Mais où sont les routards(des) 50/60ans et plus?
by Marino46
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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OU SONT LES ROUTARDS 50/60 ANS ET PLUS...????> On n'est pas des croulants!!!!> On n'est plus des enfants!!!> mais la joie de vivre... nous anime!!!> et le monde ...nous attends...> dans nos bagages ...de voyage...> nous avons...amitié...et ...partage...> humour ...et ...sagesse> soif de découvertes...et ...d'aventures> de pétillance...et d'ouvertures> de relations ...et ... de rencontres...> ALORS???? ON Y VA????> JE VOUS ATTENDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!> Et puis avant d'y aller...on peut en parler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!> A TRES BIENTOT> MARINO (femme 59ans!)
C'est normal, on ne les reconnait plus 🙁
Avec les décolorations, le ROUX TARDE à se faire reconnaître 🤪😏
Avec les décolorations, le ROUX TARDE à se faire reconnaître 🤪😏
CHRISTIAN
"Ne pas rire, ce n'est pas sérieux"
"Ne pas rire, ce n'est pas sérieux"
Pourtant il n'en manque pas ici des vieux voyageurs routardés😉
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Nous sommes déjà 5, Le ou la présidente, le (ou la) vice -président, le (ou la) trésorier, le (ou la) secrétaire et le (ou la ) secrétaire adjoint.
Complet pour faire un club, manque plus que les "vieux membres"😊😉
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Aller c'est parti pour le club des vieux routards 😉 Marco 54 ans .
@+ , Marco .
On aura jamais assez de temps pour tout ce qu'on veut découvrir et comprendre dans nos voyages qu'on se le dise , Amis voyageurs .
BRAVO LES GARS!!!!!
Un merci énorme pour toutes vos réponses!!! En fait ...c'est moi la plus...vieille...!!!....et...LA MOINS ROUTARDE....à coté de vous tous C'est vrai que, en regardant les annonces et les ages des gens ..;je me disais...mais où sont-ils les 50/60, ??? Je vois qu'ils sont là...modestes et sans doute rendus humbles par toutes leurs aventures, rencontres et périgrinations...BRAVo!!!! On est assez nombreux pour faire une assoc.et il y aurait des milliers et des milliers de souvenirs des uns et des autres à engranger pour nos vieux jours!!! Je vais d'ailleurs aller visiter les carnets des uns et des autres!!!...en attendant de repartir bientôt..;je ne sais où ni quand ni avec qui..mais J'IRAI...! A bientôt sur ce site ou ailleurs! Marie-Noëlle, lyonnaise mais avant tout citoyenne du monde!
Un merci énorme pour toutes vos réponses!!! En fait ...c'est moi la plus...vieille...!!!....et...LA MOINS ROUTARDE....à coté de vous tous C'est vrai que, en regardant les annonces et les ages des gens ..;je me disais...mais où sont-ils les 50/60, ??? Je vois qu'ils sont là...modestes et sans doute rendus humbles par toutes leurs aventures, rencontres et périgrinations...BRAVo!!!! On est assez nombreux pour faire une assoc.et il y aurait des milliers et des milliers de souvenirs des uns et des autres à engranger pour nos vieux jours!!! Je vais d'ailleurs aller visiter les carnets des uns et des autres!!!...en attendant de repartir bientôt..;je ne sais où ni quand ni avec qui..mais J'IRAI...! A bientôt sur ce site ou ailleurs! Marie-Noëlle, lyonnaise mais avant tout citoyenne du monde!
O.K!!!
merci pour la réponse!!!
je ne manquerai pas de vous demander conseil si j'en ai besoin pour mes prochains voyages!!
Bien cordialement et vive la Belgique que j'aime beaucoup...ainsi que ses habitants!!!
Marie-Noëlle
Salut Marie-Noële,
Pas certain que tu sois la plus "vieille", pour moi c'est 59 ans depuis le 19 février.
Je veux bien faire partie de ton assos de "vieux routards" si je remplis les conditions.
Il faudra lui trouver un nom, tu y as pensé ?
De l'imagination les amis(es).
tu es battu🤪 j'ai fêté mes 59 balais le 25 Décembre 2005😛 Je suis partante pour l'association des vieux routards, bonne idée.
Patoune
Patoune
vivre simplement pour que simplement les autres puissent vivre.
BRAVO LES GARS!!!!!
Un merci énorme pour toutes vos réponses!!! En fait ...c'est moi la plus...vieille...!!!....et...LA MOINS ROUTARDE....à coté de vous tous C'est vrai que, en regardant les annonces et les ages des gens ..;je me disais...mais où sont-ils les 50/60, ???
... ils sont pas tous dans des cars, en voyage organisé pour leur faire prendre l'air, d'Octobre à Décembre et de Février à Avril ????😐
Un merci énorme pour toutes vos réponses!!! En fait ...c'est moi la plus...vieille...!!!....et...LA MOINS ROUTARDE....à coté de vous tous C'est vrai que, en regardant les annonces et les ages des gens ..;je me disais...mais où sont-ils les 50/60, ???
... ils sont pas tous dans des cars, en voyage organisé pour leur faire prendre l'air, d'Octobre à Décembre et de Février à Avril ????😐
De peu, mais battu. 🏴☠️
Je m'incline... 😎
Bonne question... les deux bien entendu. Et une femme présidente, c'est d'actualité.😛 La doyenne et ça changera chaque fois qu'une nouvelle se présentera... 😉
Pas de triche sur votre âge Mmes... 😇
C'est bien parti et je pense que nous les mecs on sera minoritaires. Faut voir... 😠
Salut Patoune!
J'hallucine comme diraient les jeunes...moi aussi j'ai fêté mes 59 ans le 25 Décembre 2005!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Je suis née le 25 décembre 1946!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alors on est jumelles?????????????????????????????
Ca alors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bonjour les anciens ?
ne jouons pas aux anciens combattants ! Pour ma part j'ai bougé, mais seulement à partir de 30 ans seulement, mais je peux vous dire que je me suis rattrapé depuis! par tous les moyens, 4x4, transports en commun, cheval, ......
60 ans dans quelques semaines et je vais lancer un appel à coéquipier (re) pour un Maroc > Dakar à vélo, en oct nov dec 2006.
S'il y a assoc, je veux bien un poste d'obscur membre actif!!
les jumelles présidentes!
ne jouons pas aux anciens combattants ! Pour ma part j'ai bougé, mais seulement à partir de 30 ans seulement, mais je peux vous dire que je me suis rattrapé depuis! par tous les moyens, 4x4, transports en commun, cheval, ......
60 ans dans quelques semaines et je vais lancer un appel à coéquipier (re) pour un Maroc > Dakar à vélo, en oct nov dec 2006.
S'il y a assoc, je veux bien un poste d'obscur membre actif!!
les jumelles présidentes!
Si l'on considère que les membres du forum ont entre 20 et 60 ans, leurs naissances se sont donc étalées sur une période de 40 ans;
40 ans X 365 jours = 14.600 jours.
Ca va, vous suivez 🤪
Or il y a à ce jour 81.368 membres dans le forum.
Donc au pire (car les naissances ne sont pas réparties uniformément sur une année), il y aurait eu: 81.368 / 14.600 = 5, 57 naissances de VFISTES chaque jour pendant 40 ans.
Donc VF serait une communauté de 14.600 quintuplés
Mais comme les catégories d'ages ne sont pas représentées de la même manière, ainsi que la répartition des naissances sur l'année, il y a certainement pas mal aussi de septuplés 🙂. 😏
Or il y a à ce jour 81.368 membres dans le forum.
Donc au pire (car les naissances ne sont pas réparties uniformément sur une année), il y aurait eu: 81.368 / 14.600 = 5, 57 naissances de VFISTES chaque jour pendant 40 ans.
Donc VF serait une communauté de 14.600 quintuplés

Mais comme les catégories d'ages ne sont pas représentées de la même manière, ainsi que la répartition des naissances sur l'année, il y a certainement pas mal aussi de septuplés 🙂. 😏
CHRISTIAN
"Ne pas rire, ce n'est pas sérieux"
"Ne pas rire, ce n'est pas sérieux"
O.K Christian......................
Tu seras TRESORIER de l'assoc.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😉
Marino😏
Tant que j'ai pas les couches à changer 😏
CHRISTIAN
"Ne pas rire, ce n'est pas sérieux"
"Ne pas rire, ce n'est pas sérieux"
Tant que j'ai pas les couches à changer 😏
Surtout s'il faut passer la deuxième 🤪😎 Bon OK je sais, j'en tiens une😉
Surtout s'il faut passer la deuxième 🤪😎 Bon OK je sais, j'en tiens une😉
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on s'amuse bien sur ce Forum!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏😏
c'est super!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😉😉😉😉😉😉 encore!!!!!
Marino
Une question me traverse l'esprit 🤪
Est ce parce que tu es née le 25 décembre que tes parents t'ont prénommé Marie Noelle ? 🙂
Est ce parce que tu es née le 25 décembre que tes parents t'ont prénommé Marie Noelle ? 🙂
CHRISTIAN
"Ne pas rire, ce n'est pas sérieux"
"Ne pas rire, ce n'est pas sérieux"
OU...........................................................................I !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
😏 😄 🙂 😐 😕 🤪
😏 😄 🙂 😐 😕 🤪
Waooooh, le jeune cinquantenaire du sud, t'y vas fort avec les "neuneurones" voyageurs😎
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Il vous faudrait quand même un représentant (e) de la jeunesse.... question de vous tenir au courant sur les nouveautés dites ''in et Cool'' 😛
Car la jeunesse, c'est quand même votre avenir à vous les vieux... ( ha ha!) Il faut passer le flambeau!
😛😛😛
Car la jeunesse, c'est quand même votre avenir à vous les vieux... ( ha ha!) Il faut passer le flambeau!
😛😛😛
Zen Attitude!
"Rester, c’est exister : mais voyager, c’est vivre!''
😉 Moi non, et .......................................France ?
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Ouais, chut, Nil vu Nil connu 😎
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j'en reviens pas. Le forum n'a pas fini de me réserver des surprises. je suis née à 22H. 15 et toi ?
Cela étant dit, je vois que durant l'après midi les papys and co ont fait fort sur les posts, j'en ris encore.
Donc nous avons notre trésorier j'attends la suite 😉
Patoune
Patoune
vivre simplement pour que simplement les autres puissent vivre.
je suis née à 02h45 le 25/12, nous avons20heures d'écart!!!
T'as pas eu les pétoches à 33 ans??????😏
Elle est où ta ville?
Elle est super cette discussion!!!
Les papys sont très présents
Aplus!!!😉
marie-Noëlle
les pétoches, ben non j'y ai même pas pensé. J'habite juste à côté de Lille.
vivre simplement pour que simplement les autres puissent vivre.
Je vois que la colonie des Tamalou est en forme ce soir.
Ca me rassure, des beaux examples pour mes vieux jours (certes dans trèèèèès longtemps !) 😉
"Lorsque quelqu’un te blesse, tu devrais l’écrire sur le sable afin que le vent l’efface de ta mémoire mais lorsque quelqu’un fait quelque chose de bon pour toi, tu dois l’écrire sur la pierre afin que le vent ne l’efface jamais."
Proverbe Touareg
les jumelles présidentes!
Je suis pour !!
Je suis pour !!
Après Marie Noël, voilà que rapplique Joseph; il n'y a plus qu'à demander Alan qu'il participe à la crèche 🙂.
CHRISTIAN
"Ne pas rire, ce n'est pas sérieux"
"Ne pas rire, ce n'est pas sérieux"
coucou je me rajoute sur la liste 54 bougies en mai prochain et je recherche coéquipier (es) pour l'été direction de préference mongolie ou why not bolivie de mi juillet à environ mi aout
voili voilà à quand la prochaine rencontre😉 😏😏😏😏
arvie 😏
une rencontre pourquoi pas qu'en pensez-vous ?
Dommage pour la mongolie, mais cette année j'ai déjà prévu le népal et un petit tour en espagne et gibraltar. Mais on peut voir pour 2007.😉
Patoune
Patoune
vivre simplement pour que simplement les autres puissent vivre.
Après Marie Noël, voilà que rapplique Joseph; il n'y a plus qu'à demander Alan qu'il participe à la crèche 🙂.
Si tu l'avais manquée je n'aurais pas compris... Nous avons donc pour la crèche : Marie-Noëlle, Joseph, Alan et je propose le boeuf. (Voir photo). 😊 Il fera l'affaire ?? 😎 Joseph mort de rire...
Si tu l'avais manquée je n'aurais pas compris... Nous avons donc pour la crèche : Marie-Noëlle, Joseph, Alan et je propose le boeuf. (Voir photo). 😊 Il fera l'affaire ?? 😎 Joseph mort de rire...
Tu y es "Mon vieux"...😉
Donc nous avons notre trésorier j'attends la suite 😉
Patoune
Salut Patoune, Nous avons aussi une partie de la crèche... 😊 ça avance, courage... 😛
Patoune
Salut Patoune, Nous avons aussi une partie de la crèche... 😊 ça avance, courage... 😛
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2)

After a quarter without dragging my slippers around here, even though I’d loudly declared I had no interest left in this site, here I am again!
My imagination never stays fallow for long. Just enough time for my inner land to rest. It gets overgrown with fresh nettles, the kind you can pick without getting stung. Then, it’s time to till the fragrant earth and let the story grow.
I hesitated over where to set this story. Maybe the Highlands, maybe the Hebrides, maybe the Orkney Islands, maybe the Shetland Islands. All of Scotland is myth—easy to embroider. But in the end, no. I’d almost be too afraid to bare my soul.
The story will take place at home. Simple, practical.
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This morning, I was up well before dawn, feeling a bit grumpy, but nothing a bowl of coffee won’t fix. I love my bowl, and no one dares take it. It’s porcelain, edged with intertwined blue flowers. On the bottom, it says "Revol." The factory has existed long before the Revolution. It was my great-grandmother’s bowl. She drank roasted barley from it during the war, then her Leroux chicory.
Last year, a little guy dropped it. My bowl broke into three pieces. A black anger vibrated deep inside me. The little boy was so upset, on the verge of tears. How could I scold him!
I picked up the three pieces and took Little Boy in my arms. His hair smelled of the light, sweet sweat of toddlers. A gentle hug that healed—his budding sorrow and my anger—everything vanished, and time carried on.
Today, my bowl is even prettier. Man fixed it using the traditional kintsugi technique, except he didn’t use gold powder or lacquer but superglue, and he delicately painted the cracks with woad blue. And my bowl is even more beautiful now.
I’m lingering, I can tell—it’s just that a story wraps itself in life, and life can’t be told in the snap of a finger. Life is long. Like in architecture, you start with a rough sketch, called a "sous-cul" (the initial pencil drawing), then you make a tracing, which is the work itself, the one you later carefully roll up in a wooden tube. Life is like that: you erase, you start over, you use the nub of the pencil until it’s tiny, but you keep going—dreaming, loving.
"Living is a full-time occupation, a unique adventure. Always a surprise and a wonder, which sometimes turns into astonishment. And, from time to time, happiness."*
Alright, enough digressing—this introduction is definitely too long. Tomorrow, I’ll get to the heart of the matter. (I hate that expression; it feels like I’m cutting into someone’s skin.)
*Jean d’Ormesson
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Without limiting ourselves to the countries mentioned above—Turkey and others could be added to the list.
I need to get dental reconstruction done, likely involving 6 implants. Which country offers the best quality of care, materials, and techniques?
Thanks
I need to get dental reconstruction done, likely involving 6 implants. Which country offers the best quality of care, materials, and techniques?
Thanks
Hi everyone,
I’m Yann, a 28-year-old TikToker who loves traveling!
Since I’ve been to several destinations, I’d love to get a flag from each one as a sort of trophy. But from what I’ve seen online, a lot of sites sell them with what looks like really poor quality...
So I’m reaching out to you all to share a site you usually use—help me start my collection! :)
Have a great day!
Yann
I’m Yann, a 28-year-old TikToker who loves traveling!
Since I’ve been to several destinations, I’d love to get a flag from each one as a sort of trophy. But from what I’ve seen online, a lot of sites sell them with what looks like really poor quality...
So I’m reaching out to you all to share a site you usually use—help me start my collection! :)
Have a great day!
Yann
hi there
I’d love to get some opinions—I’ve never used Airbnb before.
They’re offering a key handover via lockbox.
Any tips or advice?
Is it reliable?
Best,
Hi there, I’m Laura, and I’m looking for a few people to answer some questions so I can understand your travel wishes and challenges. It won’t take long—I can chat here, by email, or by phone. Don’t worry, I’m not selling anything! 😊
On this forum, we talk a lot about trekking in the Himalayas, but I’d love to share another side of Nepal: its spiritual, cultural, and religious atmosphere, especially in Kathmandu.
Nepal, much like Tibet and Bhutan, is deeply connected to the Himalayas—the ultimate sacred mountain range. This small country exudes a calming vibe, shaped by a strong spiritual dimension. What I loved most was the unique sensory experience you get there. Walking around temples and tantric monasteries, a distinct scent fills the air—aromatic plants used for ritual fumigation. Locals mainly burn Himalayan juniper, cedar, sandalwood, and other local essences. This fragrant smoke is a way to purify the space and reach the deities, and you’re constantly enveloped in these aromas.
Another striking aspect is the sound. As soon as you step outside, you hear bells ringing in front of temples. People ring them three times before praying to announce their presence to the deities. Nepal is also the birthplace of singing bowls and sound meditation practices. In Kathmandu, you can easily find meditation sessions or "sound baths."
The spiritual dimension is everywhere: a Hindu sadhu practicing asceticism, a lama in deep red robes with his mala, turning a prayer wheel while murmuring "Om mani padme hum." Newar Buddhism, Tantrism, and Hinduism coexist harmoniously in daily life.
For those who love exploring a destination through its culture and spirituality, Nepal is an unforgettable place. What was your spiritual experience in Nepal like?
Nepal, much like Tibet and Bhutan, is deeply connected to the Himalayas—the ultimate sacred mountain range. This small country exudes a calming vibe, shaped by a strong spiritual dimension. What I loved most was the unique sensory experience you get there. Walking around temples and tantric monasteries, a distinct scent fills the air—aromatic plants used for ritual fumigation. Locals mainly burn Himalayan juniper, cedar, sandalwood, and other local essences. This fragrant smoke is a way to purify the space and reach the deities, and you’re constantly enveloped in these aromas.
Another striking aspect is the sound. As soon as you step outside, you hear bells ringing in front of temples. People ring them three times before praying to announce their presence to the deities. Nepal is also the birthplace of singing bowls and sound meditation practices. In Kathmandu, you can easily find meditation sessions or "sound baths."
The spiritual dimension is everywhere: a Hindu sadhu practicing asceticism, a lama in deep red robes with his mala, turning a prayer wheel while murmuring "Om mani padme hum." Newar Buddhism, Tantrism, and Hinduism coexist harmoniously in daily life.
For those who love exploring a destination through its culture and spirituality, Nepal is an unforgettable place. What was your spiritual experience in Nepal like?
Hi,
I’m landing in Quebec and then heading to New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. I’d like to rent a pick-up. My question is: does this vehicle come with a cover and is it secure enough to store luggage in? I’ve heard two conflicting opinions. Thanks
I just installed the Maps.Me app on my phone. I only recently found out about this app. I’m traveling in 2 weeks and a few days, and I’m a bit stuck on how to use it.
I’m from the Montreal (Quebec) area, and I’d love to know if there’s a kind soul out there who could help me get started and use the app at least minimally.
If there are private lessons available, I’d be interested in those too.
Thanks in advance for your help. Simon
Thanks in advance for your help. Simon
Hi everyone,
I just found out there’s an update on the international driving permit. What was bound to happen has happened: it now costs (for now!!) 7 50 €. https://www.service-public.gouv.fr/particuliers/actualites/A18833
There’s also a link at the bottom of the article for the list of countries where it’s mandatory.
Have a great day! 😊
Christelle
I just found out there’s an update on the international driving permit. What was bound to happen has happened: it now costs (for now!!) 7 50 €. https://www.service-public.gouv.fr/particuliers/actualites/A18833
There’s also a link at the bottom of the article for the list of countries where it’s mandatory.
Have a great day! 😊
Christelle
Hello François, and the new team!
Like many others, I’m overjoyed to hear that VoyageForum is reopening! I’ve been waiting hopefully for this, and it’s wonderful that it’s finally happening!
I just couldn’t bring myself to actively participate in other French-language travel forums—their format and way of doing things never appealed to me as much. I really hope that VF’s structure, categories, and interface won’t change too much despite the handover, because I’m very attached to them. Through thick and thin, the site has held strong—it’s amazing!
In a previous message, François mentioned that there were positions to fill ahead of the reopening, including moderators...
I’ve been eagerly waiting for this and hoping to send in my CV.
Now, after reading the latest message, it seems like the team is already fully formed. But are there still a few spots left to fill?
I’ve been a VF member for 20 years (since 2004). I’d love to contribute to this wonderful adventure as a moderator if VF would trust me with the role. If the team is open to reviewing it, I’m ready to send my CV. Could you let me know the next steps?
Best regards, Marine/eversmile
Like many others, I’m overjoyed to hear that VoyageForum is reopening! I’ve been waiting hopefully for this, and it’s wonderful that it’s finally happening!
I just couldn’t bring myself to actively participate in other French-language travel forums—their format and way of doing things never appealed to me as much. I really hope that VF’s structure, categories, and interface won’t change too much despite the handover, because I’m very attached to them. Through thick and thin, the site has held strong—it’s amazing!
In a previous message, François mentioned that there were positions to fill ahead of the reopening, including moderators...
I’ve been eagerly waiting for this and hoping to send in my CV.
Now, after reading the latest message, it seems like the team is already fully formed. But are there still a few spots left to fill?
I’ve been a VF member for 20 years (since 2004). I’d love to contribute to this wonderful adventure as a moderator if VF would trust me with the role. If the team is open to reviewing it, I’m ready to send my CV. Could you let me know the next steps?
Best regards, Marine/eversmile
Hi there,
I’m planning a 3-week trip to Japan in May with Voyage Privé. The package includes a 5 GB eSIM, but my phone isn’t new enough to support it. VP told me I could buy a SIM card when I arrive at the airport. Sure enough, I’ve seen online that this is possible with different providers. I only need it for checking routes, looking up addresses, train schedules, etc.—basically using Google Maps, TripAdvisor, and similar apps. No heavy downloads or major internet use. All hotels should provide free Wi-Fi for that, right? Has anyone got any tips for me on this? What have you tried, and how much did it cost? Thanks for your help!
I’m planning a 3-week trip to Japan in May with Voyage Privé. The package includes a 5 GB eSIM, but my phone isn’t new enough to support it. VP told me I could buy a SIM card when I arrive at the airport. Sure enough, I’ve seen online that this is possible with different providers. I only need it for checking routes, looking up addresses, train schedules, etc.—basically using Google Maps, TripAdvisor, and similar apps. No heavy downloads or major internet use. All hotels should provide free Wi-Fi for that, right? Has anyone got any tips for me on this? What have you tried, and how much did it cost? Thanks for your help!
Hi,
I’d like to know if you can buy reef-safe sunscreen sprays at 7-Eleven. If so, how much do they cost? We’re traveling with backpacks, so we’ll either buy 100ml here or in Thailand.
I’d like to know if you can buy reef-safe sunscreen sprays at 7-Eleven. If so, how much do they cost? We’re traveling with backpacks, so we’ll either buy 100ml here or in Thailand.
Hi everyone,
I wanted to share a really unpleasant experience from our last trip booked with Promoséjours and organized by FTI.
We booked an 8-day/7-night stay in Egypt, from June 8 to 15. The flight initially scheduled was changed a week before departure to take off at 10 PM from Paris CDG. In the end, it took off with a 1-hour delay and included an unmentioned stopover in Marsa Alam. We landed in Hurghada at 4 AM and arrived at the hotel at 6 AM. So, we spent our first night on the plane.
For the return trip, surprise—the flight was moved up. We left the hotel at 10:30 PM on Friday the 14th to take off at 2 AM and land at 7 AM at Paris CDG. So, we spent our last night on the plane too.
After sending a complaint letter to Promoséjours / FTI, they replied that the first and last days can be dedicated to transport (which I already knew) and that no matter how many nights you book, you’re not guaranteed to spend them in the hotel—it could just as well be on the plane.
I’m really questioning this.
Isn’t there a law that protects customers in cases like this? Because when I do the math, the first and part of the second day were spent on transport, same for the second-to-last and last day. And I paid for 7 nights for a stay that only lasted 5.
Anyway, I just want to say thanks to them—thanks to their two sleepless nights in transit, I’m coming back even more exhausted from a trip that was supposed to be restful!
I also want to warn anyone booking through this agency about visas for Egypt. At booking, they told me the visa was included in the price, then they sent me an email saying I’d have to pay for it on-site at 25 €. Once there, we were directed to a special line for FTI customers, and guess what? They charged us 30 €!
Basically, they’re great at making sure you *enjoy* your vacation—mostly by enjoying your wallet!
If anyone has dealt with this kind of situation and won their case, I’m all ears.
Thanks in advance!
I wanted to share a really unpleasant experience from our last trip booked with Promoséjours and organized by FTI.
We booked an 8-day/7-night stay in Egypt, from June 8 to 15. The flight initially scheduled was changed a week before departure to take off at 10 PM from Paris CDG. In the end, it took off with a 1-hour delay and included an unmentioned stopover in Marsa Alam. We landed in Hurghada at 4 AM and arrived at the hotel at 6 AM. So, we spent our first night on the plane.
For the return trip, surprise—the flight was moved up. We left the hotel at 10:30 PM on Friday the 14th to take off at 2 AM and land at 7 AM at Paris CDG. So, we spent our last night on the plane too.
After sending a complaint letter to Promoséjours / FTI, they replied that the first and last days can be dedicated to transport (which I already knew) and that no matter how many nights you book, you’re not guaranteed to spend them in the hotel—it could just as well be on the plane.
I’m really questioning this.
Isn’t there a law that protects customers in cases like this? Because when I do the math, the first and part of the second day were spent on transport, same for the second-to-last and last day. And I paid for 7 nights for a stay that only lasted 5.
Anyway, I just want to say thanks to them—thanks to their two sleepless nights in transit, I’m coming back even more exhausted from a trip that was supposed to be restful!
I also want to warn anyone booking through this agency about visas for Egypt. At booking, they told me the visa was included in the price, then they sent me an email saying I’d have to pay for it on-site at 25 €. Once there, we were directed to a special line for FTI customers, and guess what? They charged us 30 €!
Basically, they’re great at making sure you *enjoy* your vacation—mostly by enjoying your wallet!
If anyone has dealt with this kind of situation and won their case, I’m all ears.
Thanks in advance!
Hi there!
I’m heading to Thailand for two months.
So I thought I’d get a Thai SIM card to use Google Maps for getting around cities, mostly.
Here’s my question: will this SIM affect my apps? Or will they work the same as with my Orange SIM?
Is there any setup I need to do, or can I just pop in the Thai SIM?
I’d also like to switch back to my Orange SIM now and then while I’m in Thailand—on the same phone. Will I need to reset the phone, or will it reconnect without any issues?
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Best,
Huiclos
Just got back from Egypt a few days ago and couldn't exchange my 1900 Egyptian pounds at the airport. If anyone's interested, let me know!
Hi, I’d like to know where we can buy beer or wine in Chefchaouen and around Merzouga. We’ll be doing a circuit and staying at the Parador Hotel in Chefchaouen and in a bivouac in Merzouga.
Thanks for any info you can share!
Hello everyone,
I’m reaching out to all travelers and globe-trotters on this forum. I’m a teacher in Creuse working in a ULIS program (which welcomes children aged 6 to 12 with disabilities into a mainstream school). This year, I’m launching a school journal project that will involve the kids in many different topics. A big part of this journal will focus on opening up to the world, embracing differences, travel, global cultures, and more.
I’m putting out a call to invite as many of you as possible to send us a postcard (from France or anywhere in the world)! The goal is to help us "travel" and discover new places, countries, and horizons in a way that’s much more fun and exciting than a geography textbook. One section of our journal could be called "We received a letter from ," where we’d research the location and share what we learn with our readers—a really enriching activity for the classroom.
The project starts in September 2025 but doesn’t have a strict end date, since this journal and world-discovery initiative will span several school years (the kids stay in the ULIS program for multiple years). Postcards can be sent anytime—throughout the year, across seasons, even during holidays! The kids will find them when they return.
I hope this idea appeals to as many of you as possible, and that you’ll spread the word to your fellow travelers. Help us dream and explore!
For those who’d like to write to us in a language other than French, no problem—quite the opposite!
Thank you in advance for your participation! Below is our address. If you’d like us to write back, feel free to leave your address on a corner of the postcard! 😊
ULIS program students Bonnat Elementary School 12 rue Georges Sand 23220 BONNAT Thank you, and I hope to hear from you soon! 😊 Julien 🙂
I’m putting out a call to invite as many of you as possible to send us a postcard (from France or anywhere in the world)! The goal is to help us "travel" and discover new places, countries, and horizons in a way that’s much more fun and exciting than a geography textbook. One section of our journal could be called "We received a letter from ," where we’d research the location and share what we learn with our readers—a really enriching activity for the classroom.
The project starts in September 2025 but doesn’t have a strict end date, since this journal and world-discovery initiative will span several school years (the kids stay in the ULIS program for multiple years). Postcards can be sent anytime—throughout the year, across seasons, even during holidays! The kids will find them when they return.
I hope this idea appeals to as many of you as possible, and that you’ll spread the word to your fellow travelers. Help us dream and explore!
For those who’d like to write to us in a language other than French, no problem—quite the opposite!
Thank you in advance for your participation! Below is our address. If you’d like us to write back, feel free to leave your address on a corner of the postcard! 😊
ULIS program students Bonnat Elementary School 12 rue Georges Sand 23220 BONNAT Thank you, and I hope to hear from you soon! 😊 Julien 🙂
Hi there! I have to leave Ivato/Antananarivo on December 16th. I have a lot of ariary that I’d like to exchange for euros since I might not be coming back to Madagascar (after this 21st trip). I think the exchange office at Ivato also buys ariary back. If any of you have seen the rate for this buyback in advance, thanks a million!
Hi there, I use video and photo editing software for my "work".
A conflict has been showing up lately when I open the software. Photo attached.
Is there a specialist around who could help me out?
Thanks in advance.
A conflict has been showing up lately when I open the software. Photo attached.
Is there a specialist around who could help me out?
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for a website that would let me plot my travel route in advance so I can print it out. The idea is to create a map with a little “me” on a bike that my parents can move along as I progress, since I’m planning to cycle all the way to Nepal.
If any of you have done something similar or know of a good tool, I’d love to hear your tips!
Thanks in advance! 😊
Hi,
I'm looking to buy an ultra-lightweight 50/55L travel backpack with a suitcase or front opening. Does anyone have any brand and/or model recommendations? Thanks, Emma
I'm looking to buy an ultra-lightweight 50/55L travel backpack with a suitcase or front opening. Does anyone have any brand and/or model recommendations? Thanks, Emma
Hello. We’re a retired couple heading to Sri Lanka from January to March. After the November floods, I’d like to know if we can offer hands-on help to the locals, maybe pack some clothes or other items people might need in our luggage, and who we could give them to. Thanks for any info from those on the ground.
