Franco-Togolese marriage
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AG Agnès228 ·
Hi Manue,

I know this message is a bit old, but I hope you can still reply. I’m French and I’ll be moving to Togo soon to join my fiancé, who is Togolese. He applied for a tourist visa to spend Christmas in France with my family so they could meet him, but his application was denied. Since my family can’t travel there anytime soon, we want to speed up our wedding so he can come and meet them. He went to the French consulate in Lomé today to get information about marriage, but they refused to see him. If you receive this message, I’d love to benefit from your experience and knowledge on the subject. We’re hoping to get married at the consulate so our union will be recognized by the French state.

Thanks in advance for your help, and all the best.

Agnès

Hello,

My husband and I have just gone through this step of a Franco-Togolese marriage—he’s Togolese and I’m French. Given how nothing is easy with the administration, I’m leaving this post here, and if you’d like advice or want to benefit from our experience, don’t hesitate...

Good luck to everyone in the same situation!!
SA Sadetcath ·
Hi, I’m in the same situation with a Franco-Togolese wedding, and I’m struggling to understand all the administrative documents I find online. If you could share your experience, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks!

catherine.beauger@wanadoo.fr
PA Paag ·
Hi. Are you thinking of getting married at the consulate?
SA Sadetcath ·
Hello, and thank you so much for replying! Yes, I’m thinking of going through the consulate, but from everything I’ve read, it’s getting riskier and more complicated to reach the goal. Your insights would be a huge help. I’ll share my personal email if you prefer: catherine.beauger@wanadoo.fr. Thanks again for the help, have a great day
NO Nounou81 ·
Hello everyone,

Sorry for disappearing from the discussion for so long! I’ve been married to my Togolese fiancé since August 13, 2015, and we’ve been parents since October 10, 2016. For those who have questions, I’d be happy to answer!

I can already tell you that the French consulate in Lomé doesn’t perform marriages! You have to go through a local marriage ceremony (only at the town hall, not the prefecture), after obtaining a *Certificat de capacité à mariage* (Certificate of Capacity to Marry) from the consulate for the French national. This process, which is pretty much mandatory if you later want to register your marriage in the consular civil registry, takes between 3 and 6 months if your file is complete. Also, the consulate doesn’t receive unmarried Togolese partners of French citizens except for visa applications (tourist visas are systematically refused, by the way!). On top of that, I strongly recommend applying for this *Certificat de capacité à mariage* (CCM) from France via diplomatic pouch (this is well explained on the consulate’s website under “services for French citizens” – “marriage”). In fact, when applications are submitted directly at the consulate (even by the French national), files mysteriously disappear without a trace... (this is from personal experience—I’m not just spreading rumors).

Anyway, if I can help, I’d be happy to! !
NO Nounou81 ·
Hi there!

Sorry for the late reply! I posted an update in the discussion thread—you can look it up. But I can confirm that I’ve been married to my Togolese partner for over a year now! It wasn’t without its challenges, but today we look back on all those adventures with a smile. It was worth it—we’re so happy. He’s been living in France with me for a year now, and we’re the proud parents of a beautiful mixed-race little girl!

If you need any advice, don’t hesitate!
AG Agnès228 ·
Thanks, Aurore, for all this info, and congratulations to you and your husband on your little girl! My partner and I also know it’s worth it, and we won’t let the bureaucracy discourage us, but what a nightmare—it’s crazy how much time it takes and the obstacles they throw in our way! I’ll follow your advice and try to get that CCAM quickly. Did you manage to get your marriage registered in the French records? If so, how long did it take, please? For the certificate of custom, was your husband able to get it quickly? Which administration do you have to request it from? Thanks again for your story, and all the best! ;-)
NO Nounou81 ·
Thanks Aurore for all this info, and congratulations to you and your husband on your little girl! My partner and I also know it’s worth it, and we won’t let the bureaucracy discourage us, but what a nightmare—it’s insane how much time it takes and the obstacles they throw in our way! I’ll follow your advice and try to get that CCAM quickly. Did you manage to have your marriage transcribed in the French registers? If so, how long did it take, please? For the certificate of custom, was your husband able to get it quickly? Which administration do you have to request it from? Thanks again for your testimony and all the best ;-)

Yes, we had our marriage transcribed in the consular civil registry—it took less than 3 months. This was because we had requested and obtained the Certificate of Capacity to Marry before our wedding, which makes the transcription process much easier. Of course, we acted as quickly as possible, and our file was complete. Now our marriage is recognized by the French state, and we have a French family record book where we were able to register our little girl! And once the transcription is done, you’ve got the golden ticket—your husband can go to the French consulate with his visa application for the spouse of a French citizen without an appointment!! After that, if the file is complete and all documents are valid, the visa is granted without any issues. My husband got his in 1 week after submitting the application! So, unfortunately, it’s the only way for your husband to come live in France with you... As for the certificate of custom, I think you need to contact the village chief where your fiancé lives. If he lives in Lomé, you should see the neighborhood chief. There you go, happy to help, and good luck to you both 😉
PA Paag ·
Hi there. We’re still waiting for our marriage certificate. You said your husband got his long-stay visa without making an appointment? I thought you had to buy a card and call. Françoise.
AG Agnès228 ·
Thanks again, and it’s really reassuring to hear that everything went well for you two. From what you’re saying, it "just" takes having all the documents in order and being patient for it to work out.

For the record, my fiancé and I have decided to build our life in Togo, and I’ll be joining him soon. All these steps we’re going through right now are just for a short stay so he and my family can finally meet and get to know each other...

Just a few more questions about the CCAM: they say it takes 4 months between submitting the file and receiving the certificate. Was it that long for you? Is there a way to get it faster? And can I already submit it from France before going to join my fiancé (to save time)?
AG Agnès228 ·
Thanks again, and it’s really reassuring to know everything went well for you both—from what you’re saying, it "just" takes having all the documents in order and being patient for things to work out. For info, my fiancé and I have decided to build our life in Togo, and I’ll be joining him soon. All these steps we’re going through right now are just for a short stay so he and my family can finally meet and get to know each other... Just a couple more questions about the CCAM—they say it takes 4 months between submitting the file and getting the certificate. Was it that long for you? Is there a way to get it faster? And can I already submit it from France before going to join my fiancé (to save time)?

Sorry, I’m taking back my last question about the possibility of doing it from France (I’m a bit overwhelmed by all this and forgot your answer in a previous message, Aurore). Thanks again
NO Nounou81 ·
Sorry for the late reply—I don’t have much time to myself with my baby! The 4-month timeline is just an estimate; it can take less time depending on how long it takes to verify your documents and publish the banns at the town hall (in France). For us, they initially said it would take 8 months, but we got it done in 2 and a half! That said, you’re right to want to send your file from France and then go there—it’s definitely the best (if not the only) solution! You’ll need to send your CCM application file from France via registered mail with acknowledgment of receipt to the French Embassy in Lomé through the diplomatic pouch. The address is on the French Consulate in Lomé’s website, under the "services for French citizens" section—marriage. There you go! Also, don’t forget about the timeline for the wedding in Togo—you generally need to allow 45 days between submitting the marriage file (which includes the CCM!) to the town hall and the scheduled wedding date... If you have any other questions, don’t hesitate!
BL Blupinho ·
Hello,

I hope you don’t mind me joining your conversation—I’m also about to marry my Togolese fiancée in May in Lomé.

We sent the CCAM request in December, and the process is underway. Our file is also complete on the Togolese civil registry side; we’re just waiting for that all-important approval from the embassy. Timing-wise, it should work out!

Where we’re unsure is about the documents needed for the marriage transcription: - Copy of the marriage contract signed before the wedding or a certificate issued by a notary - Copy of the declaration of applicable law for the matrimonial regime or a certificate issued by a notary

We’ve decided not to have a marriage contract, so does that mean we need to get a certificate from a notary? As for the declaration of applicable law for the matrimonial regime, I have no idea what that is, and I can’t find any firsthand accounts online...

Could you tell me more about this? I’m a little worried about wasting time because of an incomplete file... Also, could you let me know how long it took for you to get this transcription done? I’d love for my future wife to come to France as early as July, but I’m starting to get nervous...

Thanks so much for your help!
NO Nounou81 ·
Hi there,

I understand your concern—I had the same! But no worries, those documents aren’t essential, and not providing them can’t prevent or even delay the transcription of your marriage. I didn’t have them either. The transcription of our wedding took about a month and a half, and even then, we were missing one document (my spouse’s civil status record—nothing to do with a marriage contract or a designation of applicable law). For your info (I checked with a notary): the law applicable to your marriage will be that of the country where you’ll live together (France if it’s in France, Togo if it’s in Togo), even if you get married in Togo. Plus, the mayor will read you the French civil code during the civil ceremony! Also, if you want to establish a marriage contract, you can only do so with a Togolese notary in Togo, because notaries in France aren’t authorized in the case of a marriage celebrated in a foreign country. And it’s not possible to sign the contract after the marriage, so... You can relax about that!

Good luck to you both!

Hello,

I hope you don’t mind me jumping into your conversation—I’m also about to marry my Togolese fiancée in May in Lomé.

The CCAM request was sent in December, and the process is underway. Our file is also complete at the Togolese civil registry; all that’s missing is the famous embassy approval... timing-wise, it should be fine!

The part we’re unsure about is the documents needed for the marriage transcription: - copy of the marriage contract signed before the wedding or a certificate issued by a notary - copy of the designation of applicable law for the matrimonial regime or a certificate issued by a notary

We’ve decided to skip a marriage contract, so does that mean we need to get a certificate from a notary? As for the designation of applicable law for the matrimonial regime, I have no idea what that is, and I can’t find any firsthand accounts online...

Could you tell me more about this? I’m a little afraid of wasting time because of an incomplete file... Could you also let me know how long it took to get this transcription done? I’d like my future wife to come to France as early as July, but I’m starting to get a little worried...

Thanks for your help!
AN AnneDola ·
Good evening everyone, I hope you don't mind me jumping into your discussions! I’m currently going through the infamous CCM process myself... My application was submitted in early January. Now we’re facing the interviews. Has anyone else been through this? Do you know if it will affect the processing time? Thanks in advance!
PA Paag ·
Hi. I got married without a CCM in June, and the transcription was done in January. Everything went smoothly. Now we’re preparing the visa.
BL Blupinho ·
Thank you so much, Aurore!!

You really set my mind at ease! It wasn’t exactly easy filling out the CCAM and Lomé civil registry forms, especially living 5,000 km apart... But the transcription process is going to be much simpler. Phew!

I have to say, they really try to scare us in the information sheet and list of documents required: "IMPORTANT: If any of the documents listed above are missing, the application cannot be processed."

One last question: once the transcription is done, do we have to go back to the embassy to pick up the documents, or do they send them directly to our home?

In reply to AnneDola, I’m a bit surprised you had to go through an interview for a Franco-Togolese wedding. I don’t know if it extends the processing time, but what really takes time are the posting periods and the transfer of documents between your town hall in France and the embassy in Lomé. The advantage of the CCAM is that it really shortens the transcription delays afterward.
AN AnneDola ·
Hi, Well, this doesn’t reassure me at all! The consul must not like our file to be asking for interviews... It’s adding even more stress! The CCM process is already long, and gathering all the Togolese documents isn’t easy.

What timeline did you put for the civil wedding in your CCM file? We put 4 months and a few days, but now that seems tight with the interviews they’re asking for...
NO Nounou81 ·
Hi Blupinho,

Once the transcription is done, it’s sent by the embassy to the town hall in your place of residence in France. They’ll contact you when they’ve received it so you can pick it up in person (with an ID, of course!).
NO Nounou81 ·
Hi, yes, you need to buy a card to make a phone appointment to apply for a tourist visa. But when my husband went to his appointment at the embassy (which he booked through this procedure), they told him that as the spouse of a French citizen, he didn’t need to go through this process—he could have shown up directly without an appointment to submit his visa application.

Hi. We’re waiting for our marriage transcription. You said your husband got his long-stay visa without making an appointment? I thought you had to buy a card and call. Françoise.

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