"Voyager ajoute à sa vie"-proverbe berbère
Trajet Marrakech/Essaouira
by Myriamita
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bjr en avril je vais au Maroc et jaimerais savoir quel est le moyen de transport le plus economique pour faire Marrakech/Essaouira, par exemple car ? Voila et si qqn peut me donner les prix?
merci
mymy
"Voyager ajoute à sa vie"-proverbe berbère
"Voyager ajoute à sa vie"-proverbe berbère
hé myriamita !
Comme on se retrouve sur cette destination aussi ! 😉
Marrakech - Essaouira : 3h30 à 4h que ce soit en bus ("direct") ou avec un taxi (pas fou !)... Quant au train, inexistant sur ce trajet. L'avantage du bus : c'est bien moins cher ! Tarif avril 2005 : 35 dh/pers + 10 dh/pers pour mettre le bagage (gros sac à dos) en soute.
En gros, les différentes compagnies s'alignent en terme de tarifs... et se valent en confort... variable d'un autocar à l'autre (on a eu l'aller top-climatisé !... le retour bcp + vieillot...). Il faut simplement bien veiller à prendre un "direct" avec peu d'arrêts, qu'un omnibus de campagne... qui mettra pas loin de 6 ou 7h pour arriver... Plusieurs départs chaque jour (si je me rappelle bien, ttes compagnies confondues il y en avait à peu près 1 ttes les heures)... aux gares routières des deux villes. A Essaouira, pour 5dh, un taxi t'emmène au pied des remparts, à l'entrée de la médina. ça peut se faire à pied, mais bon, avec les gros sacs, c'est + agréable...
BonS voyageS alors, Inch'Allah. 😛
Marrakech - Essaouira : 3h30 à 4h que ce soit en bus ("direct") ou avec un taxi (pas fou !)... Quant au train, inexistant sur ce trajet. L'avantage du bus : c'est bien moins cher ! Tarif avril 2005 : 35 dh/pers + 10 dh/pers pour mettre le bagage (gros sac à dos) en soute.
En gros, les différentes compagnies s'alignent en terme de tarifs... et se valent en confort... variable d'un autocar à l'autre (on a eu l'aller top-climatisé !... le retour bcp + vieillot...). Il faut simplement bien veiller à prendre un "direct" avec peu d'arrêts, qu'un omnibus de campagne... qui mettra pas loin de 6 ou 7h pour arriver... Plusieurs départs chaque jour (si je me rappelle bien, ttes compagnies confondues il y en avait à peu près 1 ttes les heures)... aux gares routières des deux villes. A Essaouira, pour 5dh, un taxi t'emmène au pied des remparts, à l'entrée de la médina. ça peut se faire à pied, mais bon, avec les gros sacs, c'est + agréable...
BonS voyageS alors, Inch'Allah. 😛
"Nous méritons toutes nos rencontres ; elles sont accordées à notre destin, et ont une signification qu'il nous appartient de déchiffrer." Mauriac
😇de l'aéroport, tu peu aller en taxi jusqu'à SUPRA tour les bus sont plus confortable, climatisé et le trajet dure 2h30 à 3 h 60 dh environ, sinon tu te fais déposer à la Gare routière, et là c'est l'aventure car les bus s'arrête trés souvent, moins confortable, mais typique du Maroc. Bon voyage
"et là c'est l'aventure car les bus s'arrête trés souvent..."
si pour toi, 4 ou 5 arrêts (de 30 s à 5 min) en 3h30, c'est très souvent : OK. Personnellement, ça reste du plutôt "direct" pour moi ! 🙂
"...moins confortable, mais typique du Maroc..." Garanti, à l'aller on pouvait pas avoir plus confortable, et pourtant c'était pas SupraTour ! OK au retour, c'était plus "typique"... c'est vrai... mais c'est justement ça l'aventure d'un pays à découvrir !
Les voyages touristes bc-bg en bus climatisés à 20° avec rafraîchissements, petits-coins, magnétoscope, etc... moi, c'est pas mon truc ! 😉 J'ai grandement préféré partagé qqs heures avec les "locaux"... rencontres très sympas pdt ces trajets...
"...moins confortable, mais typique du Maroc..." Garanti, à l'aller on pouvait pas avoir plus confortable, et pourtant c'était pas SupraTour ! OK au retour, c'était plus "typique"... c'est vrai... mais c'est justement ça l'aventure d'un pays à découvrir !
Les voyages touristes bc-bg en bus climatisés à 20° avec rafraîchissements, petits-coins, magnétoscope, etc... moi, c'est pas mon truc ! 😉 J'ai grandement préféré partagé qqs heures avec les "locaux"... rencontres très sympas pdt ces trajets...
"Nous méritons toutes nos rencontres ; elles sont accordées à notre destin, et ont une signification qu'il nous appartient de déchiffrer." Mauriac
décidemment de lamérik latine à lafrik, tu es sur tous les fronts😉 en tout cas quelle surprise!!!
Merci pour les infos et puis les 10dh pour les bagages ds la soute ça ma fait plutot rire!!!!! Mais bon...
Dc apparemment le bus est le seul moyen... cest cool😄
a bientot
ps: pour essaouira et marrakech, jpense que ce passera cette fois-ci de la fievre jaune!!!😛
ps: pour essaouira et marrakech, jpense que ce passera cette fois-ci de la fievre jaune!!!😛
mymy
"Voyager ajoute à sa vie"-proverbe berbère
"Voyager ajoute à sa vie"-proverbe berbère
vous pouvez aussi négocier un taxi collectif selon combien vous êtes, les horaires peuvent s'adapter alors que les bus non ;
vous pouvez vous renseigner derrière la gare routière là où attendent les taxis pour voir s'il y a des départs auquels vous pouvez vous joindre
bjr en avril je vais au Maroc et jaimerais savoir quel est le moyen de transport le plus economique pour faire Marrakech/Essaouira, par exemple car ? Voila et si qqn peut me donner les prix?
merci
je vous propose un moyen ecologique et en plus confortable: les ânes j'espère que tu peux le mettre dans ton carnet de voyageur et c'est bon prix.
Transport et Vacances moins cher
je vous propose un moyen ecologique et en plus confortable: les ânes j'espère que tu peux le mettre dans ton carnet de voyageur et c'est bon prix.
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Attention au moment du festival gnaoua d'essaouira les bus sont vites complets et le prix des grands taxis en profitent pour augmenter les prix. (idem pour se loger)
Meme chose pour en repartir, j'ai attendu 2 jours pour repartir ...
L'important n'est pas de voyager vite, mais de voyager longtemps!
bonjour
pour faire le trajet marrakech essaouira, y a de type de car, un qui coute 3, 5 euro presque (35 dh), tu le trouvera a la garre routiere, ghichet n 7 et et pendan toute la journée du 9h15 du matin jusqu'a 17h de l'apre midi ils font 4 h de route parcque qu'il s'arrete a chaque village
y a aussi supratour, un car lié a l'oncf un car confortable, il fs 2 h de route tu le trouvra a la garre du train ; il coute 5, 5 euro (55dh)
si tu as d'autre question je suisa votre disposition
amicalement mohamed
merci pour ces precisions. 4h de trajet cest raisonnable moi ça ne me drange pas car les cars supratour cest vraiment le truc pour les touristes style air conditionné etc.
voila
je voulais savoir a combien de kms se trouve laeroport du centre ville de marrakech? En taxis ou bus on met combien de temps ??
merci
mymy
"Voyager ajoute à sa vie"-proverbe berbère
"Voyager ajoute à sa vie"-proverbe berbère
Hello,
J'avais fait l'aller-retour dans la journee. En se levant un peu tot et en rentrant un peu tard, ca allait. On n'avait pourtant pas pris le bus climatise (inutile pour le mois d'avril, il fait pas si chaud), mais le bus 'standard' a la gare routiere. La route est bonne, le trajet assez rapide et sympathique. Tout cela date du printemps 2002 (?)... pas de premiere fraicheur, mais je serais surprise que ca aie beaucoup change.
J'avais fait l'aller-retour dans la journee. En se levant un peu tot et en rentrant un peu tard, ca allait. On n'avait pourtant pas pris le bus climatise (inutile pour le mois d'avril, il fait pas si chaud), mais le bus 'standard' a la gare routiere. La route est bonne, le trajet assez rapide et sympathique. Tout cela date du printemps 2002 (?)... pas de premiere fraicheur, mais je serais surprise que ca aie beaucoup change.
Le Festival Gnaoua et Musiques du Monde sera à sa 8ème édition. Le feu sacré des Gnaoua brûlera cette année à Essaouira entre le 22 et le 26 juin 2006.
Délaisse les grandes routes, prends les sentiers. Pythagore
Bon allez Mymy, raconte un peu !!
T'as opté pour quoi ? les ânes ? Supratour ? le taxi ? le bus "local" ?... la marche à pied ? 😏😏 Quels sont les tarifs actuels ? (je pense à tous ceux qui vont forcément nous reposer la question bientôt 😉)
Marrakech ? Essaouira ? Tu y as vu quoi ? C'était GENIAL, mais encore...
Allez, Mymy, raconte un peu !!
T'as opté pour quoi ? les ânes ? Supratour ? le taxi ? le bus "local" ?... la marche à pied ? 😏😏 Quels sont les tarifs actuels ? (je pense à tous ceux qui vont forcément nous reposer la question bientôt 😉)
Marrakech ? Essaouira ? Tu y as vu quoi ? C'était GENIAL, mais encore...
Allez, Mymy, raconte un peu !!
"Nous méritons toutes nos rencontres ; elles sont accordées à notre destin, et ont une signification qu'il nous appartient de déchiffrer." Mauriac
😉 Quel cafard de retourner à Paris mais toutes les bonnes choses ont une fin 😛
Déjà nous avons commencé par Marrakech avec un temps magnifik: place Jemaa El Fna, palais de la Bahia (entrée gratuite à cette periode), jardin de Majorelle (25 dirhams), médersa Ben Youssef ( 20 dir pour les etudiants sinon 5) et les tombeaux saadiens (1 malheureux dir) et plains d autres choses encore !!!! Pour quitter l aéroport de Marrakech et aterrir au centre il faut bien 15 min et en négociant on a 1 grand taxi pour 40dir. Sinon pour se déplacer dans marrakech pour un petit taxi c est en gal dans les 15 dir et les grands c est 25-30 dir !!! de toute facon il faut TOUT marchander 😏 !!!!
Enfin 3 jours à Essaouira et comme tout le monde me l avait dit sur ce forum (notamment toi Wapiti🙂) cette ville blanche est extraordinaire !! Ville des surfeurs, baba cools et des chats aussi (miau) qui sont partout !! Malgré le vent qui a soufflé, on s est pris de sacrés coups de soleil quand meme😊. on a fait du chameau (enfin pas moi), on sest promené sur le port, les canons, les remparts...mais je vous assure (contrairement a ce que disent qqs sur le forum)Essaouira ne se fait pas en une demi journée à moins de la faire en formule 1😛!!! Ah oui pour le trajet (marrakech-essaouira) on a opté a laller pour supratours: 60dir/perso bagages compris car c est + pratik etant donné quon etait 8 en taxis cela aurait été trop cher !!! Par contre au retour sur marrakech on a pris un mini bus avec un chauffeur super sympa(Rachid) qui a mis 2h30 pour arriver à laéroport pour un total de 1200 dir. Je ne vous parle pas de toutes les rencontres avec ces gens merveilleux, ouverts...à qui je fais dailleurs une dedicace😛. Flâner dans les médinas, les ruelles ombragées, se laisser guider par le flot est aussi une tres belle et interessante facon de visietr un pays !!! question nourriture on mange bien pour 3-4 dir dans les 2 villes meme si essaouira est un chouia + chere!
Voilà mes premieres infos car la je viens de rentrer et apres tous ces souvenirs jai un peu tout qui se brouillent ds ma tête et je dois surement oublier des choses!!! n hésiteez pas a me demander des precisions!!!!! voila, maintenant wapiti le prochain c est le Pérou WAOU !!!
a bientot Be'slama
Déjà nous avons commencé par Marrakech avec un temps magnifik: place Jemaa El Fna, palais de la Bahia (entrée gratuite à cette periode), jardin de Majorelle (25 dirhams), médersa Ben Youssef ( 20 dir pour les etudiants sinon 5) et les tombeaux saadiens (1 malheureux dir) et plains d autres choses encore !!!! Pour quitter l aéroport de Marrakech et aterrir au centre il faut bien 15 min et en négociant on a 1 grand taxi pour 40dir. Sinon pour se déplacer dans marrakech pour un petit taxi c est en gal dans les 15 dir et les grands c est 25-30 dir !!! de toute facon il faut TOUT marchander 😏 !!!!
Enfin 3 jours à Essaouira et comme tout le monde me l avait dit sur ce forum (notamment toi Wapiti🙂) cette ville blanche est extraordinaire !! Ville des surfeurs, baba cools et des chats aussi (miau) qui sont partout !! Malgré le vent qui a soufflé, on s est pris de sacrés coups de soleil quand meme😊. on a fait du chameau (enfin pas moi), on sest promené sur le port, les canons, les remparts...mais je vous assure (contrairement a ce que disent qqs sur le forum)Essaouira ne se fait pas en une demi journée à moins de la faire en formule 1😛!!! Ah oui pour le trajet (marrakech-essaouira) on a opté a laller pour supratours: 60dir/perso bagages compris car c est + pratik etant donné quon etait 8 en taxis cela aurait été trop cher !!! Par contre au retour sur marrakech on a pris un mini bus avec un chauffeur super sympa(Rachid) qui a mis 2h30 pour arriver à laéroport pour un total de 1200 dir. Je ne vous parle pas de toutes les rencontres avec ces gens merveilleux, ouverts...à qui je fais dailleurs une dedicace😛. Flâner dans les médinas, les ruelles ombragées, se laisser guider par le flot est aussi une tres belle et interessante facon de visietr un pays !!! question nourriture on mange bien pour 3-4 dir dans les 2 villes meme si essaouira est un chouia + chere!
Voilà mes premieres infos car la je viens de rentrer et apres tous ces souvenirs jai un peu tout qui se brouillent ds ma tête et je dois surement oublier des choses!!! n hésiteez pas a me demander des precisions!!!!! voila, maintenant wapiti le prochain c est le Pérou WAOU !!!
a bientot Be'slama
mymy
"Voyager ajoute à sa vie"-proverbe berbère
"Voyager ajoute à sa vie"-proverbe berbère
salut philou
en une journée on peut faire un tour sympa d essaouira, tinquiete pas !😉 c est une petite ville ou tout est concentré. Tu peux commencer par faire un tour du port et longer la plage et puis te balader dans les ruelles pour voir les boutiques et souks ensuite tu peux finir avec une petite promenade sur les hauteurs dessaouira ou tu y longeras les canons sous un beau soleil !!!!
bon sejour et profite bien car ça vaut le detour
en une journée on peut faire un tour sympa d essaouira, tinquiete pas !😉 c est une petite ville ou tout est concentré. Tu peux commencer par faire un tour du port et longer la plage et puis te balader dans les ruelles pour voir les boutiques et souks ensuite tu peux finir avec une petite promenade sur les hauteurs dessaouira ou tu y longeras les canons sous un beau soleil !!!!
bon sejour et profite bien car ça vaut le detour
mymy
"Voyager ajoute à sa vie"-proverbe berbère
"Voyager ajoute à sa vie"-proverbe berbère
Le tarif des taxis affichés sont des tarifs par personne ou par taxi?
Merci d 'avance.
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We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Bonjour,
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!
Merci aux membres de voyageforum qui nous ont fait part de leurs expériences! Nous avons passé 3 jours formidables à "La Kasbah la Palmeraie" à Skoura. Arrivant de Marrakech (superbe route en décrochant après le col de Tichka via Telouet, Ait-Benhaddou), le séjour à la Palmeraie n'a été que du bonheur: accueil chaleureux de Mohammed et Ghizlane, délicieux petits déjeuners sur la terrasse dominant la palmeraie, (pain cuit au four en terre, crêpes au miel préparées par Ghizlane), repas du soir non moins délicieux et copieux, en famille, autour d'un bon feu. Nous nous sentions comme "chez soi" et avons beaucoup appris sur le mode de vie de la région. Les balades proposées étaient toujours intéressantes et hors des circuits touristiques de masse. De là, le vallée et les Gorges du Dades , la vallée des Amandiers (superbe!), la palmeraie. Il y a des Kasbahs magnifiques dans la région dont celle de nos hôtes. Une autre façon de "visiter" le Maroc!