Bonjour à tous,
Désirant faire étape à Skoura au mois d'avril prochain, je me suis aperçue que pour se rendre "chez Talout", il fallait emprunter une piste, est ce faisable avec une voiture de location ?
d'autre part, est ce que l'auberge Benmoro a un site internet et que choisiriez vous entre "talout" ou "Benmoro"?
merci par avance pour vos réponses,
Catherine
Tous les clients de "Talout" y arrivent sans problème par cette jolie petite piste bien propre, avec tous véhicules. 3 km !!
Attention ne pas la chercher à Skoura village, mais à 5 km en direction de Ouarzazate, grosses pancartes.
En arrivant d'Ouarzazate, à 2 km après le village d'Idelsane, guetter les pancartes indiquant l'établissement. Piste de 3 km faisable avec tout type de véhicule.
Désertique, on passe le temps du trajet à se demander où nous mènera-t-elle avant que ne se dévoile l'un des plus beaux endroits du Maroc.
En plus du cadre, l'accueil est exceptionnel.
Un grand bonjour de ma part à tous les Talout quand vous y passerez.
Bonjour
chez BenMoro et chez Talout etablissements de la meme catégorie selon la dérniere classification , et qui offrent les memes prestations .
je confirme les infos des autres apart l'email donné par raoulx , le bon est famillebenmoro@hotmail.com ou bien les cordonnées que tu peux trouver sur
www.desérts-maroc.com dont une page est consacré au Benmoro mais avec des anciens photos car la maison a connu des rénovations. pour avril il vaut mieux prévenir la maison
* **** chez BenMoro et chez Talout etablissements de la meme catégorie selon la dérniere classification , et qui offrent les memes prestations . ****
un peu trop mécanique !
Certains font plus d'efforts que d'autres
Sont plus propres que d'autres,
ont des cuisines différentes
ont des qualités d'accueil et d'animation différentes..... etc etc !!
C'est peut etre aussi pour cela qu'un forum est utile , sinon on se contente des pages jaunes.
un peu trop mécanique ! t'as le droit
mais tu comprends les choses explicitement mon pot
ça na rien avoir , chui ni l'un ni l'autre , ni gérant ni comissionnaire ni partisan
Bonjour,
Ait ben moro est tout pres de la route goudronnee et il ya deux : ait ben moro et famille ben moro une tout pres de l'autre
moi j'ai ete à ait ben moro avec des clients vue mon metier d'accompagnateur de tourisme et c'est tres bien ;mais comme j'ai dis contactez les et choisissez . il ya une autre auberge pres de la kasbah amerhidil accès facile par piste en voiture de location.bonne chance
une petite adresse charmante dans la palmeraie, avec accueil chaleureux Dar Lorkam, Michèle et Thierry se mettent en 4 pour faire plaisir et leur maison est très sympa
www.dar-lorkam.com
Email: contact@dar-lorkam.com
vers la sortie de Skoura tu suis les flèches vertes, cest un jeu de piste faisable en VL
J'étais chez Talout, fin septembre, et franchement , c'est une adresse , qu'il faut recommander.
Charme, tranquilité, discrétion, la vue de la terrasse sur la palmeraie, est inoubliable0
On a le choix, entre 2 endroits, la première maison d'hotes, de talout, un peu en contre bas de l'autre a 300 ou 400m, de la seconde, qui elle offre une superbe piscine.
J'ai visité la première, sans piscine, toute aussi charmante que celle avec piscine.
La cuisine, impeccable.
Tout le monde sourit, surtout Soufiane, toujours prèt a rendre service.
A 30 minutes a pied, kasbah ancienne a visiter, avec petit musée de la palmeraie, intéressant.
merci virginie de nous faire partager ton expérience
j'ai bien noté cette adresse que l'on m'avait déjà recommandé par ailleurs
alors, sans aucun doute , nous allons passer chez Talout lors de notre prochain voyage
2 ème semaine d'avril 2010
faudrait il réserver ( nous sommes 6 ...) ?
de là nous partons vers la vallée des roses et n'avons pas de circuit précis
en arrivant à Marrakech , comment vous êtes vous rendus jusque chez Talout ?
nous prévoyions un taxi collectif
moi aussi il me tarde d'y être ....😉
Chez Talout, vu le nombre de commentaires flatteurs sur tous les forums, il va etre bientot obligatoire de réserver, surtout à l'époque souhaitée, et en nombre!!
Le taxi collectif, je ne te le recommande pas , 6 heures de route entassés dans une vielle merco, avec 50 km de haute montagne , vous n'arriverez pas à vous extraire à l'arrivée.
Plusieurs bus à 80 dh par personne partent dans la matinée de la gare routière de Bab Doukkala, et peuvent vous déposer 5 km avant Skoura à l'embranchement, un coup de fil et la Kangoo de Talout arrive.
A Marrakech, j'ai loué une voiture, a Sanikel, comme chaque fois.
Sauf que cette fois c'est moi qui ai conduit, car nous partions a 2 amies.
Si tu ne veux pas louer une voitire, la bus, c'est bien aussi, le taxi collectif, je l'ai pris pour aller dans la vallée des Ait Bougmez, c'était une chouette expérience, mais moins confortable, c'était comique, en plein ramadan, a l'arrière du taxi , nous, a 3 femmes, habillées dignement pantalon, tee shirt manches longues(35 degrés)!!!!, et les 3 hommes devant, sur 3 heurs, pas un coup d'oeil au rétroviseur, comme si nous étions inexistantes. Par contre pas cher! La voiture c'est impecc, si tu veux aller dans des endroits un peu reculés , arrèt quand on le sent, c'est vrai que c'est bien.
Le col du tizn tichka, impeccable en voiture, mais prudence , franchement je suis nul au volant, et notre périple s'est déroulé a merveille.
On a fait Marrakech, Agdz (dar qamar, que j'adore), ensuite direction Alnif, on a coupé par la piste (moitié bitume), un peu chaud aven une voiture de tourisme, un gentil monsieur, nous a accompagné jusqu'au goudron, ouf !!merci sinon, je n'aurais jamais trouvé cette piste.
Ensuite Tinjdad, gite El Khorbat(accueil super, ballade avec Hassan dans la palmeraie, j'y retournerai aussi!!) inch Allah!
Ensuite direction auberge berbère de la montagne, gorges du Dadès, super sympa, adresse fort connue du forum. Et pour terminer Skoura, un des plus beaux endroits, pour moi, cette palmeraie est magnifique. Impératif de réserver!! Bien a toi Virginie
à vous lire ( Raoul et Virginie : merci ! ) il semble que notre idée de taxi collectif c'est pas top 🙁
j'ai déjà expérimenté c'est vrai que l'on est secoué ! j'avais l'espoir qu'en prenant un taxi que pour nous 6 nous aurions une autre relation avec le chauffeur et qu'ils nous auraient arrêtés là où on lui demandait ( sans non plus s'arrêter tous les 3 km ....😇 )
le bus c'est folklo mais ça me semblait long et frustrant , toujours // à notre idée de faire des haltes
on cherchait (sans faire ds l'écolo pur et dur ) un moyen de transport collectif car sur place , plutôt ds la vallée des roses , nous aurions laissé la voiture sans l'utiliser : nous ferions des ballades à pied
peut être , à tomber sous le charme de la palmeraie à Skoura , resterons nous une nuit de plus ? mais je compte bien réserver vu l'engouement 😎
sinon , quel prix faut il compter pour la location d'un véhicule pour 6 personnes ?
vous me recommandez ' sanikel ' comme loueur à marrakech ?
il nous faut étudier toutes les possibilités rien n'est fixé : c'est ça le plaisir de préparer un voyage 😉
cela me permet d'y rêver déjà ...il me tarde ( aujourd'hui il n'a pas dégelé en sud gironde 😕 )
merci à vous
promis je partage mes infos et commentaires au retour !
Bonsoir,
merci à tous pour tous vos précieux conseils!
j'ai fait mon choix entre Ben Moro et Talout, et vu l'avalanche de louanges pour Talout , je viens de réserver chez lui( 4 personnes) pour la 2eme semaine d'avril....alors , Capucine , il ne te reste qu'à faire de même si, tu veux avoir de la place!
a bientôt, peut être
Catherine
ah la la ! tu me stresses
nous ne sommes pas prêts à prendre notre réservation 🤪
nous avons prévu de nous contacter après les fêtes pour poser les 1ères étapes
au plaisir de nous retrouver chez TALOUT
quelle est leur capacité d'accueil ? 😕
Pour sanikel, compter 30 euros par jour. Ils sont renseignés sur internet.J'ai eu une nouvelle ford fiesta , essence nikel, mais a 6, il faut plus grand évidemment.Mais le bus, pourquoi pas, vous ètes 6 adultes?
Chez talout , a 6, il faut réserver maintenant, pour la capacité d'accueil, il faut envoyer un mail, réponse rapide.
Taxi collectif, pas top, c'est mon avis perso, surtout avec changement obligatoire à Ouarzazate.
* ***une autre relation avec le chauffeur et qu'ils nous auraient arrêtés là où on lui demandait****
la on est plus dans le collectif, c'est du louage particulier, qui se négocie beaucoup plus cher, et nécessite un chauffeur francophone, c'est pas la majorité , loin de la.
Le bus , long et frustrant... c'est discutable, moi je ne m'en lasse pas!.
Si tu tiens à la souplesse, effectivement , la voiture de loc, est la meilleure solution, c'est d'ailleurs celle que j'utilise systématiquement en famille.
ton problème , c'est le groupe de 6 personnes !!
Tu as intérét à sonder dès maintenant tous les loueurs cités règulièrement sur ce forum, Medloc, Ramsis, Yacout, concordre, sanikel , et les autres. voir leurs offres, il ne m'étonnerait point que les seuls véhicules proposés ne soient que des 4x4 à plus de 100 euros (voire 120) par jour, pleine saison oblige !
Il est inutile de réserver chez Talout 4 mois à l'avance , 2 mois c'est un max, et si c'est plein , il t'aiguillera sur Dar Panorama, son voisin et ami, qui est aussi une bonne adresse.
Pour la vallée des roses , un excellent point de chute, l'auberge Tamalout , à Tamalout, juste à l'entrée de Bou Tharar. on peut y organiser des ballades de 1 à 3 jours (avec l'intendance).
Pour y aller , sans voiture perso , c'est plus folklo, il faut prendre les vieux minibus ford au souk de el Kelaa M'gouna.
Hello to all Morocco lovers, First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we ve enjoyed. It s a joy to find such…
I’m heading back to Egypt for the first time in 30 years this July. Last time, I was 20, and we spent two weeks traveling on a shoestring as backpackers.
I’m wondering about a "cruise" on a felucca from Aswan—mainly to avoid being stuck in an air-conditioned tourist bubble (we’re already spending our first week in that setting with our diving club). We’d like to explore the most interesting stretch of the Nile between Aswan and Luxor. Do you have any thoughts on this option, tips, or maybe some contacts?
Hello, my husband and I will be in Egypt this coming November. Cairo seems more challenging to explore without a guide, and we’ll be there for 3 full days. Would anyone have the name of a guide?
Thanks!
Hi, we're looking for a guide to show us around Essaouira.
We're 11 adults and don't want to go through an agency. If you have a contact to help us discover this city, that would be great!
Thanks
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them.
I didn’t find any info on the forum.
Best,
Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights)
- Aït Ben Haddou (1 night)
- Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days)
- M'hamid (1 night)
- Erg Chigaga (1 night)
- 4 nights to slot in
- Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question:
For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Hi everyone,
Our trip to Morocco will be from November 3 to 17, in the High Atlas.
Basically, our route would be:
Marrakech - Aït Benhaddou
Skoura - Tinghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via the N12 to Zagora
Zagora - Draa Valley - Marrakech
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available.
What do you recommend? Book ahead or not?
Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me.
Roberto
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April.
What do you think of this rate?
This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available?
-Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)?
-Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?)
- What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!)
- In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid?
- Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country?
- A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you:
- Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why?
- Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies.
- Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car?
- Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years.
Have a great evening,
Roberto
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.