Un mois à Moab dans l'Utah
by Indianna
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjour
voila j ai besoin d aides je part a moab dans l utah pour un mois a partir du 23 juillet.
a la base je devait dormir chez un ami et puis sa c est degrader.
de plus je n est pas prie d assurance annulation ba oui la fille de l agence a oublier de me conter les frais d agence resultat l argent que j avais prevue pour l assurance est passer dans les frais.
donc obliger de partir.
mon anglais est pitoresque et j ai pas le permit de conduire enfin la totale quoi.
j ai peur a l heure actuelle je sais toujours pas ou dormir ni koi visiter , je sais meme pas si il y a des bus dans moab comme sur paris je veux dire.
j ai contacter un motel silver sage inn qui me propose la semaine a 375 dollars mais sans la nourriture.
c est cher ou pas?
l ideal serai une chambre d hote mais je sais pas comment chercher.
quelqun peux m aider s il vous plait?
merci a vous
Bonjour,
Rassembler une telle collection de "misères" sur un seul voyage, c'est pas humain !
Le plus facile : des bus à Moab ?? vu qu'il y a une seule grande rue de 15km de long.... ça ne ferait qu'une seule ligne possible - que je n'ai pas vue !
Un mois à Moab , sans voiture, ni possibilité d'en louer une, c'est super galère ! Marcher dans le coin, par 35° à l'ombre.... ça le fait pas ! Et autour de Moab, il y a que dalle sauf les 3 parcs nationaux qui justifient la prospérité de cette "ville-motel" mais infaisable sans voiture.
L'Amérique s'est construite autour de la voiture !
Perso je te conseillerais, non pas d'annuler, mais de changer ton plan : partir 15jours seulement et à San Francisco par ex car cette ville peut très bien se faire sans voiture ! Là ils ont plein de bus, trolley, tram, métro etc 😛
Ton motel à 375$ pour 7 nuits, c'est correct. Pour la nourriture, on trouve partout des restos pas trop chers.
Perso je te conseillerais, non pas d'annuler, mais de changer ton plan : partir 15jours seulement et à San Francisco par ex car cette ville peut très bien se faire sans voiture ! Là ils ont plein de bus, trolley, tram, métro etc 😛
Ton motel à 375$ pour 7 nuits, c'est correct. Pour la nourriture, on trouve partout des restos pas trop chers.
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
merci beaucoup jadorry
je tiendrais compte de tes conseils
bon dimanche
Bonjour,
Tu atteris où ? Las Vegas, San Francisco, Los Angeles ?
As tu une raison d' aller à Moab si tu n'as plus rien à y faire ou personne à y retrouver ?
C'est vraiment un bled paumé et rien à voir où à y faire si tu n'as pas de moyen de locomotion. A part faire des tours organisés, qui pourront t'occuper une semaine disons (et je ne te parle pas du budget !) tu vas t'ennuyer dur !
Dis nous où tu atteris et si vraiment tu dois aller à Moab pour une raison particulière et nous pourrons te faire des suggestions.
bonjour
ba en faite j ai plus rien a y faire puisque la personne que je devait voir ne parle plus .
j atterie a moab et le billet retour est moab/paris.
je stresse beaucoup car je sais ke je vais m ennuyer dur
Désolée que vous vous retrouviez dans une galère pareille 🤪
Comment faites-vous Paris-Moab ? Il y a sûrement deux ou trois correspondances... Vous pourriez laisser tomber la correspondance du dernier gros aéroport (Denver, peut-être ?) vers Moab, et acheter à la place un billet Denver-San Francisco. En Californie, vous devriez pouvoir vous débrouiller pour visiter un peu en bus, d'autant que vous avez le temps. Descendez jusqu'à LA et reprenez l'avion LA-Denver, puis Paris.
Comment faites-vous Paris-Moab ? Il y a sûrement deux ou trois correspondances... Vous pourriez laisser tomber la correspondance du dernier gros aéroport (Denver, peut-être ?) vers Moab, et acheter à la place un billet Denver-San Francisco. En Californie, vous devriez pouvoir vous débrouiller pour visiter un peu en bus, d'autant que vous avez le temps. Descendez jusqu'à LA et reprenez l'avion LA-Denver, puis Paris.
Circuit dans l'Ouest : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2744058
Floride-Louisiane : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=3536861
Une semaine à New York : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=4550454
New York, again http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5593646
merci a vous c est gentil.
oui mon escale est a denver(15h)
j ai prie mon billet a l agence de voyage leclerc je ne sais pas si je peux changer.
pffff je suis vraiment inconsciente des foies.
Bonjour,
Tu es vraiment sûre d'atterrir à Moab ? Il y a bien des vols Paris - escale US - Denver - Moab, mais c'est un trajet qui coûte cher ! Cependant, il y a moyen de quitter Moab sans voiture : soit tu reprends l'avion vers Denver, d'où tu as accès à de nombreuses villes des USA, soit tu rejoins Green River ou Grand Junction (il y a des navettes) d'où tu peux prendre le train vers San Francisco ou Chicago ( ~ 2 jours de train, mais moins cher). Bon courage...
Tu es vraiment sûre d'atterrir à Moab ? Il y a bien des vols Paris - escale US - Denver - Moab, mais c'est un trajet qui coûte cher ! Cependant, il y a moyen de quitter Moab sans voiture : soit tu reprends l'avion vers Denver, d'où tu as accès à de nombreuses villes des USA, soit tu rejoins Green River ou Grand Junction (il y a des navettes) d'où tu peux prendre le train vers San Francisco ou Chicago ( ~ 2 jours de train, mais moins cher). Bon courage...
Changer, je ne crois pas.
Ce que je veux dire, c'est que vous pourriez laisser tomber purement et simplement cette partie du billet, et ne jamais aller à Moab. Et acheter à part un billet Denver-San Francisco, LA-Denver.
Circuit dans l'Ouest : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2744058
Floride-Louisiane : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=3536861
Une semaine à New York : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=4550454
New York, again http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=5593646
Bonjour Indianna ,
Tu commences à m'inquieter toi ! !😕 déja tu peux revoir ton agence sur place et expliquer ton probléme . peut être qu'ils vont te proposer quelque chose . ensuite as tu le budget nécèssaires pour 1 mois ?
clam, http://www.photosmondevoyages.book.fr
Tu commences à m'inquieter toi ! !😕 déja tu peux revoir ton agence sur place et expliquer ton probléme . peut être qu'ils vont te proposer quelque chose . ensuite as tu le budget nécèssaires pour 1 mois ?
clam, http://www.photosmondevoyages.book.fr
Bonjour,
Mon post va peut être te rassurer un peu. 🙂 Il doit y avoir moyen de survivre à Moab toute seule, sans voiture, ce sera de plus un très bon moyen de pratiquer assidûment l'anglais en étant bien obligée de t'y mettre. 😉 Si tu parles l'espagnol, tu peux aussi très facilement te débrouiller avec cette langue sur place.
Je pense que sur Moab tu dois pouvoir arriver à te débrouiller sans voiture si tu as un peu le sens du contact. C'est plein de touristes, dont des françophones, il doit y avoir moyen d'en "accoster" dans les hôtels ou au Visitor Center et leur demander de te faire une petite place dans leur véhicule et t'acheminer un coup à Arches, un coup (ou pluieurs) à Canyonsland, à Dead Horse Point, faire les routes Scénic des environs... Tu pourras leur offrir le repas du soir en échange au resto. 😉
Sinon, toujours sur Moab, tu as des sociétés qui proposent des ballades en 4x4, en rafting, en hélico, ... Mais je ne connais pas ton budget. Quoiqu'il en soit le Visitor Center pourra t'aider à t'organiser sur place.
Pour quitter Moab sans voiture, consulte le site http://www.discovermoab.com et plus particulièrement la partie "transportation" : http://www.discovermoab.com/transportation.htm qui va te renvoyer vers des liens pour : - l'aéroport (airline service) et les navettes (shuttle) qui te permettront de rejoindre Moab ville, - services de navette ou taxi (shuttle et taxi service) qui te permettront de rejoindre la ville de Green River, - services de bus (Gryhound) et trains (Amtrak) qui indiquent qu'il y a des départ depuis la ville de Green River située à 50 miles de Moab.
Il paraît que prendre le train aux Etats-Unis est une expérience qui vaut le coup, qui permet d'en prendre plein les yeux http://www.amtrak.com. Pour les bus Greyhound http://www.greyhound.com/home/ un forumeur http://voyageforum.com/v.f?membre=nono31 a traversé les Etats-Unis de cette façon là, il te sera sûrement de bons conseils, son post sur le sujet http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2446349 et son blog http://roadtrip-accross-usa.travelblog.fr.
Tu trouveras donc le moyen de pourvoir partir de Moab et y revenir et de visiter la région alentour. Par contre, cela va te demander de bien étudier tes déplacements.
Tu peux aussi lancer un appel sur ce forum du style "cherche compagnon de voyage ayant le permis" sur ce forum. 😉
Bonne préparation.
Mon post va peut être te rassurer un peu. 🙂 Il doit y avoir moyen de survivre à Moab toute seule, sans voiture, ce sera de plus un très bon moyen de pratiquer assidûment l'anglais en étant bien obligée de t'y mettre. 😉 Si tu parles l'espagnol, tu peux aussi très facilement te débrouiller avec cette langue sur place.
Je pense que sur Moab tu dois pouvoir arriver à te débrouiller sans voiture si tu as un peu le sens du contact. C'est plein de touristes, dont des françophones, il doit y avoir moyen d'en "accoster" dans les hôtels ou au Visitor Center et leur demander de te faire une petite place dans leur véhicule et t'acheminer un coup à Arches, un coup (ou pluieurs) à Canyonsland, à Dead Horse Point, faire les routes Scénic des environs... Tu pourras leur offrir le repas du soir en échange au resto. 😉
Sinon, toujours sur Moab, tu as des sociétés qui proposent des ballades en 4x4, en rafting, en hélico, ... Mais je ne connais pas ton budget. Quoiqu'il en soit le Visitor Center pourra t'aider à t'organiser sur place.
Pour quitter Moab sans voiture, consulte le site http://www.discovermoab.com et plus particulièrement la partie "transportation" : http://www.discovermoab.com/transportation.htm qui va te renvoyer vers des liens pour : - l'aéroport (airline service) et les navettes (shuttle) qui te permettront de rejoindre Moab ville, - services de navette ou taxi (shuttle et taxi service) qui te permettront de rejoindre la ville de Green River, - services de bus (Gryhound) et trains (Amtrak) qui indiquent qu'il y a des départ depuis la ville de Green River située à 50 miles de Moab.
Il paraît que prendre le train aux Etats-Unis est une expérience qui vaut le coup, qui permet d'en prendre plein les yeux http://www.amtrak.com. Pour les bus Greyhound http://www.greyhound.com/home/ un forumeur http://voyageforum.com/v.f?membre=nono31 a traversé les Etats-Unis de cette façon là, il te sera sûrement de bons conseils, son post sur le sujet http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2446349 et son blog http://roadtrip-accross-usa.travelblog.fr.
Tu trouveras donc le moyen de pourvoir partir de Moab et y revenir et de visiter la région alentour. Par contre, cela va te demander de bien étudier tes déplacements.
Tu peux aussi lancer un appel sur ce forum du style "cherche compagnon de voyage ayant le permis" sur ce forum. 😉
Bonne préparation.
Quelques paysages panoramiques de notre voyage "USA 2008" : http://patrick.azay.free.fr
Le blog de notre voyage "USA 2009" : http://patrick.azay.free.fr/Wordpress/
Quitter le sol et tout devient accessible !!!
Bonjour,
A tout hasard pour un peu d'inspiration.... car j'ai une vague idée que tu veux encore aller à Moab.... des fois que le "quelqu'un".....
donc regarde ici :
http://www.ledem.net/blog/?m=200901 et tu verras Moab et ses parcs !
http://www.ledem.net/blog/?m=200901 et tu verras Moab et ses parcs !
Si vous ne réussissez jamais rien du premier coup, n'essayez pas le parachutisme !
salut jacques
Rare sons les photos prisent en hiver je dois avouer que certaines photos sont magnifiques J'espère quand même que les déboires de notre amie se tranformera pas en cauchemar Car sans voiture........
Rare sons les photos prisent en hiver je dois avouer que certaines photos sont magnifiques J'espère quand même que les déboires de notre amie se tranformera pas en cauchemar Car sans voiture........
Jean-Marie
bonjour
dsl je pouvait plus poster apparement j avait atteint mon cota de reponse.
je vais contacter mon agence de voyage pour savoir si je peux annuler mon voyage meme en ayant prie l assurance.
partir seule ne me dit rien du tout.
au pire si je doit partir je tiendrais note de vos judicieux conseil merci a vous tous et bonne soiree
Hi,
Je pense que ton dernier choix semble raisonnable et à moindre perte. En effet, en admettant que tu te rendes à San Francisco via Denver (ceci étant, Denver n'est pas sans intéret sur quelques jours). Ce qui me perturbe, c'est tout simplement ton budget, un mois dans une ville comme Frisco peut te couter les deux bras, sans compter qu'outre le logement tu devras te déplacer et aller parfois assez loin (Yosémite, Monterrey) pour de temps en temps changer d'air, donc rebelotte avec le logement, et sans permis tu devras stationner en ville où au coeur des parcs ce qui veux dire $$$. Donc, logement + bouffe (c'est pas le plus cher certes, mais sans "maison", c'est peu de choix donc lassant et psychologiquement, c'est con mais ça compte) + déplacement et divers faux frais, en Californie, ça monte assez vite. Voilà de quoi te dégoutter des USA, ce serait dommage vu la fête que tu te faisait d'y aller. Et franchement, le jour où tu peux retourner sur Moab dans des conditions "viables" tu apprécieras d'autant cette extraordinaire région (pendant 3, 4 jours maxi)
Peut être peut tu négocier ta formule avec ton agence et pour moindre coût rebasculer sur un séjour "groupe" voire reporter, raccourcir etc...
Je te dis M.... pour la suite, et j'espère bien à bientôt sur "Forum" pour te conseiller dans ton séjour tant attendu et dans des conditions optimales.
Hee Haw
Je pense que ton dernier choix semble raisonnable et à moindre perte. En effet, en admettant que tu te rendes à San Francisco via Denver (ceci étant, Denver n'est pas sans intéret sur quelques jours). Ce qui me perturbe, c'est tout simplement ton budget, un mois dans une ville comme Frisco peut te couter les deux bras, sans compter qu'outre le logement tu devras te déplacer et aller parfois assez loin (Yosémite, Monterrey) pour de temps en temps changer d'air, donc rebelotte avec le logement, et sans permis tu devras stationner en ville où au coeur des parcs ce qui veux dire $$$. Donc, logement + bouffe (c'est pas le plus cher certes, mais sans "maison", c'est peu de choix donc lassant et psychologiquement, c'est con mais ça compte) + déplacement et divers faux frais, en Californie, ça monte assez vite. Voilà de quoi te dégoutter des USA, ce serait dommage vu la fête que tu te faisait d'y aller. Et franchement, le jour où tu peux retourner sur Moab dans des conditions "viables" tu apprécieras d'autant cette extraordinaire région (pendant 3, 4 jours maxi)
Peut être peut tu négocier ta formule avec ton agence et pour moindre coût rebasculer sur un séjour "groupe" voire reporter, raccourcir etc...
Je te dis M.... pour la suite, et j'espère bien à bientôt sur "Forum" pour te conseiller dans ton séjour tant attendu et dans des conditions optimales.
Hee Haw
koukou
ba voila c est fait j ai annuler le billet d avion j ai juste 130€ de frais mais je m en fou je trouve cela plus prudent.
en tout cas merci beaucoup a vous.
vous m avez beaucoup aider.
prenez soin de vous tous a bientot.
oui c est vrai je referai bien le mexique une troisieme foie haha, car les iles c est trop cher.
bonne apres midi
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I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Merci de me conseiller pour la réservation pour la plus belle vue faut il réserver une chambre dans l'hôtel ou choisir une cabane ?
Prendre le petit déjeuner ou pas ?
Que pensez vous du restaurant ?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
Hello,
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan






