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Arnaque: location de voiture à Las Vegas
by Jackpalance
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjour
nous avons louer un vehicule chez Payless à Vegas pour une duree de 4 semaines et nous avons pris toutes les assurances même la LSI supplementaire jusqu'a 1 million de $, comme il n'y avait pas de vehicule de libre nous avons attendu toute une journée et enfin un véhicule nous a été remis. ce véhicule etait abimé et cabossé de partout, griffes, coups dans la carrosserie etc nous avons remplis le document Check OUT (avec un employé que j'avais appelé pour lui faire part que même le bas de caisse etait plié) avec tout les dégats qu'avait le vehicule avant la prise en charge avant la location
pendant notre periple nous avons eu une crevaison le pneu a litteralement explosé et le réparateur de pneus nous a dit que nous avions eu beaucoup de chance car ce pneu avait deja ete réparé ulterieurement mais en depit du bon sens et il n'y avait rien dans le vehicule pour demonter la roue ni de cric (lift) nous avons eu des frais de depannage et remorquage towing.
apres avoir rendu le vehicule le Check IN indique deux pneus sur le coupon.
trois semaines plus tard nous recevons une facture de reparations de carrosserie, de peinture et de pneus pour un montant de 2000$.
en fait ils ont rentré le vehicule chez un carrossier qui a réparer et remis en etat le véhicule et ils essaient de nous faire porter le chapeau pour des degats qui datent antérieurement a notre location
tout nos contacts et explications avec Payless restent sans succès ils restent sur leur position meme avec les bordereaux indiquant les degats au vehicule lors de la remise/reprise sous le nez
ou bien ils se foutent de nous ou bien c'est de l'intox
ne prenez surtout pas ces petites agences de location vous n'aurez que des déboires
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Bonjour jackpalance,
trois semaines plus tard nous recevons une facture de reparations de carrosserie, de peinture et de pneus pour un montant de 2000$.
Est-ce que votre carte de crédit a été débité de cette somme ou s'agit-il seulement de l'envoi (malhonnête) d'une facture ?
trois semaines plus tard nous recevons une facture de reparations de carrosserie, de peinture et de pneus pour un montant de 2000$.
Est-ce que votre carte de crédit a été débité de cette somme ou s'agit-il seulement de l'envoi (malhonnête) d'une facture ?
Ces gens se disent que si vous avez été capables de louer cette voiture dans l'état ou elle était il y ait des chances que vous soyez prets à payer pour ces réparations indues.
Comme vous l' écrivez ils se foutent de vous mais reconnaissez que vous l'avez quand même cherché...
Voyager, c'est demander d'un coup à la distance ce que le temps ne pourrait nous donner que peu à peu, c'est gagner son procès contre l'habitude.
Je ne suis absolument pas d'accord avec ce que tu dis.
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
Vous vous etes bien fait entubé malheureusement😐
Avise ta compagnie de carte de crédit de cette histoire . Normalement tu seras protégé et tu n'auras pas a payer.
Par contre tu ne mentionnes pas si tu as payé avec une carte ?
Cette compagnie va peut-être à la pêche en essayant d' avoir un poisson . Le dernier poisson , qui a loué (cabossé) la voiture , ou l'autre avant n'ont pas mordu. Allosr maintenant c'est toi.
Bonne chance
Par contre tu ne mentionnes pas si tu as payé avec une carte ?
Cette compagnie va peut-être à la pêche en essayant d' avoir un poisson . Le dernier poisson , qui a loué (cabossé) la voiture , ou l'autre avant n'ont pas mordu. Allosr maintenant c'est toi.
Bonne chance
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
Le nom de l'agence donne le ton : Payless .... mais tu as les problèmes qui vont avec "payer moins cher" !!. Avise ta carte de crédit et refuse de payer. Tu t'es fais avoir c'est tout. C'est encore une fois la preuve que payer moins cher .... ne vaut pas forcément la peine !!!. Un commerçant quel qu'il soit doit faire de l'argent, alors quand les tarifs sont trop bas, il y a chance d'arnaque quelque part c'est certain !!!.
Moi, je verrais très bien payer moins cher et avoir une auto légèrement cabossée si je suis prévenu et ce ne serais pas incompatible avec une compagnie honnête.
Sur le forum il n'est que question de payer moins cher , on se donne des trucs pour payer moins cher. Que ce soit pour une location de voiture ou pour un hôtel . Je trouve que c'est trop facile de dire après......évidemment tu cherchais moins cher.
D'ailleurs je crois me rappeler de gens sur ce forum qui on eu des problèmes avec des compagnies de location d'autos avec des nom plus " prestigieux ".
Sur le forum il n'est que question de payer moins cher , on se donne des trucs pour payer moins cher. Que ce soit pour une location de voiture ou pour un hôtel . Je trouve que c'est trop facile de dire après......évidemment tu cherchais moins cher.
D'ailleurs je crois me rappeler de gens sur ce forum qui on eu des problèmes avec des compagnies de location d'autos avec des nom plus " prestigieux ".
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
Un cas semblable m'est arrivé, pas avec une voiture aussi endommagée mais....
J'ai reçu une lettre me disant que je devais telle somme pour réparations alors que nous n'avions eu aucun accrochage, rien.
J'ai envoyé une lettre recommandée disant que je refusais de payer et que, si nécessaire, je mettrais le cas dans les mains d'un avocat. Je n'ai jamais ré-entendu parler d'eux (dans ce cas-ci, c'était Alamo)
Comme dit Mimi, si les frais de réparations ont déjà été portés sur votre carte de crédit, avertissez votre compagnie de carte que vous refusez la charge et eux en avertiront Payless.
J'ai reçu une lettre me disant que je devais telle somme pour réparations alors que nous n'avions eu aucun accrochage, rien.
J'ai envoyé une lettre recommandée disant que je refusais de payer et que, si nécessaire, je mettrais le cas dans les mains d'un avocat. Je n'ai jamais ré-entendu parler d'eux (dans ce cas-ci, c'était Alamo)
Comme dit Mimi, si les frais de réparations ont déjà été portés sur votre carte de crédit, avertissez votre compagnie de carte que vous refusez la charge et eux en avertiront Payless.
Si tu veux être apprécié, meurs ou voyage.
Pour avoir travaillé 10 ans dans la location de voiture, je peux vs dire que ce n'est pas en louant des voitures abimées qu'un loueur va gagner de l'argent, donc il ne peux pas faire des tarifs moins chers.
En fait on va se trouver la dans le cas typique de la relation commerciele ratée : le client comme le fournisseurs ne sont satisfait ni l'un ni l'autre.
En fait on va se trouver la dans le cas typique de la relation commerciele ratée : le client comme le fournisseurs ne sont satisfait ni l'un ni l'autre.
non nous avons payé la location normale avec les assurances avec carte de credit dès le début de la location.
la somme qui nous est parvenue pour les reparations (2000$) nous est parvenue trois semaines apres notre retour en Europe et sous forme de email avec les factures officielles scannées donc ils ne savent pas debiter ma carte sans mon accord
ce que je trouve aussi bizzare c'est que je n'ai reçu aucun courrier officiel dans ma bôite aux lettres seulement cet email et encore par une societe qui travaille en sous traitance pour la societe de location
mefiance mefiance de plus impossible de trouver une adresse email d'un responsable Payless sur le web
bizzare tout cela
toutes les assurances
Y compris celle qui t'assure zéro franchise ? Si oui je ne vois pas ou est le problème, zéro franchise = je ne paie rien ( sauf si j'ai un accident alors que je suis sous l'emprise de l'alcool/drogue ou queje conduis en dehors des routes ouvertes à la circulation)
Maruja : à SFO j'ai accepté le cabriolet avec une bosse en bas de caisse, quelques rayure et une grosse tache sur le siège passager ( une tache sur le tissu, pas un ahuri dans la voiture 😎😎) parce qu'il n'y avait pas d'autre voiture !!
Y compris celle qui t'assure zéro franchise ? Si oui je ne vois pas ou est le problème, zéro franchise = je ne paie rien ( sauf si j'ai un accident alors que je suis sous l'emprise de l'alcool/drogue ou queje conduis en dehors des routes ouvertes à la circulation)
Maruja : à SFO j'ai accepté le cabriolet avec une bosse en bas de caisse, quelques rayure et une grosse tache sur le siège passager ( une tache sur le tissu, pas un ahuri dans la voiture 😎😎) parce qu'il n'y avait pas d'autre voiture !!
Patrick.
Au Mexique des fois la voiture de location a quelques pets mais toujours il y a un constat de la voiture ou tout est marqué cela est joint au contrat et a la remise du véhicule un nouveau contrôle est fait avec un employé de la société de location
En Crête pareil qu'au Mexique
Chez Dollar on choisit sa voiture et l'employé au guichet avant la barrière a la sortie regarde ton contrat et go aucun contrôle de l'état du véhicule ni a la prise ni a la restitution je trouve pas cela normal mais c'est ainsi!!!
Je pense que cela doit dépendre des loueurs
Bonne fin d'après midi
En Crête pareil qu'au Mexique
Chez Dollar on choisit sa voiture et l'employé au guichet avant la barrière a la sortie regarde ton contrat et go aucun contrôle de l'état du véhicule ni a la prise ni a la restitution je trouve pas cela normal mais c'est ainsi!!!
Je pense que cela doit dépendre des loueurs
Bonne fin d'après midi
Au Mexique
Je ne pense pas qu'on puisse comparer les loc de voitures aux US et à Vegas et celles du Mexique
En Crête pareil qu'au Mexique
Et encore moins pour la Crète
Chez Dollar on choisit sa voiture
Ca dépend ou , et globalement on choisit de moins en moins.
et l'employé au guichet avant la barrière a la sortie regarde ton contrat et go aucun contrôle de l'état du véhicule ni a la prise ni a la restitution je trouve pas cela normal mais c'est ainsi!!!
C'est déjà plus conforme à ce qui arrive le plus souvent aux US
Je ne pense pas qu'on puisse comparer les loc de voitures aux US et à Vegas et celles du Mexique
En Crête pareil qu'au Mexique
Et encore moins pour la Crète
Chez Dollar on choisit sa voiture
Ca dépend ou , et globalement on choisit de moins en moins.
et l'employé au guichet avant la barrière a la sortie regarde ton contrat et go aucun contrôle de l'état du véhicule ni a la prise ni a la restitution je trouve pas cela normal mais c'est ainsi!!!
C'est déjà plus conforme à ce qui arrive le plus souvent aux US
Patrick.
A Atlanta Dollar on choisit sa voiture dans le garage ou elles soit garées par catégories
A Dollar Washington on vous amène la voiture devant les guichets pas de choix
Encore en 2011 ???
Encore en 2011 ???
Patrick.
Oui on a loué le 20 mai 2011 et c'était ainsi
A l'aéroport D'Atlanta il y a depuis 2010 un building pour tous les loueurs de voitures avec un étage de garage ou un demi étage chacun ce qui facilite la prise des voiture et la restitution c'est facile d’accès et relier a l'aéroport par un train qui va au Car rental center .
A l'aéroport D'Atlanta il y a depuis 2010 un building pour tous les loueurs de voitures avec un étage de garage ou un demi étage chacun ce qui facilite la prise des voiture et la restitution c'est facile d’accès et relier a l'aéroport par un train qui va au Car rental center .
A Atlanta Dollar on choisit sa voiture dans le garage ou elles soit garées par catégories
A Dollar Washington on vous amène la voiture devant les guichets pas de choix
Encore en 2011 ???
Salut Pat
A noter que cette année à LAX Alamo nous n'avons pas eu le choix du véhicule alors qu'en 2009 oui.
Encore en 2011 ???
Salut Pat
A noter que cette année à LAX Alamo nous n'avons pas eu le choix du véhicule alors qu'en 2009 oui.
Bien, bien, c'est intéressant, mais je crois que l'on s'éloigne du sujet initial du post de notre ami belge... 😏
Mathilde
Bien, bien, c'est intéressant, mais je crois que l'on s'éloigne du sujet initial du post de notre ami belge... 😏
Comme sans doute 90% des sujets du forum 😏. C'est le propre d'une conversation de dévier du sujet initial!
Comme sans doute 90% des sujets du forum 😏. C'est le propre d'une conversation de dévier du sujet initial!
Bonjour ITAT,
A noter que cette année à LAX Alamo nous n'avons pas eu le choix du véhicule alors qu'en 2009 oui.
Nous avons eu en mai, la possibilité de choisir notre véhicule sur le parking d'Alamo à l'aéroport de San Francisco.
A noter que cette année à LAX Alamo nous n'avons pas eu le choix du véhicule alors qu'en 2009 oui.
Nous avons eu en mai, la possibilité de choisir notre véhicule sur le parking d'Alamo à l'aéroport de San Francisco.
Meme si on vs propose un vehicule, vs pouvez tjrs demander à en changer.
Chez HERTZ, l'hotese de comptoir cite tjrs le vehicule proposé et demande tjrs si il convient. l'an dernier à CHICAGO c'est ele qui au vu de nos bagages, a changé le vehicule qui m'attendait devant le comptoir pour m'en donner un avec plus grand coffre.
A NYC, comme le vehicule proposé me semblait n peu petit pour les bagages, elle m'a proposé de suivre un employé de l'agence à travers le parc pour prendre ce que je voulais.
Chez HERTZ, l'hotese de comptoir cite tjrs le vehicule proposé et demande tjrs si il convient. l'an dernier à CHICAGO c'est ele qui au vu de nos bagages, a changé le vehicule qui m'attendait devant le comptoir pour m'en donner un avec plus grand coffre.
A NYC, comme le vehicule proposé me semblait n peu petit pour les bagages, elle m'a proposé de suivre un employé de l'agence à travers le parc pour prendre ce que je voulais.
Bonjour jpg13,
Meme si on vs propose un vehicule, vs pouvez tjrs demander à en changer.
Chez HERTZ, l'hotese de comptoir cite tjrs le vehicule proposé et demande tjrs si il convient. l'an dernier à CHICAGO c'est ele qui au vu de nos bagages, a changé le vehicule qui m'attendait devant le comptoir pour m'en donner un avec plus grand coffre.
A NYC, comme le vehicule proposé me semblait n peu petit pour les bagages, elle m'a proposé de suivre un employé de l'agence à travers le parc pour prendre ce que je voulais.
Je pense que ce message ne m'était pas destiné ! A qui voulais-tu répondre ?
Meme si on vs propose un vehicule, vs pouvez tjrs demander à en changer.
Chez HERTZ, l'hotese de comptoir cite tjrs le vehicule proposé et demande tjrs si il convient. l'an dernier à CHICAGO c'est ele qui au vu de nos bagages, a changé le vehicule qui m'attendait devant le comptoir pour m'en donner un avec plus grand coffre.
A NYC, comme le vehicule proposé me semblait n peu petit pour les bagages, elle m'a proposé de suivre un employé de l'agence à travers le parc pour prendre ce que je voulais.
Je pense que ce message ne m'était pas destiné ! A qui voulais-tu répondre ?
Hé alors pourquoi vous sentir visé par un message écrit pour tous
Pourquoi me sentir visé ??????? Drôle de question !!! A laquelle je vais tout de même répondre:
Et bien, tout simplement parce que............................Ce message m'a été (par erreur, je pense) adressé directement !!! Alors qu'il n'a pas vraiment de rapport avec le mien ! 😉
Par contre, pourrais-je connaître la raison exacte de la "pointe d'agressivité" que je crois deviner dans le vôtre, Madame Maruja46 ? De plus, en répondant à un message qui était adressé à jpg13 et non à vous, il me semble ?
Pourquoi me sentir visé ??????? Drôle de question !!! A laquelle je vais tout de même répondre:
Et bien, tout simplement parce que............................Ce message m'a été (par erreur, je pense) adressé directement !!! Alors qu'il n'a pas vraiment de rapport avec le mien ! 😉
Par contre, pourrais-je connaître la raison exacte de la "pointe d'agressivité" que je crois deviner dans le vôtre, Madame Maruja46 ? De plus, en répondant à un message qui était adressé à jpg13 et non à vous, il me semble ?
J'en suis désolé...
Faut pas. Quant on répond à un message, on ne va pas systématiquement cliquer sur le " Répondre " du premier message du topic, il arrive donc souvent qu'on clique sur le dernier, surtout quand c'est une réponse générale ...
Faut pas. Quant on répond à un message, on ne va pas systématiquement cliquer sur le " Répondre " du premier message du topic, il arrive donc souvent qu'on clique sur le dernier, surtout quand c'est une réponse générale ...
Patrick.
bonjour a tous
jusqu'a présent je n'ai reçu aucun courrier officiel j'entend par là un courrier boîte aux lettres seulement un émail avec la somme dont nous sommes soi disant redevable et copies de la facture du carrossier (pour moi un mail n'a rien d'officiel)
mon amie leurs a renvoyer un mot de contestation ainsi que l'historique de notre affaire et les scan des deux billets prouvant l'etat du vehicule avant et apres notre location
leur réponse: nous continuons la procedure! autrement dit les preuves que nous avons envoyées prouvant que les degats du vehicule etant anterieur a notre location ne sont pas prises en ligne de compte
puisqu'ils font preuve de mauvaise foi et bien je n'ai comme solution que d'ignorer leur demande aussi.
puisque j'ai en ma possession la preuve des degats avant et apres la reprise/remise
de plus pas moyen de trouver l'email d'un responsable Payless sur le web ces gens travaillent avec un sous traitant qui n'a aucun pouvoir de décision
René
René
Aucune agressivité de ma part juste une réflexion , qui va dans la logique d'un forum et les autres ont très bien expliqué ma pensée
Quand on répons a un message on ne va pas toujours répondre a la personne qui a lancé la discussion des fois le message est général et on répond au dernier intervenant
Je tente de répondre a la personne a qui est destiné mon message mais il m'arrive de faire une erreur
Dans le cas qui nous intéresse je vous ai trouvé vous agressif vis a vis de JP13, qui vous avait répondu d’après vous a tort. Chaque fois que cela se produit cela me hérisse le poil car l'erreur est humaine on peut tous en faire une un jour ou l'autre
Quand on répons a un message on ne va pas toujours répondre a la personne qui a lancé la discussion des fois le message est général et on répond au dernier intervenant
Je tente de répondre a la personne a qui est destiné mon message mais il m'arrive de faire une erreur
Dans le cas qui nous intéresse je vous ai trouvé vous agressif vis a vis de JP13, qui vous avait répondu d’après vous a tort. Chaque fois que cela se produit cela me hérisse le poil car l'erreur est humaine on peut tous en faire une un jour ou l'autre
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Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly! Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
Hi everyone! 🙂
Just a quick question about King Canyon and Sequoia National Park.
Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!