Itinéraire de douze jours dans les vallées et gorges du Dadès, Todra, Drâa et le désert marocain?
by Artemis4
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
nous sommes 5 personnes et partons 12 jours au mois de mars au maroc nous arrivons à marrakech avons loue un riad pendant les 3 premieres nuit, ensuite, nous avons un contact avec un guide qui a une maison d'hotes a boutaghrar( qui est dans le guide du routard) maison d'hotes du mont m'goun chez abdou, il nous propose cet itineraire:
marrakech ait benhaddou visite du ksar, ouarzazate, skoura, pour rejoindre la vallee des roses par la piste qui traverse le plateau d'azegza et le village d'imaghren, en passant par le versant sud du mont m'goun, 1ere nuit à la maison d'hotes.
2eme jour: vallee et gorges du dades par mesimrir pour rejoindre les gorges du todra, 2eme nuit à la maison d'hotes
3eme jour par le col tazazert on traverse le jbel sagro, vallee du draa, nuit aux dunes ou hotel dans les environs de tazarine
4eme jour; vallee du draa, nuit sous les tentes berberes dans les environs de mhamid
5eme jour retour vers ouarzazate en passant par chegaga, foum zguid et taznakhte
1ere question. faut-il imperativement un guide pour ce circuit
est-il possible de le faire sans 4X4
est-ce que ce circuit est valable
merci à tous de vos conseils
Bonjour,
Votre itinéraire est des plus classique, la piste entre Skoura et boutaghrar est assez monotone et longue par contre pour les georges du Dades c'est goudron jusqu'a Mesmir mais pour rejoindre celles du Todra par tamtatchout je crois que ça ne passe plus et qu'il faut revenir sur ses pas. Ensuite le Sagrho plus Tazazazert et nuit dans les dunes à Tazazarine il n'y en a pas!!!! les plus proche sont pas loin de Zagora en allant vers le Tafilalet et encore minuscule petit tas de sables!!!!!!! Qu'en à la nuit sous tente berbere non loin de M'hamid il s'agit de l'erg Lihoudi véritable concentration de touristes, il vaut mieux allez passer la nuit à Chigaga. Sinon Erg Lihoudi Chigaga Foum Zguid Tazenak et Ouarzazate en une journée il faut partir à l'aube et vous arriverez tard le soir même plutôt de nuit et surement complètement crevée de fatigue il vaux mieux le faire en deux jours mais la partie Lihoudi Foum Zguid est sympa c'est le désert +++ ensuite goudron environ 200 km soit 4 heures + 7 à 8 h pour faire la partie désert !!!
Un 4x4 est indispensable et un guide aussi aprés tout dépend des prestations qui vous sont proposer et le prix.
Pat
merci pour les infos. donc si je comprends, il vaut mieux prendre la N10 pour rejoindre boutharar, plutot que la piste. est-ce que la piste qui rejoint le col tazazert n'est pas trop mauvaise? debut mars y aura t-il de la neige? combien de temps pour rejoindre boumoulne dades à nekob?
merci beaucoup...🙂
BONJOUR POUR VOTRE QUESTION: OUI VOUS AVEZ BESOIN D UN GUIDE POUR CE CIRCUIT NI NON VOUS PERDE DANS LE SUD MAROCAINS, POUR 4X4 ES QUE VOUS AVEZ PRIS DES PISTES OU PAR LA ROUTE GOUDRONNER?
bonjour,
concernant les 3ème, 4ème et 5ème jours il vous faut un 4x4 équipé ( bon pneus, plaques à sable, etc ) et à défaut de guide, des cartes et un gps ( si vous n'avez pas de cartes, vous pouvez trouver les points gps du parcourt dans certains guides, gandini entre autres )
Aucun risque de neige au col de tazazert !
Eviter effectivement mhamid ( plein de pénibles qui veulent vous servir de guides, sans compter ceux qui font en sorte de vous envoyer dans la mauvaise direction ), on peut bivouaquer sans problème à chegaga, le mieux étant de partir avec une tente.
perju
Qui boit l'eau d'une terre étrangère doit en suivre les coutumes (proverbe Mongol)
Re .....
Je vous conseille la route de Ouarzazate jusqu'a El Kalea M'Gouna (la capitale des roses) ensuite prenez la piste pour Bou Thrarar l'arrivée en haut du col donne un super panorama sur la vallée, ensuite pour le Saghro vous prenez la piste tout de suite à droite à l'angle de la caserne à la sortie de Boulmane c'est une piste bien roulante sur un haut plateau vous avez une route goudronnée un peu plus loin sur la droite, vous prenez la direction de Tagdit (toujours prendre les piste vers la gauche sinon vers la droite vous arrivez sur des fermes et c'est cul de sac, aps Tagdit c'est une jolie petite vallée prenez la direction d'Iknioun puis un peu avant ce village vous avez une bifurcation pour le Tazazazert et Nekob vous grimpez un peu puis arrivez au sommet magnifique panorama aussi !!!! ensuite 16 km de descente pour arrivée dans une autre vallée en bas du col allez voir la cascade non loin faite vous accompagné par un enfant ou adressez vous au café Tazlout en bas du col elle n'est pas évidente à y aller il faut marcher un peu !!!! ensuite pour Nekob il vous reste 25 km d'abord dans la vallée puis un petit col assez raide et vous arrivez sur un haut plateaux avec des mines de cuivre . De Boulemane à Nekob comptez environ 5 h ensuite à partir de Nékob environ 40 km de goudron puis à un moment vous aurez une petite auberge sur votre droite d'où part une piste pour Tatchena prenez cette piste elle vous méne à Zagora sans passer par Tansik c'est plus court (60 Km) vous arriverez sur Zagora par la palmeraie c'est assez sympa !!!! Ensuite si vous voulez plonger dans le désert prenez l'ancienne piste des Caravane à l'angle de l'hôtel "la Palmeraie" en face de la Wilaya jusqu'à Anagam passez ce col par le goudron puis aps les georges à environ, 12 Km prenez la piste sur votre gauche pour la palmeraie de Nesrate puis par cette magnifique palmeraie vous arriverez à Tagounite si vous ête préssé prenez le goudron jusqu'a M'Hamid ou si vous voulez encore du désert traversez la route à Tagounite sortez du village par l'Ouest suivez la montagne Banni qui est sur votre gauche puis vous arriverez sur une piste un peu encaissée et assez cassante qui débouchera sur un oued prenez à gauche dans l'Oued puis un peu aps le fort militaire prenez encore la piste à gauche en direction de M'Hamid au loin vous distinguerez les dunes de L'erg Lihoudi la piste se perd et poursuivez au cap en visant ces dunes (les plus hautes) et vous arriverez sur une multitude de campement pour touristes, rejoignez le goudron vers l'Est puis M'hamid !! ensuite pour Chigaga vous avez deux possibilité par le sable (tout droit à la sortir de M'Hamid ) ou par du dur (à droite à la sortie) pas besoin d'équipement quoi qu'en disent certain !!! si vous prenez par la piste dure allez jusqu'a l'oasis sacrée et vous arriverez aux dunes en piquant au sud aps l'oasis pas besoin de GPS non plus il par contre si vous n'avez pas l'habitude du désert un guide est vivement conseillé puis aps Chigaga vous piquez toujours plein Ouest pour rejoindre le lac Iriki puis Foum Zguid .... puis goudron pour Ouarzazate mais c'est long 4 h de goudron + environ 6h de M'Hamid à Foum Zguid mais super trip
Bon séjour
Si vous voulez d'autre conseille à votre dispo par MP
P-S n'écouter pas la multitude de rabateurs déguisés en touriste qui vous donne les adresses de leur potes sur ce site
Pat
merci beaucoup de tout ces renseignements, c'est genial. tout compte fait je crois que l'on ne va pas remonter sur zazate par foum zguid mais plutot par la vallee du drâa. ça risque d'etre vraiment trop long...
est-ce qu'on peut dormir dans des tentes berberes à chigaga? un peu à l'eccart des touristes.
connait-tu quelqu'un las bas ou l(on pourrait dormir dans leur tentes et connait tu un guide pas trop cher pour le desert
Re ......... Re .......... lol ....
Si vous voulez remontez par la vallée du Draa dans ce cas je vous conseille de prendre à partir de Foum Zguid la piste au nord du Banni elle hyper roulante sur 40 Km mais attention ne pas rouler trop vite sinon crevaison assurée !!! je dis ça en connaissance de cause !!!!! ensuite c'est un peu plus cassant mais totalement sauvage et pas du tout fréquenter par les hordes de touristes, vous arriverez sur Zagora par une piste un peu plus sableuse. Si vous voulez des tuyaux plus précis contactez moi par MP car donner des adresses ici c'est contraire à la chartre et je n'ai pas envie de passer pour un rabateur comme il y en a tant ici car je suis contre ça !!!!!!! Et je n'en suis pas un !!!!!! simplement un amoureux du désert et du Maroc !!!!!
A Chigaga il y pas mal de campement désseminés dans les dunes perso, je vous conseille de prendre vos tentes et de vous arréter la où ça vous semble bien au grés de votre envie !!!! D'ailleur dans ces lieux magiques rien ne vaut un matelas par terre et la nuit à la belle étoile.
A bientôt en MP alors !!!!!
Pat
" pas besoin d'équipement quoi qu'en disent certain !!! "
Je suppose que cette remarque m'est destinée étant donné que j'ai conseillé de partir avec un 4x4 équipé. Je précise tout de même que j'entends par 4x4 équipé, un véhicule avec de bon pneus (au Maroc ça peut servir), des plaques à sable ainsi qu'un compresseur de qualité pour remettre les pressions aprés dégonflage lors du passage de sable mou. Cela me semble le matériel minimum à emporter lorsque l'on se déplace dans des zones d'erg. Je compare le raid dans le desert (milieu plus ou moins hostile géographiquement) à la randonnée en haute montagne sur glacier. Pour s'aventurer seul dans ces deux milieux, il est quand même nécessaire de disposer déjà d'une certaine expérience et de partir avec le minimun de matériel pour pouvoir faire face aux divers imprévus. Pour ma part, je ne donnerai jamais le conseil à un néophyte de partir sur glacier sans crampons, piolet ni corde, même si connaissant bien le secteur et étant habitué de la haute montagne, je pense que la course est sans risque ! C'est donc dans le même esprit que je conseil de partir avec un 4x4 équipé . Le coin de chegaga, notamment la piste direct de mahmid, présente des passage de sable mou qui peut présenter des difficultés à qui n'est pas à l'aise dans la conduite d'un 4x4.
" pas besoin de GPS non plus il par contre si vous n'avez pas l'habitude du désert un guide est vivement conseillé "
Alors là c'est un choix à faire !!! soit il a pris un gps depuis le début du parcourt, soit il lui faut également un guide depuis son départ, car sans aucune expérience du désert Marocain je doute qu'il ne soit arrivé jusque là!
Enfin les conseilleurs ne sont pas les payeurs ...
perju
Je suppose que cette remarque m'est destinée étant donné que j'ai conseillé de partir avec un 4x4 équipé. Je précise tout de même que j'entends par 4x4 équipé, un véhicule avec de bon pneus (au Maroc ça peut servir), des plaques à sable ainsi qu'un compresseur de qualité pour remettre les pressions aprés dégonflage lors du passage de sable mou. Cela me semble le matériel minimum à emporter lorsque l'on se déplace dans des zones d'erg. Je compare le raid dans le desert (milieu plus ou moins hostile géographiquement) à la randonnée en haute montagne sur glacier. Pour s'aventurer seul dans ces deux milieux, il est quand même nécessaire de disposer déjà d'une certaine expérience et de partir avec le minimun de matériel pour pouvoir faire face aux divers imprévus. Pour ma part, je ne donnerai jamais le conseil à un néophyte de partir sur glacier sans crampons, piolet ni corde, même si connaissant bien le secteur et étant habitué de la haute montagne, je pense que la course est sans risque ! C'est donc dans le même esprit que je conseil de partir avec un 4x4 équipé . Le coin de chegaga, notamment la piste direct de mahmid, présente des passage de sable mou qui peut présenter des difficultés à qui n'est pas à l'aise dans la conduite d'un 4x4.
" pas besoin de GPS non plus il par contre si vous n'avez pas l'habitude du désert un guide est vivement conseillé "
Alors là c'est un choix à faire !!! soit il a pris un gps depuis le début du parcourt, soit il lui faut également un guide depuis son départ, car sans aucune expérience du désert Marocain je doute qu'il ne soit arrivé jusque là!
Enfin les conseilleurs ne sont pas les payeurs ...
perju
Qui boit l'eau d'une terre étrangère doit en suivre les coutumes (proverbe Mongol)
Bonsoir
Ben oui mais personnellement je n'ai jamais rien prie de particulier et je n'ai jamais eu problème majeur et je n'ai jamais vue les transports touristiques land et toy équipés de plaques etc .... mais bien sur ils n'escaladent pas les dunes et les passages de sable sont facile dans la région M'Hamid Foum Zguid et l'on peut même les éviter complètement aucun soucis avec un 4x4 en bon état !!
Pat
Bonjour,
Je suiss très intéréssée par ce bout de route, à vrai dire j'y pensais dès le début pour me raviser ensuite car probablement difficile.
Je pars avec ma famille ds trois semaines ( 2A et 2E), suis seule conductrice, l'idée est de louer un 4*4mais je ne suis pas très expérimentée. Le circuit que vous décrivez m'est il accessible sans trop de risque? les temps de trajet sont ils faisaibles en une journée? entre Boulmanes et Mahmid? faut il prevoir une escale à Nkob ou à Tazzarine?
Merci d'avance.
moi non plus j ai pas de plaques faut dire que ça passe bien sur lautoroute😉
ok avec toi perju
un homme prevenu en vaux deux 😛
si le circuit est fait par plusieur voitures on peut remplacer les plaques par des bonnes sangles mais seul pas de probleme sable = equipement
si le circuit est fait par plusieur voitures on peut remplacer les plaques par des bonnes sangles mais seul pas de probleme sable = equipement
vaut mieux un grain de sable dans la chaussure que dans la capote (Mr COLUCHE
mondial 45 la on a gagnè (nous avions deux goals)
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It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available. What do you recommend? Book ahead or not? Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me. Roberto
Hi there,
Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights) - Aït Ben Haddou (1 night) - Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days) - M'hamid (1 night) - Erg Chigaga (1 night) - 4 nights to slot in - Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question: For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Thanks for your help!
Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights) - Aït Ben Haddou (1 night) - Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days) - M'hamid (1 night) - Erg Chigaga (1 night) - 4 nights to slot in - Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question: For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Thanks for your help!
Hello to all Morocco lovers,
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
Fran
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
Fran
hi there,
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Thanks in advance for your help....
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Thanks in advance for your help....
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We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April. What do you think of this rate? This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Thanks
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April. What do you think of this rate? This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Thanks
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available? -Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)? -Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
Marie
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available? -Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)? -Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
Marie
Hi there!
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?) - What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!) - In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid? - Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country? - A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
Thanks so much for your advice!
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?) - What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!) - In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid? - Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country? - A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
Thanks so much for your advice!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you: - Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why? - Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies. - Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car? - Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years. Have a great evening, Roberto
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you: - Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why? - Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies. - Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car? - Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years. Have a great evening, Roberto
hi, I just wanted to know the exchange rate for euros in Tunisia, thanks
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
Hi there,
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili? If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them. I didn’t find any info on the forum. Best,
Fouzi
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili? If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them. I didn’t find any info on the forum. Best,
Fouzi
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hi everyone,
We're leaving in early October 2026 and planning to travel from the Aït Bougmez Valley ("Happy Valley") to Skoura/Ouarzazate via Demnate and the R307/N23 route.
Has anyone taken this road recently? Is it passable with a regular car (non-4x4), or is a 4x4 absolutely necessary? Are there any ongoing construction projects or degraded sections to be aware of?
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there, 🙂
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities. Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Thanks
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities. Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Thanks
Based on your experiences, do you have a professional to recommend?
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency. If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling. We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback! Safe travels to all, Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency. If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling. We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback! Safe travels to all, Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi, I'm looking for a taxi from Dakhla airport to downtown Dakhla.
If you know a contact ?????
Hi there,
I’m looking for info about driving a vehicle in Tunisia.
Is it complicated?
Do I need an international driver’s permit?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Any recommendations?
Have a great day
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Any recommendations?
Have a great day
It's all in the title.
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
I know there are experts on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
I know there are experts on this forum.
Thanks in advance