Bonjour tout le monde
Voilà je souhaite fort bien connaître quelqu'un qui a fais un voyage a partir de maroc vers Mecque par vélo ou à pied.
Merci .
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Du Maroc vers La Mecque (Arabie Saoudite) à pied ou à vélo
by Abdollah
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Oui, je connais quelqu'un mais il l'a fait à dos de chameau et il y a quelque temps déjà.Il s'appelle Ibn Battûta.J'essaierai de te retrouver son email.🙂
Je voudrais bien comprendere cette question bizare, est ce vrai que tu cherche a voyager a pied/velo vers le Meque?! ou tu veut seulement semoquer des autres, pour aller a la meque, il faut premierement avoir un visa et pour des visas, tu aura besoins de l argent...je te donne un tips. essaye de voler c est simple et garantiert wenn du sagst in SchaaAllah
Marrakech
Il y a t' il réellement besoin d'un visa pour les musulmans qui veulent se rendre à la Mecque pour le pèlerinage ?
Les citoyens des pays du Maghreb n'ont-ils pas plus de facilité?
à+
François
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Non seulement il faut un visa, mais même un visa "spécial" pour le pélerinage. Ce visa ne donne accès qu'aux lieux saints. Il n'est délivré que par les agences saoudiennes spécialisées... Le faire en individuel est pratiquement impossible. Il faut passer par une agence! (Business? mais non mais non 😇)
De plus, il y a des quotas délivrés pour chaque pays. Le pays de départ autorise les pélerins à partir suivant les quotas qui lui sont attribués... donc, enquêtes etc...
« Je ne suis pas d’accord avec ce que vous dites, mais je me battrai jusqu’à la mort pour que vous ayez le droit de le dire. »
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"Jessdefrance :Il s'appelle Ibn Battûta.J'essaierai de te retrouver son email "
merci jessdefrance :)
"raoulx :le franchissement à pied des frontières ".
oui c'est vrais raoulx, j'ai pensé a ça, et j'imagine presque tout les problèmes que je peux avoir, mais bon, je compte sur l'aide de Dieu et de nos frère les algériens.
chariff : "Je voudrais bien comprendre cette question bizare, est ce vrai que tu cherche a voyager a pied/vélo vers le Mecque?! ou tu veut seulement semoquer des autres"
bizare !!!!!? se moquer !!! ? :), non pas du tout, les enciens voyagais a pied de maroc vers Mecque et c'étais tout a fais naturel, alors je souhait vraiment vivre cet expérience en contemplant mon destin, et tout ce qui peu m'arriver comme du mal, ou du bien.
chariff :"pour aller a la meque, il faut premierement avoir un visa et pour des visas, tu aura besoins de l argent...je te donne un tips. essaye de voler c est simple et garantiert wenn du sagst in SchaaAllah" je croyais qu'il faut un peux d'argent, et beaucoup de la foi :)
merci pour vous tous mes amis, je continue toujours mes recherches.
"raoulx :le franchissement à pied des frontières ".
oui c'est vrais raoulx, j'ai pensé a ça, et j'imagine presque tout les problèmes que je peux avoir, mais bon, je compte sur l'aide de Dieu et de nos frère les algériens.
chariff : "Je voudrais bien comprendre cette question bizare, est ce vrai que tu cherche a voyager a pied/vélo vers le Mecque?! ou tu veut seulement semoquer des autres"
bizare !!!!!? se moquer !!! ? :), non pas du tout, les enciens voyagais a pied de maroc vers Mecque et c'étais tout a fais naturel, alors je souhait vraiment vivre cet expérience en contemplant mon destin, et tout ce qui peu m'arriver comme du mal, ou du bien.
chariff :"pour aller a la meque, il faut premierement avoir un visa et pour des visas, tu aura besoins de l argent...je te donne un tips. essaye de voler c est simple et garantiert wenn du sagst in SchaaAllah" je croyais qu'il faut un peux d'argent, et beaucoup de la foi :)
merci pour vous tous mes amis, je continue toujours mes recherches.
Et oui, comme tu dis "les anciens voyageaient à pieds"... C'était le bon temps😉.
Maintenant le monde se ferme de plus en plus: frontières fermées, visas, etc...
Tu dois le savoir mieux que les autres, la première frontière que tu rencontreras (vers l'Algérie) en fermée...
Même le pélerinage à La Mecque est géré par l'Administration des hommes... Il ne suffit pas d'avoir la foi... Il faut surtout de l'argent, une autorisation, un visa... Et les saoudiens autorisent un nombres limité de pélerins par pays. Ne devient pas Hadj qui veut...
« Je ne suis pas d’accord avec ce que vous dites, mais je me battrai jusqu’à la mort pour que vous ayez le droit de le dire. »
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Mes voyages à vélo: http://velonomade.weebly.com/
voici qulques extrait de Sourate EL HAJ.
"22.26. Et quand Nous indiquâmes pour Abraham le lieu de la Maison (La Kaaba) : “Ne M'associe rien; et purifie Ma Maison pour ceux qui tournent autour, pour qui s'y tiennent debout et pour ceux qui s'y inclinent et se prosternent”
"22.27. Et fais aux gens une annonce pour le Hajj . Ils viendront vers toi, à pied, et aussi sur toute monture, venant de tout chemin éloigné, "
"22.28. pour participer aux avantages qui leur ont été accordés et pour invoquer le nom d'Allah aux jours fixés, sur la bête de cheptel qu'Il leur a attribuée, "
22.29. Puis qu'ils mettent fin à leurs interdits (qu'ils nettoient leurs corps), qu'ils remplissent leurs voeux, et qu'ils fassent les circuits autour de l'Antique Maison” .
"22.30. Voilà et quiconque prend en haute considération les limites sacrées d'Allah cela lui sera meilleur auprès de Son Seigneur. Le bétail, sauf ce qu'on vous a cité, vous a été rendu licite. Abstenez-vous de la souillure des idoles et abstenez-vous des paroles mensongères".. "22.33. vous tirez des avantages jusqu'à un terme fixé; puis son lieu d'immolation est auprès de l'Antique Maison." ... "22.46. Que ne voyagent-ils sur la terre afin d'avoir des cœurs pour comprendre, et des oreilles pour entendre ? Car ce ne sont pas les yeux qui s'aveuglent, mais, ce sont les cœurs dans les poitrines qui s'aveuglent."
voici un petit message pour ceux, dans ce forum qui rigolent. Je n'ai pas la science supreme loin de la. Mais en lisant ci-haut g l'impression que l'on doit faire le pelrinage par terre. Je vous invite a lire cette Sourah et mediter dessus quelques temps afin d'en saisir le sens.
Donc j'encourage ce monsieur et je lui dit que en europe l'idée du Hajj sur terre fait plus que des adeptes et qu'il ne dois pas renoncer.
Et a ceux qui pensent que c'est trop difficile de le faire sur le sol, je dit "le pèlerinages n'est une obligation que si tu en a la possibilité car un tel voyage est couteux et prend beaucoup de temps".
Pour finir j'ai créer une petite histoire pour illustrer cette question du pèlerinage.
Un jour un enfant vient chez son père et se plein qu'il est trop gros et souvent malade. Sont père avancé dans l'age lui dit: "a partir d'aujourd'hui, tu va monter en haut de la colinne et tu fait faire deux tours de notre champ, et cela, tout les jours." le jeune fit ce que lui dit son père. Les années sont passées l'homme faisait toujours ce que lui avait dit son père, qui est mort entre temps. Mais depuis la science avait avancé et le progrès et la modernité était venue et l'homme avait acheté un scooter pour faire l'exercice que son père lui avait conseillé. Il a après cela a sa descendance etc. Et dans sa descendance on se pose la question de savoir pourquoi sa ne marche plus, pourquoi, on est quand même gros et malade. La réponse est que la modernité amène beaucoup de bienfaits mais pour certaines choses elle doit être mise de côté. Car rien ne sert de faire un footing en moto.
Et pour finir je dirais que voici ici mes idées et ma maniérè de voir, si des gens pensent que c'est mieux de faire déferrement qu'ils le fassent Car c'est Allah qui sait tout, nous on essaie simplement de saisir sa vérité.
a bon entendeur salut et faite passer le message A. l'archi
"22.26. Et quand Nous indiquâmes pour Abraham le lieu de la Maison (La Kaaba) : “Ne M'associe rien; et purifie Ma Maison pour ceux qui tournent autour, pour qui s'y tiennent debout et pour ceux qui s'y inclinent et se prosternent”
"22.27. Et fais aux gens une annonce pour le Hajj . Ils viendront vers toi, à pied, et aussi sur toute monture, venant de tout chemin éloigné, "
"22.28. pour participer aux avantages qui leur ont été accordés et pour invoquer le nom d'Allah aux jours fixés, sur la bête de cheptel qu'Il leur a attribuée, "
22.29. Puis qu'ils mettent fin à leurs interdits (qu'ils nettoient leurs corps), qu'ils remplissent leurs voeux, et qu'ils fassent les circuits autour de l'Antique Maison” .
"22.30. Voilà et quiconque prend en haute considération les limites sacrées d'Allah cela lui sera meilleur auprès de Son Seigneur. Le bétail, sauf ce qu'on vous a cité, vous a été rendu licite. Abstenez-vous de la souillure des idoles et abstenez-vous des paroles mensongères".. "22.33. vous tirez des avantages jusqu'à un terme fixé; puis son lieu d'immolation est auprès de l'Antique Maison." ... "22.46. Que ne voyagent-ils sur la terre afin d'avoir des cœurs pour comprendre, et des oreilles pour entendre ? Car ce ne sont pas les yeux qui s'aveuglent, mais, ce sont les cœurs dans les poitrines qui s'aveuglent."
voici un petit message pour ceux, dans ce forum qui rigolent. Je n'ai pas la science supreme loin de la. Mais en lisant ci-haut g l'impression que l'on doit faire le pelrinage par terre. Je vous invite a lire cette Sourah et mediter dessus quelques temps afin d'en saisir le sens.
Donc j'encourage ce monsieur et je lui dit que en europe l'idée du Hajj sur terre fait plus que des adeptes et qu'il ne dois pas renoncer.
Et a ceux qui pensent que c'est trop difficile de le faire sur le sol, je dit "le pèlerinages n'est une obligation que si tu en a la possibilité car un tel voyage est couteux et prend beaucoup de temps".
Pour finir j'ai créer une petite histoire pour illustrer cette question du pèlerinage.
Un jour un enfant vient chez son père et se plein qu'il est trop gros et souvent malade. Sont père avancé dans l'age lui dit: "a partir d'aujourd'hui, tu va monter en haut de la colinne et tu fait faire deux tours de notre champ, et cela, tout les jours." le jeune fit ce que lui dit son père. Les années sont passées l'homme faisait toujours ce que lui avait dit son père, qui est mort entre temps. Mais depuis la science avait avancé et le progrès et la modernité était venue et l'homme avait acheté un scooter pour faire l'exercice que son père lui avait conseillé. Il a après cela a sa descendance etc. Et dans sa descendance on se pose la question de savoir pourquoi sa ne marche plus, pourquoi, on est quand même gros et malade. La réponse est que la modernité amène beaucoup de bienfaits mais pour certaines choses elle doit être mise de côté. Car rien ne sert de faire un footing en moto.
Et pour finir je dirais que voici ici mes idées et ma maniérè de voir, si des gens pensent que c'est mieux de faire déferrement qu'ils le fassent Car c'est Allah qui sait tout, nous on essaie simplement de saisir sa vérité.
a bon entendeur salut et faite passer le message A. l'archi
salam mon frère 🙂,
je me présente, je suis tunisien, je vie en france, moi aussi j'aimerai visiter la mecque inchallah, mais moi en-faite je pensais plutôt prendre la voiture, le problème c'est que, au moment où je comence à étudier ce projet, je me rend compte que c'est trés difficile, mais DIEU est le plus GRAND!
Je t'encourage frère, j'avoue que je suis sédui par l'idée de partir en vélo!
De toute façon, INCHALLAH (si DIEU le Veut), on peut!
Umar ibn al-Khattab, l'émir des croyants rapporte qu'il a entendu l'envoyer de DIEU salla llahu alayhi wa sallam dire: " les actions ne comptent que par leur intentions, et chacun ne recueillera de rétribution que selon son intention. Ainsi, l'exil de celui qui l'a accomplie pour DIEU et Son Envoyé, sera à DIEU et Son Envoyé. Et l'exil de celui qui l'a accompli en vue d'un bien terrestre poursuivi ou en vue d'une femme qu'il prendrai en mariage, n'aura été que pour le but pour lequel il se sera exilé." (Bukhari et Muslim rapporté aussi par Nasa'i et Tirmidhi).
Je te tiendrai aucourant si j'est des renseignemnts et j'espère que toi aussi tu le fera, INCHALLAH.
De toute façon, INCHALLAH (si DIEU le Veut), on peut!
Umar ibn al-Khattab, l'émir des croyants rapporte qu'il a entendu l'envoyer de DIEU salla llahu alayhi wa sallam dire: " les actions ne comptent que par leur intentions, et chacun ne recueillera de rétribution que selon son intention. Ainsi, l'exil de celui qui l'a accomplie pour DIEU et Son Envoyé, sera à DIEU et Son Envoyé. Et l'exil de celui qui l'a accompli en vue d'un bien terrestre poursuivi ou en vue d'une femme qu'il prendrai en mariage, n'aura été que pour le but pour lequel il se sera exilé." (Bukhari et Muslim rapporté aussi par Nasa'i et Tirmidhi).
Je te tiendrai aucourant si j'est des renseignemnts et j'espère que toi aussi tu le fera, INCHALLAH.
Bonjour,
Je rentre d'Arabie Saoudite où je me suis rendu grâce à une invitation qui m'a permis d'obtenir un visa commercial sur lequel il était indiqué que j'étais Musulman. J'ai pu ainsi en allant de Jeddah à TaÎf m'arrêter à Makkah et visiter la mosquée et la kaaba avec une facilité déconcertante. Tout le monde m'avait dit que ce serait difficile à cause du pèlerinage en cours. C'était tellement simple que j'avais du mal à croire que ce que je vivais était vrai. L'ami Français avec j'étais m'a attendu à la limite de la zone interdite aux non musulmans. André a attendu 38 ans avant d'obtenir un visa. Il semblerait que les choses soient en train de changer. Le tourisme fait partie des orientations politiques du pays, nous avons croisé des Anglais qui avaient un visa de groupe. Ensuite, le village d'où est originaire la famille Royale est en complète rénovation, il en est de même pour le Hedjaz railway. Une école d'enseignement du tourisme est en cours de création. Autant d'éléments qui permettent de penser que sauf changement ou évènement grave, les conditions d'entrée en Arabie vont s'assouplir. Tant mieux car au-delà de certains aspects sociaux (statut de la femme, intolérance religieuse, traitement des travailleurs étrangers asiatiques) c'est un pays magnifique et les Arabes sont extrêmement accueillants.
Tahar
Tahar SLIMANI
Bonjour,
Personnellement, je connais un vieux de la famille qui a avait fait le voyage à pieds depuis le nord de Marrakech à pieds, ça s'est passé aux années 30 ou 40 du 20 siècle 😉, je l'ai entendu une fois parler de son voyage et de ses conditions difficiles ...je ne sais plus si il est vivant ou pas...
de nos jours, un retraité de 63 ans l'a fait depuis la tchechenie, eh oui, il a même traversé l'Irak, un jeune français d'origine Marocaine comptait le faire, je ne sais si il est venu à bout de son projet (voir lien en bas)ceci dit, c'est faisable, il faut de la volonté et des moyens pour le faire et si les frontières avec l' Algerie sont fermées, celles de la Mauritanie ne le sont pas; il y'a aussi l'option aller jusqu'on Tunisie en bateau comme ont fait deux Marcheurs marocains qui ont marché jusqu'en Inde suivant les traces d'Ibn Battuta..
http://www.avmaroc.com/forums/archive/o_t__t_5374__un-retrait%C3%A9-tch%C3%A9tch%C3%A8ne-rejoint-la-mecque-%C3%A0-v%C3%A9lo-lol-.html
http://www.wikio.fr/article/37751672
Personnellement, je connais un vieux de la famille qui a avait fait le voyage à pieds depuis le nord de Marrakech à pieds, ça s'est passé aux années 30 ou 40 du 20 siècle 😉, je l'ai entendu une fois parler de son voyage et de ses conditions difficiles ...je ne sais plus si il est vivant ou pas...
de nos jours, un retraité de 63 ans l'a fait depuis la tchechenie, eh oui, il a même traversé l'Irak, un jeune français d'origine Marocaine comptait le faire, je ne sais si il est venu à bout de son projet (voir lien en bas)ceci dit, c'est faisable, il faut de la volonté et des moyens pour le faire et si les frontières avec l' Algerie sont fermées, celles de la Mauritanie ne le sont pas; il y'a aussi l'option aller jusqu'on Tunisie en bateau comme ont fait deux Marcheurs marocains qui ont marché jusqu'en Inde suivant les traces d'Ibn Battuta..
http://www.avmaroc.com/forums/archive/o_t__t_5374__un-retrait%C3%A9-tch%C3%A9tch%C3%A8ne-rejoint-la-mecque-%C3%A0-v%C3%A9lo-lol-.html
http://www.wikio.fr/article/37751672
"The true traveller is without goal, it is the absence of goals which creates the ultimate traveller."Gao Xingjian 'Soul Mountain'
salam.
a ta place j ecouterai personne tu y va, kan tarive a la frontiere algerienne tu explike ton cas et demande une derogation si on te l accorde tan mieu sinon tu va a oujda et tu prend l avion juskan tunisie (sa coute pa tres chere)
je pense ke tu trouvera des ames charitables sur ton chemin ki t aideron a finir cet belle initiative.
je te souhaite beaucoup de courage et de chance pour ce merveilleux ''voyage''
je te souhaite beaucoup de courage et de chance pour ce merveilleux ''voyage''
je sais parfaitement que l algerie n est pas le pays des ''bisounours''.
mai vut que c un pay musulman, peut etre lui accorderont ils un visa de transit!
si non! tampis pour eux, et ils ora toujours l option de l avion.
vivent les musulmans qui empechent leurs freres de realiser leurs pelerinages.
encore une foi bon courage a toi!!!😉
encore une foi bon courage a toi!!!😉
**** vivent les musulmans qui empechent leurs freres de realiser leurs pelerinages.***
On est ici sur VF ! Il serait bon d'en tenir compte et de ne pas transformer ce sujet en tribune militante de désinformation .
justemen c une question de pelerinage donc de voyage, spirituelle soit il..mai kan meme de voyage!! pour le reste..et pour ma part je ne fai ni de desinformation ni de militantisme.
ps: je te laisse dan ton delire g pa envie de polemique avec toi surtou ke ttes tes interventions son d 1 pessimissme ecoeuran
On est ici sur VF ! Il serait bon d'en tenir compte et de ne pas transformer ce sujet en tribune militante de désinformation .
justemen c une question de pelerinage donc de voyage, spirituelle soit il..mai kan meme de voyage!! pour le reste..et pour ma part je ne fai ni de desinformation ni de militantisme.
ps: je te laisse dan ton delire g pa envie de polemique avec toi surtou ke ttes tes interventions son d 1 pessimissme ecoeuran
Salam,
Je pense qu'il faut oublier l'option frontières Maroco-algériennes, et ce des deux sens, reste l'option demander un visas pour atterir à Alger en partant de Casa ou carrémment passer par le sud du Maroc, Mauritanie...
Je pense qu'il faut oublier l'option frontières Maroco-algériennes, et ce des deux sens, reste l'option demander un visas pour atterir à Alger en partant de Casa ou carrémment passer par le sud du Maroc, Mauritanie...
"The true traveller is without goal, it is the absence of goals which creates the ultimate traveller."Gao Xingjian 'Soul Mountain'
Ce n'est pas un conseil, c'est une option à étudier par la personne qui entend faire le voyage, à investir de son temps pour réaliser son rêve comme d'autres l'ont fait et ont pu nous le faire partager..
"The true traveller is without goal, it is the absence of goals which creates the ultimate traveller."Gao Xingjian 'Soul Mountain'
Sinon, même si ça peut paraître un peu absurde, il reste l'option de contourner la Méditerrannée par le nord : Espagne - France - Italie - Balkans - Turquie - Syrie - Jordanie... Avec comme variante éventuelle un raccourci en bateau (Grèce - Egypte ?). Evidemment, ça fait un gros détour...
Pourquoi pas, cette option a aussi des avantages, notamment le fait qu'on trouve des campings, des pistes cyclables et des voies adaptés au vélo partout en Europe, et s'il veut partir dans les années à venir, ça coincidera surement avec une partie de l'été qui comme tout le monde le sait trop chaud en Afrique...
"The true traveller is without goal, it is the absence of goals which creates the ultimate traveller."Gao Xingjian 'Soul Mountain'
bonjour a tous, dans les années quatre vingt dix, j'ai fais le trajet de paris a la Mecque a pied, en passant sur l'Italie, ex Yougoslavie, Turquie, Syrie, ect........
j'ai mis 1ans et demi, j'ai jamais pris le bus ou le train, que la marche a pied avec un ane qui me porter le peu d'affaire que j'avais, une tente et de quoi faire cuire a manger!
merci a vous et bon courage
salut, dans les années 40 j'ai traversé l'Allemagne jusque la France avec une vache qui s'appelait marguerite
"La guerre c'est le massacre de gens qui ne se connaissent pas au profit de gens qui se connaissent et qui ne se massacrent pas". Paul Valéry.
a mr.genelbart, un peu de respect svp, merci. et respecte mon age!!
Je rejoins Troistrois, un peu de respect sur ce forum fort respectable sera fort apprécié..
"The true traveller is without goal, it is the absence of goals which creates the ultimate traveller."Gao Xingjian 'Soul Mountain'
c'etait une petite blague, une reference a fernandel et son film: la vache et le prisonnier. desolé si j'ai froissé quelqu'un.
"La guerre c'est le massacre de gens qui ne se connaissent pas au profit de gens qui se connaissent et qui ne se massacrent pas". Paul Valéry.
Bonsoir,
Il s'agissait de toute évidence d'une plaisanterie, allusion à un célèbre film de Fernandel, relative au caractère particulièrement épique de l'aventure évoquée par troistrois.
Michel
Il s'agissait de toute évidence d'une plaisanterie, allusion à un célèbre film de Fernandel, relative au caractère particulièrement épique de l'aventure évoquée par troistrois.
Michel
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Nath
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Hi there,
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days
Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon
Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I wanted to share with you the incredible feat my friend José, who’s 72 years old, is currently undertaking. He left Auterive near Toulouse on Monday, May 18, 2026, on his non-electric bike, heading for the North Cape in Norway!
You can follow his route on the link below—he’s currently in Sweden:
https://thierry-thomas.travelmap.net/jose-de-toulouse-a-nord-cap-2026
You can zoom in on the map and click on each stopover town to see the photos
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.
It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.
One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.
We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.
Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.
It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.
One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.
We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.
Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio
Hi, I'm looking for a Pino tandem bike for sale in Quebec and I can't find any. Does anyone have any info, please? Thanks a bunch!
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
hey everyone,
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
A shout-out to a cycling colleague from Savoie
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php
The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php
The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php
First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Hi there,
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Hi there,
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Hi! I’m planning to visit the Stockholm Archipelago by bike in early April.
Do you know if the boats will be running between the different islands at that time of year? For those who’ve already been, all your tips and recommendations are welcome—accommodation, etc. Also, do you know where I can rent a bike in Stockholm? Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Hello there, pedal-powered Young Boys!
Claudio (still from Faverges)
dreaming about a cycling getaway in Italy from Faverges (train all the way to Turin)
from Turin down to Venice along the Po River and back via the Padana (Alta Italia da attraversare – Northern Italy to cross)
The tricky part is getting from Chioggia to Venice.
I read it’s possible by hopping on a boat from island to island,
but it sounds a bit stressful.
Has anyone already tackled this route?
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio
Hi there,
I’m currently looking for a bike to do my first bike trip across France, with the ultimate goal of cycling through Latin America. I’ve got a lot of questions and I’d love to hear if you have any answers or advice to share. First off, I’ve been through this before with hiking. I want to get top-quality gear right away. When I started hiking, I ended up buying everything three times—first beginner gear, then intermediate, then expert, etc. For biking, I’d prefer to skip that process and invest right now in a bike that could ideally handle Latin America. I’ve set a total max budget of around 5000 € (roughly 4000–4500 € for the bike and the rest for accessories: panniers, helmet, cycling shorts, etc.).
So, I’ve got quite a few questions:
* I’ve read in several places that some people recommend buying the bike directly in Latin America. Since I need a first bike to train in Europe, would it be better to buy an entry-level bike in France (and sell it before the big departure)? Or is it preferable to start right away with my final bike to get used to it? Is buying it there just to save a bit of money?
* For a long-term trip (around six months) in Latin America, is it better to go for a gravel bike or a mountain bike?
* Should I buy a new bike or a refurbished one? Even more so given that I’m planning a long trip—could a refurbished bike end up causing more breakdowns?
If you have any advice on models, technical features to prioritize, or recommended sellers or resellers, I’d love to hear it. I’m a total beginner—I’ve only just started watching videos and reading up on the subject, and all the technical specs are new to me!
Thanks in advance for your help!
I’m currently looking for a bike to do my first bike trip across France, with the ultimate goal of cycling through Latin America. I’ve got a lot of questions and I’d love to hear if you have any answers or advice to share. First off, I’ve been through this before with hiking. I want to get top-quality gear right away. When I started hiking, I ended up buying everything three times—first beginner gear, then intermediate, then expert, etc. For biking, I’d prefer to skip that process and invest right now in a bike that could ideally handle Latin America. I’ve set a total max budget of around 5000 € (roughly 4000–4500 € for the bike and the rest for accessories: panniers, helmet, cycling shorts, etc.).
So, I’ve got quite a few questions:
* I’ve read in several places that some people recommend buying the bike directly in Latin America. Since I need a first bike to train in Europe, would it be better to buy an entry-level bike in France (and sell it before the big departure)? Or is it preferable to start right away with my final bike to get used to it? Is buying it there just to save a bit of money?
* For a long-term trip (around six months) in Latin America, is it better to go for a gravel bike or a mountain bike?
* Should I buy a new bike or a refurbished one? Even more so given that I’m planning a long trip—could a refurbished bike end up causing more breakdowns?
If you have any advice on models, technical features to prioritize, or recommended sellers or resellers, I’d love to hear it. I’m a total beginner—I’ve only just started watching videos and reading up on the subject, and all the technical specs are new to me!
Thanks in advance for your help!