Je suis un Marocain resident en france, jeune diplomé en tourisme (BAC+2). J'amerais partir au Maroc 2/3mois, a Kenitra précisement car j'ai un logement labas, pour prendre des cours d'arabe.
Etant donné que mon niveau d'arabe ne me permet pas de travailler n'importe où, je pense chercher du travail dans un call centers où l'on parle français. Au niveau du salaire, cela varie entre 2000 dhs et 5000dhs.
Pensez-vous que 2000dhs suffise pour vivre correctement pour une seule personne sachant que j'ai deja le logement et sans compter le budget des cours d'arabe que j'ai deja prévu.
Puisque le problème du loyer est réglé, sache qu'avec Casa et Tétouan, Kénitra figure parmi les villes les moins chères du Maroc. Si tu possèdes un minimum de notions culinaires, tu arriveras à te débrouiller facilement avec 65 dhs par jour. Evite juste d'acheter tes légumes, fruits et poissons dans les grandes surfaces si chères au camping-caristes.
Je ne vois pas pourquoi tu met Casa sur le meme panier que Kenitra et Tetouan, ca n' a rien a voir, Casa c'est monstrueux et surtout probléme de transport, ou on a beaucoup de dépense, Café, Resto ....
Sinon pour repondre a la question initiale, je pense qu'avec 3000 DH/ mois, tu pourra vivre a Kenitra, mais cela aussi depend de tes depense, si tu es fumeurs, accor café, si tu mange a l 'exterieur ou tu prefére cuisiner chez toi, si tu prévois des petit sortis le soir ou déplacement a Rabat, Casa ...
bonjour
je te repondre en toute franchise je parle de moi sans dire elle ou eux
je telecherge mon portable pour un budjet 2500 dhs par moi
et tu veux vivre avec 2000 dhs comment
le gasoil de la voiture me coute 1000 dhs tu sais pour vivre il faut au minimun
12000 dhs 😏
moi je suis dans l immobilier il ya toujours des recherches pour des biens immo
tu ne peux pas te deplacer tout le temps donc le telephonne remplace le gasoil
c est la verite
bonjour
je te repondre en toute franchise je parle de moi sans dire elle ou eux
je telecherge mon portable pour un budjet 2500 dhs par moi
et tu veux vivre avec 2000 dhs comment
le gasoil de la voiture me coute 1000 dhs tu sais pour vivre il faut au minimun
12000 dhs 😏
2500 Dhs / mois pour recharge portable et 12 000 Dhs pour passer un mois, certainement, et sans vouloir entrer dans ta vie perso, t es le genre qui passe la nuit en dehors de la maison, pour se réveiller a 14 h et passer la journée a dépenser son gasoil et appeler ses nombreuses copines, automatiquement l'argent tombe du ciel, donc tu n'a meme pas le temps pour bosser car si c 'est le cas, je me demande quant est ce que tu dépense ces 12 000 Dhs .
Je suis désolé, mais je trouve que béte que quelq'un depense 2000 dhs pour une recharge de portable et en plus se sens fier de le dire .
Le SMIC marocain est de 2000 dh...
Je pense qu'une personne qui vient vivre au Maroc pour seulement 3 mois et qui est déjà logé peut s'en tirer sans problème.
A priori une voiture n'est pas nécessaire, et pas besoin de refaire sa garde robe !
La nourriture est bon marché si on achète les produits locaux et qu'on se fait soi même les repas.
Reste le portable ... bon, c'est sûr, il ne faut pas être trop bavard !
Mais si monsieur a travaillé toute la journée dans un call center, il aura peut être envie de faire un break le soir ....
"moi je suis dans l immobilier il ya toujours des recherches pour des biens immo "
tu ne peux pas te deplacer tout le temps donc le telephonne remplace le gasoil
Monsieur compte travailler dans un call-center si en plus il doit lui-même payer les communications...
Et puis là, tu es en train de mélanger frais professionnels et frais quotidiens.
"c est la verite"
En citant un philosophe belge contemporain*:"En vérité, la vérité, il n'y a pas de vérité !"
* Jean-Claude Van Damme de son vrai nom Jean-Claude Camille Francois Van Vaerenbergh, acteur engagé et intellectuel belge né en 1960.
oui c'est sur que si je travaill en call center, j'aurai pas trop envie de reprendre le téléphone! 😛
Alors pour vous donnez plus d'information, je n'ai pas besoin de voiture sur place, je suis pas très bavard au téléphone , j'irais surement plus au cyber pour envoyer des mails ou aller sur MSN, les cyber ne sont vraiment pas cher au maroc je trouve. Je ferais la cuisine chez moi mais bien evidemment je ne pourrais pas resister de manger un tajine en ville donc niveau nourriture ça sera moitié/moitié je pense. Je ferais quelques sortie a rabat et d'autre villes mais sans en abuser, faut que je profite du maroc quand meme!!
Donc en gros pas beaucoup de depense personnel et cela pour 3 mois environ...
D'autres conseils sont les bienvenues!
je viens mettre mon grain de sel...
Perso je pense que 2000dh ce sera un peu juste.
Le petit déj à 10dh (chez toi), un repas en resto populaire (35dh plus boisson 10dh), un repas chez toi à 20dh, une bouteille coca (8.5dh), un Yaghourt, un fruit? 10dh un cyber 5dh... cela fait déjà: 98.5dh... à la louche: 100dh par jour.
Et c'est sans aucun transport.
100dh par jour... 3000dh par mois!
Cela me parait un minimum !...
Et celui qui arrive à se débrouiller avec 1800 dhs par mois, qui arrive avec cela à payer un loyer, à nourrir une famille (une femme et 2 enfants) et qui arrive à le faire décemment sans demander rien à personne (perso, j'en connais quelques uns dans ce cas). Ca leur fait bien 60 dhs à 4?
Quand tu fais tes courses et que tu prends ton petit déjeuner chez toi 6 dhs suffisent largement. Un tagine à Kénitra dans les restos populaires revient à 25 dhs plus la boissons à 5. Il reste bien 30 dhs pour le soir. A 15 dhs t'arrives à te concocter un dîner correct chez toi. 5 dhs pour le cyber et 10 dhs pour les transports. C'est limite-limite mais pas impossible.
Cordialement.
Tu nous parles de ton mode de vie et qui n´a rien ßa voir avec les autres et peut etre encore moins avec le poseur de
la question. sache qu´il ya des gens, tres nombreux qui gagnent 2500 dh par mois et qui vivent heureux.
tu as raison, et j'en connais aussi qui vivent avec une très petite somme.
Mais je ne sais pas si notre ami qui pose la question serait prêt à vivre comme cela.
Il semble avoir vécu longtemps en France au point de ne pas parler très bien l'arabe...
Il y a des (mauvaises😉) habitudes qui se prennent vite.
Et il est difficile alors de (re)vivre avec très peu de moyens ce qui veut dire renoncer à beaucoup de choses auxquelles il est habitué.
C'est dans ce sens là que je parlais de 3.000dh...
Mais c'est sur, beaucoup de gens au Maroc se débrouillent avec beaucoup moins!
Cordialement.
Je suis née en France don je vis a la française depuis lontemp...
C'est sur que j'aimerais faire des activitées, profiter. D'après ce que vous dites 2000dhs rique de faire juste.
J'aimerais m'inscrire dans un club de sport( muscu ou autre) donc ça fait un cout supplémentaire. Je suis pret a renoncer niveau qualité de vie vu que c'est seulement pour quelques mois mais bon j'aimerais garder vivre corrctement, ne rien manquer!
Si je ne voyage pas, visite pas le maroc se n'ai pas très grave etant donné que je reviendrais focement!!^^
3000dhs serait le top! Il y a des salaire de call centers qui vont jusqu'a 4000dhs...
salut
je suis a la recherhce d un logement sur kenitra a lanné puisque tu y habite ou que tu y as habité jaurai aime k*quelque conseil corncerant les loyers et si tu as des bon plans voila merci de me repondre salam alikoum
Hello, my husband and I will be in Egypt this coming November. Cairo seems more challenging to explore without a guide, and we’ll be there for 3 full days. Would anyone have the name of a guide?
Thanks!
Hi, we're looking for a guide to show us around Essaouira.
We're 11 adults and don't want to go through an agency. If you have a contact to help us discover this city, that would be great!
Thanks
I’m heading back to Egypt for the first time in 30 years this July. Last time, I was 20, and we spent two weeks traveling on a shoestring as backpackers.
I’m wondering about a "cruise" on a felucca from Aswan—mainly to avoid being stuck in an air-conditioned tourist bubble (we’re already spending our first week in that setting with our diving club). We’d like to explore the most interesting stretch of the Nile between Aswan and Luxor. Do you have any thoughts on this option, tips, or maybe some contacts?
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them.
I didn’t find any info on the forum.
Best,
Here’s a first draft for a 14-night itinerary during the Christmas break with two teens. We’re especially fond of hiking (nothing too extreme, though), which is why we’re drawn to the south.
- Marrakech (2 nights)
- Aït Ben Haddou (1 night)
- Dadès (3 nights, though we’re thinking of doing a day trip to the Todra Gorge on one of those days)
- M'hamid (1 night)
- Erg Chigaga (1 night)
- 4 nights to slot in
- Marrakech (2 nights)
Okay, I realize this involves a lot of driving, and we’re still debating the return route since we’d like to avoid the Tichka Pass in January, but going through Taroudant seems like it would add *a lot* of time. 😕
If you’ve got other suggestions for an itinerary with great hikes, I’m all ears!
Also, the 4 nights total in MRK isn’t really our preference, but since we’re arriving/departing super early from overseas, we’d like to be a bit rested before the long flight.
Another question:
For hikes (aside from the desert one), is it better to have a guide with us, or are the trails well-marked?
Hi everyone,
Our trip to Morocco will be from November 3 to 17, in the High Atlas.
Basically, our route would be:
Marrakech - Aït Benhaddou
Skoura - Tinghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via the N12 to Zagora
Zagora - Draa Valley - Marrakech
It seems to be the low season, so I’d love to travel without having to book accommodations in advance. In other countries, pre-booking has restricted us and kept us from visiting unplanned sites. Freedom is important to us, but I’d also like to avoid arriving somewhere and finding nothing available.
What do you recommend? Book ahead or not?
Your advice is always helpful, and thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this for me.
Roberto
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
I’m just a few days away from my trip to Marrakech—I’m leaving from November 13th to 20th and bringing my parents along! I’d love to plan my stay as best as I can, and I’m sure the forum crew can help. So, here are my questions:
- Where’s the best place to exchange money without getting ripped off? The owner of the riad where we’re staying told us to avoid doing it at the airport because it’s really expensive and to do it in the medina instead, near Jemaa el-Fna square.
- Which traditional hammams do you recommend that are reasonably priced? How much should we budget for one? That’ll help me plan my expenses.
- What are some nice restaurants in the medina?
- I’d also like to know roughly how much to expect for a tea, a meal, a taxi, a djellaba, and babouches. I don’t want to get overcharged and would like to know what to expect.
- What are the must-do activities and places to visit?
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April.
What do you think of this rate?
This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available?
-Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)?
-Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?)
- What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!)
- In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid?
- Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country?
- A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you:
- Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why?
- Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies.
- Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car?
- Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years.
Have a great evening,
Roberto
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.