Cinq jours pour découvrir une autre grande métropole américaine
by Colleenette
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Ma fille et moi, très amoureuses de la vie américaine désirons partir pendant les vacances de la Toussaint dans une ville typiquement américaine mais nous en avons déjà fait pas mal : NYC washington Chicago Las Végas Los Angeles Miami San Francisco et San Diego. Que me proposeriez-vous ? J'avais pensé à San Antonio mais je crains que cela ne soit un peu petit pour occuper cinq jours !!
Notre séjour s'effectuera à pied ou en transport en commun. Je suis un peu à court d'idées . Pouvez-vous m'aider ??? Merci d'avance !!!
Parmi les villes que vous ne connaissez pas encore:
1) Boston 2) Seattle 3) Philadelphie 4) Santa Fe
San Antonio ne marcherait pas pour 5 jours et sans voiture pour visiter les alentours. Il y a aussi New Orleans, mais 5 jours c'est peut-etre trop.
1) Boston 2) Seattle 3) Philadelphie 4) Santa Fe
San Antonio ne marcherait pas pour 5 jours et sans voiture pour visiter les alentours. Il y a aussi New Orleans, mais 5 jours c'est peut-etre trop.
Boston Philadelphie Seattle Nouvelle-Orleans
Patrick
Patrick
On ne vit qu'une fois !
Mes USA 1998 2000 ... : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/
USA 2008 : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/home/usa-2008
USA 2011 : http://sites.google.com/site/heavencanwaitno/home/usa-2011
Merci pour ces suggestions ! Philadelphie et Boston ne peuvent-elles être visitées lors du même voya ge ?
Quelles sont les principales attractions de ces villes ? Encore merci pour votre aide, je vais aller me pencher sur ces villes !! Santa Fe je n'y aurais pa du tout penser !!!
Bonjour, merci pour ces suggestions qui recoupent celles faites par une précédente internaute. Seattle en novembre n'est-ce pas trop froid ??? De toutes ces villes laquelle se rapproche le plus de Chicago (ville que j'ai adorée après New York ) ? Merci de m'aider, je suis réellement dans le flou !!
Normalement il ne fait pas trop froid a Seattle en hiver, mais il pleut tres souvent d'Octobre a Mai. Maximum moyen en novembre a Seattle (et Boston) est 11C. Minimum 4 a Boston, 5 a Seattle.
On peut visiter pas mal de choses a Santa Fe a pied (surtout si on aime des musees), mais une voiture serait tres utile si on veut voir d'autres beaux sites dans le nord de N-M.
On peut visiter pas mal de choses a Santa Fe a pied (surtout si on aime des musees), mais une voiture serait tres utile si on veut voir d'autres beaux sites dans le nord de N-M.
Philadelphie avec un tour au comté de Lancaster pour les amish?
Boston avec un tour dans le Maine ou le Vermont?
Il y a loargement de quoi occuper 5 jours, dans ces villes à l'histoire chargée et très facile pour des déplacements pédestres.
C'est un devoir de bousculer la pensée unique...
Et les grande villes du Canada? Elles sont quand-même très aux couleur américaine🙂 Toronto, Calgary, Vancouver, Montréal, Winnipeg, Edmondton, ... humm Niagara Fall, Halifax (plus intime mais combien jolie), Québec?! Victoria..
J'ai déjà visité Québec et Montréal et je ne suis pas contre découvrir d'autres villes canadiennes mais je termine toujours mes séjours par une journée en outlet pour y faire le plein des marques américaines plus chères chez nous et je ne crois pas que la chaîne premium outlet existe au Canada.
Merci quand même pour la suggestion.
Merci pour la suggestion ! Je vais aller sur les sites touristiques consulter ce qui est dit sur ces deux villes !! En espérant qu'à proximité soit situé un centre outlet que je visite toujours au moins une fois avant de repartir !! Encore merci ..
Bonsoir,
Vu que les meilleures idées sont ci-dessus🤪😊, quid de Charleston, SC et Savannah, GA ! En novembre il y fera bon, on y est très facilement depuis l'aéroport d'Atlanta (vols directs de Paris), et l'atmosphère du Sud y est intéressante : vieilles maisons, forts de la guerre de Secession, les plantations etc etc
Up to you !!
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
Pour les Outllets, il n'y a pas de taxes en Pennsylvanie.
Il y en a un de très bien Premium Outlet à Limerick ...150 boutiques et un autre plus petit Tanger à Lancaster.
le lien magique pour tous les Outlets US....en KDO
http://www.outletbound.com/usa50.html
C'est un devoir de bousculer la pensée unique...
Merci pour le lien !!
Je ne connaissais pas les outlet "Tanger". Je suis une inconditionnelle des premium outlets que j'ai trouvés à Chicago, San Diego, Washington, las Végas...
Je vais étudier donc la Pennsylvanie si en plus il n'y a pas de taxes !!!
Je n'arrive pas à me décider, dès que l'on me propose une autre ville je vais sur les sites de tourisme mais pour l'instant je n'ai pas de vrai coup de coeur !!!
Merci, néanmoins pour votre aide. Bien amicalement
Je vais étudier donc la Pennsylvanie si en plus il n'y a pas de taxes !!!
Bonsoir Colleenette,
Plus exactement, il n'y a pas de taxes sur les vêtements. Les autres articles sont normalement taxés. Dans le coin (à l'échelle américaine, bien sûr !), si tu veux des états vraiment détaxés, tu as le Delaware et le New Hampshire (sauf l'alcool).
Bonsoir Colleenette,
Plus exactement, il n'y a pas de taxes sur les vêtements. Les autres articles sont normalement taxés. Dans le coin (à l'échelle américaine, bien sûr !), si tu veux des états vraiment détaxés, tu as le Delaware et le New Hampshire (sauf l'alcool).
Merci pour l'info sur les taxes !!
Finalement je vais étudier Boston, San Francisco (je l'ai déjà fait ..mais il y a 10 ans !)et Atlanta. Je crois que dans ces trois métropoles, il y a un premium outlet et comme elles sont aux antipodes l'une de l'autre j'ai encore de quoi réfléchir !!
Si vos avez des infos supplémentaires sur l'une ou l'autre de ces destinations afin de faire pencher la balance, n'hésitez-pas çà m'en faire part et je vous en remercie d'avance ! Cordialement
San Antonio, que j'ai beaucoup aimé, se fait en trois ou quatre jours tranquillement et si vous aviez une voiture alors cinq jours c'était bon. Par contre, il faut aimer un minimum l'Histoire.
Tout dépend de ce que vous cherchez...
Boston a une âme, une histoire, et permet de faire beaucoup à pieds (un circuit est spcécialement conçu pour cela)
C'est une des villes importantes des USA, très appréciée des américains..
Kittery est tout près (Outlet).
Philadephie est connue pour ses musées, son rôle pour l'Indépendance, ses murs peints et tant d'autres encore.
Fin octobre le climat sera plus clément à Philly qu'à Boston.
(je vais sur le côte Est depuis plus de 10 ans, je pense bien connaître le coin).
Atlanta? San Antonio? villes intéressantes mais peu comparables avec Boston ou Philadephie.
Merci pour votre réponse !
Je suis allée donc voir des sites sur Boston...la seule chose qui me gêne; c'est que tout le monde s'entend pour dire que c'est la plus européenne des villes américaines !! Or, je recherche vraiment une métropole américaine avec tout ce que l'on s'attend à y voir !! J'ai peur d'être déçue, même si le côté historique me plait beaucoup !
Au mois de novembre, plusieurs des attractions estivals sont fermés et l'animation urbaine est beaucoup plus limité...Boston et Philadelphie, qui sont de superbes villes, seront moins intéressantes que durant l'été.
Habituellement les français sont charmés par la Nouvelle Orleans...étrange que vous n'en parliez pas...définitivement une des 5 plus belles villes des USA.
Outlet ??? Gulfport au Mississipi http://www.primeoutlets.com/locations/gulfport.aspx
Habituellement les français sont charmés par la Nouvelle Orleans...étrange que vous n'en parliez pas...définitivement une des 5 plus belles villes des USA.
Outlet ??? Gulfport au Mississipi http://www.primeoutlets.com/locations/gulfport.aspx
expose
Votre choix risque d'être compliqué.
Une métropole US qui ne ressemble pas à une ville européenne, mais tout en voulant la parcourir à pieds....
Et enfin avec suffisamment d'intérêt pour y passer 5 jours... le tout en automne...
et pour finir en éliminant les villes que vous connaissez déjà...
Franchement avec tous ces paramètres je pense que les membres vous ont fait les seules propositions possibles.
Les villes avec un passé historique réel ont toutes un centre ville à l'européenne, et pour cause... c'était le seul modèle connu au 18ème siècle!
Les villes "modernes" (comme LA, Phoenix, Houston, Dallas, et autres) ne se prêtent pas à une découverte pédestre et qu'y faire pendant 5 jours... à moins d'enchaîner les parcs d'attractions si vous en avez l'âge...
Bon voyage
C'est vrai que cette ville ne m'avait pas été proposée. Suite à votre message je suis allée consulter différents sites et les avis divergent énormément surtout depuis le passage de katrina . Néanmoins me perdre en Louisiane serait assez plaisant !!! Merci de votre aide !
Vous avez parfaitement résumé la difficulté de ma recherche et le pourquoi de ma participation à ce forum ....et ce n'est pas faute d'écouter les propositions de chacun !!!mais je n'arrive pas à obtenir de coup de coeur !!
Je pense retourner à San Francisco dont la visite remonte à 10 ans maisj'ai l'impression de me rappeler tout de cette ville ....Sinon ce sera New York que je connais par coeur mais que j'adore ou Chicago qui m'a laissé un souvenir extraordinaire !!! C'est par exemple cette ville que je voudrais découvrir ailleurs !!!!
Je suis très compliquée !!!! je le sais ..............Néanmoins , merci pour avoir essayé de m'aider !!
On parle rarement de Saint Louis comme destination...c'est pourtant une ville très intéressante. Et à ma grande surprise beaucoup d'attractions gratuites, c'est dans cette ville que j'ai célébré mon 50ème anniversaire et j'en garde un excellent souvenir.
La particularité de Saint Louis est d'être le point de départ de la découverte de l'ouest par les américains et d'être le "centre" des USA. Au moment du début du développement de la ville, les premiers élus ont voulu imiter le "Central Park" de New York et ont ainsi créer le "Forrest Park", aujourd'hui on retrouve dans ce parc le zoo, le musée des beaux-arts, le musée des sciences, le musée de la société d'histoire (ou est conservé la mémoire de la grande exposition universelle de 1904), un terrain de golf, des terrains de tennis et un amphithéatre en plein air ou sont présentés les "broadway show". Toutes ces attractions sont gratuites.
Il y a également la fameuse "Gateway Arch" au pied du Mississipi; la gare ferroviaire situé au "Union Station; le "Old Courthouse"; la visite de la plus grande brasserie au monde "Anheuser Busch" et sa célèbre "Bud" et ses chevaux "Clydesdales"; le merveilleux "Missouri Botanical Garden" et un peu en banlieue la maison de Ulysse Grant ainsi que le "Gran'ts Farm" qui est le cadeau de la famille Busch à la ville de Saint Louis.
En périphérie, les villes de Saint-Charles et de Sainte Geneviève ont un histoire d'origine canadienne française. Et un peu plus loin la région de Branson et ses spectacles vaut le détour, Les outlets sont situés au lac Osage http://www.premiumoutlets.com/outlets/outlet.asp?id=57
Mais en novembre c'est moins intéressant que durant les belles journées d'été.
En passant, c'est la seconde fois que vous palnifiez un court voyage au USA et en discuter sur ce site...la premère fois avez-vous choisi Miami comme destination ???
La particularité de Saint Louis est d'être le point de départ de la découverte de l'ouest par les américains et d'être le "centre" des USA. Au moment du début du développement de la ville, les premiers élus ont voulu imiter le "Central Park" de New York et ont ainsi créer le "Forrest Park", aujourd'hui on retrouve dans ce parc le zoo, le musée des beaux-arts, le musée des sciences, le musée de la société d'histoire (ou est conservé la mémoire de la grande exposition universelle de 1904), un terrain de golf, des terrains de tennis et un amphithéatre en plein air ou sont présentés les "broadway show". Toutes ces attractions sont gratuites.
Il y a également la fameuse "Gateway Arch" au pied du Mississipi; la gare ferroviaire situé au "Union Station; le "Old Courthouse"; la visite de la plus grande brasserie au monde "Anheuser Busch" et sa célèbre "Bud" et ses chevaux "Clydesdales"; le merveilleux "Missouri Botanical Garden" et un peu en banlieue la maison de Ulysse Grant ainsi que le "Gran'ts Farm" qui est le cadeau de la famille Busch à la ville de Saint Louis.
En périphérie, les villes de Saint-Charles et de Sainte Geneviève ont un histoire d'origine canadienne française. Et un peu plus loin la région de Branson et ses spectacles vaut le détour, Les outlets sont situés au lac Osage http://www.premiumoutlets.com/outlets/outlet.asp?id=57
Mais en novembre c'est moins intéressant que durant les belles journées d'été.
En passant, c'est la seconde fois que vous palnifiez un court voyage au USA et en discuter sur ce site...la premère fois avez-vous choisi Miami comme destination ???
expose
Quel observateur !!!
C'est vrai, c'est la deuxième fois que la recherche d'une destination pour les USA se pose à moi. Finalement j'étais allée à Las Végas !! Génial pour les outlet mais un peu moins pour la découverte puisque j'y étais déjà allée l'année précédente...le problème est que pendant plusieurs années j'ai parcouru les USA avec ma fille aînée. Celle-ci devenue maman a laissé la place à ma fille cadette ...mais je n'ai pas trop envie de refaire toutes les villes que j'avais déjà visitées...aussi je recherche la nouveauté !!à allier au plaisir des states !!
je m'en vais de ce pas rechercher des renseignements sur Saint-Louis ....why not ????
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I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!






