 jours aussi 😏
lac inle 4/5 jours aussi 😏
tout a fait d accord, sans oublier la beaute des birmanes.
mais en france c est pareil, on passe son temps à donner l argent à l etat 😏
mais en france c est pareil, on passe son temps à donner l argent à l etat 😏
chelou ! c est un langage de "has been" ou de banlieu ?
je ne juge jamais un pays sur sa politique, mais sur la beauté du pays, et la gentillesse de sa population, ... et la birmanie est superbe😏
et prendre position en politique ou religion, ne m interesse pas !
je ne juge jamais un pays sur sa politique, mais sur la beauté du pays, et la gentillesse de sa population, ... et la birmanie est superbe😏
et prendre position en politique ou religion, ne m interesse pas !
je suis fiere d'être un has been de banlieu, et de faire des rencontres extraordinaires dans d'autres pays.Avant d'aller en Birmaine il est souhaitable de se poser la question du totalitarisme et de la liberté individuelle, de se demander comment aborder ce pays, nous qui avons "la chance" de parler, lire, écouter, aimer, simplement vivre.Il ne me semble pas que la Birmaine respire tout cela, ou alors nous n'avons pas été pas le même pas pays, toi sûrement au Myanmar.
Alors pour touts les autres aller en Birmanie, pays généreux et magnifique 😏
Alors pour touts les autres aller en Birmanie, pays généreux et magnifique 😏
🙂 bonjour. de retour de birmanie depuis 2 semaines en voyages individuel pas de problemes tres bon pays d'asie. ne pas hesiter a poser questions precise.
s il est besoin de se poser des questions sur la politique des pays avant de voyager, je crois bien qu on n irait nul part (et surtout pas aux USA par ex)
le meilleur jugement est d aller sur place et de profiter, plutot que de subir l influence des medias...rien n est parfait en ce monde.
le meilleur jugement est d aller sur place et de profiter, plutot que de subir l influence des medias...rien n est parfait en ce monde.
bonjour
En asie du sud est depuis novembre, j'ai fais le vietnam et rentre juste de Birmanie.Completement different.
Les birmans sont adorable, paysage magnifique, par contre tres fatiguant de voyager a cause de l'etat des routes.Et puis y a ces tickets pour les sites touristiques, argent qui revient directement a la junte militaire, du coup je les ai tous esquives avec plus ou moins de facilite!La vie est loin d'etre facile pour la population, mais ils ont un coeur en or.Je me suis jamais senti aussi en securite qu'en birmanie.
Si tu dois choisir avec le vietnam, va en birmanie, t'oubliera jamais ce voyage...
Bonne route
traveller24
En asie du sud est depuis novembre, j'ai fais le vietnam et rentre juste de Birmanie.Completement different.
Les birmans sont adorable, paysage magnifique, par contre tres fatiguant de voyager a cause de l'etat des routes.Et puis y a ces tickets pour les sites touristiques, argent qui revient directement a la junte militaire, du coup je les ai tous esquives avec plus ou moins de facilite!La vie est loin d'etre facile pour la population, mais ils ont un coeur en or.Je me suis jamais senti aussi en securite qu'en birmanie.
Si tu dois choisir avec le vietnam, va en birmanie, t'oubliera jamais ce voyage...
Bonne route
traveller24
je trouve detestable l'inconscience de ces propos. le monde n'est pas un vaste parc d'attraction avec des gentils gens et des beaux paysages.
pour ma part et jusqu'a aujourd'hui, je me suis refuse d'aller en birmanie. je suis alle par contre au vietnam (2 fois) mais pas forcement comme tout le monde. il y a quantite de lieux qui ne sont pas courrus par le commun des touristes et qui permettent des rencontres et des visites inoubliables.
yvhanoi.
pour ma part et jusqu'a aujourd'hui, je me suis refuse d'aller en birmanie. je suis alle par contre au vietnam (2 fois) mais pas forcement comme tout le monde. il y a quantite de lieux qui ne sont pas courrus par le commun des touristes et qui permettent des rencontres et des visites inoubliables.
yvhanoi.
Il est certain en effet que le vietnam est un modèle de démocratie.😛
La birmanie est le plus beau pays de la région, on y va pour voir et apprendre des gens et non pour voter😛Je conseille à tous d'y aller pour ça change dans lee pays e🙂.Ne pas oublier néanmoins que Demain, quand la démocratie y regnera, on délocalisera nos usines la bas et nos appareil photo numérique nous reviendrons moins cher🙁
Je suis persuadé que tu vas en corse et dans des villes où les copains de Jean Marie sont nombreux et pourtant😏
Il ne faut pas confondre visiter un pays et le juger.
La birmanie est le plus beau pays de la région, on y va pour voir et apprendre des gens et non pour voter😛Je conseille à tous d'y aller pour ça change dans lee pays e🙂.Ne pas oublier néanmoins que Demain, quand la démocratie y regnera, on délocalisera nos usines la bas et nos appareil photo numérique nous reviendrons moins cher🙁
Je suis persuadé que tu vas en corse et dans des villes où les copains de Jean Marie sont nombreux et pourtant😏
Il ne faut pas confondre visiter un pays et le juger.
je crois que tu as raison, le vietnam c est magique, et les birmans sont des blaireaux de dictateurs !
tu vas en birmanie, et tout l argent part dans les coffres de la dictature !
question : en france, quand tu payes la tva, impots, peages...ca va ou ?
et si les birmans etaient isolés du monde, ca serait plus cool pour la population j imagine, aucune vison du monde exterieur...alors qu avec le PEU de touristes qui decide de decouvrir ce pays, ils ont le sourire et sont tres heureux d echanger des sourires, "discussions", marchander, partager tout simplement....
restons ZEN...la birmanie c est un des pays les + beaux d asie du SE
tu vas en birmanie, et tout l argent part dans les coffres de la dictature !
question : en france, quand tu payes la tva, impots, peages...ca va ou ?
et si les birmans etaient isolés du monde, ca serait plus cool pour la population j imagine, aucune vison du monde exterieur...alors qu avec le PEU de touristes qui decide de decouvrir ce pays, ils ont le sourire et sont tres heureux d echanger des sourires, "discussions", marchander, partager tout simplement....
restons ZEN...la birmanie c est un des pays les + beaux d asie du SE
pour info :
La République socialiste du Viet Nam est un État de dictature prolétarienne (article 2 de la Constitution). Le régime est communiste, avec un Parti unique, le P.C.V. (Parti Communiste Viet Namien).
http://portail.droit.francophonie.org/doc/html/vn/dtn/2001dfvndn1.html
😉
bienvenu en Birmanie !!!!
La République socialiste du Viet Nam est un État de dictature prolétarienne (article 2 de la Constitution). Le régime est communiste, avec un Parti unique, le P.C.V. (Parti Communiste Viet Namien).
http://portail.droit.francophonie.org/doc/html/vn/dtn/2001dfvndn1.html
😉
bienvenu en Birmanie !!!!
Je me souviens il y a plus de 12 ans m'être perdu tout prèt de la frontière Birmane en Thailande.En fait j'ai rencontré des B irmans à cette époque et j'ai vraiment regétté qu'à ce moment il était carément impossible et assez dangereux d'y aller.Mais aujourd'hui les birmans ont besoinsde nous voir car pour eux c'est impossible de sortir de leur pays.Je dis qu'il ne faut pas se poser les fausses questions de politiques sur le régime.Boykoter la Birmanie à cause de la junte c'est idiot!il faut y aller pour rencontrer les Birmans qui ont vraiment besoin de cette possibilité d'échanger leur coeur et leur culture avec des hommes et des femmes qui eux ne sont certainement pas des fachos!!!
Et comme dit EspritZen :"soyons Zen!"😏
C'est aussi simple que cela!
Ziz 😎
Et comme dit EspritZen :"soyons Zen!"😏
C'est aussi simple que cela!
Ziz 😎
est-ce jamais pretendu que le vietnam est un modele de democratie? non.
est-ce jamais pretendu que la france est un modele de democratie? non.
est-ce jamais pretendu etre le mieux a meme pour decider de boycotter ou non le tourisme en birmanie? non.
alors, qui demande de boycotter le tourisme en birmanie?Aung San Suu Kyi, la principale opposante a la junte militaire.
est-ce jamais pretendu que la france est un modele de democratie? non.
est-ce jamais pretendu etre le mieux a meme pour decider de boycotter ou non le tourisme en birmanie? non.
alors, qui demande de boycotter le tourisme en birmanie?Aung San Suu Kyi, la principale opposante a la junte militaire.
forcement le Boycott est toujours une decision POLITIQUE (quelquesoit les pays, multiples experiences comme iran, irak, lybie...)
les perdants sont toujours la population.
allez en Birmanie, c est donner une image de l exterieur à cette population qui ne demande qu a nous rencontrerje m abstiendrais de commentaires sur ta personne 😏
les perdants sont toujours la population.
allez en Birmanie, c est donner une image de l exterieur à cette population qui ne demande qu a nous rencontrerje m abstiendrais de commentaires sur ta personne 😏
effectivement, le boycott est un acte poilitique. mais contrairement aux exemples que tu cites, ce boycott la est reclame par des opposants interieurs qui sont je pense mieux places que toi ou moi pour analyser la situation.
lu sur le site belge d'amnesty international:
".../... Encore aujourd’hui, Aung San Suu Kyi continue de se battre pour la liberté de son peuple, et à appeler sans relâche à des sanctions économiques contre la junte et au boycott du tourisme.
par Pierre Cossement, publié le 9 avril 2003" et je n'ai pas compris ta derniere remarque...
lu sur le site belge d'amnesty international:
".../... Encore aujourd’hui, Aung San Suu Kyi continue de se battre pour la liberté de son peuple, et à appeler sans relâche à des sanctions économiques contre la junte et au boycott du tourisme.
par Pierre Cossement, publié le 9 avril 2003" et je n'ai pas compris ta derniere remarque...
moi je n ecoute jamais les politiques (meme les opposants !)
et la birmanie est vraiment le + beau pays d asie du SE (vietnam...bof bof)
le tourisme est une goutte d eau dans les rentrees d argent pour le pays, au regard de la drogue, gaz...
mais le tourisme est le rayon de soleil pour les birmans.
et la birmanie est vraiment le + beau pays d asie du SE (vietnam...bof bof)
le tourisme est une goutte d eau dans les rentrees d argent pour le pays, au regard de la drogue, gaz...
mais le tourisme est le rayon de soleil pour les birmans.
S'il faut parler ploiltique parlons-en avec le plus de franchise possible.En demandant un boycot du tourisme cette honorable et courageuse femme politique prive du même coup ces concitoyens de la seule possibilité d'avoir des contacts humains avec le monde extérieur.Donc on peut ne pas être d'accord avec elle sut toute la ligne .Et continuer à conseiller aux voyageurs d'aller en Birmanie.l'argent du tourisme dans tous les pays du monde va d'abord dans la poche des Etats pas dans celle des populations que ce soit une dictature ou une vraie démocracie...On se demande même si une présence d'étranger dans ce pays ne conttribuerait pas plutôt à infléchir la politique hyper répressive de la junte dans ce pays.
Donc il faut aller en Birmanie et même au Vietnam...
Ziz
Donc il faut aller en Birmanie et même au Vietnam...
Ziz
Un périple en moto en Birmanie:voila une idée simple courageuse et généreuse.
ziz
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Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Hi there,
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Bonjour,
En voyage en Thaïlande je suis à la recherche de jonc bouddhiste kumlai.
Quelqu’un saurait-il me guider pour en trouver?
À Bangkok j’ai visité quelques temple mais je n’en n’ai pas trouvé sur les magasins à proximité.
Si vous avez une idée je suis preneuse! Belle journée :-)
Hi there
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi everyone. As I’m planning my trip for next winter, I’m looking for hotel suggestions in Camotes, Bantayan, Malapascua, Bohol, and Siquijor. The ones I had in mind seem to be fully booked (unless it’s too early?). For those familiar with the area, is it easy to find accommodations on the spot in January/February? I’m specifically looking for hotels with a pool, beachfront, air conditioning, and easy scooter rental nearby. Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:

Kanchanaburi:

Sri Chiangmai:

Soppong:

Tha Wang Pha:

🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
Hi everyone,
My girlfriend and I booked our tickets with Saudia Airlines for a trip to Thailand this summer, from July 5th to August 3rd. Given the geopolitical situation in the Middle East, we’re keeping a close eye on the news.
I was wondering if anyone here is in the same situation as us?
• Have you heard anything about possible mass cancellations or if the airline is still maintaining its routes to Asia?
• Are there any travelers who’ve recently returned who could tell us if air corridors have been changed (longer flight times)?
The idea is to know what to expect so we can prepare as best as possible. Thanks for your replies! !
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Thanks for all your contributions on the forum—they’ve really helped me plan my trip. There are four of us friends heading to Sulawesi for 20 days. Based on all your advice, I’ve put together the following itinerary:
July 30: Makassar – sightseeing July 31: Makassar – sightseeing + overnight bus to Rantepao August 1–7: Tana Toraja with a guide August 7: Tana Toraja to Tentena + visit Tentena August 8: Early departure with a private driver to Ampana, then ferry to the Togian Islands August 9–15: Togian Islands (2 different resorts) August 15: Depart Togian Islands for Luwuk August 16: Flight Luwuk to Makassar August 17: Rammang Rammang August 18: Stroll in Makassar, then return home
Overall, what do you think?
I also have a question about the connection between Tentena and the Togian Islands: Is it doable to leave early in the morning as planned and still be sure not to miss the ferry?
Thanks in advance for your feedback! :)
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
Hi everyone,
Family of 4—2 adults and 2 kids (11 and 15) who are well-traveled. We’re planning a 15-day trip to Indonesia and would love your thoughts on our itinerary. We love discovering local culture, food (!!), seeing beautiful landscapes, and keeping an active pace. We’re not the type to lounge on the beach for 5 hours or spend ages by the pool when we’re halfway across the world. Also, we try to avoid places "ruined" by mass tourism (like Holbox in Mexico, which we loved 10 years ago but not at all on our last visit, or Phi Phi in Thailand, completely destroyed by mass tourism).
Special note: we love traveling by train :)
Here’s what we’ve planned so far:
**Day 1** Arrival in Jakarta, then domestic flight to Yogyakarta. Settle in Yogyakarta.
**Day 2** Borobudur in the morning, then exploring nearby villages.
**Day 3** Prambanan in the morning, followed by culinary discovery / market / local vibe in Yogyakarta.
**Day 4** Train to Jombang, then driver/bus to the Bromo area. Overnight stay.
**Day 5** Sunrise at Bromo, exploring the volcano and sea of sand. Relax in the afternoon.
**Day 6** Travel to eastern Java, then train, ferry, and road to reach Sidemen in Bali.
**Day 7** Sidemen
**Day 8** Sidemen
**Day 9** Sidemen
**Day 10** Transfer to Gili Air (car to the port + fast boat?)
**Day 11** Gili Air
**Day 12** Gili Air
**Day 13** Transfer to Ubud
**Day 14** Ubud
**Day 15** Return to Bali airport, flight to Jakarta, then international flight.
Does this itinerary seem coherent for a family? Does it feel too packed or well-balanced? Would you make any changes to certain stops, durations, or transfers?
Thanks so much for your tips and experiences!
Family of 4—2 adults and 2 kids (11 and 15) who are well-traveled. We’re planning a 15-day trip to Indonesia and would love your thoughts on our itinerary. We love discovering local culture, food (!!), seeing beautiful landscapes, and keeping an active pace. We’re not the type to lounge on the beach for 5 hours or spend ages by the pool when we’re halfway across the world. Also, we try to avoid places "ruined" by mass tourism (like Holbox in Mexico, which we loved 10 years ago but not at all on our last visit, or Phi Phi in Thailand, completely destroyed by mass tourism).
Special note: we love traveling by train :)
Here’s what we’ve planned so far:
**Day 1** Arrival in Jakarta, then domestic flight to Yogyakarta. Settle in Yogyakarta.
**Day 2** Borobudur in the morning, then exploring nearby villages.
**Day 3** Prambanan in the morning, followed by culinary discovery / market / local vibe in Yogyakarta.
**Day 4** Train to Jombang, then driver/bus to the Bromo area. Overnight stay.
**Day 5** Sunrise at Bromo, exploring the volcano and sea of sand. Relax in the afternoon.
**Day 6** Travel to eastern Java, then train, ferry, and road to reach Sidemen in Bali.
**Day 7** Sidemen
**Day 8** Sidemen
**Day 9** Sidemen
**Day 10** Transfer to Gili Air (car to the port + fast boat?)
**Day 11** Gili Air
**Day 12** Gili Air
**Day 13** Transfer to Ubud
**Day 14** Ubud
**Day 15** Return to Bali airport, flight to Jakarta, then international flight.
Does this itinerary seem coherent for a family? Does it feel too packed or well-balanced? Would you make any changes to certain stops, durations, or transfers?
Thanks so much for your tips and experiences!





