Est ce des pays dangereux à traverser en camping car?
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sophie
Kazakhstan et Géorgie en camping-car et sécurité
by Sophiesté
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Bonsoir,
Le mieux, à mon avis, serait que vous nous soumettiez l'ensemble de votre parcours ; on y verrait mieux et plus clair, au sens où parfois les zones les plus sensibles sont les zones frontières.
Michel
Le mieux, à mon avis, serait que vous nous soumettiez l'ensemble de votre parcours ; on y verrait mieux et plus clair, au sens où parfois les zones les plus sensibles sont les zones frontières.
Michel
Nous en sommes au début de nos recherches, il n y a pas semble t-il beaucoup de possibilités vu les montagnes caucasiennes. La Géorgie semble tranquille et intéressante à visiter.
Ce sera donc surement vers la mer Caspienne et c'est vers cette mer que ça a l'air difficile. on voulait suivre la mer Caspienne jusqu'au Kazakhstan...
sophie
Bonjour,
Donc c'est Turquie - Géorgie - Russie - Kazakhstan, le plan ?
Michel
Donc c'est Turquie - Géorgie - Russie - Kazakhstan, le plan ?
Michel
La Turquie et la Géorgie, oui.
Pas les autres régions évoquées.
Certains qui s'y connaissent bien vont sans doute intervenir ici même pour évoquer les conditions de passage de la frontière Géorgie Russie.
Michel
Bonjour oui tout à fait. connaissez vous ces pays ?
Michel
Bonjour oui tout à fait. connaissez vous ces pays ?
le passage Géorgie - Russie ne pose aucun problème mais n'est possible qu'en un point, par la route Tbilissi - Vladikavkaz. Le passage Azerbaïdjan - Russie est possible depuis 2 ou 3 ans par la route Bakou - Derbent.
Il n'y a pas de problèmes de sécurité, le risque d'attentat n'est maintenant pas plus élevé, je pense, qu'en Europe Occidentale. Et s'il y a un problème de sécurité dans certaines vallées du Nord Caucase russe, les garde-frontière ou la police , très présents, vous dissuaderont efficacement d'y aller. Mais globalement, c'est devenu calme (j'étais dans le Nord Caucase en juillet-août 2017). Aucun problème de sécurité en Géorgie, et je n'ai jamais entendu parler de problèmes au Kazakhstan, à part le risque, pas tout-à-fait négligeable, de rencontrer des conducteurs imbibés de vodka...
Par contre, notez que si vous envisagez de quitter les axes de transit pour passer par des vallées transverses proches de la frontière ( < environ 10 km) côté russe, il vous faudra des permis zone frontière, à demander 2 mois à l'avance au FSB des provinces concernées.
Il n'y a pas de problèmes de sécurité, le risque d'attentat n'est maintenant pas plus élevé, je pense, qu'en Europe Occidentale. Et s'il y a un problème de sécurité dans certaines vallées du Nord Caucase russe, les garde-frontière ou la police , très présents, vous dissuaderont efficacement d'y aller. Mais globalement, c'est devenu calme (j'étais dans le Nord Caucase en juillet-août 2017). Aucun problème de sécurité en Géorgie, et je n'ai jamais entendu parler de problèmes au Kazakhstan, à part le risque, pas tout-à-fait négligeable, de rencontrer des conducteurs imbibés de vodka...
Par contre, notez que si vous envisagez de quitter les axes de transit pour passer par des vallées transverses proches de la frontière ( < environ 10 km) côté russe, il vous faudra des permis zone frontière, à demander 2 mois à l'avance au FSB des provinces concernées.
Hello Sophie
Voici le lien d'un blog. Ils ont un CC et voyagés dans les pays en STAN.
http://duduexpress.over-blog.com/cc
J'espère aller là-bas bientôt😉
Voici le lien d'un blog. Ils ont un CC et voyagés dans les pays en STAN.
http://duduexpress.over-blog.com/cc
J'espère aller là-bas bientôt😉
Merci pour ces renseignements.
Ce que vous ditse sur la Georgie confirme ce que j ai vu et entendu. Le risque zéro n'existe pas de toutes façons et chez nous non plus. Par contre pour le Kazakhstan, je lis des choses assez négatives sur la population qui se ferait passer pour différentes forces de l ordre et "détroussent" les étrangers.. comme je ne connais aucun kazakh ni personne qui y soit allé.. connaissez vous personnellement ce pays?
sinon je passerai par un autre chemin, iran pakistan..
Ce que vous ditse sur la Georgie confirme ce que j ai vu et entendu. Le risque zéro n'existe pas de toutes façons et chez nous non plus. Par contre pour le Kazakhstan, je lis des choses assez négatives sur la population qui se ferait passer pour différentes forces de l ordre et "détroussent" les étrangers.. comme je ne connais aucun kazakh ni personne qui y soit allé.. connaissez vous personnellement ce pays?
sinon je passerai par un autre chemin, iran pakistan..
sophie
A mon avis la route du sud est une autre paire de manches....
Michel
Merci pour ces renseignements.
Ce que vous ditse sur la Georgie confirme ce que j ai vu et entendu. Le risque zéro n'existe pas de toutes façons et chez nous non plus. Par contre pour le Kazakhstan, je lis des choses assez négatives sur la population qui se ferait passer pour différentes forces de l ordre et "détroussent" les étrangers.. comme je ne connais aucun kazakh ni personne qui y soit allé.. connaissez vous personnellement ce pays?
sinon je passerai par un autre chemin, iran pakistan..
Michel
Merci pour ces renseignements.
Ce que vous ditse sur la Georgie confirme ce que j ai vu et entendu. Le risque zéro n'existe pas de toutes façons et chez nous non plus. Par contre pour le Kazakhstan, je lis des choses assez négatives sur la population qui se ferait passer pour différentes forces de l ordre et "détroussent" les étrangers.. comme je ne connais aucun kazakh ni personne qui y soit allé.. connaissez vous personnellement ce pays?
sinon je passerai par un autre chemin, iran pakistan..
Par contre pour le Kazakhstan, je lis des choses assez négatives sur la population qui se ferait passer pour différentes forces de l ordre et "détroussent" les étrangers.. comme je ne connais aucun kazakh ni personne qui y soit allé..
bonjour,
Le seul problème, au Kazakhstan, c'est l'état déplorable de certaines routes . Après si vous êtes en règle au niveau papier, si vous n'avez pas les vitres teintées à l'avant du véhicule, il n'y a aucune raison de se faire du souci, les policiers sont, comme dans tous les pays "ex URSS", un peu "curieux" mais depuis quelques années nettement moins "ripoux" et lors de mon dernier voyage dans ce pays (2016) j'ai vu une nette amélioration de leurs comportement. Quelques fois arrêtés, sans motif réel, mais pas de bakchich demandé, juste un contrôle pour passer le temps ....
bonjour,
Le seul problème, au Kazakhstan, c'est l'état déplorable de certaines routes . Après si vous êtes en règle au niveau papier, si vous n'avez pas les vitres teintées à l'avant du véhicule, il n'y a aucune raison de se faire du souci, les policiers sont, comme dans tous les pays "ex URSS", un peu "curieux" mais depuis quelques années nettement moins "ripoux" et lors de mon dernier voyage dans ce pays (2016) j'ai vu une nette amélioration de leurs comportement. Quelques fois arrêtés, sans motif réel, mais pas de bakchich demandé, juste un contrôle pour passer le temps ....
Qui boit l'eau d'une terre étrangère doit en suivre les coutumes (proverbe Mongol)
Bonsoir,
Nous avons traversé en juin dernier le Kazakhstan avec un véhicule. Comme déjà dit, les routes peuvent être bonnes mais aussi défoncées (ça dépend des endroits) et nous n'avons JAMAIS eu de problème avec la police en 1 mois de temps. Beaucoup d'améliorations à ce sujet ces dernières années. Bien sûr il y a eu quelques contrôles de documents mais aucune demande d'argent. Par contre il faut respecter impérativement les limitations de vitesse et nous n'avons jamais réussi à savoir si la limitation de vitesse d'un fourgon (considéré semble-t-il comme un camion et donc limité à 75 KM/H) est la même ou pas que celle d'une voiture. Nous roulions donc à 75 maxi, ce qui laisse le temps d'admirer le paysage.
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Thanks!
hi,
I’m planning a trip to Albania in a camper van, most likely between May, June, and early July (2027), for about 60 days. On the way down, I’ll go as far as Bari (or Brindisi) and cross by ferry, and on the way back, I’ll go through the former Yugoslavia (or maybe take the return ferry?).
Has anyone been there recently? What are the roads like, the must-see spots, and any general tips you can share?
There’ll probably be two of us traveling together.
Thanks
Hi there,
During our last trip to Greece in 2021, we used Anek Lines' open deck offer, which allowed us to spend the night in our van on an open deck by the sea with access to the ferry's bars, restaurant, and showers (on the Ancona-Igoumenitsa route).
From my initial research, it seems this service no longer exists—can anyone confirm this?
Any alternatives?
Thanks
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to drive my camper van to southern Spain in autumn 2026. Ideally, I’d like to find a ferry leaving from France (Marseille or Toulon, doesn’t matter) that drops me off as far south in Spain as possible. I’ve done some research but haven’t had any luck.
Thanks for your tips!
Vanouk
We’d like to spend 15 days in August visiting Normandy by camper van, starting from Lyon.
Has anyone got an itinerary to suggest for exploring Normandy?
We’d like to go to Calvados to visit: Flower Coast, Honfleur, Cabourg, Deauville, D-Day landing beaches
Mont Saint-Michel
Alabaster Coast, Étretat cliffs, and maybe Rouen Fabienne
We’d like to go to Calvados to visit: Flower Coast, Honfleur, Cabourg, Deauville, D-Day landing beaches
Mont Saint-Michel
Alabaster Coast, Étretat cliffs, and maybe Rouen Fabienne
Hi there,
I have a bit of a crazy dream... I'd love to drop everything and hit the road with my wife and kids in a camper van.
I want to visit villages to learn, immerse ourselves in other cultures, and see different perspectives on the world. To teach my kids different values.
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a campervan road trip and would love some tips from those who know these countries: Slovenia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Montenegro, and Slovenia again. At the moment, nothing’s set in stone, but for example, is it better to visit Slovenia or Bosnia? My preferences lean toward landscapes (rivers, sea, lakes)—basically anywhere there’s water! :) Wild camping, cheap or even free spots, and a *very* tight budget—it’s the discovery, curiosity, and meeting locals that drive me. I’ll visit cities and sites only if access is easy (by bike, for example, or by train from an affordable campsite) and if visitors aren’t treated like cash cows. Just reasonable stuff, really. So, any advice is welcome—like swimming spots or easy hikes along coasts or rivers. I love caves and offbeat visits (salt mines in Poland, La Roque Saint-Christophe in France, etc.). Castles and old ruins? Not really my thing... Thanks for your help! Sylvia
I’m planning a campervan road trip and would love some tips from those who know these countries: Slovenia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Montenegro, and Slovenia again. At the moment, nothing’s set in stone, but for example, is it better to visit Slovenia or Bosnia? My preferences lean toward landscapes (rivers, sea, lakes)—basically anywhere there’s water! :) Wild camping, cheap or even free spots, and a *very* tight budget—it’s the discovery, curiosity, and meeting locals that drive me. I’ll visit cities and sites only if access is easy (by bike, for example, or by train from an affordable campsite) and if visitors aren’t treated like cash cows. Just reasonable stuff, really. So, any advice is welcome—like swimming spots or easy hikes along coasts or rivers. I love caves and offbeat visits (salt mines in Poland, La Roque Saint-Christophe in France, etc.). Castles and old ruins? Not really my thing... Thanks for your help! Sylvia
Hi, I’m planning to pick up a camper van in Dubai and drive it back to France... is this even possible? What’s the best route? What are the main challenges? Are there secure parking areas along the way? Is diesel fuel available for the whole trip? ... So many questions... Thanks for your help! See you soon!
I'm planning to drive to the UAE by road, going through Iraq. Has anyone done this and can give me some info? Specifically about the border crossings Turkey/Iraq and Iraq/Kuwait.
Hi there,
I’d love to hear your thoughts on a trip to New Zealand in a campervan. Is it a good idea to mix hotels and a car on the North Island and a campervan on the South Island? Or should I do the whole trip in a campervan—though visiting big cities seems trickier that way.
Other questions: which companies do you recommend, and what are the least tiring or most sensible routes? 😄
Thanks for sharing your experiences and ideas!
Hi there,
We’re planning to tour Scandinavia by camper van—Denmark, Sweden, Finland, and Norway (in that order)—for 5 weeks from late May to late June 2026.
I’ve done it before, but that was way back in 1980 😎 and by hitchhiking!
We’d love to hear from anyone who’s done this trip about the best routes, great tips, must-know advice, and what to do or avoid (ferries, campsites, etc.).
Thanks in advance!
hi there,
We’re heading to southern England this summer in our camper van, including a stop in London.
Does anyone have a good experience with a campsite near London that has easy access to public transport to get into the city center? Ideally, we’d like to leave the camper van at the campsite...
Thanks so much in advance for your help!
We’re heading to southern England this summer in our camper van, including a stop in London.
Does anyone have a good experience with a campsite near London that has easy access to public transport to get into the city center? Ideally, we’d like to leave the camper van at the campsite...
Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip with my camper van in autumn 2026 to head to southern Italy from Genoa by ferry.
Ideally, I’d like to leave from Genoa for southern Italy (like Messina) or another city in the boot.
I’ve done some research online but haven’t had any luck.
Can you help or give me some advice?
Thanks in advance!
Vanouk
Hi there, we’ll be in Portugal from March 9 to April 14, 2026. We’ve booked our first five days in Lisbon for sightseeing. After that, we’d like to rent a campervan (RV), but we’re having trouble finding a good site for the rental. The rental would be for about three weeks. Do you have any suggestions for us? We think it’s best to book the campervan before we arrive. And since we’re not mechanics, we need a vehicle in good condition...
Thanks so much for your suggestions. We’re open to everything—even route ideas and places to visit! Pierrette
Thanks so much for your suggestions. We’re open to everything—even route ideas and places to visit! Pierrette