nous sommes un couple qui partons à LA le 16 mai au matin pour 13 jours sur place, retour le 31 en France (départ le 30).C'est u peu flou au niveau des distances et de notre parcours mais nosu ne voulons pas nous attarder sur les parcs nationaux, en voir un (quel est le + plus beau?). Arrivée à LA le 16- 3 nuits sur place Nous pensions ensuite nous diriger vers San Diego - 1nuit puis aller jusqu'à LA PAz, basse californie pour sa superbe plage et les petites villes mexicaines. -1 nuit direction Vegas -pas encore d'hôtel si vous avez des conseils?? -1 nuit car nous ne sommes pas joueurs et très fans à l'idée d'y rester 2 jours 1 parc national, monument valley, death valley direction SF par Monterey - combien de nuits?+ route des vins, nappa valley?? retour à LA Qu'en pensez vous?au niveau des kms?de la fatigue?si nous nous arretons vers le mexique, san diego c'est aussi pour prendre notre temps, profiter des plages...le but n'étant pas d'avaler des kms pour dire que l'on y est passé, mais on veut aussi en profiter car on ne va pas y retourner de suite...merci à tous d'avance de vos conseils
Avis sur itinéraire de treize jours en mai dans l'Ouest des Etats-Unis
by Martialsteph
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bonjour,
nous sommes un couple qui partons à LA le 16 mai au matin pour 13 jours sur place, retour le 31 en France (départ le 30).C'est u peu flou au niveau des distances et de notre parcours mais nosu ne voulons pas nous attarder sur les parcs nationaux, en voir un (quel est le + plus beau?). Arrivée à LA le 16- 3 nuits sur place Nous pensions ensuite nous diriger vers San Diego - 1nuit puis aller jusqu'à LA PAz, basse californie pour sa superbe plage et les petites villes mexicaines. -1 nuit direction Vegas -pas encore d'hôtel si vous avez des conseils?? -1 nuit car nous ne sommes pas joueurs et très fans à l'idée d'y rester 2 jours 1 parc national, monument valley, death valley direction SF par Monterey - combien de nuits?+ route des vins, nappa valley?? retour à LA Qu'en pensez vous?au niveau des kms?de la fatigue?si nous nous arretons vers le mexique, san diego c'est aussi pour prendre notre temps, profiter des plages...le but n'étant pas d'avaler des kms pour dire que l'on y est passé, mais on veut aussi en profiter car on ne va pas y retourner de suite...merci à tous d'avance de vos conseils
nous sommes un couple qui partons à LA le 16 mai au matin pour 13 jours sur place, retour le 31 en France (départ le 30).C'est u peu flou au niveau des distances et de notre parcours mais nosu ne voulons pas nous attarder sur les parcs nationaux, en voir un (quel est le + plus beau?). Arrivée à LA le 16- 3 nuits sur place Nous pensions ensuite nous diriger vers San Diego - 1nuit puis aller jusqu'à LA PAz, basse californie pour sa superbe plage et les petites villes mexicaines. -1 nuit direction Vegas -pas encore d'hôtel si vous avez des conseils?? -1 nuit car nous ne sommes pas joueurs et très fans à l'idée d'y rester 2 jours 1 parc national, monument valley, death valley direction SF par Monterey - combien de nuits?+ route des vins, nappa valley?? retour à LA Qu'en pensez vous?au niveau des kms?de la fatigue?si nous nous arretons vers le mexique, san diego c'est aussi pour prendre notre temps, profiter des plages...le but n'étant pas d'avaler des kms pour dire que l'on y est passé, mais on veut aussi en profiter car on ne va pas y retourner de suite...merci à tous d'avance de vos conseils
martial et stéph
Bonjour,
En toute premiere chose, je trouve vraiment domage de revenir a LA a la fin de ton sejour apres y avoir deja passe 3 jours au debut. Pourquoi ne pas repartir directement de Sans Fransico ? Cela te ferait gagner vraiment beaucoup de temps, et de kilometres...Il serait meme mieux d'arriver a San Francisco, redescendre la cote ouest puis ensuite repartir de Vegas vers la France.
Si tu as deja achete les billets et qu'il ne sont pas modifiables, tans pis mais c'est vraiment domage.
Ensuite je ne comprends pas pourquoi tu veux passer par Monterey en allant a San Fransico (en venant de Vegas) alors qu'apres tu redescends vers LA. Pourquoi ne pas passer pas Monterey apres ton sejour a SF et redescendre par la route 1 qui est un incontournable de la Californie?
Si tu veux aller au Mexique pour te reposer et profiter des plages, oublies cette idee, tu n'auras vraiment pas le temps pour cela dans ton parcours, surtout si tu passe 3 jours a LA (ce qui me semble bien trop sur un sejour de 13 jours). A ta place je zapperais la partie Mexique, et meme la partie Sans Diego, surtout si ce n'est que pour une nuit.
SF merite au moins 3 jours de visite. LA 1 jour ou 2 si tu veux visiter les studios (je n'ai pas aime, mais les gouts ne se discutent pas). Las Vegas 1 jour et une nuit minimum meme si tu ne joue pas. Entre SF et LA par Monterey/Carmel et la route 1, il faut compter 2 jours. Death Valley, 1 jours minimum. Si tu comptes les temps de routes, les 13 jours sont epuises donc le Mexique c'est peut etre pas la peine.
Pour les parcs nationaux, la question n'est pas quel est le plus beau mais plutot quel est celui sur ta route. Death Valley est sur ta route. Monument Valley n'est pas du tout dans ton circuit (je te conseille de regarder une carte).
Pour les trajets, tu peux regarder sur ce site les temps de route http://maps.yahoo.com/dd sans perdre de vue que la vitesse est limite aux USA et que tu ne dois pas t'amuser a aller plus vite car sinon ca fait tres mal, les policiers americains ne sont pas tres conciliants avec les depassements et les amendes sont importantes. Comptes plus large que les temps annonces sur le site.
Voila, en esperant avoir pu t'aider un peu.
Bon voyage!
En toute premiere chose, je trouve vraiment domage de revenir a LA a la fin de ton sejour apres y avoir deja passe 3 jours au debut. Pourquoi ne pas repartir directement de Sans Fransico ? Cela te ferait gagner vraiment beaucoup de temps, et de kilometres...Il serait meme mieux d'arriver a San Francisco, redescendre la cote ouest puis ensuite repartir de Vegas vers la France.
Si tu as deja achete les billets et qu'il ne sont pas modifiables, tans pis mais c'est vraiment domage.
Ensuite je ne comprends pas pourquoi tu veux passer par Monterey en allant a San Fransico (en venant de Vegas) alors qu'apres tu redescends vers LA. Pourquoi ne pas passer pas Monterey apres ton sejour a SF et redescendre par la route 1 qui est un incontournable de la Californie?
Si tu veux aller au Mexique pour te reposer et profiter des plages, oublies cette idee, tu n'auras vraiment pas le temps pour cela dans ton parcours, surtout si tu passe 3 jours a LA (ce qui me semble bien trop sur un sejour de 13 jours). A ta place je zapperais la partie Mexique, et meme la partie Sans Diego, surtout si ce n'est que pour une nuit.
SF merite au moins 3 jours de visite. LA 1 jour ou 2 si tu veux visiter les studios (je n'ai pas aime, mais les gouts ne se discutent pas). Las Vegas 1 jour et une nuit minimum meme si tu ne joue pas. Entre SF et LA par Monterey/Carmel et la route 1, il faut compter 2 jours. Death Valley, 1 jours minimum. Si tu comptes les temps de routes, les 13 jours sont epuises donc le Mexique c'est peut etre pas la peine.
Pour les parcs nationaux, la question n'est pas quel est le plus beau mais plutot quel est celui sur ta route. Death Valley est sur ta route. Monument Valley n'est pas du tout dans ton circuit (je te conseille de regarder une carte).
Pour les trajets, tu peux regarder sur ce site les temps de route http://maps.yahoo.com/dd sans perdre de vue que la vitesse est limite aux USA et que tu ne dois pas t'amuser a aller plus vite car sinon ca fait tres mal, les policiers americains ne sont pas tres conciliants avec les depassements et les amendes sont importantes. Comptes plus large que les temps annonces sur le site.
Voila, en esperant avoir pu t'aider un peu.
Bon voyage!
Audrey
Le passage au mexique est interdit par la majorité des loueurs de voitures🤪
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow mindedness, all foes to real understanding. Likewise, tolerance, or broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in our little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. -- Mark Twain
Je l'ai fait une fois, mais je ne me rappelle plus avec quel loueur, depuis Los angeles.
Ils ont accepté sans supplément de prix, mais m'ont obligé à prendre une assurance spéciale au passage de la frontière à Tijuana, toutes les leurs étant caduques au Mexique.
Autrement dit, si ça n'a pas changé, le passage est bien possible (bien qu'on voit souvent écrit le contraire chez les loueurs d'auto), mais les assurances fournies par le loueur ne sont pas valables. Je pense néanmoins qu'il faut bien s'assurer de cela auparavant avec le loueur, et le faire préciser sur le contrat.
Autrement dit, si ça n'a pas changé, le passage est bien possible (bien qu'on voit souvent écrit le contraire chez les loueurs d'auto), mais les assurances fournies par le loueur ne sont pas valables. Je pense néanmoins qu'il faut bien s'assurer de cela auparavant avec le loueur, et le faire préciser sur le contrat.
De l'Alaska à l'Arizona : contrastes. Voir https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=4396533#4396533
Dans la vie, le pire qui pourrait nous arriver serait qu'il ne nous arrive rien !
Dans la vie, le pire qui pourrait nous arriver serait qu'il ne nous arrive rien !
Bonjour Martial et Steph,
C'est vrai que la route 1 de San Francisco a Los Angeles est un incontournable! C'est magnifique! Oui, il faut passer quelques jous a San Francisco, et compter 3 jours de route pour se rendre a Los Angeles (je l'ai deja fait en 2 jours, et c'etait beaucoup trop court). Sur cette route, vous pouvez vous arreter pour quelques heures dans un parc habritant des sequoias.
Bonne preparation!
Naty 🙂
Sur tous mes contrats il a été noté qu'on ne pouvait pas passer au Mexique avec la voiture🙁.. pas que sur le site web..🤪😉
Je crois que c'est hertz qui autorisait le passage de la frontière il y a quelques années... mais de mémoire, et ce n'est peut être pas fiable ou plus valable😊
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow mindedness, all foes to real understanding. Likewise, tolerance, or broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in our little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. -- Mark Twain
"le but n'étant pas d'avaler des kilomètres"
Il faut d'urgence que vous vous penchiez sur une carte et considériez les kilometres et les temps de parcours.....
Pour l'instant votre projet n'est qu'une addition de rêves mais le tout ne correspond à rien de réalisable en 13 jours sauf à disposer d'un jet privé....
votre projet mexicain est tout simplement incomprehensible (la paz est à 1400 KM DE TIJUANA)
Voyager, c'est demander d'un coup à la distance ce que le temps ne pourrait nous donner que peu à peu, c'est gagner son procès contre l'habitude.
Bonjour,
à mon avis oubliez le Mexique pour cette fois: outre les tracasseries du passage de la frontière, la traversée de la Basse Californie est trop longue et peu interessante (Tijuana est une des villes les plus moches qui soit!). Mieux vaut garder le Mexique pour un autre voyage
je vous conseille plutot une escapade vers le Grand Canyon à partir de Las Vegas (et si possible une continuation vers Monument Valley)
à partir de SFrancisco, vous pouvez traverser la baie vers le Nord pour visiter les vallées de Napa et Sonoma
il y aussi la possibilité de voir yosemite dans la Sierra nevada
"lorsqu'au crépuscule de ma vie je me retournerai, je dirai: c'est moi qui ai vécu et non un ètre factice créé par mes ennuis et mes regrets"
bonsoir,
tout d'abord merci pour vos réponses à tous, malheureusement nous ne pouvions modifier notre billet donc nous avons reconsidéré notre séjour grace à vous tous.Alors voici notre nouveau parcours, qu'ne pensez vous? Nous arrivons le 16 mai, à 21h à LA. Le samedi 19 départ sur San Diego Le 20 ou 21 départ sur Vegas (avez vous des hotels a suggerer?tout reste très cher malgré l'arrivée le lundi) Le 22 Départ sur Grand Canyon, (nuit à Vegas ou sur place?). Le 23 départ pour Bryce Canyon (où dormir..?) Le 24 départ pour Yosemite Le 25 départ pour SF pour 3 jours. Le 28 départ pour Carmel/Monterey Le 29 Départ pour Santa Barbara ou autre..? Le 30 retour sur LA pour dernière nuit (vol le matin) Retour sur Paris, snif! Nous avons bien évidemment une voiture en location et beaucoup de kms à faire mais jeunes et valeureux...! Bref, dans l'attente de vos conseils... merci d'avance Martial et Steph
tout d'abord merci pour vos réponses à tous, malheureusement nous ne pouvions modifier notre billet donc nous avons reconsidéré notre séjour grace à vous tous.Alors voici notre nouveau parcours, qu'ne pensez vous? Nous arrivons le 16 mai, à 21h à LA. Le samedi 19 départ sur San Diego Le 20 ou 21 départ sur Vegas (avez vous des hotels a suggerer?tout reste très cher malgré l'arrivée le lundi) Le 22 Départ sur Grand Canyon, (nuit à Vegas ou sur place?). Le 23 départ pour Bryce Canyon (où dormir..?) Le 24 départ pour Yosemite Le 25 départ pour SF pour 3 jours. Le 28 départ pour Carmel/Monterey Le 29 Départ pour Santa Barbara ou autre..? Le 30 retour sur LA pour dernière nuit (vol le matin) Retour sur Paris, snif! Nous avons bien évidemment une voiture en location et beaucoup de kms à faire mais jeunes et valeureux...! Bref, dans l'attente de vos conseils... merci d'avance Martial et Steph
martial et stéph
ça le fait pas bien🤪
Vous n'avez pas compté les temps de route et de visites... c'est un circuit impossible en l'état...🙁
Le 22...nuit a Las Vegas... NUIT A GRAND CANYON
Grand Canyon -Bryce, avez vous regardé le kilometrage???? vous visitez quand???? vous passez a côté de Monument Valley, sans même un regard, alors que vous perdez du temps a aller a San Diego
J24, depart pour Yosemite... vous avez vu le kilometrage???? La tioga pass etant fermée..vous devez passer par Bakesfield Fresno... une douzaine d'heures de route... je n'ai pas calculé... et ce, sans compter la visite du parc de nuit🤪😐
etc etc
c'est un circuit impossible
il y a des solutions, mais il va falloir faire des choix..laisser tomber San Diego ou San franciso, ou prendre un vol interieur et relouer une voiture pour la derniere partie, mais de toutes façons vous ne pouvez pas faire un tel circuit comme vous l'indiquez
Vous n'avez pas compté les temps de route et de visites... c'est un circuit impossible en l'état...🙁
Le 22...nuit a Las Vegas... NUIT A GRAND CANYON
Grand Canyon -Bryce, avez vous regardé le kilometrage???? vous visitez quand???? vous passez a côté de Monument Valley, sans même un regard, alors que vous perdez du temps a aller a San Diego
J24, depart pour Yosemite... vous avez vu le kilometrage???? La tioga pass etant fermée..vous devez passer par Bakesfield Fresno... une douzaine d'heures de route... je n'ai pas calculé... et ce, sans compter la visite du parc de nuit🤪😐
etc etc
c'est un circuit impossible
il y a des solutions, mais il va falloir faire des choix..laisser tomber San Diego ou San franciso, ou prendre un vol interieur et relouer une voiture pour la derniere partie, mais de toutes façons vous ne pouvez pas faire un tel circuit comme vous l'indiquez
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow mindedness, all foes to real understanding. Likewise, tolerance, or broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in our little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. -- Mark Twain
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I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine