Comment découvrir le Sud marocain?
by Rorolostéo
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous et à toutes ...
Mon amie et moi envisageons un petit périple en amoureux à la découverte d'une petite partie du sud-marocain (Marrakech, Ouarzazat, ...) pour finir sur Essaouira et tout cela sur 8 à 10 jours !
Notre budget est correct sans être mirobolant (800 à 900 euros/personne) et je voudrais savoir si vous me conseilleriez plutôt un tour-operator ou un itinérant avec location de voiture ?
Biensûr, si vous connaissez d'autres formules sympa ...
Bref, merci d'avance à tous ceux, locaux ou amoureux du Maroc, qui nous ferons partager leurs bons tuyaux.
Romain
Bonsoir,
JE partage avec vous mon circuit pour fin Août Inchallah -comme on dit ici- et libre à vous de vous l'appropriez puisque je suppose que vous voulez prendre le temps d'apprécier tous ses sites. Nous au contraire on voudrait optimiser et voir le maximum :
1er jour : Marrakech : Visites des principaux monuments de la ville. 2ème jour : l'Ourika et setti Fatma Gîte sur place. 3ème jour : Marrakech ==> Ouarzazate : Kasba Ait Ben Hadou, Studio Cinéma et Taourirt 4ème jour : Ouarzazate ==> Kelaa Megouna ==> Gorges du Dades ==> Tinghir 5 ème jour : Tinghir ==> Gorges du Todra ==> Ouarzazate 6 èm jour : Ouarzazate ==> Agdz ==> Zagoura 7 ème jour : Zagoura ==> Agdz ==> Foum Zguid 8 ème jour : Foum Zguid ==> Tissante ==> Tata ==> Tafraoute 9 ème jour : Tafraoute ==> Tiznit ==> Agadir ==> Imessouane => Essaouira 10 ème jour : Retour sur Marrakech
Salutations
JE partage avec vous mon circuit pour fin Août Inchallah -comme on dit ici- et libre à vous de vous l'appropriez puisque je suppose que vous voulez prendre le temps d'apprécier tous ses sites. Nous au contraire on voudrait optimiser et voir le maximum :
1er jour : Marrakech : Visites des principaux monuments de la ville. 2ème jour : l'Ourika et setti Fatma Gîte sur place. 3ème jour : Marrakech ==> Ouarzazate : Kasba Ait Ben Hadou, Studio Cinéma et Taourirt 4ème jour : Ouarzazate ==> Kelaa Megouna ==> Gorges du Dades ==> Tinghir 5 ème jour : Tinghir ==> Gorges du Todra ==> Ouarzazate 6 èm jour : Ouarzazate ==> Agdz ==> Zagoura 7 ème jour : Zagoura ==> Agdz ==> Foum Zguid 8 ème jour : Foum Zguid ==> Tissante ==> Tata ==> Tafraoute 9 ème jour : Tafraoute ==> Tiznit ==> Agadir ==> Imessouane => Essaouira 10 ème jour : Retour sur Marrakech
Salutations
En principe, tous les Hommes, sont par nature, de condition libre et sont exempts par conséquent de toute cause d'asservissement; quiconque nie cette liberté individuelle, nie ce principe fondamental. Anonyme, Maroc, 15ème siècle
slt pour 8/9 jours c'est possible mais il faut qu'il sera organiser afin de ne pas retourner chez vous sans avoir emporter des cadeaux à vos proches
ok
bonjour,
Que de route, que de kms, et d'aller retours inutiles !
pourquoi faire un aller retour Ouarzazate Tinghir sur la meme route alors qu'il y en a une superbe route par Tazzarine Alnif ?? pourquoi faire cet aller retour, si vite, alors qu'il y a tant de choses sur ce parcours, palmeraie de Skoura, vallée des roses, gorges du todghra, gorges du dades, qui méritent chacun au moins une demi journée, pour un touriste pressé, mais beaucoup plus, si on veut apprécier! Pourquoi aller à Zagora si ce n'est que pour y faire demi tour ?? pourquoi passer tant de temps à Ouarzazate alors qu'une heure suffit, les studios ne valent pas un clou, et sont hors de prix ?? Les journées 7 8 et 9 sont interminables, juste le temps de dormir, et dans cette région ou c'est la fournaise ! Difficile à croire que tu habites le Maroc et que tu ne le connaisse que si peu ???
Que de route, que de kms, et d'aller retours inutiles !
pourquoi faire un aller retour Ouarzazate Tinghir sur la meme route alors qu'il y en a une superbe route par Tazzarine Alnif ?? pourquoi faire cet aller retour, si vite, alors qu'il y a tant de choses sur ce parcours, palmeraie de Skoura, vallée des roses, gorges du todghra, gorges du dades, qui méritent chacun au moins une demi journée, pour un touriste pressé, mais beaucoup plus, si on veut apprécier! Pourquoi aller à Zagora si ce n'est que pour y faire demi tour ?? pourquoi passer tant de temps à Ouarzazate alors qu'une heure suffit, les studios ne valent pas un clou, et sont hors de prix ?? Les journées 7 8 et 9 sont interminables, juste le temps de dormir, et dans cette région ou c'est la fournaise ! Difficile à croire que tu habites le Maroc et que tu ne le connaisse que si peu ???
le grand oracle du maroc a sévi encore
en tout cas merci pour tant d'infos mais je me serai bien passé de ta dernière phrase mais bon je pourrai pas t'en vouloir ici on respecte les gens d'un certain âge.
Si seulement tu faisais preuve d'empathie et que tu réajustes ton sens de la formulation tes post et tes avis seraient plus appréciables.
mais bon heureusement que la perfection n'est l'apanage de personne.
PS : Merci de plus répondre à mes post et de pas décortiquer celui-là pour motiver ton attitude je pense que je suis pas le premier ni d'ailleurs le dernier à te faire ce genre de remarques, un auto-diagnostic s'impose?
Bon séjour parmi nous malgré tout
en tout cas merci pour tant d'infos mais je me serai bien passé de ta dernière phrase mais bon je pourrai pas t'en vouloir ici on respecte les gens d'un certain âge.
Si seulement tu faisais preuve d'empathie et que tu réajustes ton sens de la formulation tes post et tes avis seraient plus appréciables.
mais bon heureusement que la perfection n'est l'apanage de personne.
PS : Merci de plus répondre à mes post et de pas décortiquer celui-là pour motiver ton attitude je pense que je suis pas le premier ni d'ailleurs le dernier à te faire ce genre de remarques, un auto-diagnostic s'impose?
Bon séjour parmi nous malgré tout
En principe, tous les Hommes, sont par nature, de condition libre et sont exempts par conséquent de toute cause d'asservissement; quiconque nie cette liberté individuelle, nie ce principe fondamental. Anonyme, Maroc, 15ème siècle
Bonjour Romain,
Entre un T.O et un voyage itinérant, tu as aussi l'option de choisir une agence locale au Maroc.
C'est ce que nous avons fait en avril dernier (avec razgui-sahara) au départ de Marrakech : circuit en 4x4 découverte sud-marocain et désert, en voyage individuel : super séjour ! Tant par les endroits visités que par l'organisation et la gentillesse du personnel de l'agence (guide, chameliers, chauffeur). Et au moins nous étions en famille, et pas noyés dans la masse. On a passé des moments inoubliables (comme la plupart des gens qui ont apprécié le Maroc d'ailleurs).
Sinon, en itinérant ça peut être pas mal non plus, mais je te déconseille (et ça n'engage que moi) les T.O -
C'est ce que nous avons fait en avril dernier (avec razgui-sahara) au départ de Marrakech : circuit en 4x4 découverte sud-marocain et désert, en voyage individuel : super séjour ! Tant par les endroits visités que par l'organisation et la gentillesse du personnel de l'agence (guide, chameliers, chauffeur). Et au moins nous étions en famille, et pas noyés dans la masse. On a passé des moments inoubliables (comme la plupart des gens qui ont apprécié le Maroc d'ailleurs).
Sinon, en itinérant ça peut être pas mal non plus, mais je te déconseille (et ça n'engage que moi) les T.O -Bonjour,
Nous avons fait le Sud+Essaouira au départ et retour de Marrakech en 10 jours avec une voiture de location réservée sur place.
Pour vous faire une idée, vous pouvez aller voir notre récit de voyage, itinéraire, photos, prix, infos pratiques http://jacquinfr4.free.fr/programme.htm
Nous avions prévu les 2 premiers et les 2 derniers jours à Marrakech, c'était trop, deux jours suffisent pour voir l'essentiel.
Votre budjet tient la route, nous avions dépensé 1900 euros pour 2 semaines voyage compris à deux et sans se priver http://jacquinfr4.free.fr/sommaire.htm#budget
Bon voyage.
intarissable, c'est le moins qu'on puisse dire, en tout cas ses connaissances sur le Maroc sont réelles....c'est un vrai puits de sciences
Sa connaissance du pays serait très appréciable si elle n'était pas empreinte de tant de mépris à l'égard des autres On n'est pas loin du véritable complexe de supériorité. Donner des conseils et des avis, ça n'a rien à voir avec "se jeter directement sur le profil de l'internaute et éplucher son pedigree pour mieux dénigrer sur le forum ce qu'il avance". un avis reste un avis. y compris le sien. Inutile d'y rajouter ses états d'âme.
raoulx est loin d'être le seul à avoir de bonnes connaissances du Maroc. mais la plupart des autres ne répondent plus aux messages, las des répliques systématiques désobligeantes...
cordialement.
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I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)