État de la route dans la vallée des Aït Bougmez
by Herviche
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
je crois me souvenir que dans la vallée des Ait Bougmez, la route goudronnée ne va que d'Agouti à Tabant. Mais ce souvenir date d'il y a 6 ou 7 ans. Sur google earth la suite n'a pas l'air bien méchante. Qui peut me dire si un véhicule de tourisme peut circuler sans risque de Tabant à Zaouiat Oulmizi? MERCI
Bonjour,
J'y suis allée en avril ; routes ou pistes faciles ( Logan)
Pour plus de détails , voir article sur mon blog
http://fanaumaroc.canalblog.com/archives/2017/04/15/35149310.html
J'y suis allée en avril ; routes ou pistes faciles ( Logan)
Pour plus de détails , voir article sur mon blog
http://fanaumaroc.canalblog.com/archives/2017/04/15/35149310.html
merci Fangui
impossible d'accéder à ton blog!
Tu confirmes? c'est goudron jusque Tabant et ensuite piste facile pour n'importe quelle voiture jusque Zaouiat Oulmizi?
L'idée est de démarrer un trek de zaouiat :
lac d'Ozourar, col de Taghboulla, Taghia, col de Taghboulla, jonction avec la vallée du m'Goun par Tiliwine puis Ighern Izdarn
Si tu as également des infos sur cette rando, n'hésite pas, je suis preneur...
MERCI
Bonjour Herviche,
Je connais bien Zaouiat Ahansal , car j'ai un ami guide là-bas. Les gens de Zaouia connaissent super bien le coin, tu peux te faire guider si tu veux - 1 guide = 35 Euros/jour).
1/ Pour aller à Zaouiha, il n'est pas besoin d'aller jusqu'à Tabant. A Aït M'hamed, il y a une bifurcation, qui va directement à Zaouia. Depuis 2016, la descente en laçets sur Zaouia depuis le col est goudronné. ( le reste l'était dèjà avant). C'est desormais la meilleure route pour Zaouia.
Attention, en hiver , il peut y avoir de la neige.
2/ Ta rando. Je connais cet itineraire ; ca ne pose pas de problème ( je suis allé moi même de Zahoui jusqu'au Mgoun, puis ai descendu les gorges vers le sud , jusqu'à la vallée du Dades. Toutes les infos: www.martinpierre.fr/...reks-en-afrique.html regardes les GTAM 2 et 3 , tu as tout ( izorar, tizi n tighbola( = le tire-bouchon)... Attention à l'eau sur le plateau ( 2 puits , pas facile à trouver seul). Sur GTAM 2 , voir carte detaillée 2 : J7 à 10 : Taghia--> Lac Izorar --> Ait Bougmez. puis tu peux couper pour aller direct en J15 , par Tizi n Ait Imi ' piste depuis fin 2016) .
Bonne ballade
Je connais bien Zaouiat Ahansal , car j'ai un ami guide là-bas. Les gens de Zaouia connaissent super bien le coin, tu peux te faire guider si tu veux - 1 guide = 35 Euros/jour).
1/ Pour aller à Zaouiha, il n'est pas besoin d'aller jusqu'à Tabant. A Aït M'hamed, il y a une bifurcation, qui va directement à Zaouia. Depuis 2016, la descente en laçets sur Zaouia depuis le col est goudronné. ( le reste l'était dèjà avant). C'est desormais la meilleure route pour Zaouia.
Attention, en hiver , il peut y avoir de la neige.
2/ Ta rando. Je connais cet itineraire ; ca ne pose pas de problème ( je suis allé moi même de Zahoui jusqu'au Mgoun, puis ai descendu les gorges vers le sud , jusqu'à la vallée du Dades. Toutes les infos: www.martinpierre.fr/...reks-en-afrique.html regardes les GTAM 2 et 3 , tu as tout ( izorar, tizi n tighbola( = le tire-bouchon)... Attention à l'eau sur le plateau ( 2 puits , pas facile à trouver seul). Sur GTAM 2 , voir carte detaillée 2 : J7 à 10 : Taghia--> Lac Izorar --> Ait Bougmez. puis tu peux couper pour aller direct en J15 , par Tizi n Ait Imi ' piste depuis fin 2016) .
Bonne ballade
Bonjour Péloche
merci pour ta réponse.
Mon idée était plutôt de démarrer ma rando depuis Zaouiat Oulmizi, avec une première étape Zaouiat Oulmizi-Izourar -Tizi n'Taghboulla
une deuxième étape en boucle Taghboulla -Taghia -Taghboulla (je crois comprendre qu'il ya deux façons de joindre Taghia depuis Taghboulla mais cette étape est peut-être un peu lourde)
ensuite une jonction Taghboulla vallée du M'Goun au niveau de Ighern izdarn
puis remonter la vallée du m'Goun, rejoindre tarkedite puis le col de Roughelt et redescendre à agouti par Roughelt
Je pense que 8 jours de rando c'est un peu juste pour faire tout ça, mais il y a moyen de shunter le retour par Tizi n'Ait Imi ou par les gorges d'Arrous
Donc si tu as la réponse concernant la jonction Tabant Zaouiat Oulmizi en voiture de tourisme je reste preneur d'infos En tout cas ton site a l'air d'être une vraie mine, je l'ai mis dans mes favoris et vais prendre mon temps pour modifier et affiner notre parcours A priori nous avons notre guide, avec qui nous avons nos habitudes, même s'il ne connait pas forcément la région de Zaouiat Ahensal (il est de Bou Taghrar) encore merci pour tout
Donc si tu as la réponse concernant la jonction Tabant Zaouiat Oulmizi en voiture de tourisme je reste preneur d'infos En tout cas ton site a l'air d'être une vraie mine, je l'ai mis dans mes favoris et vais prendre mon temps pour modifier et affiner notre parcours A priori nous avons notre guide, avec qui nous avons nos habitudes, même s'il ne connait pas forcément la région de Zaouiat Ahensal (il est de Bou Taghrar) encore merci pour tout
Salut Herviche,
J'ai fabriqué une trace GPS Google Maps entre Azilal et Ait oulmzi ; je confirme , elle va directement de Aït M'hamed vers Ait oulmzi sans passer par Tabant. Et c'est goudronné ( Peut être la toute petite partie avant Ait Oulmzi est en terre .). Je peux te l'envoyer par MP.
Sinon, tu as le site du gite touda à Ait oulmzi ou tout est nickel: http://www.touda.fr/ L' 'acces indiqué sur leur site est conforme au mien ( direct Ait m'hamed): http://www.touda.fr/vallee-bouguemez-informations/acces/ Le pdf est excellent: http://www.touda.fr/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/itineraire-Touda.pdf
Gilles
J'ai fabriqué une trace GPS Google Maps entre Azilal et Ait oulmzi ; je confirme , elle va directement de Aït M'hamed vers Ait oulmzi sans passer par Tabant. Et c'est goudronné ( Peut être la toute petite partie avant Ait Oulmzi est en terre .). Je peux te l'envoyer par MP.
Sinon, tu as le site du gite touda à Ait oulmzi ou tout est nickel: http://www.touda.fr/ L' 'acces indiqué sur leur site est conforme au mien ( direct Ait m'hamed): http://www.touda.fr/vallee-bouguemez-informations/acces/ Le pdf est excellent: http://www.touda.fr/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/itineraire-Touda.pdf
Gilles
rebonjour Gilles
Merci encore de ces nouvelles infos. pour l'instant j'accumule et je me constitue un joli dossier.
Donc on peut aller direct à Zaouiat Oulmizi et apparemment ce n'est pas plus long que Ait M'hamed-Agouti.
Mais, tu vas dire que je tergiverse, je reviens peut-être sur une option : départ de rando de Zaouiat Ahensal, histoire de gagner une journée par rapport à un départ de Zaouiat Oulmizi pour rejoindre Tighboulla, ce qui donnerait, en mixant de tes topos GTAM 2 et 3 :
Zaouiat Ahensal-Taghia-Tighboulla-Ighern Izdarn (en trois journées)
Ighern Izdarn - Talat Righane -Tarkedit -Tizi n'Roughelt -Roughoult -Agouti (en gros et en quatre ou cinq journées)
Du coup , nouvelle question comment vas-tu par la route jusque Zaouiat Ahensal?
à partir de Zaouiat Oulmizi? (ou du moins en quittant la route depuis Ait M'hamed 10 bornes avant l'arrivée dans la vallée vers la gauche) ou à partir de Ouaouizert par Tilouguite? (ce qui a l'air interminable)
Promis, plus que dix-sept questions et je te laisse tranquille...
Promis, plus que dix-sept questions et je te laisse tranquille...
Bonjour,
Regarde sur le lien de mon blog qui fonctionne ! J'explique comment aller à Zaoulat Ahensal
Regarde sur le lien de mon blog qui fonctionne ! J'explique comment aller à Zaoulat Ahensal
Voilà pour le trajet azilal-zaouia ahansal:
https://goo.gl/maps/uNC9VRDcUYq
( azilal -> Ait m'hamed -> près de Ait Oulmzi -> remontée au col à l'Est - descente en lacets sur zaouia).
Pour le trajet à pied , oui , c'est plus logique de partir de Zaouia ahansal, mais je vois pas bien ou tu veux finir , et quelle est ta logistique ( mule ou pas mule).
Enfin, dernier truc, quand je suis passé sur cet itinéraire en 2014, le J7 dans le canyon ne passait plus ( gros éboulement); il y a un autre sentier , qui passe au dessus et plus au nord , en partant de Zaouia ( se renseigner aupres des nombreux guides de Zaouia ( vrai ou faux guides ) - ils le connaissent tous). Au cas ou, mon guide ( guide Allibert aussi) s'appelle Ahmed , et habite Zaouia.
Pour le trajet à pied , oui , c'est plus logique de partir de Zaouia ahansal, mais je vois pas bien ou tu veux finir , et quelle est ta logistique ( mule ou pas mule).
Enfin, dernier truc, quand je suis passé sur cet itinéraire en 2014, le J7 dans le canyon ne passait plus ( gros éboulement); il y a un autre sentier , qui passe au dessus et plus au nord , en partant de Zaouia ( se renseigner aupres des nombreux guides de Zaouia ( vrai ou faux guides ) - ils le connaissent tous). Au cas ou, mon guide ( guide Allibert aussi) s'appelle Ahmed , et habite Zaouia.
merci, ça confirme mon envie de partir de Zaouiat Ahensal
Oui bien sûr c'est une rando avec mules et muletiers.
A priori je vais demander à notre guide habituel (avec qui on déjà randonné entre vallée du m'Goun, Ait Bougmez et Djebel Saghro, de constituer son équipe à partir de Zaouiat.
Si ça ne lui convient pas je te demanderai des tuyaux pour un guide.
En fait on n'aura pas le temps de boucler la boucle pour revenir à pieds jusque Zaouiat.
On peut par exemple finir d'Agouti à Zaouiat en taxi collectif, quitte à payer une journée de plus aux muletiers pour leur retour.
ça fait longtemps (après avoir fait Tarkedit, Ait Bougmez, vallée et gorges du M'goun, etc), que je flashe sur Taghia et sur Roughelt quand je me promène sur google earth... J'essaie donc de combiner tout ça en un seul trek de huit jours, c'est peut-être un peu juste, je ne sais pas.
En tout cas je crois comprendre dans tes infos qu'il y aura toujours un chemin pour rejoindre le plateau au niveau de Tizi n 'Taghboulla à partir du bas des gorges de Taghia puis de rejoindre la vallée du m'Goun au niveau d'Ighern Izdarn. C'était ça mes principales interrogations.
bonjour Peloche
j'essaie de vérifier si j'ai bien tout compris :
le parcours pour remonter de Taghia à Tighboula, c'est en orange celui qu'on appelle le tire-bouchon? (toujours praticable pour marcheurs et mules) et le vert est celui dont tu me dis qu'il est peut-être bloqué par des éboulements? (plus sportif mais plus joli?)
la petite excursion d'1h30 que tu décris J14 de la GTAM 3 ne descend pas dans les gorges, elle reste en haut?
merci encore
j'affine mon parcours, j'affine...
j'ai modifié la carte GTAM 2 pour y mettre toutes les infos, autour de Zaoui Ahansal et taghia:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Y8KE0v84-OGv2DOgh-qFr8MD-NJmEvgx
( j’espère que ça marche ). En vert, le tire bouchon, en bleu, l’itinéraire que j'ai utilisé, croix -rouge, le canyon non accessible en 2013.
Quand au J14 GTAM 3, je n'etais pas avec martin pierre dans cette ballade, mais peut etre le canyon ne passe pas.
( j’espère que ça marche ). En vert, le tire bouchon, en bleu, l’itinéraire que j'ai utilisé, croix -rouge, le canyon non accessible en 2013.
Quand au J14 GTAM 3, je n'etais pas avec martin pierre dans cette ballade, mais peut etre le canyon ne passe pas.
Le tire bouchon est splendide : c'est un escalier en colimaçon artificiel dans un un cheminée évasée de 30m de haut ( seul les berbères pratiquent cet art : bouts de bois au dessus du vide pour " créer" des sentiers ).
Mule totalement impossible , et prudence en rando, c'est assez aérien. Tu trouveras facilement des photos sur google ( taghia + tire-bouchon). Par ex: https://voyageforum.com/images/posts/small/1464688904-ELwc1fRWoHpsWKo.jpg
Mule totalement impossible , et prudence en rando, c'est assez aérien. Tu trouveras facilement des photos sur google ( taghia + tire-bouchon). Par ex: https://voyageforum.com/images/posts/small/1464688904-ELwc1fRWoHpsWKo.jpg
bonjour
Je continue d'affiner...
Quem e conseilles-tu pour joindre Tarkedit au village de Roughoult,
je vois deux options :
1 remonter de Tarkedit au col au-dessus des bergeries d'arous (peut-être bien le col de Tarkedit) puis joindre Ifri n'Ait kerfala puis Roughoult (trace rose sur la photo google earth)
option 2 : Tarkedit Ichbaken, nuit à Ichbaken et le lelendemain Ichbaken-tizi n'Roughoult-Roughoult J'ai comme ça l'impression que l'option 1 peut se faire en une journée et l'option 2 nécessite une nuit à Ichbaken
option 2 : Tarkedit Ichbaken, nuit à Ichbaken et le lelendemain Ichbaken-tizi n'Roughoult-Roughoult J'ai comme ça l'impression que l'option 1 peut se faire en une journée et l'option 2 nécessite une nuit à Ichbaken
Bonjour
Je reprends cette discussion là où je l'avais laissée après avoir discuté avec mon guide (qui n'est pas tout à fait du coin, mais plutôt de Bou Taghrar, mais qui va constituer son équipe à Zaouiat). j'ai visité des blogs d'alpinistes qui m'inquiètent : est-ce que ce qu'ils appellent le passage berbère (espèce de balcon dans le vide sur une falaise) fait partie également de l'itinéraire Taghia-Taghboullah qui passe par le tire bouchon? Ou alors est-ce que passage berbère et tire-bouchon sont sur deux trajets différents? Les photos du tire-bouchon me font bien envie, celles intitulées "passage berbère" m'ont l'air plutôt réservées à des pratiquants de l'escalade qu'à de simples randonneurs comme moi. merci aussi de me confirmer que si je veux gagner deux heures sur mon étape vers le Tizi n'Taghboullah, il vaut mieux coucher à Taghia qu'à Zaouiat. J'ai bien compris que sur cette étape-là nous ne serons pas accompagnés des mules et le retrouveront seulement le soir à l'arrivée au bivouac près des sources. Merci de tes réponses
PS : tes cartes sont un précieux trésor!
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I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
Hi everyone! :)
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help