Shipping a motorcycle to Buenos Aires by air or sea?
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hi I’m planning a 10-month trip to South America, and I’m looking into options for shipping a motorcycle to Buenos Aires by air or sea. If anyone has any info, thanks in advance! christian
PE Perdu666 Regular ·
So if you want to save money...

1 you ship it by boat 2 you don’t ship it to Buenos Aires...

You can check out the English forum Horizons Unlimited, which will be more up-to-date than my site, but basically, it’ll cost you less to ship it to Puerto Natales or Punta Arenas (free port) in Chile than to get it out of Buenos Aires...
a moto en Voxan en Argentine: http://enargentine.wordpress.com/ Location d'appartements meublés sur Buenos Aires http://www.bedinba.com
TH Th2nor Regular ·
Hi, my experience from late 2007: - shipping by boat (wooden crate treated in container) from Lyon, arrival in Buenos Aires, customs clearance fees, unpacking, port taxes... 2000 € all in! - return from Buenos Aires (boat) to Dieppe and Lyon... all in... roughly the same price. In both cases, I dropped my bike off at the packer’s and picked it up from him; everything else was handled by the various parties involved... and there are a lot of them... hence the prices... This vehicle shipping option only makes sense for a long stay. PS: Don’t forget the customs carnet (and a deposit of at least 2300 €) if you’re traveling through multiple countries (for bikes over 125cc). Good luck. Théo
PE Perdu666 Regular ·
For the crate, a simple way is to go to a dealership and ask them to keep a crate when they receive a motorcycle—it costs nothing except the gas to pick it up. (In total, it cost me something like $800.)

As for the customs carnet, personally, I’ve never been asked for it (the bike has been here since 2007, and I cross borders every 8 months), but so far, I’ve only been to Uruguay, Chile, and Argentina. For other countries, no idea...
a moto en Voxan en Argentine: http://enargentine.wordpress.com/ Location d'appartements meublés sur Buenos Aires http://www.bedinba.com
SI Silvi68 ·
hi we’re planning a trip to South America with our motorcycles for August–December 2012. Air freight is super convenient—quick and straightforward—but the price put us off. For one round-trip bike, it was around 6,000 € with a German freight forwarder. Now we’re getting quotes for sea freight, which takes about 20 days (±8 days), with a forwarder handling pickup near our home. It’s about 5,000 € round-trip for two bikes. Just FYI—when are you thinking of leaving?

silvi
PE Perdu666 Regular ·
Hi, Make sure to ask what fees you'll have to pay in Argentina... From what I understood, you're looking at around $1000 per motorcycle—maybe it's more interesting to ship it to Montevideo (3.5 hours by boat from Buenos Aires).
a moto en Voxan en Argentine: http://enargentine.wordpress.com/ Location d'appartements meublés sur Buenos Aires http://www.bedinba.com
SI Silvi68 ·
Hi

We're prepping for the trip and are deep in the jungle of customs formalities—your site’s advice has been a huge help, thanks for being so thorough! We managed to get 2 metal boxes for transporting the motorcycles from a dealer. Question: are the fees the same for air freight? The quote usually includes the fees, but I’ll double-check the breakdown of customs clearance costs. We’ll also have storage fees for the boxes until we return.

Actually, we’re leaving for 4 months, riding our 2 BMW 650 GSs across the Andes and Patagonia—Argentina, Bolivia, Peru, Chile, Tierra del Fuego, then back through eastern Argentina. Transport is a major issue we need to sort out.
PE Perdu666 Regular ·
I think in the case of air freight, the airport exit taxes are lower. At the port, they charge you for opening the container, removing the crate from the container, putting it in the depot, and taking it out of the depot (steps you wouldn’t have with air freight), BUT this is just an assumption.

If I remember correctly, the carrier I used was part of the GRIMANDI group. I’ll try to find the email from the company that gave me the paperwork here, since they’re probably the ones you’ll need to ask about the fees. I doubt the folks in France will know much about it.
a moto en Voxan en Argentine: http://enargentine.wordpress.com/ Location d'appartements meublés sur Buenos Aires http://www.bedinba.com
TH Th2nor Regular ·
Hi, if it helps: at the end of 2007 and for the return in January 2008 (250cc Ducati single-cylinder bike, in a 4m³ treated wooden crate), I used the services of the freight forwarder SDV (part of the Bolloré Group). They have an office in Lyon and also in Buenos Aires (downtown) (and in Lima too). The person in charge in BA was French. I was very satisfied with their services. They work with a "customs broker" ("despachante de aduanas") who was also very competent and friendly. Here are a few email addresses: In Lyon: py.jongit@sdv.com In BA: A.Vezins@sdvargentina.com.ar (Ms. De Vesins) The customs broker: Nestor Scuncia argvanlines@fibertel.com.ar

Good luck! ThéoApurimac
SI Silvi68 ·
Thanks for this info—I’ll get in touch with your freight forwarder. The fact that the person is French is helpful since my Spanish is just okay. Was your transport by air or sea? We’ve got metal pallets used by dealerships, so no need for treated wood. I’ve requested a quote from Bagages du Monde; the price is a bit high, but it seems like they handle everything. We’ll see. What was your route like? As for self-sufficiency, no major issues with the pumps? Any mechanical problems or flat tires? Someone suggested putting an anti-puncture product (Restom) in the tires—what do you think? Buenas noches.
PE Perdu666 Regular ·
Hey

In terms of range, it really depends on where you're going... In the south, you can easily have 200 to 300 km without passing through a town (Route 40 between El Chaltén and Río Mayo, for example), or even more if you cross the Andes near Fiambalá (560 km with nothing except customs, which has absolutely nothing to sell).

For flat tires, a puncture repair kit might be useful, but if I remember correctly, the 650GS comes with inner tubes, so it's not recommended because it can stick the inner tube to the tire. I took 2 spare inner tubes (front/rear) and had to remove the tire 3 or 4 times. It really depends on the roads you take.

When you get here, buy the big YPF guide with the maps—it’ll give you an idea of the distance between gas stations.

Also, ask your mechanic if there’s anything to do for high-altitude passes (4,000m and above), like taping an onion to the air intake of the injection system, as is done with carbureted cars.
a moto en Voxan en Argentine: http://enargentine.wordpress.com/ Location d'appartements meublés sur Buenos Aires http://www.bedinba.com
YA Yancoff ·
Hi there, I’m setting off on a 9-month motorcycle trip across South America starting October 2011. Here’s where I stand logistically: - I ruled out air shipping because it’s too expensive. - I decided to ship the bike to Montevideo—apparently it’s quieter than B.A., even if not necessarily cheaper. - I chose a freight forwarder, **Partnair Sea** in Toulouse, to handle the bike from Marseille. - I had a NIMP15-compliant crate made in Toulouse (380 €), then transported it disassembled to Marseille (photo), along with the bike on a trailer. - The shipping cost from Marseille to Montevideo is 700 €. - The bike is currently at sea on the **MSC Soraya** cargo ship and arrives on 10/12. - I’ll still have to pay the "unloading fees," which will be a surprise.

Hope this info helps! I’ll know a lot more in two weeks… to be continued…
PE Perdu666 Regular ·
Hi

If you could post the fees they charge when you pick up the motorcycle in Montevideo, that would be really helpful for me to see if I should ship my next bike via Uruguay instead of Buenos Aires.

PS: To bring the motorcycle from Montevideo to Buenos Aires, there’s the Buquebus company that transports people and vehicles (kind of like the ferries to Corsica).
a moto en Voxan en Argentine: http://enargentine.wordpress.com/ Location d'appartements meublés sur Buenos Aires http://www.bedinba.com
YA Yancoff ·
ok, no problem, I hope to know more around 10/15 😉 Yannick
YV Yvestt39 Regular ·
hi there

after prepping for a 6-month trip across South America, here’s some info I gathered from English-language sites: - no obligation for a carnet de passage at customs, though it does make border crossings smoother - however, Brazil requires one if you’re entering by any means other than overland - Brazilian ports seem pricey, so Buenos Aires is the better bet—get help or lodging from Dakar Moto if needed - overall, air freight prices (AF/KLM, where everything’s upfront) and sea freight (which always has surprises) tend to even out - it’s always useful and cost-effective to go directly to air freight companies, since motorcycle travel dreams "lend themselves to sharing" - no matter the bike, if it’s knocking, don’t hesitate to drain the fuel and refill with fresh—fuel mixes are a local specialty - several countries let you leave the vehicle behind, Uruguay in particular

safe travels and watch the road! Yves
chic, je me suis encore paumé
SI Silvi68 ·
Hi there, Thanks for the info. So far, I’ve got several quotes, all around 2300 € (for 2 motorcycles) including home pickup via Le Havre, unloading fees, and customs duties and taxes. We managed to get some crates from a dealer (Suzuki, for info), but since they’re not enclosed, it’s not ideal. We also have a quote for cardboard crates/pallets from

www.sofrapack.com, 300 € ex-VAT per bike. Two bikes add up fast :/ We’ll see...

For freight, I’m waiting on a quote from Germany—they offer round-trip service, an agent on-site to store the crates, and assistance with customs. Based on what we’ve read about the customs carnet, I think we’ll end up skipping it. The deposit for 2 bikes is pretty steep. Your 9-month trip sounds awesome! :cool: We’re leaving for 4 months, so by the time you’re back, we’ll be getting ready to go. For now, we’re just starting the prep: bikes, itinerary, paperwork, etc...

Keep us posted on the bike’s arrival at the port, the fees, any challenges...

In the meantime, *buen viaje*, buena suerte! !
YV Yvestt39 Regular ·
Uffe, Danish, on HU looking to share a container. A+
chic, je me suis encore paumé
YA Yancoff ·
Hi there,

Here’s an update—sorry it’s a bit late, but I hope it’s detailed enough.

My motorcycle arrived on 10/14. Right away, my shipper (ECULINE-Partnair Sea from Montevideo) asked for 400 USD in fees and various taxes.

On 10/17, they gave me the paperwork to go to customs. Customs just handed me a phone number and the address of a guy who handles ‘everything’ to get the bike out. This guy’s an independent agent, really nice, and he explained I’d have to pay 48 USD in taxes + 160 USD in storage fees (I only got the bike on 10/19, even though I’d been there for a week) + 450 USD in ‘country taxes’—aka his commission. I asked for an official receipt, and he said that’d add 20% in taxes. He made it clear I could choose another agent. Meanwhile, I met two Swiss guys with the same issues, and it was even pricier for them. This agent wasn’t cheap, but he was better than others. So, he took me to the port and handled all the steps to free the bike from the warehouse and its crate (which I left at the depot). Then, I had to pay a 500 USD ‘deposit’—the real port fees, with the matching invoice. After that, I was ‘free.’

About insurance: with a foreign license plate, Uruguayan companies only cover you within the country. So, I had to make a round trip to Buenos Aires to get insured for 6 months, covering Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, Brazil, Peru, and Bolivia for 200 USD with Mercantil Andina.

One last thing: you can’t just leave Uruguay on a whim with your bike. You have to tell the ‘agent’ in advance which border you’re crossing and when, so they can handle the paperwork with customs (it’s part of the fees, but it’s legit).

Hope this isn’t too confusing. It’s a bit complicated and expensive, but I think that’s the price to pay HERE to enjoy your bike. Maybe it’s easier elsewhere...
YA Yancoff ·
Hi, I don’t know if you were able to read the email I sent earlier, but here it is:

Here’s an update—sorry it’s a bit late, but I hope it’s detailed enough.

My motorcycle arrived on 10/14. My shipper (ECULINE-Partnair Sea from Montevideo) then asked me for $400 USD in fees and various taxes.

On 10/17, they gave me the paperwork to go to customs. Customs just gave me a phone number and the address of a person in charge of "taking care of everything" to get the motorcycle out. This guy is an independent agent, really nice, who explained I’d have to pay $48 USD in taxes + $160 in storage fees (I only got the motorcycle on 10/19, even though I’d been there for a week) + $450 in "country taxes," aka his commission. I asked for an official receipt, and he said that in that case, I’d have to add 20% in taxes. He made it clear I could choose another agent. Meanwhile, I met two Swiss guys who had the same issues—and even paid a bit more—and said this agent was actually cheap compared to others. So this agent took me to the port and handled all the paperwork so I could release the motorcycle from the warehouse and its crate (which I left at the depot). Then, I had to pay a $500 USD "deposit," which was actually the real port fees, with the corresponding invoice. After that, I was "free."

Regarding insurance, you should know that with a foreign license plate, Uruguayan companies only insure you for Uruguay. So I had to make a round trip to Buenos Aires to get insurance for 6 months covering Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, Brazil, Peru, and Bolivia for $200 USD with Mercantil Andina.

Finally, you can’t just leave Uruguay on a whim with your motorcycle. You have to tell the "agent" in advance which border you’re crossing and when so they can handle the administrative steps with customs (this is part of the fees, but it’s legit).

Anyway, I hope this isn’t too confusing. It’s a bit complicated and expensive, but I think that’s the price to pay HERE to enjoy your motorcycle. Maybe it’s easier elsewhere...
SI Silvi68 ·
Thanks for your valuable info. We’re following your journey closely to pick up tips, observations, and insights about your trip. Our departure is planned for August 2012, and we’ll definitely reach out for more advice. In the meantime, buen viaje and hasta luego!!
YA Yancoff ·
for info, here's my blog: http://www.yankibike.com/
FA Faustao Regular ·
Hi, I’m also looking to ship my bike to Buenos Aires by boat. The price of 5000 € round trip for 2 motorcycles is excellent. Could you share the transporter’s address with me? Thanks, and safe travels!
JMO
FA Faustao Regular ·
Hey, thanks for the info! I still need to understand what you meant by "several countries allow leaving the vehicle on site ??"

I’m Franco-Brazilian, and I need to ride my motorcycle back by road to avoid paying the absurd 100% import tax.

If you pass through Brazil, I live in Salvador de Bahia—my number is +55 71 9991 70 66. I’ll be there in December if my bike arrives!!!
JMO
SI Silvi68 ·
Hi there,

Actually, we have two offers for a one-way trip via Buenos Aires: Bagages du Monde 95700 Roissy-en-France Tel. 01.34.38.58.90 Departure from Mulhouse Airport PORT/PORT - sea freight: 2127 € (excluding unloading fees and customs duties/taxes at destination) - air freight: 4500 €

STAMEX INTERNATIONAL – Le Havre – 300 Bvd Jules Durand 76 600 Le Havre Tel +33 2 35 11 72 70 www.stamex.fr Departure from Mulhouse Airport via Buenos Aires sea freight: 2500 € (excluding unloading fees and customs duties/taxes at destination)

Prices will change since we’re only leaving in August 2012.

Safe travels!
SI Silvi68 ·
😉 Hey there!! Happy New Year 2012!

Still on the road? Hope your trip’s going well. We’re in full prep mode—motorcycles, gear, transport... Departure date: August 9, 2012.

Safe travels, and take care.
CA Calonzzz ·
Hi Silvi,

We’re currently riding through Argentina on the Africa Twin we shipped by boat last month. From Le Havre to Buenos Aires, the transport took 3 weeks. We used the Argentine company Blue Star Cargo, and everything went perfectly—they were super professional, and we didn’t have any bad surprises.

If you’re interested, I invite you to check out our blog. We explain in detail how we shipped our motorcycle by boat from France to Argentina. http://worldtripcenter.com/transport-moto-buenos-aires-argentine/

If you need more info, don’t hesitate! Happy preparations!

Chloé
SI Silvi68 ·
Hi Chloé, and thanks for the info. We're still in the prep phase—kickoff is on August 9th. Can't wait to cast off! The sea freight paperwork is moving along; turns out "Bagages du Monde" works with "Blue Star Cargo," and we're relieved they've been super professional. Could you tell us how much the import tax is for a motorcycle? Did you get a customs carnet? Also, could you share the name of your insurance company for third-party liability and the approximate cost of motorcycle insurance? We're following your trip on the blog with interest. How long is your journey? 😏 Buen viaje! silvi
CA Calonzzz ·
Hi Silvi,

We’ve been on the road for about 2 months now, covering nearly 6,000 km from Buenos Aires to Mendoza, crossing the country from east to west around Trelew. My take: The Atlantic coast isn’t all that interesting for a motorcycle trip—endless straight lines, Route 3 stretching forever through the pampa, and huge distances between points of interest (Buenos Aires, Península Valdés, Ushuaia). We only really started enjoying the ride from Esquel (pre-Andes) onward. That said, this is just my personal opinion...

To answer your questions:

1) The import tax depends on the purchase value of the vehicle. In our case, it was 350 € for a ’97 Africa Twin. But don’t rely on that alone—quotes can hold plenty of surprises! Make sure you confirm the amount before arriving.

2) You don’t need a *carnet de passage* for Latin America, but the in-country formalities require patience—*a lot* of patience—and usually need help from a local agent. If you go through Blue Cargo, I don’t think you’ll run into any bad surprises.

3) For insurance, you can find third-party liability coverage with "Allianz" for around $45/month.

Happy to share more info if you need it,

P.S.: We discovered a magical spot in Mendoza province yesterday—check it out on our Argentina travel blog: http://worldtripcenter.com/...oto-argentine-andes/
PE Perdu666 Regular ·
Laguna Diamante... if you're already heading back, there was also Laguna del Maule on the other side of the Pehuenche Pass (after Malargüe) that's worth it
a moto en Voxan en Argentine: http://enargentine.wordpress.com/ Location d'appartements meublés sur Buenos Aires http://www.bedinba.com
LA Laroche1948 ·
Hi Chloé, and thanks for the info. Still in the planning stages—kickoff is August 9th. We can’t wait to cast off. The sea freight paperwork is moving along; turns out "Bagages du Monde" works with "Blue Star Cargo," and we’re relieved they’ve been super professional. Could you tell us how much the import tax is for a motorcycle? Did you get a customs carnet? Also, could you share the name of your insurance company for third-party liability and the approximate cost of motorcycle insurance? We’re following your trip on the blog with interest. How long is your journey? 😏 Buen viaje! silvi

Hi there, Hope your trip is going well! I was the one who originally asked about Buenos Aires, but we ended up leaving from Montreal and, after 9 months, arrived in Montevideo. Could you share details about shipping your motorcycle to Buenos Aires for friends who want to join us? Safe travels, and thanks in advance! Christian
PA Patrickmoto ·
So if you want to save money...

1 you ship it by boat 2 you don’t ship it to Buenos Aires...

You can check out the English forum Horizons Unlimited, which will be more up-to-date than my site, but basically it’ll cost you less to ship it to Puerto Natales or Punta Arenas (free port) in Chile than to get it out of Buenos Aires...
Patrickmoto
SH Shiniuku ·
Bonjour Laurent, je vais effectuer un voyage en AMSUD et je voudrais laisser la moto sur place en Argentine ( sans même chercher à la vendre) est-ce que tu pense que je vais pouvoir passé la douane à l'aéroport sans avoir de problèmes ? Tu as toi même laisser ta moto sur place ?
Dom.

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