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Inondations désastreuses à Merzouga (Maroc)
by Raoulx
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Salut Raoulx,
Tres bien de faire un post mais je te demande pourquoi ne pas le faire sur le post que j avais poste
Tres fortes inondations au Maroc
D ailleurs je viens d y remettre de nouvelles photos .
Propose tu une solution d aide ????
Car Gepetto a deja entrepris un projet d aide et j attends qu il m en informe .
Vois tu Claude, ton message aete lu 75 fois, le mien 425 fois, mais vu le nombre de reponse que nous avons recu, je crois qu il sera difficile de faire quelques chose
De toute facons ce qui sera fait, ne pourra qu etre un bien pourla population .
Dès mardi j entreprends de faire le contact avec tous les TO qui ont su profiter de cette region magnifique en faisant de Merzouga un paradis du desert J espere qu il ne l oublierons pas dans les prochaines annees .
Cordialement Thierry Angelika
Propose tu une solution d aide ????
Car Gepetto a deja entrepris un projet d aide et j attends qu il m en informe .
Vois tu Claude, ton message aete lu 75 fois, le mien 425 fois, mais vu le nombre de reponse que nous avons recu, je crois qu il sera difficile de faire quelques chose
De toute facons ce qui sera fait, ne pourra qu etre un bien pourla population .
Dès mardi j entreprends de faire le contact avec tous les TO qui ont su profiter de cette region magnifique en faisant de Merzouga un paradis du desert J espere qu il ne l oublierons pas dans les prochaines annees .
Cordialement Thierry Angelika
Thierry & Angelika
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plutot que prendre contact avec des gens du forum a ce sujet pour savoir ce que l'on pouvait faire, j'ais directement contacte mon guide au maroc, je l'ai vue a l'oeuvre dans d'autres circonstance et je suis sure que ce qu'il suggerera sera utile.
cela dit je l'ais fait car j'ais lu l'info sur le forum.
Bonjour Minala, j ai aussi quelqu un sur place qui est deja parti avec +-250 kg de materiel ( vetements chaussures ) d autre part nous avons envoye par Werstern union une certaine somme d argent que notre ami aura a sa disposition pour acheter des fournitures qu il est preferable d acheter sur place .
Le but de notre message est surtout d informer .
Ce que tu as fait est tres bien .Un bon exemple a suivre .
Cordialement
THierry Angelika
Le but de notre message est surtout d informer .
Ce que tu as fait est tres bien .Un bon exemple a suivre .
Cordialement
THierry Angelika
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à Mezrzouga des comités locaux se sont formés avec des acteurs associatifs, les autorités, les elus. ces comités ont presenté leurs evaluations et les travaux de restaurations et reconstructions vont bon train deja.
Ce que je veux dire aussi c'est que la situation s'est nettement ameliorée. et le vrai probléme qui a causé tant de desastre est les constructions anarchiques d'auberges et autres sur le lit d'un ancien oued. les solutions resident en un plan global d'infrastructures bien etudié.
Délaisse les grandes routes, prends les sentiers. Pythagore
Bonjour tout a fait d accord avec toi
Mmais que veux tu l appat du gain money money
Maintenant le resultat est la . L aide que nous tentons de faire est pour les villageois et malheureusement il n y a pas que Merzouga il y a eu d autres regions pres d Errachidia ou la popumation a aussi besoin
Cordialement Thierry
Maintenant le resultat est la . L aide que nous tentons de faire est pour les villageois et malheureusement il n y a pas que Merzouga il y a eu d autres regions pres d Errachidia ou la popumation a aussi besoin
Cordialement Thierry
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Tout d'abord je te felicite pour ton esprit de solidarité.
En clair la population n' a pas besoin de vetements ni de chaussures peut être ces choses seront plus interessants au sud soudan où ailleurs. Ce dont ils ont besoin c'est les grosses machines pour enlever les pierres de leurs champs et de leurs routes, des aides financieres peut être pour construire et puis là il ne faut pas rêver on ne construit plus avec du pise mais plutôt un melange de ceci et de ciments et autres.
le plus important c'est de travailler avec les assos locales ceci pour transparance et efficience.
le plus important encore c'est encourager les touristes à y aller .
Délaisse les grandes routes, prends les sentiers. Pythagore
Bjrs Alkimist je sais que qu il faut de grosses machines pour deblayer mais ca desole je n epeux pas en envoyer malheureusement .
Par contre concernant les vetements je peux te dire que certains en on vraiment besoin mais bon n ous n allons pas entammer une polemique .
Tout a fait d accord avec toi de passer avec une association d ailleurs c est ce que nous faisons car et c est bien malheureux il y aura toujours certaines personnes qui profiterons du malheur des uns .........
Je peux par contre te dire qu il n y a pas besoin d aller au SOudan car je connais certains village qui sont tres heureux de recevoir vetements ou chaussures .
Continuer avec le tourisme, tout a fait d accord, mais avec un tourisme intelligent, je n ai jamais dit qu il n y avait que le pise mais dans bcp d endroit c est encore utilise desole la de te contre dire .
Cordialement Thierry
Je peux par contre te dire qu il n y a pas besoin d aller au SOudan car je connais certains village qui sont tres heureux de recevoir vetements ou chaussures .
Continuer avec le tourisme, tout a fait d accord, mais avec un tourisme intelligent, je n ai jamais dit qu il n y avait que le pise mais dans bcp d endroit c est encore utilise desole la de te contre dire .
Cordialement Thierry
Thierry & Angelika
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Bonjour je vous joints les coordonnees de l asso qui a ete cree en Suisse afin de venir en aide
Bonjour à toutes et tous,
Je connais une famille avec 4 enfants qui est actuellement sous une tente plastique en plein soleil par 45° ! Leur maison en pisé qui les abritait des grandes chaleurs, c'est écroulée suite à la catastrophe naturelle du 27 mai dernier. C'est le cas de dizaines d'autres familles dans la région de Merzouga.
Nous avons décidé de faire quelque chose pour eux !
Des infos et des photos sur la page : http://gepetto.ch/18892.html
Merci de faire suivre... et bonnes salutations
Bonjour à toutes et tous,
Je connais une famille avec 4 enfants qui est actuellement sous une tente plastique en plein soleil par 45° ! Leur maison en pisé qui les abritait des grandes chaleurs, c'est écroulée suite à la catastrophe naturelle du 27 mai dernier. C'est le cas de dizaines d'autres familles dans la région de Merzouga.
Nous avons décidé de faire quelque chose pour eux !
Des infos et des photos sur la page : http://gepetto.ch/18892.html
Merci de faire suivre... et bonnes salutations
Thierry & Angelika
http://voyagedumonde.oldiblog.com
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We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help






