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Traversée d'Algésiras: passage par Tanger plus difficile et risqué que par Ceuta?
by Micky3
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonsoir,
traversèe Algesira Tanger ou Ceuta, pouvez vous me dire si le passage par Tanger est plus difficile et plus risqué que par Ceuta
cordialement A+
cordialement A+
😊
en quoi risqué ???????
je suis toujours vivante 🏴☠️
je ne suis jamais passée par ceuta 😉
salam hadinna
en quoi risqué ???????
je suis toujours vivante 🏴☠️
je ne suis jamais passée par ceuta 😉
salam hadinna
hadinna a raison....c pareil!
une grande différence néanmoins: arriver à ceuta n'est pas arriver au maroc mais...en espagne!! à toi de voir donc, si tu préfères avoir à faire à des espagnols ou bien des marocains en arrivant en afrique... à ce propos, je ne sais pas où ça en est à présent mais cet été, à cebta, ils passaient tout le monde à la température à la douane à cause de la grippe A. Donc + d'attente etc....
voilà, régale toi bien en tout cas et salue le maroc de ma part, et de celle de tous ceux qui pensent sans cesse à cette terre gorgée de sable et de ciel, terre dont le vent nous appelle et nous nourrie, mais terre que nous ne foulons aujourd'hui.....
une grande différence néanmoins: arriver à ceuta n'est pas arriver au maroc mais...en espagne!! à toi de voir donc, si tu préfères avoir à faire à des espagnols ou bien des marocains en arrivant en afrique... à ce propos, je ne sais pas où ça en est à présent mais cet été, à cebta, ils passaient tout le monde à la température à la douane à cause de la grippe A. Donc + d'attente etc....
voilà, régale toi bien en tout cas et salue le maroc de ma part, et de celle de tous ceux qui pensent sans cesse à cette terre gorgée de sable et de ciel, terre dont le vent nous appelle et nous nourrie, mais terre que nous ne foulons aujourd'hui.....
natchapacha
Bonsoir, j'ai fait Roanne , Algésiras , Tanger , et Casa seule et sans problèmes de plus en traversant Tanger j'écrivais des sms en conduisant , pas de problèmes à avoir
tu n'as rien à craindre
tu n'as rien à craindre
Michèle
salam
labesse ??
sautera sautera pas ???? 😉
hadinna
labesse ??
sautera sautera pas ???? 😉
hadinna
en traversant Tanger j'écrivais des sms en conduisant
😠😠😠😠😠😠 Alors, alors ????? Pas bien ça .....................
😠😠😠😠😠😠 Alors, alors ????? Pas bien ça .....................
Carpe Diem
" ...en traversant Tanger j'écrivais des sms en conduisant ... "
1 - Bravo, cela prouve a quel point vous assimilez vite les us et coutumes locales... 2 - Bravo car conduire normalement est déjà passablement stressant alors en envoyant des SMS, cela frise l'exploit... 3 - Pas bravo, car lorsqu'on va dans un pays étranger, on doit ( par principe ) RESPECTER les règles et lois de celui-ci...surtout quand on sait que cela est interdit..........
1 - Bravo, cela prouve a quel point vous assimilez vite les us et coutumes locales... 2 - Bravo car conduire normalement est déjà passablement stressant alors en envoyant des SMS, cela frise l'exploit... 3 - Pas bravo, car lorsqu'on va dans un pays étranger, on doit ( par principe ) RESPECTER les règles et lois de celui-ci...surtout quand on sait que cela est interdit..........
"traversèe Algesira Tanger ou Ceuta, pouvez vous me dire si le passage par Tanger est plus difficile et plus risqué que par Ceuta"
Ca dépend de ce que représente pour toi la notion du risque. Si des poils bien ostentatoires entre le nez et la lèvre inférieure en font partie (voir image attachée), passe alors par Ceuta mais à condition d'y rester parce que si, mâle t'en prends et que, tu décides de passer la frontière espano-marocaine tu risques encore d'en croiser.
Ca dépend de ce que représente pour toi la notion du risque. Si des poils bien ostentatoires entre le nez et la lèvre inférieure en font partie (voir image attachée), passe alors par Ceuta mais à condition d'y rester parce que si, mâle t'en prends et que, tu décides de passer la frontière espano-marocaine tu risques encore d'en croiser.
En fait, tout dépend surtout ou tu vas en arrivant...Si tu veut faire la côte atlantique par exemple, vaut mieux arriver par Tanger...Si tu veux te rendre sur la côte méditerranéenne par exemple, vaut mieux arriver par Bab Sebta (les marocains apprécient qu'on appelle Ceuta de cette façon, c'est pas mal à savoir pour la douane😉)
Et à savoir aussi que Algerisas-Tanger= 1h alors que Algerisas-Ceuta=30 min et c'est moins cher.
Bon voyage!
Bon voyage!
Si tu ne fais aujourd'hui ce que tu as dans la tête, demain tu l'auras dans le cul...
bonsoir,
traversèe Algesira Tanger ou Ceuta, pouvez vous me dire si le passage par Tanger est plus difficile et plus risqué que par Ceuta
cordialement A+
C'est quoi c'délire, de quoi as tu peur !? 🤪 Le maroc c'est pas la FR 😛
cordialement A+
C'est quoi c'délire, de quoi as tu peur !? 🤪 Le maroc c'est pas la FR 😛
Le ciel c'est comme la mer à l’envers,
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
Par dessus tout, c'est la joie qui m'en impose,
Et je vends ma sublime 500 Royal Enfield, qui se bronze à GOA !
bonsoir,
traversèe Algesira Tanger ou Ceuta, pouvez vous me dire si le passage par Tanger est plus difficile et plus risqué que par Ceuta
cordialement A+
La diference est le bateau, mieux Transmediterranea que la Compagnie Marrocaine de Navigation (COMANAV), et que par Tanger tu ne dois pas traverser la frontière Espagne-Marroc. Si tu vas Tanger peut être va mieux sortir par Tarifa, moins de foule.
cordialement A+
La diference est le bateau, mieux Transmediterranea que la Compagnie Marrocaine de Navigation (COMANAV), et que par Tanger tu ne dois pas traverser la frontière Espagne-Marroc. Si tu vas Tanger peut être va mieux sortir par Tarifa, moins de foule.
Entre un bateau rapid ou lent je choisissais le lent, entre un bateua lent et marcher a pied je chosissais marcher par ce que marcher fait ce monde le lieu vaste et plein de surprises qui était dans le passé. (Lawrence Millman) .
prend ceuta algesiras 30 min tu fais des courses a ceuta et voila pas de risque rien a craindre les bateau espagnole sont bien entretenu ;
pas comme cette merde de biladi dons je suis sortie hier 😠
Visite le MAROC avec son 4x4 :D
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We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
