El Kelaa Des Sgharna au Maroc
by Gaaz
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
je cherche quelqu'un qui connait la ville d'EL KELAA DES SGHARNA au maroc et qui peut m'en parler un peu.
Surtout quelqu'un qui y a vecu
MERCI
alors je sais pas si tu as bien orthographié le nom de la ville parce qu'à ma connaissance il y a la ville de el kelaa m'gouna au sud de ouarzazate qui est entourée par la vallée des roses et du dadès;mais celle dont tu parles ne me dis rien.
titrite
J'y ais de la famille.
J'y ais pas vecu.
J'y sejourne chaque année deux villages plus loin.
J'y passe regulierement pendant mes conges
Que veux tu savoir exactement ? car ta qestion est vague
amicalement
Que veux tu savoir exactement ? car ta qestion est vague
amicalement
La vie c'est comme une boite de chocolat, on ne sait jamais sur quoi on va tomber
salut!
j'ai mes parents qui habite el kelaa des sraghna, j'ai habité avec eux 5ans labas maintenant j vis a marrakech!
je sais pas ce que voulez savoir exactement(comment c la ville? les habitant?)
Pour les info je sais pas.
Un hotel il en existe un a l'entrée de la ville (il parait bien * **) il me semble qu il possede piscine.
Pour vous rendre a Marrakech il doit y avoir un car regulierement voir de grands taxi qui font le trajet des qu ils sont complets et regulierement.
Pour tous ces renseignement il vaut mieux voir sur place.
El Kelaa est une petite ville qui possede une province, un tribunal d'instance, etc....
Je penses que comme en France a partir d'une certaines heures tout est fermé.(a l'inverse de Marrakech)
Je te conseille d'aller visiter pendant ton sejour si tu en as l'occasion:
OUZOUD et ses cascades (rte de Beni Mellal) IM'ini'fri et sa grotte naturelle( apres Damnate) Damnate est ses poteries (qques petits artisans) (tu auras quand meme plus de choix a Marrakech)
PS la "gare" des Taxis se trouve il me semble juste a coté de cet Hotel Il existe egalement a l'entrée de la ville deux "stations essences" qui proposent de se restaurer a l'ombre de paillote dans un petit jardin de verdure ou en interieur PS2 : l'hiver je ne connais pas trop comment cela se passe
Un hotel il en existe un a l'entrée de la ville (il parait bien * **) il me semble qu il possede piscine.
Pour vous rendre a Marrakech il doit y avoir un car regulierement voir de grands taxi qui font le trajet des qu ils sont complets et regulierement.
Pour tous ces renseignement il vaut mieux voir sur place.
El Kelaa est une petite ville qui possede une province, un tribunal d'instance, etc....
Je penses que comme en France a partir d'une certaines heures tout est fermé.(a l'inverse de Marrakech)
Je te conseille d'aller visiter pendant ton sejour si tu en as l'occasion:
OUZOUD et ses cascades (rte de Beni Mellal) IM'ini'fri et sa grotte naturelle( apres Damnate) Damnate est ses poteries (qques petits artisans) (tu auras quand meme plus de choix a Marrakech)
PS la "gare" des Taxis se trouve il me semble juste a coté de cet Hotel Il existe egalement a l'entrée de la ville deux "stations essences" qui proposent de se restaurer a l'ombre de paillote dans un petit jardin de verdure ou en interieur PS2 : l'hiver je ne connais pas trop comment cela se passe
La vie c'est comme une boite de chocolat, on ne sait jamais sur quoi on va tomber
j te propose de voir ce site www.alkelaa.com pr info chui 1 de l'équipe de travail sur ce site on a crée ce site pr ceux ki ne savent r1 de cette ville amuse toi b1 sur notre site www.alkelaa.com é voici mon adresse email dragon_anas007@hotmail.com si tu veut mcontacté
je suis né au kelaa des sgharna c est une tres ptite ville environ 80 km au nord du marrakech mais qu etes vous d abord
life is travel
Bonjour,
je suis d'orgine de KALAAT SRAGHNA, on a des terres la ba et on aimerais y faire des projets, je vous donne plus d informations si vous me contacter
Alors par où commencer ??!!! El kelaa des sraghnas🤪 Rien que le nom, il fait fuir déja 😄! en qqs mots! Petit bled perdu ; poussiere exccessive; 3robya en abondance 😏 et tout le monde te mate meme si ça fait 4 mois que tu passe quotidiennement devant eux 🤪
ahhh !! et j allais oublier 😏les pompes à essence 😏derniers cafés branchés made in Kelaa des sraghnas 😄! donc evitez d aller labas surtout si vous n avez que qqs jours de congés😏 vacances gachées assurées 😄😄😄😄
ahhh !! et j allais oublier 😏les pompes à essence 😏derniers cafés branchés made in Kelaa des sraghnas 😄! donc evitez d aller labas surtout si vous n avez que qqs jours de congés😏 vacances gachées assurées 😄😄😄😄
C'est justement parce que je connais (bien !) que je me permet de te dire que ta réponse est, elle, hors sujet ! et impolie!
On est sur un forum pour adultes, ici, la cour de récré c'est sur un autre forum. tu en as plein d'autres pour te défouler.
El Kelaa n'est peut etre pas une ville follichonne, ou on n'y fait peut etre pas la fete tous les soirs, mais il y a peut etre des gens qui aiment une vie plus calme et saine, dans une bourgade tranquille, ou les alentours sont pleins de possibilités, visites, promenades, vtt, pèche, chasse, et Marrakech en moins d'une heure.
On est sur un forum pour adultes, ici, la cour de récré c'est sur un autre forum. tu en as plein d'autres pour te défouler.
El Kelaa n'est peut etre pas une ville follichonne, ou on n'y fait peut etre pas la fete tous les soirs, mais il y a peut etre des gens qui aiment une vie plus calme et saine, dans une bourgade tranquille, ou les alentours sont pleins de possibilités, visites, promenades, vtt, pèche, chasse, et Marrakech en moins d'une heure.
bonsoir
je serait toi sans hesiter j'ecouterai les conseils de raoulx.
bon sejour au maroc
chrystel
CHRYSTEL
vous devriez peut etre arreter de parler de cette façon c'est pas forcement agreable de vous lire
merci
CHRYSTEL
bonjour, je suis a la recherche d'un de mes ancetre Francais qui est decedé dans le village d'El kelaa des Srahna.Peut tu me donner un renseignement? je recherche le numero de telephone de la mairie de ce village.
a ville de kalaa d sraghna setrouve entre la ville de benimellal et marrakech. a 100km de marakech vers le nord este.une petit ville connait par l'agriculture ..connait par la richesse de ces produits notament les olives.......
pour plus d'info ecrivez moi sur MP
bonjour, moi je suis belge, et me suis marie avec mon amie fatiha qui provient d e elkelaa, petite ville tres bien, il y a d e touts, banque, marche, ...... j y vais touts les mois, j aime mieux que marrakech, plus calme, et maintenant j y suis connu vu que marie avec une fille de cette petite ville, les marocains sont charment
avec moi, les autoritees bien et sympa, j aime beaucoup, maintenant cartain vous dirons que ces des salles
arabes, ce sont d es cons, il ont peur, qu il y aille il veront par eux meme qu il sont a ccueillant et sympatique,
arreter les cliches !!!! chez nous aussi en europe il y a d es cons et d es fameux !!
el kella 10/10 chouette, il y a l hotel elkella du meme nom que la ville, il est super, et prix tres raisonnable, le personnel et le patron tres sympa, de plus plusieurs station a la sortie d e la ville, cafe, resto, tres chouette
ca fait un moment que je vais au maroc, et suis un homme comble avec mon epouse marocaine !!!
j aime fatiha, ma cherie!!! allez au maroc pays genial !!!
el kella 10/10 chouette, il y a l hotel elkella du meme nom que la ville, il est super, et prix tres raisonnable, le personnel et le patron tres sympa, de plus plusieurs station a la sortie d e la ville, cafe, resto, tres chouette
ca fait un moment que je vais au maroc, et suis un homme comble avec mon epouse marocaine !!!
j aime fatiha, ma cherie!!! allez au maroc pays genial !!!
"3robya en abondance 😏"
Je préfère ça à un MRE comme toi. Toi qui prétends être civilisé, avec tes propos à la con, tu vaux moins que le plus imbéciles des 3robi. (Et puis je suis sûr qu'en remontant l'arbre généalogique de ta famille-en supposant que tu saches ce que c'est- que tu vas vite faire d'y trouver un 3robi tout comme la majorité des Marocains)
Comme son message date de 2008, je ne suis pas sûre que ta réponse soir lue :)
Ce qui est marrant, d'ailleurs, c'est que la demande initiale date de 2006, ce topic a la vie dure !
Ce qui est marrant, d'ailleurs, c'est que la demande initiale date de 2006, ce topic a la vie dure !
Des infos pour vivre et travailler au Maroc : http://o-maroc.com
et par la simpacité et l'hospitalité illimité🤪de sé habitants d'origine et merci_ ts lmonde ici_ et b1venu et a+
c'tré curieu: prsk tjr se st lé célibataires qui vous donnent des conseils pour élever des enfants.
Paul Claudel
Paul Claudel
Bonjour,
J'ai bien pris le temps de lire tous les messages depuis 2006 🙂 (c'est très marrants )... Je suis à paris, et je cherche depuis pas trop longtemps mes origines, mon pére est de Kelaat Segharna, je serais ravie de connaitre plus sur cette ville, et surtout les origines des origines (les Serghinis sont-ils des Amazigh ou arabe ou bien juif🤪 ), est ce que peut dire que l'origine de Kelaat Seraghna est Marrakech ou le contraire.... dites moi plus SVP rezzouk.rachid@gmail.com
J'ai bien pris le temps de lire tous les messages depuis 2006 🙂 (c'est très marrants )... Je suis à paris, et je cherche depuis pas trop longtemps mes origines, mon pére est de Kelaat Segharna, je serais ravie de connaitre plus sur cette ville, et surtout les origines des origines (les Serghinis sont-ils des Amazigh ou arabe ou bien juif🤪 ), est ce que peut dire que l'origine de Kelaat Seraghna est Marrakech ou le contraire.... dites moi plus SVP rezzouk.rachid@gmail.com
A la recherche de nos origines ...
salut😉 je suis originaire de kelaa de sraghna j y ai été concu mais vit en france depuis mon tres jeune age j y vais au moins 4 fois par ans mes grnd parent etais las bas allah y rahmouh c super c enrichissant c une ville atachante je laime ya une conne qui disait el robya mais c grave si tu veux bouger ton cul en boite vas a marrackech vien pas faire la star a kelaa c des gens trankile il se prennent pas la téte cete ville a un ebelle histoire
Ce qui est marrant, d'ailleurs, c'est que la demande initiale date de 2006, ce topic a la vie dure
Bonjour,
Tu ne croyais pas si bien dire : ce topic ressort encore aujourd'hui ...😉
Bonjour,
Tu ne croyais pas si bien dire : ce topic ressort encore aujourd'hui ...😉
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A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Hi,
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Does anyone know the address of a rose flower distillery in the Valley of Roses / Kelaa M'Gouna? A traditional distillery, not just the tourist shop.
Thanks a bunch!
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!

