Croisière en Egypte: les coffre fort en cabine, chambre ou à la réception?
by Bottin
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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je suis à la recherche comment ça se passe pour les coffres-forts (je ne voyage pas beaucoup et je n'ai pas jamais eu cette chance là d'avoir un coffre-for) mais comme nous partons en egypte à fin du mois, je voudrais savoir 1.- s'ils se trouvent dans la chambre ou dans une cabine lors d'une croisière ou à la réception, sont-ils payant, sont-ils surs, que pouvez-vouus me conseiller quant à ranger dans ceux-ci nos passeports, appareils de photos, etc.. quelle est la différence entre un coffre-fort dans une chambre ou à la réception, pas que je sois stupide mais la différence de pratique....merci pour vos conseils
Hello bottin ! Alors première question souvent les coffres sont payants mais il n'y a en pas systématiquement, autant se renseigner à l'agence ou sur le site du bateau ou de l'hôtel.
La différence entre le coffre d'une chambre et celle de la réception : j'avais posé la question à l'époque à l'hôtel où nous logions et ils nous avaient répondu qu'à la réception de 1: la sécurité était plus sûre et de 2 : qu'en cas de vol c'était assuré (vol qui arrive rarement car en principe il s'ouvre avec 2 clés, une pour la réception et une pour vous). Le seul inconvénient est que parfois vous devez attendre que le réceptionniste soit libre.
Chaque fois que je pars je laisse mes papiers en lieu sûr et je fais une copie du passeport que je garde sur moi. Parfois le guide garde les passeports durant toute la croisière alors fait une copie et garde-la sur toi.
L'appareil photo je l'ai toujours avec moi. Bon voyage petite veinarde.
La différence entre le coffre d'une chambre et celle de la réception : j'avais posé la question à l'époque à l'hôtel où nous logions et ils nous avaient répondu qu'à la réception de 1: la sécurité était plus sûre et de 2 : qu'en cas de vol c'était assuré (vol qui arrive rarement car en principe il s'ouvre avec 2 clés, une pour la réception et une pour vous). Le seul inconvénient est que parfois vous devez attendre que le réceptionniste soit libre.
Chaque fois que je pars je laisse mes papiers en lieu sûr et je fais une copie du passeport que je garde sur moi. Parfois le guide garde les passeports durant toute la croisière alors fait une copie et garde-la sur toi.
L'appareil photo je l'ai toujours avec moi. Bon voyage petite veinarde.
Lorsque j'en aurais assez d'aller voir au loin j'irai voir d'où je viens.
Bonjour,
Je tends à penser que le passeport, c'est sur soi, et sans exception.
Michel
Je tends à penser que le passeport, c'est sur soi, et sans exception.
Michel
Bonjour,
en fait quand tu fais une croisiere ils vous confisquent les passeports 😛 comme ca tu restes sur le bateau pour mieux depenser.
en fait quand tu fais une croisiere ils vous confisquent les passeports 😛 comme ca tu restes sur le bateau pour mieux depenser.
Il doit y avoir moyen de s'y soustraire.....
Michel
Michel
J'étais d'accord avec ça jusqu'au jour où une copine a perdu le sien. Aïe quelle galère elle n'avait plus aucun papier d'identité sur elle (c'était en Grèce, à Patra ) et nous partions 2 jours après. Elle a passé ces 2 derniers jours à l'Ambassade de Suisse à Athènes (et croyez-moi Patra c'est pas la porte à côté d'Athènes) c'est là-bas qui lui ont conseillé de faire ainsi au cas où ça arriverait à nouveau, les choses irait plus vite avec une copie. Jusqu'au dernier moment nous ne savions pas si elle rentrerait avec nous où non, par chance elle est tombée sur quelqu'un de super efficace.
Voilà, comme on dit chat échaudé........
Voilà, comme on dit chat échaudé........
Lorsque j'en aurais assez d'aller voir au loin j'irai voir d'où je viens.
Ah je fais aussi une copie.... 🙂
Mais celui que je prends, c'est l'original !
Michel
Michel
merci pour tous ces conseils, je vais donc quand même en faire une copie on ne sait jamais
A bientot mon départ s'approche j'ai reçu aujourd'hui la documentation de l'agence et il y a un jour ou nous prenons l'avion pour Abdu Simbel à 5 heures du mat, ça sera une belle et dure journée j'imagine et je me réjouis déjà, heureusement que j'ai fait une prolongation de quelques jours à Hurghada pour pouvoir se reposer, en + aujourd'hui l'agence m'a confirmé que sur place c'était Sylvia Tours qui nous coachter sur place, par hasard tu connais, je vais faire aussi une recherche et je vais aussi prendre un dico anglais-français on ne sait jamais moi qui ne sait pas un seul mot d'anglais, à bientot
Faux, pas systématiquement! Je suis partie en mai cette année et j'ai pu garder mon passeport.
😏 Si cela peut te faire plaisir, j'aurais du ecrire "dans la plupart des cas" 😏
Abschuldigung mein herr! 😛
😏 Si cela peut te faire plaisir, j'aurais du ecrire "dans la plupart des cas" 😏
Abschuldigung mein herr! 😛
Non je ne connais pas Sylviatours mais en général l'agence de départ s'arrange pour que le guide qui prend en charge sur place parle la langue de ses clients.
Tu verras Abu Simbel c'est MAGNIFIQUE - si tu pouvais avoir une petite pensée pour moi sur ce site ça serait vachement sympa - Le vol est court, entre 30 et 45 mn. Regarde le plus possible par le hublot, la vue est fabuleuse. En général les places sont libres alors si tu peux te mettre à côté du hublot...fonce !!😄.
Bon voyage !
Lorsque j'en aurais assez d'aller voir au loin j'irai voir d'où je viens.
En ce qui concerne les cares postales, en trouve-t-on partout e quand on les trouve dans les "kiosques" savez-vous s'ils vous vendent les timbres avec, voulez-vous que je vous envoie une carte postale de cet endroit comme vous le décrivez magnifique, mais j'aurai une pensée positive à votre nom pour tous les précieux renseignements que vous m'avez donnés
Merci bottin.
Pour les cartes postales on les touve sur tous les sites et sur le bateau demandez les timbres avec, ils vendent les deux au même endroit. Moi je les postais toujours depuis le bateau ou depuis l'hôtel et elles sont toujours arrivées à bon port mais ça prend un peu de temps (7 à 12 jours). Si je repérais une boîte par hasard je les postais là le lendemain mais je ne perdais pas de temps à en chercher une. Je n'ai pas vu de grande différence entre les boîtes, le bateau ou l'hôtel. De toute façon en général les gens recoivent les cartes alors qu'on est déjà de retour😄 mais c'est pas bien grave.
C'est gentil de proposer de m'écrire mais une pensée sur place suffira, 😎ça me ferait plaisir d'avoir de vos nouvelles à votre retour, sur ce forum, en privé ou en partage.
C'est bientôt là, profitez au max. de chaque minute, mettez-vous en plein la vue et plein la tête.😇😉
C'est bientôt là, profitez au max. de chaque minute, mettez-vous en plein la vue et plein la tête.😇😉
Lorsque j'en aurais assez d'aller voir au loin j'irai voir d'où je viens.
oui je me réjouis dans trois semaines j'y serai je regarde tous les jours la température et comme aujourd'hui à 20 heures il ferait encore 33-35 àLouxor, Simbel et Assouan et 25 au Caire, j'espère que ça baisse un peu car on va souffrir à ce tarif et c'est inimaginable de partir de Suisse à 15degrés et arriver à 30 degrés, quel dépaysement, oui je ne manquerai pas de vous faire un compte-rendu de ce magnifique voyage et j'espère que tout ira bien avec ce TO car j'envisage l'année prochaine de partir en Israel sur les lieux bibliques, donc j'espère ne pas revenir deçue ce que je doute, à bientot et merci encore pour tous ces précieux renseignements.
Bonjour,
Les choses ont-elles évolué depuis ?
J'ai, en effet, le projet d'effectuer une croisière en mars 2008 avec l'organisateur de voyage STI, la croisière se nomme BASTET.
Nous devons visiter le Temple d'Abou Simbel en autocar depuis Assouan, puis nous rendre à l'Hôtel SETI et, enfin, assister au son et lumière le soir.
Combien de temps faut-il pour se rendre d'Assouan à Abu Simbel par autocar ? Est-ce dangereux ?
Il y aura bientôt 20 ans, janvier 1988, j'avais effectué le trajet en avion, par Egypt Air, malheureusement, cela n'était prévu, sans supplément, que par autocar.
En espérant vous lire prochainement.
Les choses ont-elles évolué depuis ?
J'ai, en effet, le projet d'effectuer une croisière en mars 2008 avec l'organisateur de voyage STI, la croisière se nomme BASTET.
Nous devons visiter le Temple d'Abou Simbel en autocar depuis Assouan, puis nous rendre à l'Hôtel SETI et, enfin, assister au son et lumière le soir.
Combien de temps faut-il pour se rendre d'Assouan à Abu Simbel par autocar ? Est-ce dangereux ?
Il y aura bientôt 20 ans, janvier 1988, j'avais effectué le trajet en avion, par Egypt Air, malheureusement, cela n'était prévu, sans supplément, que par autocar.
En espérant vous lire prochainement.
Hello, en principe si Abou Simbel est prévu dans le forfait en car et que vous voulez le faire en avion vous aurez un supplément c'est sûr. Je vais vous parler hônnetement, le trajet en car est très long (4 à 5 heures ) aller seulement, ils conduisent comme des fous mais ils sont habitués, il y a beaucoup d'accidents de car en été sur les routes françaises et pourtant les routes sont bonnes ! Donc ce n'est pas un critère. Moi je préfère le voyage en avion qui est rapide (entre 30 et 45 min.) moins fatiguant et d'où la vue du ciel est splendide, vraiment splendide. Le prix car ou avion passe du simple ou double mais le gain de temps est considérable et je trouve, mais c'est personnel, qu'en Egypte il y a trop de choses à voir pour perdre du temps dans un car si vous n'y rester qu'une semaine ou 10 jours.😉 C'est bien d'assister au son et lumière et ça sera encore mieux si vous pouvez assister au lever du soleil sur ce site fantastique. Bon voyage
Lorsque j'en aurais assez d'aller voir au loin j'irai voir d'où je viens.
😊
Bonjour,
Merci beaucoup pour votre prompte réponse. En fait, le trajet en avion n'est même pas proposé en option, dans cette croisière BASTET.
Pourtant, je suis comme vous, je garde un souvenir impérissable de mon premier voyage en avion à Abu simbel, d'autant que j'avais eu droit à une place avec hublot située sur la gauche de l'appareil, tant et si bien que j'ai pu prendre la photo de ma vie du temple d'Abu simbel, lorsque l'avion, en phase d'atterissage, s'est mis à viré sur la droite en passant devant le temple !!
Sinon, connaissez-vous l'hôtel SETI à Abu simbel et, plus particulièrement, qu'y-a-t-il à voir, sur place, en dehors des deux temples ? Vers qu'elle heure doit-on se rendre sur le site, le lendemain matin, pour voir le lever de soleil sur les temples ?
Bien cordialement
Bonjour,
Merci beaucoup pour votre prompte réponse. En fait, le trajet en avion n'est même pas proposé en option, dans cette croisière BASTET.
Pourtant, je suis comme vous, je garde un souvenir impérissable de mon premier voyage en avion à Abu simbel, d'autant que j'avais eu droit à une place avec hublot située sur la gauche de l'appareil, tant et si bien que j'ai pu prendre la photo de ma vie du temple d'Abu simbel, lorsque l'avion, en phase d'atterissage, s'est mis à viré sur la droite en passant devant le temple !!
Sinon, connaissez-vous l'hôtel SETI à Abu simbel et, plus particulièrement, qu'y-a-t-il à voir, sur place, en dehors des deux temples ? Vers qu'elle heure doit-on se rendre sur le site, le lendemain matin, pour voir le lever de soleil sur les temples ?
Bien cordialement
Oh c'est dommage mais ma foi l'essentiel c'est de pouvoir se rendre sur ce site exceptionnel.
Je ne me suis pas rendue à l'hôtel Seti mais je connais des personnes qui l'ont trouvé très à leur goût. La vue sur le lac Nasser est paraît-il très belle et les chambres sont en fait dans de petits bungalows en dôme blanc, décoration nubienne, le site se trouve à 20 mn de l'hôtel à pied.
Pour l'heure du lever du soleil il faudra demander sur place. Il y a une chose dont je ne suis pas sûre c'est la date du 20 octobre. A cette date il semblerait que le soleil pénètre dans le grand temple et atteint la fameuse pièce des dieux tout au fond et les éclaire un par un sauf Ptah qui doit rester dans l'ombre. Si vous êtes sur place ce jour-là il faut absolument vous renseigner et ne pas louper ce phénomène qui n'a lieu que 2 fois par an. Je vous envie même s'il faudra vous lever très tôt (entre 3h30- 4h je pense) Rê se lève très tôt dans le désert.
Lorsque j'en aurais assez d'aller voir au loin j'irai voir d'où je viens.
😎
Re-bonjour,
La croisière est prévue du 1er au 8 mars 2008. J'espère que nous assisterons tout de même à un lever de soleil de toute beauté.
Merci encore pour tous vos précieux renseignements.
Bien cordialement
Re-bonjour,
La croisière est prévue du 1er au 8 mars 2008. J'espère que nous assisterons tout de même à un lever de soleil de toute beauté.
Merci encore pour tous vos précieux renseignements.
Bien cordialement
Ah je fais aussi une copie.... 🙂
Mais celui que je prends, c'est l'original !
Michel
Là dessus comme je disais dans un autre post, on est bien d'accord...! 🙂 Comme quoi !! Une copie dans chaque bagages et une copie chez moi que la famille peut me faxer au cas où...🙂 Bcp rigoleront et diront que l'on voit le mal partout et qu'il suffit de faire attention mais...quand tu l'as égaré ou fait tomber qq part (c'est arrivé à des clients cet été en Norvège, vous savez là où il y a des bateaux, des fjords, des cascades, des trolls!! 😏), ils étaient contents d'avoir laissé une copie chez eux que la famille pouvait faxer 😏 et ça peut arriver à nimporte qui pas seulement quelqu'un à qui on dit "tu es toujours dans la lune!!" Au Maroc heureusement que je l'avais sur moi car avec l'amie chez qui je logeais en sortant d'un bar on s'est fait interroger par des policiers tatillons qui nous ont demandé ce qu'on faisait là à cette heure ci...
Sans rancune pour tout le reste ! 😏 A chacun son point de vue et je vais arrêter de répondre systématiquement comme cela on ne polluera pas le forum tous les deux en s'insultant presque, sinon on peut le faire en mp, ça énervera moins les autres lol. Bonne fin de journée à toi
Michel
Là dessus comme je disais dans un autre post, on est bien d'accord...! 🙂 Comme quoi !! Une copie dans chaque bagages et une copie chez moi que la famille peut me faxer au cas où...🙂 Bcp rigoleront et diront que l'on voit le mal partout et qu'il suffit de faire attention mais...quand tu l'as égaré ou fait tomber qq part (c'est arrivé à des clients cet été en Norvège, vous savez là où il y a des bateaux, des fjords, des cascades, des trolls!! 😏), ils étaient contents d'avoir laissé une copie chez eux que la famille pouvait faxer 😏 et ça peut arriver à nimporte qui pas seulement quelqu'un à qui on dit "tu es toujours dans la lune!!" Au Maroc heureusement que je l'avais sur moi car avec l'amie chez qui je logeais en sortant d'un bar on s'est fait interroger par des policiers tatillons qui nous ont demandé ce qu'on faisait là à cette heure ci...
Sans rancune pour tout le reste ! 😏 A chacun son point de vue et je vais arrêter de répondre systématiquement comme cela on ne polluera pas le forum tous les deux en s'insultant presque, sinon on peut le faire en mp, ça énervera moins les autres lol. Bonne fin de journée à toi
En Norvège, il n'y a pas de mauvais temps, il n'y a que des mauvais vêtements. Proverbe norvégien.
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I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
Hi everyone! :)
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!





