J’ai acheté un voyage en circuit pour début mars dans le Yunan. Je n’ai aucune nouvelle du Tour Opérateur, et ne trouve pas d’informations fraîches sur la question de partir ou pas.
Faut il mieux attendre que mon voyagiste annule ce voyage, ou faut il lui faire savoir que l’on ne part pas compte tenu du risque encouru.
Ceci peut avoir une incidence sur le coût de mon annulation.
Y’a t il des membres du forum qui ont déjà eu des contacts dans ce sens leur voyagiste.
Personne ici n'en sait plus que ce que vous et nous pouvons lire dans les médias.
Il est normal que votre agent ne réponde pas, tout le monde est en congé pour le nouvel an Chinois.
La décision d'y aller ou pas est une question personnelle. Personne ici ne peur décider pour vous. Le risque me semble assez faible, surtout au Yunnan. Mais ça, c'est une évaluation personnelle.
En 2009, j'étais en Chine : tous les media parlaient de l'épidémie H1N1 qui a fait 737 morts dans ce pays, aucun ne mentionnait les 500 000 morts sur les routes chinoises de l'époque (j'ai relevé ce chiffre sur un panneau de prévention routière de la police chinoise, les autres sortent de Wikipedia).
La sécurité routière (en ville et hors agglomération) s'est nettement améliorée en Chine : il n'y a plus "que" 256 000 morts par an, ce qui en fait 10 000 pendant un séjour de deux semaines. Mais c'est quand même d'une épidémie (bien réelle, certes, mais probablement dix fois moins dangereuse) que vous vous inquiétez.
Pour le moment le trajet le plus dangereux, coté infection virale, sera celui fait EN FRANCE
la grippe virus bien connu dans notre pays fait tous les ans des morts par MILLIERS (souvent de l'ordre 2/3000 ou mm les "tristes" années + de 10000)
PS la Chine c'est grand et le Yunan a +/-2000km de Wuhan foyer principal
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
Je crains que nous soyons partis pour une longue période d'incertitude, mais j'espère aussi me tromper.
Bulletin de la DGS-URGENT :
Le 24 janv. 2020 à 23:10, dgs-urgent@dgs-urgent.sante.gouv.fr a écrit :
La Ministre des Solidarités et de la Santé confirme ce vendredi 24 janvier trois premiers cas en France d’infection par le nouveau coronavirus 2019-nCoV, l’un à Bordeaux et deux à Paris. Ces trois patients ont tous séjourné en Chine au cours des dernières semaines. Ils sont pris en charge dans un établissement de santé de référence. Leur état n’inspire pas d’inquiétude.
Nous rappelons aux professionnels de santé l'importance de signaler au SAMU Centre-15 toute personne présentant des signes cliniques d’infection respiratoire dans les 14 jours suivant un retour de Chine.
La définition de cas et la conduite à tenir sont disponibles sur le site de Santé publique France
La prise en charge d'un patient présentant des signes respiratoires infectieux doit s’accompagner de la mise en place de protection chez le patient (masque chirurgical) et chez le professionnel de santé (masque protecteur, lunettes, hygiène des mains) Cf. fiche COREB.
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Bonsoir,
1)A compter de ce jour ( 08/02), le gouvernement français déconseille formellement tout voyage en Chine.
2) En ce moment, votre voyagiste, français ou chinois, doit se demander comment il va rembourser ses clients.
3). Le vol vers la Chine est déjà très probablement annulé. Regardez le site de la compagnie aérienne qui devait vous transporter.
4) Si vous partiez quand même, vous seriez bon pour la quarantaine au retour...
À votre place, je ne me ferai pas d’illusion. Mais ne prenez pas l’initiative d’annuler de vous- même si vous ne voulez pas prendre de risque sur le remboursement.
Navré pour vous, mais vous trouverez une autre destination.
Bonsoir Jacques. Mon message est daté du 23 janvier, c’est à dire que nous étions à l’aube de cette épidémie. Nous avions acheté ce voyage chez Asia, un tour opérateur très sérieux avec lequel nous avons visité de très nombreux pays en Asie.
Asia nous a tout simplement informé que ce voyage n’était pas réalisable, et nous avons donc choisi librement une autre destination, sans aucune pénalité financière.
Cependant, nous avons été inquiets quelques jours devant un tas d'incertitudes en cette fin janvier. Nous avons souscrit pour ce voyage une assurance Mondial Assistance, et qu’elle ne fut pas notre surprise de découvrir dans les conditions pour annuler notre départ, que les risques viraux en période d’épidémie ne sont pas couvert. Avec un voyagiste peu sérieux, nous aurions pu perdre gros.
Donc un zéro pointé à Allianz qui offre le contrat Mondial Assistance, et avec lequel j’additionne une mauvaise série de problèmes sur d’autres assurances.
... Nous avons souscrit pour ce voyage une assurance Mondial Assistance, et qu’elle ne fut pas notre surprise de découvrir dans les conditions pour annuler notre départ, que les risques viraux en période d’épidémie ne sont pas couvert ...
Et c'est normal. Réfléchissez un peu avant de jeter la pierre à Allianz (et aux autres assureurs).
Rembourser des voyages en raison d'une épidémie reviendrait à rembourser TOUS les voyageurs à destination d'un pays ou plus stupide encore, rembourser TOUS les voyageurs du MONDE ENTIER en cas de pandémie comme la grippe A (vous savez, celle qui sévit chez nous sous le vocable H1-N1 et autres sous-groupes).
L'agence Asia n'est donc ni plus, ni moins sérieuse que ses consœurs.
Dans ce cas (épidémie), le Syndicat National des Agents de Voyage et l'Association des Tours Opérateurs doivent proposer deux options, soit le report du voyage à une date ultérieure soit l'alternative d'une autre destination, CQFD. 😎
Ah! Au fait, cette clause d'exclusion existe depuis 2009.
Je suis étonné que de grands voyageurs comme vous ne s'en soient pas inquiété avant.
Hi,
I’m planning a trip to Namibia for 3 weeks in November: should I take malaria prophylaxis, which medication, when to take it, and are there any side effects?
At the end of my trip, I’ll spend 5 days up north near the Angolan border and in Etosha National Park.
Thanks for sharing your travel tips and advice!
Martine
I’m planning a trip to Japan next year and I have asthma...
I wanted to know about the regulations regarding Ventolin (Salbutamol) in Japan—is it considered a drug? Can I bring my inhaler with me, or do I need to buy a similar product in Japan?
I have two American cousins. The older one was born in Paris, and his sister was born in California. The latter is planning a trip to Paris this summer, but she recently fell ill, and American doctors don’t know what’s wrong. I had the idea of letting her take advantage of her trip to get treated here, avoiding the high healthcare costs of the American system in the process. The problem is, I can’t find anything online about this—just testimonials from French people who used to be American, but nothing for a simple tourist.
I’m traveling to Portugal with my family and I have a treatment that requires injections. How can I take a flight with these? They look like injectable pens.
Thanks
We’re planning a trip to the Philippines from April 22 to May 8, 2026. Flight from Geneva with a layover in Turkey and Manila. Our itinerary: Angeles – Busuanga – Palawan…
The Philippines are a dream destination, but is it possible to travel there safely? I’ve heard that checked luggage often gets lost, tap water isn’t safe to drink, and mosquitoes are everywhere.
For water, what’s the best solution to carry in a backpack? Is a filtering water bottle 100% reliable?
For mosquitoes, should we treat our clothes with repellent? Are you vaccinated against hepatitis A, malaria, or dengue? Or is there an oral treatment to take?
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there’s travel insurance for someone who’s had a heart attack?
I can’t find an insurer that covers a pre-existing condition, even if it’s stable.
Thanks so much!
Hi everyone, next month my wife, our 6-year-old daughter, and I are flying to Thailand. It’ll be a great chance to soak up some sun—something we’ve been missing lately here in France! But speaking of sun, I burn easily, and our daughter even more so. I was wondering what SPF to get for sunscreen and whether it’s better to buy it there or before we leave? Thanks for your tips!
Hello,
We’re planning to spend 3 months in Madagascar starting in mid-February.
Areas: Mahajanga, Tulear, Diego Suarez, and Sainte Marie—the order isn’t set yet. We’ll either drive for part of the trip or take flights.
We’ve heard all sorts of things about required vaccines and medications (is anti-malarial mandatory?). What’s the exact situation for travelers?
I’ll come back to you for other topics (like finding a reliable driver, among others).
Thank you.
Best wishes to you all,
Nicole
We're about to go on an organized trip to South Africa, including Kruger Park. We were told that Malarone should preferably be taken in the evening at the same time during a meal. But it's hard to know what time we'll have dinner, especially since I've read that in South Africa, dinner is usually around 6 PM.
I'd love to hear from people who've been on organized trips to this destination and could share their experience. We were thinking of taking Malarone around 7:30 PM, assuming dinner would be closer to 7 PM than 6 PM. Also, if the meal ends up being earlier or later than when we take the pill, would a cookie or a piece of bread be enough to take with Malarone?
I’m planning to set off on a "round-the-world" trip/long journey at the start of next year, lasting between 4.5 and 6 months. For now, the itinerary looks like this: South Korea (2 weeks) -> Japan (1 month) -> New Zealand (1 month) -> Argentina (1 month) -> United States (1 month).
I’m on medication (paroxetine 20 mg/day) and was hoping to bring enough for the entire trip so I wouldn’t have to find a doctor on the spot, deal with a molecule that might be slightly different from what’s available in France, or wonder if that’s even a possibility. Basically, it seemed simpler on paper...
But after looking into the regulations for each country, it’s suddenly way less simple . Many seem to only allow the amount corresponding to the length of your "stay" in the country... Which is a problem if I arrive in Korea with 4.5 months’ worth of medication, for example.
After all that, and even though I’ll obviously contact the relevant authorities in each country (fingers crossed for a response 😛), here’s my question:
Has anyone here had any experience with this? (Even if it’s a different medication or different countries, any input would be helpful!)
I’m trying to plan a trip to Dubai with my mom. I’ve seen that some of our medications require prior authorization (sleeping pills, codeine, anti-anxiety meds, etc.).
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been in our situation. A friend of mine applied to bring her tramadol, but it was denied—though she needed high doses!
Has anyone here gone through this process? Do we *really* need a prescription in English?
We just found out my wife is pregnant, and we’ve planned a trip to the Barlavento Islands in Cape Verde this November.
We’d like to know if there’s a real risk of Zika contamination on those islands, because from what we’ve found online, the recorded cases are old and come from the Sotavento Islands.
We’re thinking about canceling our trip.
If you’ve recently traveled to Cape Verde or live there, do you have any thoughts on this?
hi, I’m looking for information about the possibility of returning to Thailand with a portable liquid oxygen system and whether it’s possible to recharge it in Thailand, especially in Chiang Mai. thanks
I’m starting a new discussion on this topic since there doesn’t seem to be a recent one.
I have several chronic conditions (including asthma and related ones), and I’m planning to travel for a year across different countries.
Generally, I understand it’s possible to travel with approved medications (which should be my case), but often with a limit of 3 months’ worth of treatment.
Since I’m going for 12 months, that means for three-quarters of my trip, I’d have more than 3 months’ worth of medication.
I plan to bring my prescriptions with the INN (International Nonproprietary Name), as well as the original packaging (even though it’s a nightmare, but from what I understand, it’s necessary). But I’m not sure if that’s enough...
Have any of you been in this situation before? How does it work at customs—do I need to declare everything that exceeds the 3-month limit? Do I need a letter from my doctors?
I'm currently in Bangkok: How can I find a good doctor for a consultation? It's for a friend who'd like a second medical opinion compared to what they got in their country of residence.
Any professionals you'd recommend? How much does it cost?
I’ve already visited quite a few countries across several continents, but I’m pretty new to Asia.
I’m planning a trip to Thailand in October or November, and I wanted to check about health precautions: malaria treatment, vaccinations (hepatitis A or others...).
I’ll mostly be in the northern region, around Chiang Mai, where I’ll spend a lot of time in nature and the mountains. Then I’ll head south to Phuket or Krabi and visit Khao Sok National Park. I’ll finish up in Bangkok, with a likely detour to Kanchanaburi.
From what I understand, for a stay of less than 60 days, I don’t need a visa (I’m a French national)? I just need to fill out the TDAC form 3 to 5 days before arrival?
Hi there,
I was wondering if anyone is heading to Cuba soon and could bring me some over-the-counter Sildenafil (viagra) tablets—available at Varadero Airport, among other places.
Hi there! So, I'm hesitating about taking a long trip. I'd like to go away for 2 to 3 months and travel across several continents. I’d love some advice. I often have unexplained allergies and need to follow a daily treatment for my diabetes (insulin). I think I can get authorization from my doctor to travel for 6 months with the treatment—is that correct? After those 6 months, is it possible (instead of bothering a relative to send the medication) to see a foreign doctor to get another 6-month travel authorization? How does it work at the airport? Do I need just one medication transport authorization, or do I have to request a new one in each country (once the treatment runs out) for both the flight and a DCI? Also, travel insurance doesn’t cover chronic illnesses, so will I have to pay for foreign consultations out of pocket? I’m not sure if I explained myself clearly. Oh, and just to repeat—travel insurance doesn’t cover chronic illnesses, so foreign consultations will be at my own expense? Thanks in advance for your help!
Hi everyone.
After years of traveling to the USA without any medical insurance subscriptions—and luckily never having any major health issues (though I did get a scorpion sting buried in the sand at CBSouth, 😇)—life has caught up with us, and we’re now being forced into "wisdom" and leaving our carefree days behind.
So, I’m looking for the best compromise for a 2-month health insurance plan.
I’ve read the discussions on this topic, but the most recent one is from last year, and I’d love your take on the current situation.
I’m familiar with the usual options like Europ Assistance and AXA, but I’ve just discovered Chapka and Heymondo (the latter seems interesting in terms of both price and coverage).
What do you think of these last two? How do they compare in terms of value for money against the bigger companies?
Hi,
We’ve planned a 3-week trip to Bali this summer with our 7-year-old daughter. The itinerary includes Sanur, Nusa Lembongan, Sidemen, Amed, and Ubud. The more time passes, the more we read about people getting sick—some with mild to severe traveler’s diarrhea, and many ending up in the hospital. We, as parents, have been through it in Egypt with pretty bad cases, but we’d really like to avoid that for our daughter. Even though there’s no zero risk, and we’ll be careful, can any of you reassure me? Not everyone got sick, right? I’d love to hear positive feedback from parents, but not just them 😊. Thanks in advance!
Hi there...
I’m traveling with a friend for a month in November.
We booked our round-trip tickets from Paris to Phnom Penh, and yes, I know—it was a mistake. We should’ve flown out of Laos, but here we are.
But is it doable to backpack through both countries in a relaxed way?
I’ve seen that the transport takes a while...
Thanks so much for your replies.
Hi there,
I’ve started looking into getting dental implants, possibly in Costa Rica or Mexico.
Do you have any clinics to recommend or ones I should avoid?
For the next steps, I need to choose between Cuba Medika or Medigo—these are agencies that help with medical procedures. Do you have any info on either of them?
Hi everyone, a question for those who’ve been lucky enough to visit Raja Ampat—should you consider preventive malaria treatment given its proximity to Papua? And how was the food hygiene situation?
Thanks for your feedback! !
For several years now, increased aggression has been observed in Cape fur seals.
At least 70 unprovoked attacks on humans.
It was recently confirmed that this is due to rabies.
The suspected origin is contamination in Namibia by jackals.
The contagion seems to be spreading.
Preventive vaccination (of the animals) is being considered.
Just a reminder:
Rabies affects all mammals.
Once symptoms appear—sometimes weeks or even months later—death is inevitable.
It’s the bite that transmits the disease.
There are so-called "furious" forms with aggression, but also forms without aggression.
In case of a bite, in addition to standard wound care, tetanus prevention… rabies prevention is essential.
Stay careful out there…
Seeing seals from a boat along the coast isn’t rare in these parts…
I need 2 dental implants and I'd like to get them done abroad (it's a question of price).
Thanks for helping me with my search (Turkey, Spain, Romania???)
Can you tell me if you're satisfied with the services provided by Dentist Miguel at Club Amigo in Holguin? I'd like to go there in mid-December. Is it worth the trip to get dental prosthetics done?
Thanks for getting back to me... Michelle from Quebec
Hello,
I’m looking for a dentist who can do a full lower-arch implant with a complete prosthesis. I’m in Quebec and available to travel to Cuba. Need full contact details. Thanks everyone!
