Trajet entre le Caire et Ste Catherine
by Lauret
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Bonjour,
je suis de retour en Egypte pour la 4eme depuis 1 an et j'aimerais partir du côté du Sinai cette fois ci, pour visiter notamment ste catherine
Y a t il des personnes qui pourront medonner desinfos, je partiraisdu Caire, mon séjour dure du 7 au 13 novembre
Merci de vos réponses
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Laure
Bonjour
pour te rendre à St Catherine à partir du Caire c'est relativement facile; taxi collectif, assez folklo si on aime 😛 et surtout du temps devant soit avion, jusqu'à Sharm el-Sheikh, Air Sinaï si ils existent encore (?) sinon EgypAir bus, de loin le moins cher, 1 liaison/jour
points à prendre en considération se renseigner auparavant qu'il n'y a pas de fêtes religieuses qui restreignent les visites être de bonne heure le matin pour visiter le monastère et ses annexes, c'est fermé l'après midi prévoir d'y passer la nuit, si possible, enfin une partie, et faire l'ascension du mont St Catherine (Jebel Moussa) pour profiter d'un lever de soleil sur le Sinaï, SOMPTUEUX, .... prendre un duvet, car en décembre/janvier, il doit presque geler, et la cabane du "bédu" en haut n'est pas grande 😛 bien "potasser" son sujet avant d'y aller, tant il y a de choses à voir avec des références à ; l'Empereur Justinien, au Prophète Mohamed, à Napoléon Bonaparte, aux Tsars de la Sainte Russie, le Buisson, les portes (massives) en cèdre, les icônes, les incunables, etc, etc. ne pas oublier que ce monastère dont les origines remontent à l'époque pré-musulmane, n'a JAMAIS été détruit, ni pillé, on peu facilement imaginer les trésors qu'il renferme bonne visite 😉
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Dom
points à prendre en considération se renseigner auparavant qu'il n'y a pas de fêtes religieuses qui restreignent les visites être de bonne heure le matin pour visiter le monastère et ses annexes, c'est fermé l'après midi prévoir d'y passer la nuit, si possible, enfin une partie, et faire l'ascension du mont St Catherine (Jebel Moussa) pour profiter d'un lever de soleil sur le Sinaï, SOMPTUEUX, .... prendre un duvet, car en décembre/janvier, il doit presque geler, et la cabane du "bédu" en haut n'est pas grande 😛 bien "potasser" son sujet avant d'y aller, tant il y a de choses à voir avec des références à ; l'Empereur Justinien, au Prophète Mohamed, à Napoléon Bonaparte, aux Tsars de la Sainte Russie, le Buisson, les portes (massives) en cèdre, les icônes, les incunables, etc, etc. ne pas oublier que ce monastère dont les origines remontent à l'époque pré-musulmane, n'a JAMAIS été détruit, ni pillé, on peu facilement imaginer les trésors qu'il renferme bonne visite 😉
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Dom
Bonjour!
Lors de mon séjour à Hurghada ( jan. 2005 ), nous devions visiter le monastère mais la visite a été annulée car il y avait des bombardements à 30 km du lieu....donc je crois qu'il serait sage de prendre des renseignements quotidiennement! 😉
Au bout du monde !!!!
le monastère mais la visite a été annulée car il y avait des bombardements à 30 km du lieu
on se calme 😉😛😉
on prend une carte et on voit que le monastère est ; dans un massif montagneux au Sud-Est du Sinaï, tout proche du Golfe de Suez à plus de 400 km de la bande de Gaza, où parfois c'est un peu chaud
(politiquement parlant) à plus de 200 km de Taba (à coté de Éilat - Jordanie), où il fait chaud, mais l'été 😛 (météorologiquement parlant)
ne pas confondre entre la tragédie qui s'est produite à Sharm en 2005; hotels plastiqués, et des "bombardements", ce qui induirait des actions militaires d'artillerie, ou d'aviation et sera bon de rappeler que depuis 1973 AUCUN conflit armé n'a été enrigistré entre l'Égypte et ses voisins 😛 merci de ne pas dramatiser inutilement, cette partie du Moyen-Orien aspire à la quiétude, et sa population au retour des touristes qui les font vivre mais on ne pas nier, que rarement, mais parfois des fondamentalistes n'arrangent pas la situation JAMAIS le monastère n'a été en cible de ces fondamentalistes, en 2005, je m'y suis rendu pour la énième fois ... j'ai même eu la surprise (heureuse) de trouver un couple de Saoudiens (l'homme était habillé traditionnel, c'est pour cela que je peux être formel) accompagné de son épouse (foulard, mais pas "bâchée" 😉) normal qu'ils avaient de l'intérêt pour ce site, à cause de Moïse, qui est considéré comme un Prophète majeur en Islam, et l'histoire du monastère est lié au "Jebbel Moussa" qui veut dire en arabe, la "montagne de Moïse ", lieu où Moïse aurait reçu les "Tables de la Loi", qui est juste derrière le monastère
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on se calme 😉😛😉
on prend une carte et on voit que le monastère est ; dans un massif montagneux au Sud-Est du Sinaï, tout proche du Golfe de Suez à plus de 400 km de la bande de Gaza, où parfois c'est un peu chaud
(politiquement parlant) à plus de 200 km de Taba (à coté de Éilat - Jordanie), où il fait chaud, mais l'été 😛 (météorologiquement parlant)ne pas confondre entre la tragédie qui s'est produite à Sharm en 2005; hotels plastiqués, et des "bombardements", ce qui induirait des actions militaires d'artillerie, ou d'aviation et sera bon de rappeler que depuis 1973 AUCUN conflit armé n'a été enrigistré entre l'Égypte et ses voisins 😛 merci de ne pas dramatiser inutilement, cette partie du Moyen-Orien aspire à la quiétude, et sa population au retour des touristes qui les font vivre mais on ne pas nier, que rarement, mais parfois des fondamentalistes n'arrangent pas la situation JAMAIS le monastère n'a été en cible de ces fondamentalistes, en 2005, je m'y suis rendu pour la énième fois ... j'ai même eu la surprise (heureuse) de trouver un couple de Saoudiens (l'homme était habillé traditionnel, c'est pour cela que je peux être formel) accompagné de son épouse (foulard, mais pas "bâchée" 😉) normal qu'ils avaient de l'intérêt pour ce site, à cause de Moïse, qui est considéré comme un Prophète majeur en Islam, et l'histoire du monastère est lié au "Jebbel Moussa" qui veut dire en arabe, la "montagne de Moïse ", lieu où Moïse aurait reçu les "Tables de la Loi", qui est juste derrière le monastère
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Attention Domayeux...je n'ai pas dit que les bombardements visaient le monastère même!!!! ni qu'il sagissait de conflits entre l'Égype et ses voisins! mais qu'il y avait des bombardements à 30 km du lieu et c'est notre guide qui nous a affirmé ceci.Peut-être voulait-il dire à 30 km pendant le trajet? Les bombardements à sharm n'étaient pas au mois de janvier, mais plus tard. Il faut aussi se souvenir des attentats en plein souk du Caire cette année-là!
J'ai toujours l'intention de me rendre au Mont Sinaï (un jour) et loin de là l'idée de semer la peur, juste prévenir un peu 😉
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Au bout du monde !!!!
Bonsoir,
Désolée pour le retard dans la réponse merci pour lesinfos mais je reviens finalement du sinai, entière😉😛 pas de problèmes, alors laissez moi rire quand j'entends des personnes qu'il ne veulent pas aller dans cette région alors qu'il y a des problèmes à quelques km de là, je pense qu'il faut y aller pour s'enrendre compte, moi je vous conseille d'aller voir un coucher de soleil sur les dunes du sinai et d'un lever de soleil sur el jebel moussa splendide.le monastere renferme une église sponteuse avec dfférents styles. C'est dommage de ne pasfaire cette visite sous prétexte que tout le monde est parano et craint à des attaques terro mais on n'est pas àl'abri en europe 😏(trajet certes un peu long en bus mais le paysage n'est pas monotone) .
Je vousconseille à tous de vous y rendre, ça vaut le détour
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Laure
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We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
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3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help




