Location 4x4 Ouest américain juillet 2017
by Titou14
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Mon 2nd roadtrip pour les usa est bouclé.
Mes hôtels sont quasiment tous réservés.
J'attends septembre pour acheter mes billets d'avion et donc procéder à la réservation de la voiture.
Nous devrions partir le 6 juillet 2017 retour le 29.(Denver/Denver)
Gros souci, nous voulons un 4x4 car l'été dernier, nous n'avions pas pu faire la piste de MV et là pour 2017 nous avons prévu la shafer et potash road, retourner faire la piste de MV, nous avons adoré ce lieu si mythique, valley of gods..etc donc 4x4 oblige 🙂
L'été dernier tout s'est très bien passé avec Alamo. Les simulations en direct me proposent 1820 euros pour 23 jours....
Pouvez vous me préciser les experts tels que Basting. Jpg13. Itat...et les autres si Avis et Hertz proposent les mêmes assurances ?
J'ai vraiment l'impression que seul Alamo propose l'assurance rc à 1 million$, suis un peu perdue...🙁
Merci de me dire si d'après vous les assurances chez ces loueurs connus sont identiques à celles d'Alamo.
Merci à tous pour votre aide bien précieuse.
Sylvie
Sylvie
Bonjour
Les grands loueurs, AVIS HERTZ et ALAMO proposent les mêmes assurances et garanties.
AVIS (et HERTZ si vs avez la carte GOLD gratuite) ont l'avantage de proposer l'epoux/se gratuitement en conducteur supplémentaire.
Vs pouvez voir des pris intéressants chez AVIS avec le code remise AWD J046300 ou H811101, chez HERTZ avec le code emise CDP 510000, associé ou non avec le code tarif RQ BEST ou WOW (il y en a d'autres)
Vs pouvez regarder aussi les sites .IE ou .BE de ces loueurs.
AVIS (et HERTZ si vs avez la carte GOLD gratuite) ont l'avantage de proposer l'epoux/se gratuitement en conducteur supplémentaire.
Vs pouvez voir des pris intéressants chez AVIS avec le code remise AWD J046300 ou H811101, chez HERTZ avec le code emise CDP 510000, associé ou non avec le code tarif RQ BEST ou WOW (il y en a d'autres)
Vs pouvez regarder aussi les sites .IE ou .BE de ces loueurs.
Bonjour,
Merci pour les infos.
Savez vous comment reconnait on un SUV 4x4 ou 2x4 qd nous sommes sur le parking du loueur ?
Bien évidemment pour les pistes, nous voulons un vrai 4x4 !
Merci
Cordialement,
Sylvie
Bonjour.
Quelle pistes voulez vs faire ? L'important est surtout la garde au sol, et certains SUV même 4 roues motrices ne sont pas terribles sur ce point.
Ensuite, certains vehicules ou certains marques sont beaucoup mieux que d'autres pour le tout chemin : toutes les JEEP en particulier, le FORD EXPLORER, les CHEVY TAHOE, FORD EXPEDITION et surtout le TOYOTA SEQUOIA.
Certains sont equipés de réducteurs, permettant un gamme de vitesse courtes pour le vrai franchissement : Le SEQUOIA en serie, le TAHOE en option. Pour savoir si c'est un 4 roues motrices, la meilleure façon est encore de regarder sous le véhicule.
Quelle pistes voulez vs faire ? L'important est surtout la garde au sol, et certains SUV même 4 roues motrices ne sont pas terribles sur ce point.
Ensuite, certains vehicules ou certains marques sont beaucoup mieux que d'autres pour le tout chemin : toutes les JEEP en particulier, le FORD EXPLORER, les CHEVY TAHOE, FORD EXPEDITION et surtout le TOYOTA SEQUOIA.
Certains sont equipés de réducteurs, permettant un gamme de vitesse courtes pour le vrai franchissement : Le SEQUOIA en serie, le TAHOE en option. Pour savoir si c'est un 4 roues motrices, la meilleure façon est encore de regarder sous le véhicule.
Bonjour Jean Pierre,
Les pistes de MV, valley of Gods, goosenecks, Tower fishers, Little wild horse canyon, Capitol Reef.
Nous serons que deux....
Un suv midsize devrait convenir d'après vous ?
Car les prix sont relativement élevés même avec vos codes de réduction.
Encore merci pour vos conseils.
Sylvie
Sylvie
Pour La piste de Monument Valley, valley of the good, il ni a pas besoins de 4x4, Pour le Shafer Trail un SUV haut de caisse suffit. Cette année , Il y avait des promos chez Alamo j'ai louer un Jeep Cherokee limited ADW 4x4 357 € les 15 jours 9l/100 et 7 j un Chevrolet Tahoe 7 PL 15L/100 1500 km V8 très gourmant, moins confortable et moins pratique que le Jeep . L'année dernière chez Sixt a LAX un GMC ACADIA 7 PL 10,5l/100 sur 6000 km , très confortable . Il faut obligatoirement un 4x4 pour la piste de White Poket. Je vous conseil la compagnie ALAMO très sérieux et GPS inclut.
Voici un comparateur de prix pour les billets d'avion et loc de voiture
https://www.skyscanner.fr/location-de-voiture/resultats/95673705/95673705/2016-09-06T10:00/2016-09-29T10:00/30/#/?_k=0tnds3
https://www.skyscanner.fr/location-de-voiture/resultats/95673705/95673705/2016-09-06T10:00/2016-09-29T10:00/30/#/?_k=0tnds3
Bonjour Jean-Pierre,
Je regarde aussi les voitures pour mon séjour en avril mai 2017.
L'année dernière, nous avions pris un mid-SUV chez Alamo (Toyota Rav4). Quel est le type de voiture équivalent chez Hertz ou Avis, je n'ai vu que des SUV ?
Merci pour les codes de réduction, je voulais te poser la question !!!
Michèle
l'Ouest Américain mai 2016
http://https://voyageforum.com/discussion/retour-boucle-21-jours-dans-ouest-americain-en-mai-2016-d7509458/
Bonjour
Skyscanner est un comparateur qui rassemble surtout les offres des intermédiaires ou agences de voyage. J'ai fait quelques simuls : Pour les intermédiaires, il faut se mefier car certains bas prix ne comprennent pas la CDW/LDW.. Pour les loueurs en direct, les quelques offres dispo ne tiennent pas compte des remises possibles.
Skyscanner est un comparateur qui rassemble surtout les offres des intermédiaires ou agences de voyage. J'ai fait quelques simuls : Pour les intermédiaires, il faut se mefier car certains bas prix ne comprennent pas la CDW/LDW.. Pour les loueurs en direct, les quelques offres dispo ne tiennent pas compte des remises possibles.
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Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!






