Bonjour à tous.
Je suis aller aujourd'hui en moto au cirque de Jaffar.
Comme c'est toujours la galère pour avoir des infos, voici des nouvelles fraiches.
Je précise que je suis en moto, un gros trail très lourd. J'étais en plus tout seul sans GPS, juste avec mon smartphone et maps me avec la carte du maroc en local. Très pratique car de très nombreuses pistes y sont répertoriées.
Tout d'abord j'ai fait une tentative par les gorges de Jaffar. La phase d'approche est tranquille et très belle.
Par contre la descente dans les gorges est bien raide et j'ai failli tomber 2 fois car les deux roues dérapaient parfois.
J'enquille dans les gorges et la très grosse galère. A cause probablement des grosses pluies de cette année, il n'y a quasiment pas de piste. Faut rouler directement dans la caillasse de l'oued mais tout est mou, meuble et ça s'enfonce de partout. J'arrive quand même à faire un peu plus d'1 km dans les gorges mais seul, et sans réseau plus 3 chutes évitées de peu me font renoncer. A deux motos j'aurais continué mais pas seul.
Donc demi tour pour reprendre la route direction Tounfite en récupérant la P7323 via des pistes visibles sur mapsme jusqu'au croisement qui rejoint la P7318. A droite direction Tounfite, à gauche le cirque de Jaffar. Je prends donc à gauche. La piste est petite mais sèche et pas caillouteuse donc en prenant son temps ça passe nickel jusqu'au cirque. La descente en bas du cirque est en lacets et un peu plus technique mais la aussi ça passe bien. Arrivé en bas il faut traverser l'oued. Je peste contre ma moto si lourde qui ne donne pas droit à l'erreur mais ça passe.
Ensuite on rejoint la piste qui mène à Midelt, toujours la P7318 et la ça devient un vrai boulevard.
Conclusion : Le cirque est parfaitement accessible de Midelt via la P7318 par tout ce qui roule.
En provenance de Tounfite, un 4x4 tout simple type duster convient.
Pour enquiller dans les gorges, la c'est une autre histoire, un vrai 4x4 est indispensable. En moto je pense que ça doit passer même avec un gros trail à condition d'être plusieurs et d'aimer transpirer.
Et pour terminer c'est très beau.
Et tant qu'à faire, de Midelt, il faut aussi absolument voir les mines de plomb abandonnées dans les gorges de Ahouli. Magnifique et accessible en voiture de tourisme.MK
Merci pour le retour.
Comment est la descente?
Avant les travaux il y avait beaucoup de dévers🤪
et un rocher à contourné dans le 1er quart en haut.
J'espère qu'il n'y a pas de goudron!!!
Bonjour.
De quelle descente parles tu ?
Car il y en a plusieurs. Et une montée, c'est aussi une descente...
Sur ce je n'ai pas croisé ce gros cailloux.
Ca roule bien partout même si certains endroit se fond au pas. Après je parle pour une moto, pour voiture je ne sais pas.
Je pense que la liaison Midelt jusqu'au col est désormais une route inchallah, donc probablement goudronnée un jour.
Après je ne vais pas m'en plaindre.
Quand on habite ici, les pistes, ça va bien 5 minutes mais au bout d'un moment ça saoule.
Alors premièrement le rocher n'est plus la. Après sur le haut il y a encore quelque gros cailloux sur la piste mais rien de bien méchant. Vu l'hiver et le printemps pluvieux, ces nouveaux cailloux sont surement très récents.
Ensuite la piste de Midelt au cirque de Jaffar est maintenant plutôt une route non goudronnée.
Salut Kuhn,
je serais au Maroc à partir de la deuxième quinzaine de sept pour une boucle Tanger, Fès (par Ain-Aicha), Midelt (par la 503). J'envisage d'aller aux gorges d'Aouli (apparemment route sans problème) et le cirque de Jaffar.
Concernant Jaffar, la piste est "praticable pour tout ce qui roule" ?!?!? As tu + d'info ?
La piste paraît effectivement praticable... sur certaines photos, mais sur d'autres !?!?!?
A savoir que je serais sur une Harley Road glide (+ de 450kgs) avec une passagère.
J'ai l'habitude de rouler en bécane. Je rentre d'un trip de l'Alaska à la Patagonie avec la Dalton et un peu de la 40 sur la fin. Mais j'étais en solo sur Sportser modifié en trail rien à voir.
Qu'en penses tu ? Je ne souhaite pas me faire une galère (ni rien prouver à qui que ce soit), mais découvrir quelques endroits "encore accessible sans une foule de touristes"....
Ensuite Marrakech (chez des amis), peut être Agadir et retour par Casa, Rabat Tanger par les grands axes.
Je suis preneur d'infos.
Merci.
Tchani
Bonjour Rudhy.
Je n'arrive pas à voir la route 503 mais si j'ai bien compris, tu vas faire Tanger Fès par Tetouan, puis la N16 qui longe la méditérranée (superbe route et paysages), Kétama (champs de cannabis à perte de vue) Taounate, Fès.
C'est une très bonne première étape mais grosse journée à prévoir.
De Fès à Midelt le mieux est de passer par Ifrane, Azrou puis la N13 jusqu'à Midelt.
Il y a 2 / 3 bricoles à voir en chemin. La journée peux se terminer directement par les gorges de Aouli et les mines de plomb, très beau et sauvage à la tombée du jour.
Avec ta bécane, la piste de midelt à Jaffar est praticable mais une fois au col qui domine le cirque, je ne pense pas que la descente dans le cirque soit recommandable car la piste n'est plus du tout la même, surtout à la fin.
Compter 2 bonnes heures mini l'aller retour Midelt à Jaffar.
Ces deux sites sont peut visités. Aouli est surtout connu par les Marocains, Jaffar par les 4x4 et trails donc peu de monde.
Après par ou veux tu aller à Marrakech et en combien de temps ?
Bonsoir Tchani,
Je serai dans le coin (Midelt) mais en 4x4 le 26 septembre avec l'intention d'aller jusqu'à la fin du possible dans le cirque de Jaffar. La dernière fois il a fallu "jardiner" avant de renoncer.
Aouli pour les 4x4 a été un cul de sac. Retour sur Mibladen et Midelt.
Trop tard pour ton passage ?
Salut JP,
il m'est difficile de prévoir la date à laquelle je serais du côté de Midelt...
La saison d'été n'est pas encore terminé pour moi. Je pense être (au mieux) au Maroc (Tanger) vers le 15/20 sept. Ensuite, le parcours se fera au gré des rencontres en respectant certains endroits que je souhaite découvrir (dont Jaffar, les gorges de d'Aouli, Dades, Erfoud entre autres...). De toute façon, je serais limité par la moto (Harley) qui n'est pas prévu pour de la piste.
Merci de m'avoir répondu.
A+
Rudhy
Les gorges d'Aoulis sont très belles et peu touristique , dommage pour les habitants du coin , nous avons des amis a Mibladen , il y a aussi la piste Aouli / zeida mais en HD ca doit etre difficile .
Bonjour Jipé.
Cette piste Zeida Aouli m'interesse. Peux tu donner quelques infos ?
Est ce une piste qui passe par le lac ?
Je roule en gros trail, est elle roulante ou au contraire cassante ?
Et combien de temps environ pour faire la boucle ?
la piste passe au barrage , mais il ne te laisse pas forcement passer , j'au du continuer la piste jusque un peu plus haut que Zeida vers la fin de piste il y a des travaux pour faire ne route , de mémoire pas de grande difficulté , quelques endroit avec du sable mais c'est dur en dessus , de Mibladen a zeida deux heures en roulant tranquille .
Pour info ma katoche fait 230 kg avec le plein .
Bonjour Cleo.
Le cirque de Jaffar n'est pas très loin de Midelt.
Deux solutions :
- Par les gorges, on oublie de suite avec une routière. Moi même en gros trail et seul, j'ai fais demi-tour par précaution.
- Par la piste qui part du centre de Midelt. Faisable, c'est une piste très large et plutôt roulante jusqu'au col qui domine le cirque. Après la première partie de la descente est correcte mais la seconde devient à mon avis trop délicate en routière et surtout en duo. Ca passe largement en duo en trail mais pas en routière. PAr cette piste je dirai environ une heure pour aller au col.
Sinon il y a aussi d'autres possibilités à privilégier en roulant sur du bitume et dans des paysages tout aussi beau si on est en routière.
Déjà, indispensable, les gorges d'Aouli au départ de Midelt.
Si vous croisez du côté de Fès vous pouvez faire signe par MP.
Merci merci pour toutes ces précisions ! Pour Fez, pas prévu pour cette année. Mais bon, rien n'étant vraiment arrêté ni retenu, on verra où les roues nous emmèneront ! 😉
hi there! I’m heading to Vietnam with a biker friend for 3 months, starting from Hanoi... the plan is to do the northern loop, return to Hanoi, then head down to Ho Chi Minh City... and probably ride back up through the mountains. We’re leaving in February. Just a little detail—we’re two retirees, both 63, used to riding motorbikes, and we have French and international licenses... we’re looking for good tips and advice since we’re planning to buy 125cc Chinese bikes locally. Thanks to everyone, and happy trails—life is beautiful!
Hey everyone!
New to the forum, but not so new to Asia 😄
I’m Nico, from Switzerland, currently based in Bangkok. I love taking my motorcycle out to get lost in the mountains and small villages of Thailand, Laos, Vietnam, and more. I’ve been roaming around this area for a good fifteen years now, racking up quite a few kilometers—especially in northern Vietnam.
This time, I finally decided to tackle the Mae Hong Son Loop, clockwise. I’d been to Pai several times before, but oddly enough, I’d never done the full loop.
So, I’ll try to give you a little recap here, day by day, with the roads, stops, places worth checking out… and those that didn’t quite blow my mind 😅
I also filmed the trip, so I’ll post the corresponding video at the end of each day if that’s okay. If it’s not allowed here, just let me know, and I’ll remove them without any issue.
DAY 1 — Chiang Mai → Doi Inthanon → Mae Chaem → Khun Yuam
I left Chiang Mai after renting a Honda ADV 160 from Pop Motorbike. Not exactly an Africa Twin, but for what I had planned, it was more than enough.
Quick hotel note: I stayed at the Lanna Thaphae Hotel before leaving. Around 30 € per night, super well-located, and probably one of the most comfortable beds I’ve ever slept in. A crucial detail for any motorcycle road trip, obviously.
The plan for the day was pretty straightforward:
Head toward Doi Inthanon… and see what happens.
Flawless Swiss organization.
First stop along the way at Wachirathan Waterfall. A really nice waterfall, very easy to access, but don’t expect to channel your inner Indiana Jones—it’s crowded, touristy, and swimming isn’t allowed. Still, it’s a pretty stop along the way.
Next, up to Doi Inthanon.
The road climbs steeply, and my little 160cc started to realize that carrying my 80 kg to Thailand’s highest point probably wasn’t part of its youthful dreams. I was maxing out at 34 km/h in some spots.
But it made it. Good little bike.
The summit is nice—the forest is beautiful, and it’s cool—but I have to admit, it didn’t completely wow me. Glad I went, but not necessarily the highlight of the day for me.
Because then comes Route 1192.
And that’s *much* more my thing: small mountain roads, beautiful scenery, hardly any traffic… the kind of road where I usually start taking way too many unnecessary detours just because a little side road “looks fun.”
Stopped in Mae Chaem for a bite to eat, then headed to Khun Yuam to finish the day.
A little over 200 km in total.
Khun Yuam is… quiet.
*Very* quiet. 😅
A cute little market, a couple of cafés/restaurants, and zero chance of ending up in a club until 4 AM. But after a day on the bike, it was perfect.
Stayed at the Mit Khun Yuam Hotel, around 20 € for a small but very decent room.
All in all, a solid first day and a pretty relaxed start to the loop. Part of this leg is mostly about getting out of Chiang Mai and really diving into the mountains, in my opinion.
Because for me, the really interesting stuff starts over the next two days…
And a few slightly questionable route decisions will also make an appearance 😅
If anyone’s planning the Mae Hong Son Loop, feel free to ask your questions—I’d be happy to answer!
I also filmed this first day, so for those who’d rather see the roads and landscapes than read my rambling, here’s Day 1 😊
DAY 1 VIDEO
I’ll post the next part in the coming days with Day 2: Khun Yuam → Mae Surin → Mae Hong Son.
And that’s where it starts getting *really* fun. 😉
That’s all for now! Looking forward to contributing as much as I can to the forum!
I’d like to ride from Mahajanga to Morondava, sticking as close to the coast as possible—using roads and tracks—in September 2026. If you’ve got any suggestions, let me know! 😉
hi
I’m planning a 10-month trip to South America, and I’m looking into options for shipping a motorcycle to Buenos Aires by air or sea. If anyone has any info, thanks in advance!
christian
Hello everyone.
I'm looking for campsites around BOLZANO (South Tyrol) for early September.
I'll be on my motorcycle with a small tent.
I've noticed that some campsites have exorbitant prices.
If you've traveled through the Dolomites by motorcycle or otherwise and camped there, I'd love any tips on places and prices where I can stay for one night or several.
Thanks to all of you, and happy travels.
I’m starting to think about a trip that’s really close to my heart: Algeria by motorcycle, specifically the southern part of the country. It’d be for January 2025, and I’ve got two main questions:
Is it possible for an individual on a motorcycle to travel freely, outside of any organized tour, or does the regulation require some kind of supervision in the Algerian Sahara region?
Is the Hoggar massif accessible by road or by (rideable) tracks?
Beyond the official recommendations, I’m really looking for your firsthand experiences.
Thanks so much for your answers, and sorry if my questions are a bit newbie!
I just realized I’ve been registered on VoyageForum since... March 28, 2012 😊. Yet, I’ve barely participated until now.
August 1, 2026, will mark a somewhat special milestone: 5 years on the road.
We left Switzerland on August 1, 2021 with a simple idea: let chance decide our direction. We placed a bottle of wine on a world map, spun it... and it chose our first destination.
A year later, when we arrived in Morocco, we faced a new choice: continue toward Africa or head to Asia. This time, a tarot card game made the decision. Since then, we’ve tried to keep this journey as open to the unexpected as possible.
Today, that adds up to about 120,000 km, 46 countries, and over 1,800 days on the road—mostly by motorcycle, but also by sailboat, train, bus, hitchhiking, or on foot when adventure calls.
Our guiding thread isn’t just the motorcycle, but service exchanges. Instead of simply passing through countries, we try to stop regularly to lend a hand to the people we meet. So far, that’s about 600 days of volunteering.
Over the years, we’ve:
renovated a house in Croatia
made earth bricks in the Moroccan desert
helped sail a boat through the Greek islands
looked after houses, dogs, horses, a camel... and lots of other animals
worked at a street art festival in Morocco
created videos for local associations and projects
worked the grape harvest on the Tibetan plateau
been accredited as "media" for the World Nomad Games in Central Asia
Some of the moments that have stuck with us the most include six months in China, a night spent on the Great Wall, the Pamir Highway, the Silk Road, three months in Taiwan, and the incredible encounters in the mountains of Central Asia.
We travel on Falkor, our lucky dragon—a 2014 BMW F800GS that’s been with us since the start and is starting to have some great stories of its own.
While we share our adventure on Instagram, Polarsteps, and YouTube, that’s not why we’re here. The forum’s rules about promotion are clear, and I totally get them. If I’m finally taking the time to write, it’s mostly because after five years on the road, I thought our experience might be useful to other travelers.
Happy to chat about:
preparing for a long motorcycle trip
visas and borders
the Silk Road and Central Asia
riding in China (with or without a motorcycle)
volunteering and service exchanges while traveling
gear, daily life on the road... or just the unexpected moments that make long-term travel so special
Looking forward to swapping stories and hearing about your adventures too! 😊 Greetings from Thailand, and happy to chat! ✌️
Hello, I’m retired and planning a roughly 3-week motorcycle trip (1200gs). The dates aren’t set in stone yet, and everything’s open to discussion—I’m pretty flexible with the planning.
hi
planning to ride through Rajasthan on a motorcycle in January 2027 and I’d love to hear about the road conditions.
I’ll be riding with a buddy on a Royal Enfield that I’ll rent in Delhi.
Thanks for your tips!
hi there
I’d like to ride the RN 12 by motorcycle in September.
I’d love to know the main challenges—I ride a 300cc and do enduro in France.
Thanks for your tips!
I’m planning a motorcycle road trip to Armenia and Georgia in September 2026 or May 2027. I’m looking for one or more riders (male or female) who’d like to explore these countries with me.
Along the way, we’ll visit Cappadocia, the capitals Yerevan, Tbilisi, Sofia, Skopje, and other cities—we can finalize the route and roadbook later.
This trip requires experience with long motorcycle journeys, as we’ll cover around 7,000 km over 5 or 6 weeks (or more, depending on sightseeing and time spent).
I don’t expect dozens of applicants, since motorcycle riders are few and far between on this forum, but I’m putting this out there anyway.
Hi, I’d like to take a 15-day "break" to get away from the surrounding hustle and bustle.
Why not explore the Peloponnese!
I’m not particularly drawn to museums, ruins, or monuments.
I want to experience local life—small villages, seaside spots, beaches, and the interior if the landscapes are extraordinary.
Ideally, coming from Athens, I’d take a bus or train to get as close as possible to a starting point, then rent a scooter (125cc) to explore by taking secondary roads or even coastal paths. I’d stay in 2-3 places for a few days each to discover their surroundings.
Do a loop.
What do you think would be the ideal itinerary?
From Athens, the best option would be to take either a flight or a bus to Kalamata. Rent a scooter and head either west or east. Is there a tertiary road (very lightly trafficked) or a path where I can ride slowly, take it easy, and enjoy the scenery without being bothered by traffic? I’d like to go all the way to Monemvasia, still hugging the coast. I need to find a way to avoid returning to Kalamata to drop off the scooter and catch a flight—maybe a small town where the train stops so I can head back to Athens.
Thanks in advance for your tips.
I want to rent an off-road style motorcycle to get around the coast during my trip to Ecuador. I’m only finding options in Quito. Do you have any suggestions for me?
Hi there,
I’m planning a sidecar trip to South America for 4 or 5 months at the end of this year.
I’m looking for info on shipping my vehicle by sea—possibly to Uruguay or another destination, as I haven’t finalized anything yet.
How do you get visas for the countries I’ll be crossing: Uruguay, Argentina, Bolivia, Peru, and Chile? Are they e-Visas, obtained at the border, or through embassies?
Where can I get vehicle insurance?
Lastly, if any bikers want to join us (my partner and me), we’re open to that possibility too.
Patrick
I’ve got 15 days off in June and I’m pretty undecided about where to go for a motorcycle road trip. Two strong desires are pulling me in different directions: Corsica or Norway.
Corsica has been a dream of mine for a long time: legendary roads, stunning landscapes, a unique vibe, and the perfect mix of sea and mountains. At the same time, I’m wondering if 2 weeks might be *too much* for Corsica—risking feeling like I’ve seen it all too quickly, especially on a bike.
Since I also have an extra week free in May, I could use that specifically for Corsica. Maybe splitting it into two trips would make more sense? If so, which routes or regions would be the most interesting to plan for a 7-day trip?
On the other hand, Norway is *super* appealing. The landscapes look incredible, totally different from anything I’ve experienced, and it’d be a real “wow” trip. I know 15 days is still short for such a vast country. Getting all the way to the North Cape seems pretty much impossible in that time, but I’m curious about what realistic routes could be planned.
So I’m wondering:
Is it better to save Norway for next year, take 3 weeks off, and do it *properly*?
Or are 15 days enough for a first amazing taste of the country?
I’d love to hear about your experiences—whether it’s Corsica (ideal duration, routes) or Norway (what’s realistic in 2 weeks on a bike).
Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
Hello,
I'm thinking of buying a used small motorcycle to travel around the country for a month and a half.
I've done this in other countries without putting the registration in my name—is that possible in Guinea given the apparently frequent checks, or do I have to go through the paperwork?
Thanks.
Hello,
My dream is to ride Route 66 by motorcycle. I have a disability—while I’m not in a wheelchair, my walking mobility is reduced.
The ideal scenario would be to have a motorcycle driver and ride as their passenger on an organized trip.
Are there any guides or services like this offered by travel agencies?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Hello,
I’ve got a plan with a friend to go on a motorcycle road trip in 2028 or 2029, starting in Santiago de Chile and ending in Ushuaia, for about a month.
Has anyone done a trip like this before, and what’s the best time of year?
I’ve heard there can be quite a bit of wind depending on the season.
Thanks for any tips!
Cheers,
PA
I'm seriously considering heading to Nepal to do some nice motorcycle loops... my goal is also to do the Kailash Yatra round trip from Kathmandu, in a small group with a guide, in May '26... but here's the thing—I'm solo! So if you're up for sharing a similar adventure, hit me up... Cheers, Frankoys
It's all in the title: I'm heading to Krabi soon and want to rent a scooter for a few weeks, but after reading comments about all kinds of scams, I'm reaching out to ask where and how (read: *the right way*) to rent one.
Thanks for your tips and advice.
Hello everyone! Like every year, a winter migration is on the horizon (revised plan): this time, it’ll be Dakar, or even Abidjan, via Morocco, Mauritania, and Senegal.
Looking for an experienced motorcyclist or pillion rider—small build preferred—on a GSA 1250 with a comfy seat and luggage setup, available from early November to late December 2025. I’d like to plan the trip together (important to me) to make sure we’re on the same wavelength.
Don’t hesitate to get in touch!
Didier
Looking for travel companions to ride from France to Senegal by motorcycle.
I’m Paul, 37, and I’ve already done a bit of riding in Morocco.
For now, I’m solo, riding a 1998 SUZUKI DR 650 with some basic gear to keep things smooth. I’ll have a tent so we can do a few nights under the stars.
We’ll need to coordinate departure dates—"ideally in November."
I’m currently checking out routes to take. Any tips would be welcome! :)
I’m heading to Vietnam and Laos with a buddy next week for a month.
We’re thinking of renting motorbikes, especially to do the Ha Giang Loop. We don’t have an international license, just our Belgian one. Is that enough? If not, is it risky?
In November, we’re planning to do the Ha Giang loop and the RC4 by motorbike without a guide. 😎
We’re looking for a decent place to stay/rent in Ha Giang.
If anyone has any info, we’d be really interested.
Hello! We’re planning a motorcycle trip that will include a visit to Auschwitz-Birkenau in June 2026.
We’re unsure (still debating) whether we should stay at a hotel on-site and get to the memorial with an Uber (leaving our bikes at the hotel) and book a guided tour, or base ourselves in Kraków and take a tour that includes transport.
One thing’s for sure—we’d prefer a guide in French since we don’t speak English 😅.
Could you share your experiences or advice?
I understand we need to book online rather than on-site.
Thanks in advance for your replies!