Étape à Yosemite ou pas
by Adeuxcmieux
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous,
Je prépare un road trip dans l'Ouest Américain fin avril début mai 2019.
Au départ de San Francisco, je pensais faire une étape à Yosemite avec une journée de ballade le lendemain puis redescende vers Bakersfield
Jour 1 à 3 San Francisco
Jour 4 route vers Yosemite
Jour 5 Yosemite
Jour 6 route vers Bakersfield
Jour 7 Route vers Vegas via Death Valley.
Mon pb est qu'à la saison où nous partons (tioga road fermée) c'est peut être un grand détour sachant que nous ne partons que 21 jours et qu'ensuite j'ai d'autres choses de prévu dans notre planning.
Pensez vous que je devrais faire l'impasse sur Yosemite ou pas ?
La suite donnerait
Jour 8 Vegas
Jour 9 route vers Zion
Jour 10 route vers Bryce
Jour 11 Bryce
Jour 12 Route vers Page
Jour 13 Page : antelope les 2 et lake Lowell
Jour 14 Route vers Monument Valley
Jour 15 Route vers grand Cayon
Jour 16 et 17 route vers LA et là je ne sais pas où est il le mieux de prévoir une étape laughin/Kingsman ?
Jour 18 et 19 LA
Il me reste une journée possible que je peux "caser" si un endroit vous semble interessant. Sinon nous remonterions vers SF via la côté avec une nuit d'étape.
Je me suis comme d'autres, inspirer d'un circuit TO et j'hesite vraiment à me lancer seule. J'ai vu que cela s'organisait très bien seule. J'ai un gros doute en cas de pépin, impondérables...
Merci de me dire SVP
Bon dimanche à tous
Bonjour
Alors nous Yosemite on ne l'avait pas prévu au programme, on a voulu faire le crochet et finalement, on regrette de ne pas y être resté plus longtemps !!! Gros coup de cœur, par contre j'ai moins accroché sur Zion, mais tout ça c'est personnel !
Pourquoi retournez vous sur SF ? Vous avez déjà vos billets d'avion ?
L'avantage est que vous partez hors grosse saison touristique, du coup, vous pouvez vous épargner les réservations d'hébergement et voir au fur et à mesure de votre avancement, quitte à zapper une destination pour ne pas trop courir.
Nathalie
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Bonjour Nathalie
Merci de votre réponse.
Concernant Yosemite, je me suis pas mal documenté ce WE et finalement nous y passerons bien. Nous y prévoyons une journée.
Quand à Zion je doutais également. Les ballades les pieds dans l'eau me semblent sympa. Pourtant je vais également creusé parce qu' à cette saison à pied cela risque de se transformer en baignade en eaux vives.
Pour le vol je ne l'ai pas réservé mais en arrivant et partant de SF les allers retours permettent des vols parfois plus intéressants ou plus rapides.
Quand aux résa avant c'est mon coté baroudeur trouillarde. La peur de ne pas avoir de résa la veille pour le lendemain. Ou devoir se "prendre la tete" avec ça quand on y sera au lieu de profiter du coin.
😉
Hello Karine,
Jour 6 route vers Bakersfield Jour 7 Route vers Vegas via Death Valley.
Je vous déconseille de faire Bakersfield > Death Valley > Las Vegas. Vous devrez rouler à peu près 600 kilomètres et n'aurez guère le temps de visiter la Death Valley. En plus, vous ne profiterez pas du coucher et lever du soleil dans la Death Valley. Il serait plus intéressant de dormir à l'intérieur du parc.
Je me suis comme d'autres, inspirer d'un circuit TO et j'hesite vraiment à me lancer seule. J'ai vu que cela s'organisait très bien seule. J'ai un gros doute en cas de pépin, impondérables...
Dans le message, vous dites "nous", vous êtes donc au moins deux.
En cas de pépin, d'impondérables, le fait que vous ayez organisé votre circuit seule, ou pas, ne changera pas grand chose, votre interlocuteur sera en France et vous aurez 9 heures de décalage horaire quand vous serez en Californie.
En préparant votre road trip vous-même, vous pouvez réserver des hôtels annulables sans frais jusqu'à 24 h avant la date de la nuitée prévue.
Quant à Zion je doutais également. Les ballades les pieds dans l'eau me semblent sympa. Pourtant je vais également creusé parce qu' à cette saison à pied cela risque de se transformer en baignade en eaux vives.
Au printemps, la "Virgin River" sera froide, et le niveau de l'eau risque d'être assez haut à cause de la fonte des neiges.
A+
Christine
Jour 6 route vers Bakersfield Jour 7 Route vers Vegas via Death Valley.
Je vous déconseille de faire Bakersfield > Death Valley > Las Vegas. Vous devrez rouler à peu près 600 kilomètres et n'aurez guère le temps de visiter la Death Valley. En plus, vous ne profiterez pas du coucher et lever du soleil dans la Death Valley. Il serait plus intéressant de dormir à l'intérieur du parc.
Je me suis comme d'autres, inspirer d'un circuit TO et j'hesite vraiment à me lancer seule. J'ai vu que cela s'organisait très bien seule. J'ai un gros doute en cas de pépin, impondérables...
Dans le message, vous dites "nous", vous êtes donc au moins deux.
En cas de pépin, d'impondérables, le fait que vous ayez organisé votre circuit seule, ou pas, ne changera pas grand chose, votre interlocuteur sera en France et vous aurez 9 heures de décalage horaire quand vous serez en Californie.
En préparant votre road trip vous-même, vous pouvez réserver des hôtels annulables sans frais jusqu'à 24 h avant la date de la nuitée prévue.
Quant à Zion je doutais également. Les ballades les pieds dans l'eau me semblent sympa. Pourtant je vais également creusé parce qu' à cette saison à pied cela risque de se transformer en baignade en eaux vives.
Au printemps, la "Virgin River" sera froide, et le niveau de l'eau risque d'être assez haut à cause de la fonte des neiges.
A+
Christine
Hiacinthe
Bonjour Hiacinthe (Christine)
Merci de ta réponse. Elle m'eclaire sur deux points :
Le 1er nous ferons Vegas Death valley avec une étape à death valley comme tu le suggères. Nous "tracerons" par contre après death valley directement sur Yosemite. Pas d'étape donc à Bakersfield.
Le second et je m'en doutais un peu c'est Zion à cette saison le niveau de l'eau risque d'être haut.
A voir donc...
Bonne journée à vous.
Bonjour Karine,
Nous "tracerons" par contre après death valley directement sur Yosemite. Pas d'étape donc à Bakersfield.
Je ne comprends pas. Dans le sens de ton itinéraire, c'est Death Valley qui sera après Yosemite NP.
Attention, ce trajet sera long !
Regarde les logements de Death Valley NP : www.nps.gov/...ourvisit/lodging.htm
Si tu dors, par exemple, au "Stovepipe Wells Village", en faisant une simulation avec google maps en prenant un départ à 9 h de Yosemite Valley fin avril (ne connaissant pas la date exacte, j'ai mis le 25 avril), cela fait 7 à 8 heures de conduite.
Ce jour-là, le soleil se couchera à 19 h 29 dans la Death Valley. Il faudrait partir très tôt de Yosemite Valley. Quand j'ai fait ma simulation, j'ai supposé que vous partiriez à 9 h. Mais, dans ce cas de figure, vous arriveriez vers 19 h (8 h de conduite + arrêts sur la route pour repas et pauses).
Il serait intéressant de ne pas arriver trop tard afin d'avoir le temps de visiter un peu avant la nuit, à moins d'aller uniquement à Mesquite Flat Sand Dunes ce jour-là. www.nps.gov/...-in-death-valley.htm
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Christine
Nous "tracerons" par contre après death valley directement sur Yosemite. Pas d'étape donc à Bakersfield.
Je ne comprends pas. Dans le sens de ton itinéraire, c'est Death Valley qui sera après Yosemite NP.
Attention, ce trajet sera long !
Regarde les logements de Death Valley NP : www.nps.gov/...ourvisit/lodging.htm
Si tu dors, par exemple, au "Stovepipe Wells Village", en faisant une simulation avec google maps en prenant un départ à 9 h de Yosemite Valley fin avril (ne connaissant pas la date exacte, j'ai mis le 25 avril), cela fait 7 à 8 heures de conduite.
Ce jour-là, le soleil se couchera à 19 h 29 dans la Death Valley. Il faudrait partir très tôt de Yosemite Valley. Quand j'ai fait ma simulation, j'ai supposé que vous partiriez à 9 h. Mais, dans ce cas de figure, vous arriveriez vers 19 h (8 h de conduite + arrêts sur la route pour repas et pauses).
Il serait intéressant de ne pas arriver trop tard afin d'avoir le temps de visiter un peu avant la nuit, à moins d'aller uniquement à Mesquite Flat Sand Dunes ce jour-là. www.nps.gov/...-in-death-valley.htm
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Christine
Hiacinthe
Bonsoir Christine,
En fait cette 1ere simulation n'était pas top au niveau timing et je n'ai pas pensé à la mettre à jour lors de la réponse que je t'ai faite... Mon planning est un peu plus finalisé aujourd'hui. 😕 Je vais peut être le soumettre sous le forum d'ailleurs bien qu'il soit très classique)
Donc nous partirions de Vegas dans la matinée et prendrions notre temps.
Nous ferons une étape à DV avec une nuit au plus proche du park.
Puis le lendemain nous repartirions pour Yosemite (cela nous évite Bakerfield). Bien que je regarde aussi un peu les hébergements et je me dis qu'une étape vers Bakerfield serait une option car moins cher que Yosemite surtout si c'est pour arriver tard. Comme nous resterions é nuits sur Yosemite en y allant direct on se pose au moins pour 2 jours comme ça.
Encore merci de prendre du temps pour me répondre !! 😊
En fait cette 1ere simulation n'était pas top au niveau timing et je n'ai pas pensé à la mettre à jour lors de la réponse que je t'ai faite... Mon planning est un peu plus finalisé aujourd'hui. 😕 Je vais peut être le soumettre sous le forum d'ailleurs bien qu'il soit très classique)
Donc nous partirions de Vegas dans la matinée et prendrions notre temps.
Nous ferons une étape à DV avec une nuit au plus proche du park.
Puis le lendemain nous repartirions pour Yosemite (cela nous évite Bakerfield). Bien que je regarde aussi un peu les hébergements et je me dis qu'une étape vers Bakerfield serait une option car moins cher que Yosemite surtout si c'est pour arriver tard. Comme nous resterions é nuits sur Yosemite en y allant direct on se pose au moins pour 2 jours comme ça.
Encore merci de prendre du temps pour me répondre !! 😊
Bonsoir Karine,
Cela n'a pas changé en ce qui concerne les vols : vous ferez un aller-retour France > San Francisco ? Le circuit serait donc une boucle complète à partir de San Francisco.
Donc nous partirions de Vegas dans la matinée et prendrions notre temps.
Nous ferons une étape à DV avec une nuit au plus proche du park.
Puis le lendemain nous repartirions pour Yosemite (cela nous évite Bakerfield). Bien que je regarde aussi un peu les hébergements et je me dis qu'une étape vers Bakerfield serait une option car moins cher que Yosemite surtout si c'est pour arriver tard. Comme nous resterions 2 nuits sur Yosemite en y allant direct on se pose au moins pour 2 jours comme ça.
Du coup, vous feriez la côte à l'aller, et Yosemite NP en fin de circuit avant de revenir à San Francisco ?
A+
Christine
Cela n'a pas changé en ce qui concerne les vols : vous ferez un aller-retour France > San Francisco ? Le circuit serait donc une boucle complète à partir de San Francisco.
Donc nous partirions de Vegas dans la matinée et prendrions notre temps.
Nous ferons une étape à DV avec une nuit au plus proche du park.
Puis le lendemain nous repartirions pour Yosemite (cela nous évite Bakerfield). Bien que je regarde aussi un peu les hébergements et je me dis qu'une étape vers Bakerfield serait une option car moins cher que Yosemite surtout si c'est pour arriver tard. Comme nous resterions 2 nuits sur Yosemite en y allant direct on se pose au moins pour 2 jours comme ça.
Du coup, vous feriez la côte à l'aller, et Yosemite NP en fin de circuit avant de revenir à San Francisco ?
A+
Christine
Hiacinthe
Hello
Tu devrais plutôt ne pas faire étape à Bakersfield!!!
Fais Yosemite et passe une nuit près de Mono Lake (tu contournes par le haut, nord)
Bonne route
Tu devrais plutôt ne pas faire étape à Bakersfield!!!
Fais Yosemite et passe une nuit près de Mono Lake (tu contournes par le haut, nord)
Bonne route
- ien_ien -
Bonsoir
Si seulement j'avais pu prendre la Tioga road... mais pas à cette période. Ça sera donc par le sud.
Mais merci de votre aide.
Bonne soirée.
Fais Yosemite et passe une nuit près de Mono Lake (tu contournes par le haut, nord)
Hello Aurélien,
Si Karine est un peu juste en nombre de jours, contourner la Sierra Nevada par le sud est moins long que par le nord.
De Furnace Creek jusqu'à Yosemite Valley, il y a, à peu près, 690 kilomètres en passant par le sud, c'est possible en une journée sans faire d'étape.
De Furnace Creek jusqu'à Yosemite Valley, en passant par le nord, il y a 835 kilomètres, google maps indique au moins 10 heures de conduite.
Bonne soirée !
Christine
Hello Aurélien,
Si Karine est un peu juste en nombre de jours, contourner la Sierra Nevada par le sud est moins long que par le nord.
De Furnace Creek jusqu'à Yosemite Valley, il y a, à peu près, 690 kilomètres en passant par le sud, c'est possible en une journée sans faire d'étape.
De Furnace Creek jusqu'à Yosemite Valley, en passant par le nord, il y a 835 kilomètres, google maps indique au moins 10 heures de conduite.
Bonne soirée !
Christine
Hiacinthe
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Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine






