Sud Dakota et Wyoming en août 2010
by Vath
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Je suis en train de préparer mon prochain voyage Août 2010.
Les états visités seront le Sud Dakota et le Wyoming.
Nous voyagerons avec 2 enfants : 6 ans et 11 ans
Voici quelques questions :
Quelles sont les températures en été pour ces 2 états ?
Car je veux faire une selection des hôtes avec piscine intérieure ou extérieure.
De plus, est ce que la boucle Denver + visite Dakota du Sud+ Visite Wyoming et retour par Salt lake city est-elle logique ?
Est ce que les routes et paysages sont monotones ?
Pouvez vous m'indiquer les sites impératifs à visiter avec 2 enfants.
Nous avons déjà fait Utah, Nevada, Arizona et Californie cet été.
Avez vous de bonnes adresses pour les hôtes ou ranchs ?
Quelles sont les activités à faire avec des enfants hormis les visites.
merci bcp pour votre aide.
A plus
ps : Je peux échanger des conseils pour les autres états.
slts
Vath
bonjour,
une telle boucle me parait possible, nous avons visité ces etats plus le montana en 2007 en camping car avec trois enfants en 28 jours
nous avons beaucoup souffert de la chaleur mais c'etait une année canicule, pas une goutte de pluie.
le south dakota est très chaud, mais authentique ;
cette boucle nous a enchanté, nous y repartons nous aussi en 2010, en randonnant davantage dans le yellowstone et avec l'idaho, l oregon, on ne sait pas trop encore
je vous déconseille de prevoir du temps dans les villes de Denver et salt lake, rien de particulier
je vous recommande tout dans le yellowstone, le grandteton, cheyenne et ses frontiers days, deadwood, les black ills, les badlands, bubois, cody, estes park, devils's tower, le site de custer battlefied, ;;; et je passe tous les paysages du wyoming dès que l'on s'écarte des zones très touristiques, des paysages et une ambiance super;il i a moins de monde que dans les parks du sud, mais c'est grandiose aussi et en plein dans h'histoire de l'ouest Si vous vous interressez au south dakota, interessez vous à DAN O'BRIEN qui a un ranch de bisons et un site internet(cowboy qui travaille dans le respect de l'ecologie et en partenariat avec des indiens), nous avons lu son bouquin traduite en francais, et je pense que sa région est sympa
en tout cas vous ne serz pas déçu par ce voyage
A +
MARIELLE
Je suis en train d'envisager le même voyage, à la même période.
As tu déjà regardé au niveau des billets d'avion ?
J'ai lu qu'il fallait réserver très trop pour Yellowstone, sans être non pus complètement parano, quand penses-tu faire tes réservations ( si tu dors dans le parc bien sur !)
Je me pose à peu près les mêmes questions que toi.
a bientôt
On me l'a souvent dit, et les photos ? Ben moi je filme !!!
Bonjour,
Les billets sont en vente seulement 1 an et l'avance.
J'ai regardé pour la même période cette année et il faut compter pour 2 adultes et 2 enfants de 5 et 10 ans env 3900 euros ttc pour Paris-Denver et Salt lake-Paris.
En ce qui concerne les réservations, je vais m'y prendre au mois d'Oct 2009 dès que j'ai les billets.
En effet, c'est seulement une réservation pour les hôtels avec ta carte de crédit et cela n'engage à rien car les annulations peuvent être faites jusqu'à 72 heures avant la date d'arrivée prévue.
As tu déjà pensé à ton budget ?
A plus pour échanges d'info.
bye
Vath
Bonjour Marielle
Merci pour les infos.
peut-on visiter le ranch de Mr Dan O Brien ?
En ce qui concerne le camping-car :
Est-ce facile pour trouver un emplacement ?
Est- ce facile pour circuler et se garer dans les gdes villes ?
N'y a t'il pas trop de contraintes pour l'eau et l'évacuation des eaux usagées ?
Combien faut-il compter pour la location ?
En ce qui concerne les villes, peux tu stp me faire passer ton dernier itinéraire.
merci bcp pour ton aide.
Nous connaissons bien les états de Californie, Utah, Nevada et Arizona
alors h'hésite pas si besoin d'infos
bye
vath
Je pense procéder à peu près comme toi.
Comme vols prévoyant de faire, Lyon-Denver, puis SLC-New-York, puis New-York Lyon, avec une simulation sur cette année ( moi j'ai des ados 15 -17 ) j'en suis à 4700 €.
Fort de l'expérience d'un voyage dans les parcs de l'ouest en 2006, pour 3 semaines en faisant suivant nos envies, je table sur 10000 € ( je compte tout, passeport, tirages photos papiers, etc...). Si j'arrive à moins, tant mieux, mais je préfère pas me priver.
a+
On me l'a souvent dit, et les photos ? Ben moi je filme !!!
Nous sommes partis en Août 08 dans le sud Ouest 21 jours et voici nos dépenses en euros :
vol : 4175
guides/cartes : 50
passeport : 120
hotels : 2750
location 4x4 : 1000
essence : 500
entrées parcs attractions :343
entrées parc nationnaux : 35
excursions diverses (hélico gd canyon, hydravion SF, ....) : 1100
Faux frais : 900
Nourriture : 2200
total : 13173
ps : nous aurions pu écomiser sur les hôtels à SF, San Diego et Venice car nous avons pris du ht de gamme pour avoir une super situation en bord d'océan. Nous avons aussi bcp investi en appareil photo/nintendo/mp3..... Les excursions en hélico et avion étaient aussi super chères mais quels souvenirs....
Le futur budget sera bcp moins important. Je veux aussi arriver à 10 000euros. Je pense que c'est réalisable en économisant sur les hôtels (sauf Yellowstone) et les faux frais. Pour la nourriture il faut bien compter cela pour 4 personnes en sachant que nous pique-niquions à midi afin de manger le plus sainement possible Tu prends rapidement des kgs...... mais les vrais hamburgers sont tellement bons....
Depuis, j'ai un peu avancé sur l'itinéraire :
Lyon/Paris/Denver Denver/cheyenne pour les frontiers days + visite Laramie/medicine Bow/ranch de bisons Cheyenne/custer visites : Mt Rushmore/Keystone/Badlands/réserver Indiens et black ills Custer/deadwood en faisant une halte à Sturgis car Début Aôut 2010 c'est les 70 ans des superbikers Deadwood (nota : il y a le restaurant de Kevin Costner) + visite Devils Tower Sheridan + visite réserve indien + little big horn Cody voir pour descendre sur Thermopolis pour les sources chaudes Par Yellowstone sur 2.3 jours Grand Teton avec arrêt de 2.3 jours pour faire rafting et ballades Jackson (les hôtels sont super chers) puis retour sur Salt lake avec visite du gd lac salé
Pour les activités avec enfants: Je prévois : visite de ranch/frontiers days à Cheyenne/rodéo/ballade en chariot pour 2 jours/Medicine wheel rafting/visite des réserves indiennes
Si tu as d'autres idées, je suis à ton écoute.
Pour Thermopolis, je ne suis pas sûre que cela soit top... A voir
A bientôt Vath
ps : nous aurions pu écomiser sur les hôtels à SF, San Diego et Venice car nous avons pris du ht de gamme pour avoir une super situation en bord d'océan. Nous avons aussi bcp investi en appareil photo/nintendo/mp3..... Les excursions en hélico et avion étaient aussi super chères mais quels souvenirs....
Le futur budget sera bcp moins important. Je veux aussi arriver à 10 000euros. Je pense que c'est réalisable en économisant sur les hôtels (sauf Yellowstone) et les faux frais. Pour la nourriture il faut bien compter cela pour 4 personnes en sachant que nous pique-niquions à midi afin de manger le plus sainement possible Tu prends rapidement des kgs...... mais les vrais hamburgers sont tellement bons....
Depuis, j'ai un peu avancé sur l'itinéraire :
Lyon/Paris/Denver Denver/cheyenne pour les frontiers days + visite Laramie/medicine Bow/ranch de bisons Cheyenne/custer visites : Mt Rushmore/Keystone/Badlands/réserver Indiens et black ills Custer/deadwood en faisant une halte à Sturgis car Début Aôut 2010 c'est les 70 ans des superbikers Deadwood (nota : il y a le restaurant de Kevin Costner) + visite Devils Tower Sheridan + visite réserve indien + little big horn Cody voir pour descendre sur Thermopolis pour les sources chaudes Par Yellowstone sur 2.3 jours Grand Teton avec arrêt de 2.3 jours pour faire rafting et ballades Jackson (les hôtels sont super chers) puis retour sur Salt lake avec visite du gd lac salé
Pour les activités avec enfants: Je prévois : visite de ranch/frontiers days à Cheyenne/rodéo/ballade en chariot pour 2 jours/Medicine wheel rafting/visite des réserves indiennes
Si tu as d'autres idées, je suis à ton écoute.
Pour Thermopolis, je ne suis pas sûre que cela soit top... A voir
A bientôt Vath
bonjour,
nous allons faire une boucle denver-denver cet été en juillet avec 2 enfants (4 et 7 ans)
dans mes questions, j'hésite à dormir à cheyenne. Y A t il des choses à faire toute la journée avec des enfants?
Avez vous trouvé des endroits pour vous baigner genre riviere ou lac? surtout s'il fait tres chaud
J'hesite à passer par salt lake city ou vernal? Qu'en pensez vous
merci
nath,
préparer les voyages c'est déjà voyager, trier les photos et faire des carnets c'est encore voyager, ben alors je voyage tout le temps!
Pour Cheyenne, pendant les frontier days, c'est l'euphorie pour les enfants(powwow, manèges, rodeos, parades, country etcc) en dehors de la période, je pense que la ville est moins interessante(à part le magasin WRANGLER que je recommande), autant ne pas y dormir;pour les enfants, on a trouvé pas mal de lacs, rivières, etc mais prevoir des chaussures type canyoning(cailloux eau froide) etc)pour les villes, aucun problème pour circuler même avec un grand camping car sauf Deadwood ou l'on s'arrête autour et des navettes circulent jour et nuit pour amener au centre
pour Denver, on s'est garer assez près du centre mais à part du shopping, les enfants n'ont pas aimé
les villes qui leur ont plus c'est DUBOIS très western proche du yellowstone, avec soiree barbecue et country le jeudi soir, cheyenne pour les cowboys, et Deadwood bien sûr très animée
entre SALT LAKE et vernal avec dinosaur park, avec des enfants, je prendrai vernal, sans hésiter
dans le rockynational park, vous trouverez pas mal de petites randonnées accessibles avec les enfants, des activités mais la chaleur n'est pas garantie (2007 fut année caniculaire)Allez vers stemboat springs pour sources eau chaude, ils adoreront
MARIELLE
SALUT,
bon pour le camping car, je repasserai par CAMPING CAR ON LINE j'évalue à 2900E mais attention pour cinq personnes (un très grand) et 30 jours avec KM ILLIMITE et assurances
nous sommes passés partout avec auparavant, y compris dans toutes les villes, sauf deadwood (voir ma réponse à nath)
le ranch d 'o brien se visite, mais d'ailleurs les locaux (loin des parcs) ne se font pas prier pour inviter sur leurs terres ou a des barbecues, nous avons même eu un rancher for breakfast dans le camping car, il nous avait donné l'autorisation de se mettre sur ses terres pour pique-niquer..;;
nous avons généralement évité toutes les villes, nous sommes par des routes souvent secondaires, y compris la réserve de PINE RIDGE dans le south dakota(lakotas)
je recherche precisement notre itinéraire et te l'envoir rapidement
marielle
Je vois qu'on part sur les mêmes bases.
Mon projet est pour le moment celui qui suit, mais beaucoup de choses vont évoluer d'ici là.
Lyon – Denver
Denver – Golden
Grand Lake
Rocky Mountains
Cheyenne
Fort Laramie
( Mont Rushmore + Caves + Custer park )
Keystone ( Badlands )
Deadwood - Devil’s Tower
Sheridan
Cody
Yellowstone (au moins 4 jours)
Jackson Hole
Salt Lake City
New-York (4 jours)
Lyon.
Je compte sur les échanges pour trouver des idées a+
Je compte sur les échanges pour trouver des idées a+
On me l'a souvent dit, et les photos ? Ben moi je filme !!!
Golden : Je pense qu'après la première nuit à Denver, on ne va pas y rester, sauf si des infos tombent ou que je trouve des choses à faire, donc j'ai vu que vers Golden il y avait le musée Buffalo Bill, une très belle route qui y mène, la brasserie Coors et c'est sur la route pour aller sur Grand lake qui sera le lieu d'au moins la deuxième nuit.
New York : je ne m'y suis pas plongé, mais c'est vrai que cela sera la première fois et donc je vais surement solliciter des infos.
a+
On me l'a souvent dit, et les photos ? Ben moi je filme !!!
Pour nous ce sera du 1 au 23 juillet 2009
Voyage n°2 dans l'ouest, et en famille (2 garçons: 4 et 7 ans)
J1: arrivé à denver, nuit à golden j2: nuit à grand junction J3: colorado NM, route pour moab par cisco nuit moab (motel avec piscine) J4 arches nuit moab J5 island in the sky nuit moab J6: route pour vernal ou salt lake city J7: selon le choix ci dessus J8: route nuit àjackson (cabine reservé au KOA) J9: grand teeton, balade lake jenny bateau, nuit grant à yellowstone J10 yellowstone nuit canyon J11yellowstone nuit canyon J12yellowstone nuit canyon J13 yellowstone, rodeo nuit cody (cabine reservé au KOA) J14 route, bighorn canyon nuit sheridan J15 devil's tower, rushmore, nuit rapid city (cabine reservé au KOA) J16: badlands nuit rapid city (cabine reservé au KOA) J17 : custer parc, wind cave nuit hot spring (cabine reservé au KOA) J18: route par fort laramie nuit cheyenne J19 festival à cheyenne, nuit cheyenne J 21 route, nuit denver J22 visite denver (musée, fabrique monnaie, centre pietonnier) nuit denver J23 retour maison
J1: arrivé à denver, nuit à golden j2: nuit à grand junction J3: colorado NM, route pour moab par cisco nuit moab (motel avec piscine) J4 arches nuit moab J5 island in the sky nuit moab J6: route pour vernal ou salt lake city J7: selon le choix ci dessus J8: route nuit àjackson (cabine reservé au KOA) J9: grand teeton, balade lake jenny bateau, nuit grant à yellowstone J10 yellowstone nuit canyon J11yellowstone nuit canyon J12yellowstone nuit canyon J13 yellowstone, rodeo nuit cody (cabine reservé au KOA) J14 route, bighorn canyon nuit sheridan J15 devil's tower, rushmore, nuit rapid city (cabine reservé au KOA) J16: badlands nuit rapid city (cabine reservé au KOA) J17 : custer parc, wind cave nuit hot spring (cabine reservé au KOA) J18: route par fort laramie nuit cheyenne J19 festival à cheyenne, nuit cheyenne J 21 route, nuit denver J22 visite denver (musée, fabrique monnaie, centre pietonnier) nuit denver J23 retour maison
nath,
préparer les voyages c'est déjà voyager, trier les photos et faire des carnets c'est encore voyager, ben alors je voyage tout le temps!
J'ai vu que la brasserie Coors était la plus grande du monde, donc cela peut être intéressant de voir cela. Comment travaille une entreprise américaine peut être enrichissant dans un voyage, en tout cas personnellement, je cherche toujours à découvrir un maximum d'aspect dans la visite d'un pays ( lieux, rencontres avec les gens, façons de vivre, etc..).
Au niveau des hôtels, je n'ai pas vraiment cherché. Par rapport à mon précédent voyage aux USA, j'ai su très vite que je voulais dormir au Goulding's à Monument Valley, au bord du grand canyon . Ici ma seule certitude est de dormir près de Old faithfull lors de la période Yellowstone, ensuite, la priorité sera de fixer le trajet de manière plus précise.
Un fil rouge : essayer de trouver des hôtels avec piscine, car j'avais beaucoup apprécié lors de mon voyage précédent, d'arriver vers 17h30 le soir, et de faire trempette, souvent en rencontrant des touristes et en échangeant des anecdotes. Je sais de plus que mes ados apprécient.
Par contre une question me vient à l'esprit :
Autant autour des parcs de l'ouest, on savait que l'on pouvait se baigner, car la température était comme il fallait. Qu'en est-il de la température dans le Wyoming, le long du parcours ?
a+
On me l'a souvent dit, et les photos ? Ben moi je filme !!!
hello,
non désolée, les invitations que nous avons eu étaient des invitations personnelles faites lors de rencontres
mais il y a des ranchs qui sont ouverts aux touristes, il y a des panneaux à l'entrée (il suffit de prendre patience; car l'entrée peut être au bout de nombreux kilomètres), ou de demander dans les offices de tourisme)
marielle
Bj,
Si je peux me permettre de te donner un avis ( tu en fais ce que tu veux) - tu peux récuperer 1 nuit entre le jour 14-15-16 et ne pas dormir à Rapid City ou il n'y a rien - j'ai été très surprise quand j'y suis passée - et dormir 1 nuit plutot à Custer - Badlands tu le fais en 1 matinée ou 1 après midi selon ton emplois du temps - Rushmore ca va assez vite aussi - le state park Custer est très sympa mais surtout la partie nord - tu y rencontreras des bisons- (j'ai du fermer la vitre de la voiture quand nous y sommes passés tellement ces bisons étaient près- d'ailleurs les rangers sont venus pour les faire circuler)- donc si tu gagnes un jour par là, tu pourrais après Cheyenne faire le Rocky Nl Park où vous aurez l'occasion de voir des animaux- aussi promenades sympa à faire et lacs a voir- et rentrer ensuite à Denver- par Gd Lakes- Pour ma part, j'avais fait ce trajet en partant de Denver -Rocky Nt Park et Frontier Days et la suite ... Ce n'est qu'une idée bien sur -à toi de voir - Bon week end Martine
Si je peux me permettre de te donner un avis ( tu en fais ce que tu veux) - tu peux récuperer 1 nuit entre le jour 14-15-16 et ne pas dormir à Rapid City ou il n'y a rien - j'ai été très surprise quand j'y suis passée - et dormir 1 nuit plutot à Custer - Badlands tu le fais en 1 matinée ou 1 après midi selon ton emplois du temps - Rushmore ca va assez vite aussi - le state park Custer est très sympa mais surtout la partie nord - tu y rencontreras des bisons- (j'ai du fermer la vitre de la voiture quand nous y sommes passés tellement ces bisons étaient près- d'ailleurs les rangers sont venus pour les faire circuler)- donc si tu gagnes un jour par là, tu pourrais après Cheyenne faire le Rocky Nl Park où vous aurez l'occasion de voir des animaux- aussi promenades sympa à faire et lacs a voir- et rentrer ensuite à Denver- par Gd Lakes- Pour ma part, j'avais fait ce trajet en partant de Denver -Rocky Nt Park et Frontier Days et la suite ... Ce n'est qu'une idée bien sur -à toi de voir - Bon week end Martine
Bonjour,
Avis à tous les amateurs de ranchs au Wyoming.
Cannaissez-vous une adresse sympa pour passer 2.3 jours dans un ranch afin de montrer à mes enfants (6 et 11ans ) la vraie vie dans un ranch + repas.
merci bcp
ps ; je trouve que des adresses de Dude Ranch avec des séjours minimum de 6 jours et à des prix très élévés
Bye
Vath
Hello,
Pour les enfants je vous conseille vivement le yellowstone : bisons, wapittis, coyotte, aigles... En été il peut faire très chaud 30° mais les nuits peuvent être fraîches car l'altitude est élevée souvent 1500m voire 2000m. Le mont RUSHMORE, LA DEVILS TOWER Je vous conseille le LAKE RANCH à Yulett (wyoming) à côté de la devils tower, pour y avoir passé de très agréables vacances. Deadwood et ses casinos Badlands et black hills
Bonnes vacances
Pour les enfants je vous conseille vivement le yellowstone : bisons, wapittis, coyotte, aigles... En été il peut faire très chaud 30° mais les nuits peuvent être fraîches car l'altitude est élevée souvent 1500m voire 2000m. Le mont RUSHMORE, LA DEVILS TOWER Je vous conseille le LAKE RANCH à Yulett (wyoming) à côté de la devils tower, pour y avoir passé de très agréables vacances. Deadwood et ses casinos Badlands et black hills
Bonnes vacances
Je relance la discussion, ca depuis mars peu de réponses et je suis en train de me relancer dans mon projet.
Le parcours : peu d'évolution mais des questions
Jour 1 : Lyon – Denver
Jour 2 : Denver – Georgetown – Grand Lake
Visite rapide de la ville, le magasin de sports dont j'ai oublié le nom, puis route vers Grand Lake avec un petit détour vers Georgetown apparemment un coin joli.
Jour 3 : Rocky Mountains - Cheyenne
Quelques petites randos simples ( conseils ?) puis route vers Cheyenne ( frontiers days ? je ne sais pas quand partir exactement )
Jour 4 : Cheyenne – Fort Laramie- Custer
Visite du fort pour casser la route ! Custer semble être un bon endroit pour rayonner ( merci Zitounet)
Jour 5 : Custer( Mont Rushmore + Caves + Custer park )
RAS si ce n'est Rushmore le matin pour les photos
Jour 6 : Custer ( Badlands - Rapid City )
Il y a un grand magasin pas très loin je crois.
Jour 7 : Custer –Deadwood - Devil’s Tower – Sheridan
Il y a une belle route parait-il vers Spearfish ?
Jour 8 : Sheridan - Cody
Le bighorn canyon vaut-il le coup ? A quelle heure pour un rodéo ?
Jour 9 : Cody – Yellowstone
J'ai pas encore étudié Yellowstone plus précisément
Jour 10 : Yellowstone
Jour 11: Yellowstone
Jour 12 : Yellowstone
Jour 13 : Yellowstone - Jackson Hole
Jour 14 : Jackson Hole
Raft sur la snake river
Jour 15 : Jackson Hole –Salt Lake City
Craters of the moon ?
Jour 16 : Visite de Salt Lake City
Lac salé ?
Jour 17 : Salt Lake City - New-York
J'ai pas encore étudié New York plus précisément
Jour 18 : New-York
Jour 19 : New-York
Jour 20 : New-York Jour 21 : New-York - Lyon
Merci à tous ceux qui auront le courage de me lire a+
Jour 1 : Lyon – Denver
Jour 2 : Denver – Georgetown – Grand Lake
Visite rapide de la ville, le magasin de sports dont j'ai oublié le nom, puis route vers Grand Lake avec un petit détour vers Georgetown apparemment un coin joli.
Jour 3 : Rocky Mountains - Cheyenne
Quelques petites randos simples ( conseils ?) puis route vers Cheyenne ( frontiers days ? je ne sais pas quand partir exactement )
Jour 4 : Cheyenne – Fort Laramie- Custer
Visite du fort pour casser la route ! Custer semble être un bon endroit pour rayonner ( merci Zitounet)
Jour 5 : Custer( Mont Rushmore + Caves + Custer park )
RAS si ce n'est Rushmore le matin pour les photos
Jour 6 : Custer ( Badlands - Rapid City )
Il y a un grand magasin pas très loin je crois.
Jour 7 : Custer –Deadwood - Devil’s Tower – Sheridan
Il y a une belle route parait-il vers Spearfish ?
Jour 8 : Sheridan - Cody
Le bighorn canyon vaut-il le coup ? A quelle heure pour un rodéo ?
Jour 9 : Cody – Yellowstone
J'ai pas encore étudié Yellowstone plus précisément
Jour 10 : Yellowstone
Jour 11: Yellowstone
Jour 12 : Yellowstone
Jour 13 : Yellowstone - Jackson Hole
Jour 14 : Jackson Hole
Raft sur la snake river
Jour 15 : Jackson Hole –Salt Lake City
Craters of the moon ?
Jour 16 : Visite de Salt Lake City
Lac salé ?
Jour 17 : Salt Lake City - New-York
J'ai pas encore étudié New York plus précisément
Jour 18 : New-York
Jour 19 : New-York
Jour 20 : New-York Jour 21 : New-York - Lyon
Merci à tous ceux qui auront le courage de me lire a+
On me l'a souvent dit, et les photos ? Ben moi je filme !!!
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We’ll adapt day by day based on our mental and physical state (we’re not exactly spring chickens).
Return to France: Dallas-Montpellier via CDG.
Cheers!
hi everyone
I’m planning a world trip and I’m looking for great tips on accommodation in the United States.
Do you have any good deals to share, please?
thanks
Hello everyone! Really damaged due to flooding caused by runoff after forest fires (a total mess!), does anyone in this friendly forum have any updates on the Apache Trail between Apache Junction and Roosevelt Dam? Is there still a section of the road that’s tough to navigate?
Best,
Best,
Hi there,
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary. Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between: - The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc. - The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road. Thanks for your input!
Laura
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary. Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between: - The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc. - The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road. Thanks for your input!
Laura
Hi everyone! 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
Hi there,
We’re heading to Las Vegas this summer and would love to rent a classic convertible Cadillac or something similar. Any recommendations? Thanks.
We’re heading to Las Vegas this summer and would love to rent a classic convertible Cadillac or something similar. Any recommendations? Thanks.
Hello everyone,
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly! Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly! Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Thanks in advance for your feedback😉
Hi everyone! 🙂
Just a quick question about King Canyon and Sequoia National Park.
Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!