Japon: passer une nuit dans un temple du mont Koya?
by Celineherve
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
je vais me rendre avec mon mari au japon au mois de mars, et nous aimerions passer une nuit dans un temple du mont koya.
Quelqu'un a-t-il déjà vécu cette expérience et pourrais me dire si :ca vaut le coup de rester une nuit ou plutot 2? (il y a un long trajet depuis kyoto non?)me conseiller un temple ou dormir (pas évident a avoir beaucoup de renseignements).c'est vrai qu'il y a des cafards?
merci !
Tu peux jetter un oeil sur ce guide pour avoir des infos complémentaires sur Koya-san:
http://www.secret-japan.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=308
Ce site officiel en anglais permet d'en savoir plus sur le logement dans les temples : http://www.shukubo.jp/eng/
Une nuit me paraît amplement suffisante pour profiter de l'endroit. Par contre, y passer une nuit vaut la peine...
sanji
http://www.secret-japan.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=308
Ce site officiel en anglais permet d'en savoir plus sur le logement dans les temples : http://www.shukubo.jp/eng/
Une nuit me paraît amplement suffisante pour profiter de l'endroit. Par contre, y passer une nuit vaut la peine...
sanji
merci pour le tuyau
bon c'est quand meme difficile d'avoir des renseignements sur les temples qui hébergent, mais je me suis quand meme decidee et j'ai envoyé un mail au eko in pour voir.
quelqu'un connait?
par contre ma question sur les cafards tien toujours...
Des cafards, au Japon, on en trouve absolument partout...
Par contre, pas en mars et certainement pas en altitude, donc je pense qu'il est raisonnable de dire que les chances d'en rencontrer dans votre chambre seront à peu près nulles...
sanji
Par contre, pas en mars et certainement pas en altitude, donc je pense qu'il est raisonnable de dire que les chances d'en rencontrer dans votre chambre seront à peu près nulles...
sanji
cool me voila rassuree, bon ben j'espere que ca va etre sympa !
Je suis allée l'année derniere en janvier à Koya san, et ça vaut vraiment beaucoup le detour, c est un lieu de retraite qui effectivement n'a pour hebergement que des monasteres. J ai dormi au Sekisho in, une experience tres sympa. Il faut savoir qu'il y a des monasteres plus ou moins "touristique" . J ai beaucoup aimé le Sekisho In pour son authenticité car j ai vu d'autre monastere resemblant un peu a des musée, mais apres, c est selon ses gouts. Le sekisho in offre de petites chambres japonaises avec futon, tres simple mais tres propre. Une salle de bains privative avec douche. Les chambres sont chauffées, par contre des que l'on sort de sa chambre, plus de chauffage!! ( un vrai monastere :o) ) Mais on peu assister a la priere des moines le matin vers 5h00 ( ils cognent a votre porte pour vous prevenir ), les repas sont servis dans une grande salle sur des tatamis, et ce ne sont que des repas vegetariens japonais bien sur ( petit dejeuner et diner inclus ) .
Le cadre autour du monastere est tres joli, il est juste a coté de l'entrée du celèbre cimetiere de stele dans une immense foret ! C est vraiment tres joli !!!
Gwen
Bonjour, excellent plan, le mont Koya est quelque chose de vraiment merveilleux, mais pour vraiment apprécier, il faudrait rester au moint trois jours. En plus, la vie dans un monastère est un bain de beauté et vous y apprendrez beaucoup rien qu'à observer.
Il y a plusieurs temples magnifiques à visiter ainsi que le cimetière octo-centenaire... Ce n'est pas très couru des Européens, mais vous y verrez des myriades de groupes de touristes japonais, très gais, y compris dans les monastères! Vous aurez probablement un jeune bonze à votre service, il apprend ainsi un peu le monde et a classe le soir. Il y a, bien sûr, des bains, mais n'essayez pas de tenter d'y aller aux heures des Japonaises ou des Japonais. Ils nous croient plus pudiques qu'eux, impossible de leur faire entendre raison (il est vrai qu'ils se trempent dans les bassins bouillants tout nus, après scrupuleux savonnage. On nous fait donc nous baigner avant les heures.
Pour le voyage, je vous renvoie au membre Serow, il vous dira le trajet précisément, mais on part d'Osaka et on finit le trajet en funiculaire. Je vous copie ci-dessous sa carte, c'est vraiment précieux d'avoir tous ses renseignements, car si les Japonais savent l'anglais, ils hésitent souvent à le parler car très perfectionnistes... et les gares sont pour nous du chinois car même les chiffres ne sont pas toujours arabes!
Beau voyage!
Il y a plusieurs temples magnifiques à visiter ainsi que le cimetière octo-centenaire... Ce n'est pas très couru des Européens, mais vous y verrez des myriades de groupes de touristes japonais, très gais, y compris dans les monastères! Vous aurez probablement un jeune bonze à votre service, il apprend ainsi un peu le monde et a classe le soir. Il y a, bien sûr, des bains, mais n'essayez pas de tenter d'y aller aux heures des Japonaises ou des Japonais. Ils nous croient plus pudiques qu'eux, impossible de leur faire entendre raison (il est vrai qu'ils se trempent dans les bassins bouillants tout nus, après scrupuleux savonnage. On nous fait donc nous baigner avant les heures.
Pour le voyage, je vous renvoie au membre Serow, il vous dira le trajet précisément, mais on part d'Osaka et on finit le trajet en funiculaire. Je vous copie ci-dessous sa carte, c'est vraiment précieux d'avoir tous ses renseignements, car si les Japonais savent l'anglais, ils hésitent souvent à le parler car très perfectionnistes... et les gares sont pour nous du chinois car même les chiffres ne sont pas toujours arabes!
Beau voyage!
Il faut être poreux dans le voyage... alors, les choses se passent
Bernard Giraudeau
alala ton experience m'interesse, principalement pour le fait que c'était en janvier et que moi j'y vais en mars. Alors la question qui tue : ca doit cailler grave non?
et puis aussi une autre tite question comme ca : est-ce que tu as pu discuter un petit peu avec des moines ou des bonzes, avoir un échange avec les locaux?
En fait je constate que tous les gens qui y sont allés en gardent un souvenir genial, donc je m'attends a quelque chose de super.
merci pour tes eclaircissements !
celine
affectivement on m'a raconté que parfois les japonais sont tellement perfectionnistes que si on leur demande notre chemin et qu'ils ne peuvent pas nous renseigner ils nous trainent a travers la ville jusqu'a ce qu'ils trouvent !
en tout cas merci pour tous ces récits, car j'ai trouvé très difficile d'avoir des infos sur ce périple, meme le temple a qui j'ai envoyé un mail ne m'a pas donné beaucoup d'indications.
par contre je n'ai pas trouvé la carte de serow, si tu peux me la renvoyer stp !
merci
celine
Je suis allee deux fois au Japon, en Janvier et en Fevrier et oui, il faisait froid ! cela depend aussi des regions ou l'on va ! Dans les Alpes japonaises ( Takayama, Shirakawago et Kanzawa ) j ai eu beaucoup de neige; au Mont Koya, vu que c est en altitude, il faisait egalement tres tres froid !! Sur Tokyo, Kyoto et dans les regions de plaines, le temps etait gris avec quelques petities pluies de temps à autre. J ai malgré tout apprecié mon gros manteau tout le long de mon voyage !! :o)
A Koyasan, je n 'ai pas vraiment pu m'adresser a des moines, deja parce qu'ils ne parlent que japonais en grande majorité, il est aussi tres difficile d'aborder un moine, ils sont ters discrets et renfermé. Et de mémoire ( mais je ne suis plus tres sure ) il me semble qu'ils ne sont pas autorisé à parler avec des femmes ( j ai un doute sur la chose, il faudra que je fasse une recherche ) ...
Maintenant parle à des japonais ( autre que des moins :o) ) au Japon, c'est tres facile, et meme s'ils ne parlent pas bien anglais !Emmene un petit guide de conversation Japonaise, ton effort pout dire quelques mots leur fera grand plaisir! Ils sont tres aimables, et feront tout pour t'aider si besoin. Le seul gros soucis des japonais est qu'ils ne savent pas dire non, quitte à te dire n'importe quoi, le japonais a tres peur de decevoir!
A Koya san, c est toute l'atmosphere du lieu qui est un lieu sacré, et l'experience d'un sejour en monastere qui est oubliable !
A Koyasan, je n 'ai pas vraiment pu m'adresser a des moines, deja parce qu'ils ne parlent que japonais en grande majorité, il est aussi tres difficile d'aborder un moine, ils sont ters discrets et renfermé. Et de mémoire ( mais je ne suis plus tres sure ) il me semble qu'ils ne sont pas autorisé à parler avec des femmes ( j ai un doute sur la chose, il faudra que je fasse une recherche ) ...
Maintenant parle à des japonais ( autre que des moins :o) ) au Japon, c'est tres facile, et meme s'ils ne parlent pas bien anglais !Emmene un petit guide de conversation Japonaise, ton effort pout dire quelques mots leur fera grand plaisir! Ils sont tres aimables, et feront tout pour t'aider si besoin. Le seul gros soucis des japonais est qu'ils ne savent pas dire non, quitte à te dire n'importe quoi, le japonais a tres peur de decevoir!
A Koya san, c est toute l'atmosphere du lieu qui est un lieu sacré, et l'experience d'un sejour en monastere qui est oubliable !
Gwen
j'ai vraiment hâte d'y être.
Encore une dernière tite question, mais je pense connaître la réponse : il doit certainement faire nuit tôt non? en général en montagne c'est le cas je crois...
oui, de mémoire, le soleil doit se coucher vers 17h30 - 18h00 si je me souviens bien ! :o)
Gwen
ok merci c'est juste pour pouvoir calculer a peu près notre temps de visite.
bon ben ça y est c'est fait, j'ai réservé dans un temple près de l'arret de bus et ou l'on peut pratiquer le zazen!
il ne me reste plus qu'à piétiner d'impatiente devant mon ordi!
celine
bonjour,
je pars également au japon, on sera trois, pour un mois du 9 avril au 9 mai, à vrai dire en plein printemps; donc bonjour les foules de collegiens !
On envisage passer une nuit dans un des temples de koya San, par contre j'ai lu dans les guides qu'une nuit là bas est relativement onéreux. est ce vrai? je n'ai trouvé aucune indication sur ces tarifs, meme sur le site officiel du koya San. mais peu importe le prix si ça vaut vraiment le coup ! 😉
je me demande si les temples pratiquent des tarifs qui varient? vu que vous disez qu'il y a des monasteres plus ou moins "touristiques"
merci d'avance !
je pars également au japon, on sera trois, pour un mois du 9 avril au 9 mai, à vrai dire en plein printemps; donc bonjour les foules de collegiens !
On envisage passer une nuit dans un des temples de koya San, par contre j'ai lu dans les guides qu'une nuit là bas est relativement onéreux. est ce vrai? je n'ai trouvé aucune indication sur ces tarifs, meme sur le site officiel du koya San. mais peu importe le prix si ça vaut vraiment le coup ! 😉
je me demande si les temples pratiquent des tarifs qui varient? vu que vous disez qu'il y a des monasteres plus ou moins "touristiques"
merci d'avance !
Gardez en mémoire que Koya-san reste très populaire pour les touristes étrangers... A chaque fois que j'y suis allé, j'ai été surpris de rencontrer autant de touristes non-asiatiques. Je suppose que c'est devenu très populaire pour les personnes visitant le Kansai, et que cela s'intègre bien dans un tour Kyoto-Nara-Koyasan-Osaka...
Pour les prix / la réservation, je recopie ce que j'avais posté ici
Le site officiel www.shukubo.jp/eng/index.html est également en anglais, et offre une foule de renseignements et des adresses de plus de 50 temples qui logent des visiteurs!
Japaneseguesthouse www.japaneseguesthouses.com/db/mount_koya/index.htm offre même de faire directement la réservation, sans frais sauf erreur de ma part; il y a de nombreuses photos des différents 5 temples proposés, le tout en anglais.
Shojoshin-in a une excellente réputation - quelques photos ici : http://www.taleofgenji.org/shojoshinin.html
Les prix pour une nuit avec dîner et petit déjeuner tournent autour de 10'000 yen par personne, mais je n'ai pas en effet trouvé les détails pour chaque temple.
sanji
Pour les prix / la réservation, je recopie ce que j'avais posté ici
Le site officiel www.shukubo.jp/eng/index.html est également en anglais, et offre une foule de renseignements et des adresses de plus de 50 temples qui logent des visiteurs!
Japaneseguesthouse www.japaneseguesthouses.com/db/mount_koya/index.htm offre même de faire directement la réservation, sans frais sauf erreur de ma part; il y a de nombreuses photos des différents 5 temples proposés, le tout en anglais.
Shojoshin-in a une excellente réputation - quelques photos ici : http://www.taleofgenji.org/shojoshinin.html
Les prix pour une nuit avec dîner et petit déjeuner tournent autour de 10'000 yen par personne, mais je n'ai pas en effet trouvé les détails pour chaque temple.
sanji
Les temples a Yamagata-ken sont bien moins touristiques que ceux de Koya-san, et la nature est plus sauvage. C'est en fait très différent. Mais je suis presque certain que rien ou pas grand chose n'est accessible en mars dans le nord...
sanji
sanji
Comment faire pour choisir?!
Il y en a tellement de ces temples!
Il y a t il des conseilles ou préférences?
Il y en a tellement de ces temples!
Il y a t il des conseilles ou préférences?
Bonjour,
Koya San est une merveilleuse aventure dans le Japon d'autrefois. Une nuit n'est pas assez, à mon avis, pour prendre l'esprit du lieu, visiter quelques uns des plus beaux temples du Japon dont Kongobu-ji. Shukubo me semble très bien et surtout le cimetière pluricentenaire, très particulier. Voir ce lien :
http://kyoto-tokyo-2008.blogspot.com/2008/08/shukubo-loger-dans-un-temple-koyasan.html
Les temples en bois sont entièrement reconstruits tous les 20 ans sur les plans anciens. Ils sont donc tous en parfait état. Il faut privilégier les temples de type "ryokan", avec parois de papier et tatamis. Vous aurez probablement un jeune bonze à votre service.
Pour les prix, essayez plutôt de passer par un office de tourisme de Koyasan ou Japonais plutôt que par une agence européenne qui prend sa marge.
Belle découverte!
Les temples en bois sont entièrement reconstruits tous les 20 ans sur les plans anciens. Ils sont donc tous en parfait état. Il faut privilégier les temples de type "ryokan", avec parois de papier et tatamis. Vous aurez probablement un jeune bonze à votre service.
Pour les prix, essayez plutôt de passer par un office de tourisme de Koyasan ou Japonais plutôt que par une agence européenne qui prend sa marge.
Belle découverte!
Il faut être poreux dans le voyage... alors, les choses se passent
Bernard Giraudeau
nous on a dormi au ekoin, qui était vraiment très bien, avec le onsen commun c'était très...traditionnel! chambres avec les murs en papier, des bonzes à votre service qui vous amènent vos repas, déménagent la table basse pour la transformer en lit... réveil pour la prière très tôt le matin... mais super souvenir.
A savoir, les sanitaires sont communs.
par contre, ptit dej végétarien le matin c'était assez dur, et nous qui voulions du dépaysement on s'est retrouvé avec une télé dans la chambre et internet dans le batiment... et dans tout le village, les moines se déplacent dans la dernière suzuki et portent des super baskets. Pas du tout ce à quoi on pensait!
je ne connais pas les autres hébergements mais celui-ci était très bien en tout cas et on a aussi réservé nous-meme par mail (en anglais) avec un moine.
Effectivement, une seule nuit c'était trop court!!
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Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Hello everyone,
Like Cedric13600, I’ve booked a flight ticket for 30 days / 29 nights in September 2026, from Beijing to Shanghai. We’re a couple in our sixties who love independent road trips.
I’d like to draw inspiration from the following private itinerary suggested by a travel agency:
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Hello everyone,
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
Hi,
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
I'm 69 years old and heading to China, where most tourist sites are free or discounted for me. However, trip.com either refuses to let me book because the sites are free or doesn’t apply the discount. Does WeChat apply this discount if I book through them? How can I just reserve without paying and pay on-site? Is that possible?
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
Hi there,
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
Hi there,
We just got back from a 2-week trip to China as a couple, and before we left, the budget was the hardest thing to picture concretely. We found plenty of info on visas, apps, transport, and itineraries, but way fewer detailed breakdowns of what you *actually* spend on the ground.
So, we took the time to share our real budget for 14 days. In our case, we spent around 1,800 € per person, with a big chunk of that going toward round-trip flights at about 600 € per person. We were also pretty surprised by how affordable China can be once you’re there—transport is often cheap, and a lot of everyday expenses stay reasonable.
The trickiest part, in the end, was figuring out how to pay while you’re there, since it’s not always obvious if you’re not prepared. But once everything’s set up and you get the hang of it, it’s really smooth.
If this can help other travelers get a better idea before they go, we’ve broken it all down here:
https://aventures-sans-mesaventure.com/budget-2-semaines-de-voyage-en-chine/
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Hi everyone,
I’ve been planning several itineraries for a trip to Japan with my wife but would love your insights before we start booking!
In short, we want to go during Golden Week, see late-blooming cherry trees, and have the freedom to get around with a rental car.
Here’s the plan:
18-day itinerary in Japan (April 25 → May 12)
Goal: freedom, late cherry blossoms, culture & nature
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
hi! Is it easy to use for paying for all the small purchases at the markets? INSTALLATION AND USE WITHOUT ISSUES—do you also need a VPN for China?
Secondly, for using phone and internet, I have Orange—is it reliable, or should I go with Airalo instead?
Hi there,
The info I found on the forum is a bit outdated, so I’m asking again!
1) What budget should I plan for 15 days, given that hotels with breakfast, transfers, and transport are already paid for? I know it depends on the person, but I’d love a rough idea. For meals, we’re thinking simple street food or small local restaurants.
2) I’ve heard that credit cards (we each have a Revolut + 1 Visa Premier) aren’t widely used and that it’s better to have cash. Can you confirm?
3) Are foreign credit cards still not accepted at bank ATMs? Still 7-Eleven or the Post Office? And what about American Express?
Thanks in advance, Best regards
The info I found on the forum is a bit outdated, so I’m asking again!
1) What budget should I plan for 15 days, given that hotels with breakfast, transfers, and transport are already paid for? I know it depends on the person, but I’d love a rough idea. For meals, we’re thinking simple street food or small local restaurants.
2) I’ve heard that credit cards (we each have a Revolut + 1 Visa Premier) aren’t widely used and that it’s better to have cash. Can you confirm?
3) Are foreign credit cards still not accepted at bank ATMs? Still 7-Eleven or the Post Office? And what about American Express?
Thanks in advance, Best regards
I'm planning a 19-day itinerary in Japan this summer.
For a first trip, Kyoto seems like a must. For the rest, I'm torn between:
- Matsumoto, Takayama, Kanazawa for 5 to 6 days
- Kyoto 4 days
- Nara 2 days
- Koyasan 1 day
- Hakone/Mount Fuji 2 to 3 days
- Tokyo 3 days
Or dedicating the first 6 days to Kyushu.
Maybe there’s less traditional Japan in Kyushu compared to the Japanese Alps? Maybe Kyushu is less crowded? Thanks for your thoughts!
Or dedicating the first 6 days to Kyushu.
Maybe there’s less traditional Japan in Kyushu compared to the Japanese Alps? Maybe Kyushu is less crowded? Thanks for your thoughts!
Hello,
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it. 2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them. 3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days Gyeongju: 2 days Busan: 3 days Jeju: 4 days Seoul: 2 days
Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day,
Sabrina
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it. 2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them. 3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days Gyeongju: 2 days Busan: 3 days Jeju: 4 days Seoul: 2 days
Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day,
Sabrina
Hi there!
I’ll be in Hong Kong from December 31 to January 3, 2027.
Any recommendations for things to see or do?
I’ll be staying in the Kowloon district.
I’d love to visit Lantau Island—what’s the best way to get there? And would you recommend buying a skip-the-line ticket for the cable car? Also, is there an entry fee for the Big Buddha?
I’ll be in Hong Kong from December 31 to January 3, 2027.
Any recommendations for things to see or do?
I’ll be staying in the Kowloon district.
I’d love to visit Lantau Island—what’s the best way to get there? And would you recommend buying a skip-the-line ticket for the cable car? Also, is there an entry fee for the Big Buddha?
Hi everyone who’s reading this!
I’m heading to Taiwan soon and would love some up-to-date info on Wi-Fi. From what I’ve gathered, Taiwan offers it for free, but I’ve heard it’s not secure since it’s not protected by a "password." Since I’ve been traveling outside the EU for years without a local SIM card, I only use Wi-Fi in hotels, restaurants, and cafés. For me, that’s more than enough. So, my question is: Do these places secure their Wi-Fi with a "password"? If not, does buying a SIM card or eSIM seem like the only alternative?
Also, if any of you have recommendations for budget-friendly hotels in the main "cities," I’d love to hear them!
Thanks in advance for your replies! !
I’m heading to Taiwan soon and would love some up-to-date info on Wi-Fi. From what I’ve gathered, Taiwan offers it for free, but I’ve heard it’s not secure since it’s not protected by a "password." Since I’ve been traveling outside the EU for years without a local SIM card, I only use Wi-Fi in hotels, restaurants, and cafés. For me, that’s more than enough. So, my question is: Do these places secure their Wi-Fi with a "password"? If not, does buying a SIM card or eSIM seem like the only alternative?
Also, if any of you have recommendations for budget-friendly hotels in the main "cities," I’d love to hear them!
Thanks in advance for your replies! !
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to China for two at the beginning of April and want to spend 2 nights in the Longji Rice Terraces—either in Dazhai, Tiantouzhaï, or Ping'an. I’ve seen that most of the hotels are made of bamboo, and you can hear every little noise. Since my husband is a very light sleeper, he’d really like to be sure he’ll get a good night’s rest. Can you recommend any quiet, well-soundproofed hotels in the area?
Thanks in advance! !
We’re planning a trip to China for two at the beginning of April and want to spend 2 nights in the Longji Rice Terraces—either in Dazhai, Tiantouzhaï, or Ping'an. I’ve seen that most of the hotels are made of bamboo, and you can hear every little noise. Since my husband is a very light sleeper, he’d really like to be sure he’ll get a good night’s rest. Can you recommend any quiet, well-soundproofed hotels in the area?
Thanks in advance! !
Hello everyone,
I’m reaching out to you because I’m planning our next big trip (Japan is really tempting us for the autumn!) and I have to admit, I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed.
My husband and I have always loved traveling, and at 75, we have no intention of stopping... But I find that everything’s getting so complicated. I try to be "modern" by booking online, but as soon as there’s a problem, we hit a wall.
A friend nearly missed her departure last year because of a visa issue that wasn’t explained properly on a website... and no one to call for help, just automated messages.
It makes me a little nervous to be alone in front of a screen so far away, especially since at our age, we like knowing there’s real support if our health takes a turn while we’re there.
Anyway, I’m tired of seeing my file passed from one person to another without ever having the same contact... Do you know of any small, trustworthy agencies or people who still work the "old-fashioned" way and really look after their clients? I love my independence, but I need a real face behind my project.
Thanks in advance for your advice, and I look forward to reading your replies, Catherine
I’m reaching out to you because I’m planning our next big trip (Japan is really tempting us for the autumn!) and I have to admit, I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed.
My husband and I have always loved traveling, and at 75, we have no intention of stopping... But I find that everything’s getting so complicated. I try to be "modern" by booking online, but as soon as there’s a problem, we hit a wall.
A friend nearly missed her departure last year because of a visa issue that wasn’t explained properly on a website... and no one to call for help, just automated messages.
It makes me a little nervous to be alone in front of a screen so far away, especially since at our age, we like knowing there’s real support if our health takes a turn while we’re there.
Anyway, I’m tired of seeing my file passed from one person to another without ever having the same contact... Do you know of any small, trustworthy agencies or people who still work the "old-fashioned" way and really look after their clients? I love my independence, but I need a real face behind my project.
Thanks in advance for your advice, and I look forward to reading your replies, Catherine
Hi everyone,
I’m planning our trip to Japan from March 21 to April 11, 2026. We’re planning to travel by plane for long distances (Okinawa) and by train for the rest. I’d like to know if renting a car is easy and, most importantly, if driving with road signs written in Japanese isn’t too complicated. For trains, are there any tips to save money?
Thanks for your advice!
I’m planning our trip to Japan from March 21 to April 11, 2026. We’re planning to travel by plane for long distances (Okinawa) and by train for the rest. I’d like to know if renting a car is easy and, most importantly, if driving with road signs written in Japanese isn’t too complicated. For trains, are there any tips to save money?
Thanks for your advice!
hi everyone, and first of all, I wish you all a happy new year and good health!
This coming October or November, we’re planning our first trip to Japan. The only downside is we’ll only have two weeks off.
For this first visit, I’m thinking of sticking to the Kyoto and Osaka area… saving Tokyo for another trip. Do you think that’s a good choice for a first-time visit?
I’ve put together a little itinerary below to get some feedback from those in the know. I’m only counting the days we’re actually there, not travel days.
Day 1: Kyoto Ginkaku-ji – Philosopher’s Path with stops at a few shrines temples Eikan-dō and Nanzen-ji visit to the Samurai Ninja Museum in the late afternoon
Day 2: Kyoto Fushimi Inari (allow 4 hours for the hike through the park) visit to Sanjūsangen-dō temple Shōseien garden participate in a tea ceremony
Day 3: Kyoto Kiyomizu-dera temple stroll through the historic district up to Kennin-ji temple visit Kennin-ji temple Yasaka-jinja shrine and Gion district in the late afternoon return to the hotel via Pontochō Street
Day 4: Kyoto visit Kinkaku-ji and Nijō Castle visit the Imperial Palace gardens end the day in the shopping streets (Shibkyogoku and Teramachi, among others)
Day 5: Kyoto Arashiyama area Togetsukyo Bridge, walk along the river, visit the Bamboo Forest explore the area up to Otagi Nenbutsu-ji temple
Day 6: Kyoto hike from Kibune to Kurama
Day 7: Kyoto day trip to Nara (full day)
Day 8: stroll around Kyoto before heading to Osaka
Day 9: Osaka Katsuo-ji temple, then head to Minoh Falls and hike back via the Minoh Trail end the day in the Osaka Castle area
Day 10: Osaka Himeji Castle and an afternoon in Osaka
Day 11: Osaka Osaka and return to the airport in the late afternoon for the flight home
Do you think this itinerary is doable? Are some days too relaxed or too packed? I was thinking of adding a trip to Lake Biwa and Uji, but in that case, I’d have to cut some things. Are those places worth dropping some of the planned spots? And if so, which ones would you recommend cutting or shortening?
Thanks in advance—I’m all ears for both positive and negative feedback! stephane
This coming October or November, we’re planning our first trip to Japan. The only downside is we’ll only have two weeks off.
For this first visit, I’m thinking of sticking to the Kyoto and Osaka area… saving Tokyo for another trip. Do you think that’s a good choice for a first-time visit?
I’ve put together a little itinerary below to get some feedback from those in the know. I’m only counting the days we’re actually there, not travel days.
Day 1: Kyoto Ginkaku-ji – Philosopher’s Path with stops at a few shrines temples Eikan-dō and Nanzen-ji visit to the Samurai Ninja Museum in the late afternoon
Day 2: Kyoto Fushimi Inari (allow 4 hours for the hike through the park) visit to Sanjūsangen-dō temple Shōseien garden participate in a tea ceremony
Day 3: Kyoto Kiyomizu-dera temple stroll through the historic district up to Kennin-ji temple visit Kennin-ji temple Yasaka-jinja shrine and Gion district in the late afternoon return to the hotel via Pontochō Street
Day 4: Kyoto visit Kinkaku-ji and Nijō Castle visit the Imperial Palace gardens end the day in the shopping streets (Shibkyogoku and Teramachi, among others)
Day 5: Kyoto Arashiyama area Togetsukyo Bridge, walk along the river, visit the Bamboo Forest explore the area up to Otagi Nenbutsu-ji temple
Day 6: Kyoto hike from Kibune to Kurama
Day 7: Kyoto day trip to Nara (full day)
Day 8: stroll around Kyoto before heading to Osaka
Day 9: Osaka Katsuo-ji temple, then head to Minoh Falls and hike back via the Minoh Trail end the day in the Osaka Castle area
Day 10: Osaka Himeji Castle and an afternoon in Osaka
Day 11: Osaka Osaka and return to the airport in the late afternoon for the flight home
Do you think this itinerary is doable? Are some days too relaxed or too packed? I was thinking of adding a trip to Lake Biwa and Uji, but in that case, I’d have to cut some things. Are those places worth dropping some of the planned spots? And if so, which ones would you recommend cutting or shortening?
Thanks in advance—I’m all ears for both positive and negative feedback! stephane
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Japan in April/May.
I’ll start my journey in Tokyo for 3 to 4 days.
I’d love your advice on accommodation, transportation, an itinerary, and whether a guide would be useful.
I’m traveling solo and could use a little reassurance.
Before I forget... how do payments work?
Thanks for your help, Petra
Thanks for your help, Petra
Hi there,
I’m looking for someone who could help me organize a trip to Japan for my niece and her son. I’ve seen that French-speaking guides are expensive, and the same goes for going through a tour operator.
Airline, local transportation, hotels, etc.
Thanks for your replies!
Betsyl






