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Hello Franck!
Merci pour tes réponses étoffées et rapides!
Voici on nous en sommes:
- Wako Wako nous propose un Landrover équipé (dont 2 tentes sur le toit pour 180 euros par jour) et Landcruiser ou Hi-Lux (pas pareil du tout mais ils ne spécifient pas...) pour 170 Euros.
En Namibie on a eu un hi-lux pour 65 Euros équipé, bon il avait 150 000 km, mais tout s'est bien passé, on a fait le Kaokoland sans ennuis.
Bref, tout ça pour dire que pour 170 Euros, j'espère que leurs véhicules sont en top conditions. Je vais quand même essayer de voir la concurrence.
- Pour l'instant, les billets de Zürich à Dar, avec la compagnie Swiss, sont à environ 1150 Euros. Je viens de regarder pour Nairobi, et c'est environ 950 Euros.
D'où mon interrogation: n'est-il pas plus économique de visiter la Tanzanie en partant de Nairobi puis en descendant vers le sud?
Parce qu'après avoir regardé les distances, faire Dar-Ruaha puis remonter au nord sur Serengeti et retour sur Dar, il me semble que ça fait beaucoup beaucoup de kilomètres.
Qu'as-tu choisi toi, tu atterris à Dar ou au Kenya?
En fait, si on atterrit à Dar, je pense que nous nous contenterons de visiter le sud, et donc de manquer le Serengeti et ses alentours. 🏴☠️
Sinon, j'ai lu dans le guide du routard, édition 2010, qu'il n'est pas permis de rentrer dans les parc en self-drive. J'ai été déçu par ce qui m'a semblé être ni plus ni moins un mensonge. Je trouve que ça discrédite l'édition "routard"! Mais d'un autre côté, plus il y a de doutes, moins il y a de touristes en self-drive... et donc plus de tranquillité!😛
Concernant le prix du pétrole, j'ai des sources qui me disent 0.9 euro et 1.2 euro. As-tu des données fiables?
Puis pour la suite, comment as-tu procédé pour les logements. Faut-il faire le même tralala qu'au Botswana en réservant 2 ans à l'avance? As-tu déjà réservé les campings dans les parcs de Tanzanie?
Voilà, je crois que ça fait déjà pas mal de questions en une seule fois, alors merci d'avance pour le temps que tu consacreras!
Et je vais me faire un plaisir (merci Marc) de produire ici ma réponse fournie en MP... 😏
Hello,
Je rappelle, que je suis en pleine préparation et que je ne suis pas encore allé en Tanzanie. J y serai du 20 Juillet au 15 Aout... si dieu veut ... !
Landcruiser ou Hi-Lux (pas pareil du tout mais ils ne spécifient pas...)
Est ce une question ?
S ils te proposent un Toy 105 ou un 76 (super costaud), c'est effectivement différent d un Hilux.
Un Prado ou 95 ou 120 est entre les deux.
Mais dans tous les cas, comme tu seras prudent tu ne rouleras pas trop vite et ça ira.
Perso je préfère un Toyota à un LandRover qui passe partout (ce n'est pas le but) mais qui est moins costaud qu'un Toy qui doit nous ramener à bon port.
pour 170 Euros par jour.
mon prix : Hilux /Prado with roof tent 150 euros par jour
Voici de quoi négocier un peu, mais je suppose que les 20 euros d'écart seront justifiés par la deuxième tente.
Ils me prennent aussi 300 dollars pour livre/reprendre le 4x4 à Dar Es Salaam
En Namibie on a eu un hi-lux pour 65 Euros équippé
Super prix. Qui est ce loueur super discount ?
Les prix habituels sont plutôt le double non ?
j'espère que leurs véhicules sont en top conditions
Il m 'a promis des 4x4 inférieur à 60 000 kms, et m a même dit qu ils recevaient des véhicules neufs pour ses clients de Juillet - Aout... j invoque les dieux du 4x4 pour que ça se confirme dans les faits... 😉
Je vais quand même essayer de voir la concurrence.
Je serais content de savoir quelles alternatives peuvent exister.
plus économique de visiter la Tanzanie en partant de Nairobi ?
Je ne sais rien, sauf que c'est pas si évident de passer soit même la frontière Tanzanienne avec un véhicule Kényan.
Faire Dar-Ruaha puis remonter au nord sur Serengeti et retour sur Dar, il me semble que ça fait beaucoup beaucoup de kilomètres.
Effectivement, et comme je vais boucler avec les parcs du sud, ça me fera environ 3700 kms, soit 180 km par jour en moyenne.
C'est moins que ma moyenne en Namibie et au Botswana où je ne roulais pratiquement que le matin... On verra bien.
Qu'as-tu choisi toi, tu atterris à Dar ou au Kenya?
En fait j'ai cherché et pris mon billet d'avion avant d'avoir trouvé le 4x4 avec tente que j'espèrais trouver à Dar. Donc j' atterris à Dar. C'était aussi pour être proche de Mafia Island. En fait je ne voulais pas passer la frontière (on sait ce que c'est en Afrique...). Je n'ai pas regardé les prix mais le mieux aurait été d'aterrir à Kli Air Port - Arusha.
En fait, si on atterrit à Dar, je pense que nous nous contenterons de visiter le sud, et donc de manquer le Serengeti et ses alentours.
Perso je rêvais du Ngorongoro depuis des années. Mais je pense que je vais le regretter vu la densité de touristes (une semaine de touristes à Ngoro = 1 an à Selous...🏴☠️) Nous notre objectif est de voir la tanzanie pour savoir-choisir où on retournera.
il n'est pas permis de rentrer dans les parc en self-drive.
Effectivement on trouve beaucoup ce genre d informations. Peut être un de ces jours (j espère pas cette année), il ne sera plus possible de rentrer sans guide.
En attendant deux personnes, dont une ayant vécu en Tanz pendant 8 ans, m a certifié que l on pouvait rentrer sans guide.
Je ferai une prière en arrivant à Serengeti Nord - Klein Gate. Au pire du pire, on sautera le serengeti pour rejoindre plus vite le sud.
Mais d'un autre côté, plus il y a de doutes, moins il y a de touristes en self-drive... et donc plus de TO ??? 😕🏴☠️
Concernant le prix du pétrole, j'ai des sources qui me disent 0.9 euro et 1.2 euro. As-tu des données fiables?
Je n ai pas encore regardé. Je roule au Gas Oil, budget 500 euros max +/- 15% selon les prix.
Faut-il faire le même tralala qu'au Botswana en réservant 2 ans à l'avance? As-tu déjà réservé les campings dans les parcs de Tanzanie?
Dans les parcs :
- public camp sites (en général sans Ablution) : attribué à l'arrivée à la Gate. Environ 30 $ pppn
- Special Campsites. privés, + chers. à réserver longtemps à l'avance, en principe en passant par un TO.
- Campsite en dehors des parcs, proche des Gates. Env. 10$pppn, avec ablution block.
Salut Marc
N'hésite pas à abreuver ce post d infos que tu pourras glaner aussi lors de tes préparatifs...
Bonne préparation
A suivre...
Franck
Tanzanie-2010
Kawaza Village
Botswana : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2037270
pour ton information, je viens d'aller voir sur le site de jetairfly et ai vu des billets d'avion, évidemment pas zurich-dar mais bruxelles-zanzibar.
ne connaissant pas tes dates, j'ai examiné l'aller le 27.06 : 435 EUR et le retour le 05.07 : 345 EUR, soit 780 au total.
Après plusieurs mois de mutisme, causé par l'abandon du projet voyage en Tanzanie été 2010, vu qu'en se préparant au mois de mai pour juillet, les prix avaient méchamment enflés, donc grosse désillusion... enfin bref,
voilà le projet qui refait surface pour juillet 2011, et cette fois-ci, on est plus que dans les délais...
Première chose: Comment s'est passé ton voyage cet été? La voiture de Wako Wako? (en parlant de Wako Wako, je n'arrive plus à retrouver leur site web!
As-tu pu faire les parcs que tu avais planifié, quelles sont tes impressions?
Je suis en tractation avec 4x4-kenya.com pour leur loué depuis Dar un véhicule. Ils me disent que le 4x4 est immatriculé plaque kényane. Et apparemment, la taxe d'entrée des parcs est de 40$ si la voiture fait moins de 2000kgs, et 140$!!! si plus de 2000kgs! Bref, as-tu été confronté à ce problème?
Je comprends que tu veux faire voyage sans guide ?
C'est tout à fait possible mais dans le cas contraire ça changerait mes réponses évidemment.
La voiture de Wako Wako?
NE PASSE SURTOUT PAS par eux. je n ose même pas te donner l'orthographe exacte (wagowago ou safariskenya.com) 🤪. évite le comme la peste.
Sans me prévenir par avance, et en me jurant qu il ne le ferait pas, il a encaissé ma caution de 2500 euros !!! et ne l'a toujours pas rendue... !
Il y a d'autres loueurs de 4x4 avec tente. Envoie moi un MP avec ton email, je t'enverrai les liens.
As-tu pu faire les parcs que tu avais planifié, quelles sont tes impressions?
Oui sans problème. Les parcs se font très bien sans guide contrairement à ce que tu pourras lire un peu partout.
J ai fait les parcs du Nord et Ruaha et Selous au Sud.
Serengeti c'est la quasi certitude voir des léopards, guépard...
Les parcs du sud, les félins sont plus discrets mais présents et les parcs sont beaucoup moins fréquentés et très très beaux.
la taxe d'entrée des parcs est de 40$ si la voiture fait moins de 2000kgs
Oui c'est vrai. Un véhicule tanzanien paye 10000 TSH, un véhicule étranger paye 40$. Comme ils sont gentils, ils considèrent que le 4x4 fait moins de 2 tonnes. Heureusement. Les gros tarifs concernent les "bus".
Les tarifs sont les mêmes partout sauf Selous (+35$) et Ngoro (+200$).
Bientôt plus d'infos dans un carnet presque terminé.
A+
n'hésite pas.
Franck
Tanzanie-2010
Kawaza Village
Botswana : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2037270
Nous serions plutôt intéressés par ne visiter que les parcs du sud. L'idée serait de passer plus de jour dans Ruaha et dans Selous, et ainsi épargner les kilomètres de trajet entre le nord et le sud.
Qu'en penses-tu, maintenant que tu as fait le tout, serait-ce trop dommage de tirer un trait sur le nord? En tout cas, ce que tu dit ne fait que confirmer ce que j'ai entendu, Ruaha, c'est beau!
Est-ce qu'il y a une différence de prix significative entre le nord et le sud?
Et finalement, tu m'avais dit en mai qu'il était compliqué de traverser la frontière en self-drive? Est-ce que tu as eu des news?
J'ai trouvé un locateur qui a l'air super sérieux vers Nairobi, recommandé par des allemands sur un forum... ce sont des passionnés honnêtes apparement: http://arid-adventures.com
Le nord m'attirait pour deux raisons :
- avoir la "certitude" de voir des félins et surtout léopard et guépard que nous n'avions pas vu au Botswana.
--> Si tu n'as pas cette frustration, tu peux prendre le "risque" de ne pas en voir à Ruaha ou à Selous, quoi que... mais bon...
- Je rêvais depuis longtemps de voir Ngorongoro.
--> J'avoue que même si nous y avons vu des lions en chasse, cela ne nous a pas laissé un souvenir super émouvant.. Comme tous les fantasmes, une fois assouvis on n'en a plus besoin... !🙂
Donc voilà. Si tu es plus raisonnable et plus sage que moi, si tu sais faire l'impasse sur tes (mes) "caprices", tu pourras te "contenter" du sud, largement.
D'autant plus que rejoindre le sud depuis le nord est un fatigant à cause des (mauvaises) pistes.
Si tu viens de Nairobi, la question est différente. Si tu as le temps tu peux (dois) faire Natron, KleinGate, Lobo, Seronera (léopards), ngorongoro (facultatif), puis route vers le sud : Kondoa, Iringa...
Le sud est beaucoup moins fréquenté. Et les parcs sont vraiment beaux (même s il n y avait pas de bêbêtes).
Ruaha c'est beau, mais ne néglige pas Selous (image ci dessous). C'est vraiment magnifique aussi et très giboyeux.
Apparemment, il est assez facile de traverser la frontière Kényane, demande à MIMI67
A suivre
Franck
Tanzanie-2010
Kawaza Village
Botswana : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2037270
Bon alors, tu laisses le suspens planer, tu as vu des félins dans le sud?
En fait ce qui m'intéresse le plus c'est l'observation des animaux en général (certes l'espoir de tomber sur une scène de festin de guépards par exemple est un but en soi), mais dans un cadre tranquille, sans trop de monde. Voir un groupe de lion et être la 100ème voiture qui passe devant eux ne m'attire plus tellement, on peut faire ça dans les zoos-safaris en Europe non?
Pour ma part, on avait croisé une femelle guépard et ses deux petits au bord d'une route bétonée dans la région du Tuli block au Botswana. Super coup de chance, on avait halluciné.
Ce qui m'attire également, c'est de pouvoir bivouaquer dans un camping, sans trop de monde, autour d'un feu et laisser les éléphants, les hyènes et n'importe quel hôte sauvage s'approcher. Je crois que ce sont les plus beaux souvenir que je garde du Botswana, être debout devant un éléphant à 5 mètres de nous, un calao qui se pose sur notre table etc...
donc quelle région penses-tu qui correspond le plus à cette description?
donc quelle région penses-tu qui correspond le plus à cette description?
Bah voyons...
Ne vois aucune véhémence dans mes propos ci-dessous, juste de la malice et de la provoc', comme je sais si bien le faire.
Et aussi me répondre à moi même il y a un an. Parce que cette question je me la suis posée pendant de longs mois avant de me décider, et tu sais ce que j'ai décidé à la fin.
Aller je me lâche... 😎
D'abord dans une première réponse je t'avais indiqué que "une semaine de touristes à Ngoro = 1 an à Selous...🏴☠️)". ça t'aide pas à choisir ?
Parce que tu crois quand même pas que je vais te garantir que tu vas voir un festin de Léo ici ou là ? Tu crois pas que je vais te certifier que tu seras "assez" tranquille dans tel ou tel parc ? Et pourquoi pas te donner les coordonnées GPS et l'heure exacte de ce spectacle, et te les donner juste à toi... ? 😏.
Bah non Marc, je ne vais pas répondre à ta question.
Parce que si je pouvais te garantir un tel résultat, je jouerais au loto...
Bon allez...
Je veux bien être un peu constructif 😉, mais à une double condition :
- Tu réponds à deux trois questions ci-dessous
- et tu me garantis par écrit que tu ne m'en voudras pas si tu n'atteins pas tes objectifs... 😛😏
Est ce que vous serez à plusieurs 4x4 ?
Quelle proportion de campings / Hotels ?
Alors dis moi sous forme de note de 1 à 10, quel est l'importance de tes critères.
- Tu aimes rouler sur les pistes
- Tu aimes les pistes difficiles
- Tes cinq animaux préférés
- tu veux voir plus de 20 lions
- tu veux voir des léopards
- tu veux voir des guépards
- tu veux dormir dans des campings avec moins de 10 campeurs
- tu veux voir des rhinocéros
- Tu veux voir des animaux la nuit autour de ta tente
- Tu veux faire des drive avec guide
- tu aimes les japonais, les italiens...?
Tu as droit à un seul jocker.
Merci de m'aider à t'aider 😛
A+
Fc
Tanzanie-2010
Kawaza Village
Botswana : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2037270
🙂 vu qu'on vit en suisse (on = ma femme et le couple d'amis qui vont très certainement nous accompagner), je devrais bien trouver une assurance qui nous rembourse l'intégralité du voyage si je reviens de Tanzanie sans avoir vu les big 5!!!! Quoiqu'il en soit, ce ne sera alors pas toi mon assureur! 😉
Alors don't worry, je ne te tiendrai pas responsable du potentiel échec ou succès du voyage.
Alors voici quelques infos... Nous serons certainement 4 dans 1 4x4. En étant persuasif, peut-être que nous serons 6 avec 2 4x4 (ça serait le top!), mais on en est pas là.
Nous serons le 80% du temps en camping, le lodge sera plus une cerise sur le landrover.
Tu as eu une bonne idée avec ce top ten. Ca donnera des infos plus détaillées et ça m'aidera aussi à fixer mes priorités. Par contre je me suis permis de le modifié un peu à ma sauce!
Mes 5 animaux préférés sont: tous les félins (n'importe lequel), le lycaon, la hyène, l'éléphant et le buffle.
1) avoir moins de 10 campeurs.
2) voir des animaux autour de la tente la nuit
3) j'aime rouler et j'aime les pistes difficiles (bon pas mortelles non plus!)
4) voir des félins (la qualité plus que la quantité, pas besoin de les voir tous!)
5) la quantité de lions et d'animaux en général
6) le prix des parcs, campings et lodges
7) voir des rhinos
8) prendre un guide avec nous
9) voir des japonais et italiens
C'est marrant parce qu'en lisant ces critères, je me dis que ça correspond à Moremi, Khaudum et Savuti (tout y est non?)
Encore une fois, il n y a pas de verdict, pas de réponse toute faite, pas de science exacte.
Mais ton classement donne une bonne idée de tes aspirations, et la comparaison avec Moremi est significative.
Si tu as le temps, et si tu atterris à Nairobi, tu peux assurer les Léos en passant par Mara (et Serengeti).
Pour mixer la "solitude" et les léo, tu peux faire Nairobi, Loliondo à droite, natron, Klein gate, Seronera, ngoro (optionnel), Tarangire, puis direction le sud.
Si non tu peux aller directement à Ruaha - Mukomi - Selous. Ruaha et Selous sont les seuls parcs où j'ai ressenti les mêmes émotions qu'à Moremi, c-à-d celles que tu recherches : être DANS le bush au milieu des bestioles, beaux paysages, proximité des animaux.
A Ruaha les lions rodaient la nuit autour de la Banda ainsi que les éléphants et les impalas, idem à Selous éléphants dans le camping. A Serengeti, ça ne risque pas d'arriver, il y a trop de bruit, mais il y a que là que nous avons vu des Léos (voir photos, il est dans l'arbre)
Vue la chance que tu as eu à Moremi de voir des léos, je pense que tu verras des lions à Ruaha et Selous, surtout si tu y passe plusieurs jours.
De toutes façons, pour les pistes tu seras gaté. Moi qui adore conduire (ex pilote 4x4) à la fin des 3 semaines j en avais un peu marre, parce que les distances ne sont pas forcément longues (200 - 250 km/jour) mais durent longtemps, sans parler de ma p'tite femme qui était fatiguée.
Je pense que vu tes aspirations les parcs du sud sont incontournables, mais les félins sont moins nombreux et plus difficiles à voir.
Voilà Voilà
Combien de temps tu pars ?
Avec des enfants ?
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F
Tanzanie-2010
Kawaza Village
Botswana : https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2037270
Ce que tu dis ("à la fin j'en avais un peu raz le bol") me paraît être un point très important à prendre en compte dans la planification d'un voyage. Il me semble naturel qu'en roulant 7-8 heures chaque jour pendant 18 jours, on en ait un peu raz le bol à la fin... et surtout pour le/LA copilote!
Donc je pense qu'il vaut mieux chercher la qualité et se donner le temps de profiter des lieux où on se trouve. Et tant qu'à faire, si ce lieu peut être "authentique".
Les images que tu as mises sont assez représentatives de ce que je m'imaginais (ou plutôt craignais). 20 4x4 autour d'un léopard, sur une piste qui visiblement se ferait bien avec une voiture de sport rabaissée!!! (je caricacture quelque peu!)
On aurait 22 jours à disposition. Mais la-dedans, on aimerait bien inclure un peu de balnéaire. Donc 15 jours de 4x4 environ.
Pas de bambini par contre...
Pourrais-tu me transmettre le nom de locateurs honnêtes dont tu aurais connaissance, stp?
Et pour terminer, combien de jours as-tu passer à Selous et Ruaha?
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Hello everyone!
It's been a year since I've been longing for South Africa. Our first trip in August 2025 amazed us, and—rarely—it was a unanimous hit with our little family! We were touched to the core, and from the moment we got home, we couldn’t stop talking about going back. 😄
I’d like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who gave me advice on the itinerary for that first trip (Johannesburg loop: Blyde, Kruger, Eswatini, St. Lucia, Durban, Drakensberg)! Thanks to you, our trip went like a dream!
Since then, I haven’t stopped reading articles and discussions on VoyageForum to keep my head in South Africa a little longer!
So, we finally caved and just booked our tickets for January 2027 (from the 3rd to the 26th), with a plan to do a road trip from Cape Town to Johannesburg in about 3 weeks.
I’ve got a rough itinerary that seems great based on what I’ve read on various forums, but there are still some uncertain points, and that’s where I could use your advice.
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM
4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing
5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?)
8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...)
9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?)
11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!)
13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure)
16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...)
18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP
21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!)
22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now...
I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments...
Can’t wait to be back there again!
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hi everyone,
We’re revising our travel plans for January 2027. Originally, we were considering Uganda for about 14/15 days, but given the current health situation and the restrictions that might affect my partner, who’s American, we’ve decided to switch to Tanzania instead.
I’m used to traveling in South Africa and organizing my trips myself, but I get the impression that planning a safari in Tanzania is quite different.
I know self-drive isn’t really an option in Tanzania. So my main question is: can you organize your own itinerary and book lodges directly, then hire a local driver-guide? Or is it better to go through a local agency that handles the entire safari?
For the itinerary, which parks would you recommend for a first-time visit in January? Serengeti, Ngorongoro, Tarangire, Manyara, Ruaha, Arusha, Selous…
We’d also like to include Zanzibar to end the trip with a few days at the beach. Over 14/15 days, does that sound realistic or too ambitious?
Finally, for flights, is it better to arrive at Kilimanjaro (JRO) or Dar es Salaam (DAR) based on the itinerary we’re considering?
Thanks in advance for your feedback, especially on the best way to organize the safari and which parks to prioritize in January!
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
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Just returned from a three-week family trip to Kenya (with three kids aged 10, 12, and 15), and I wanted to share my experience. Forums were super helpful in planning this trip, especially if you want to get a bit off the beaten path.
First off, Kenya is an amazing destination with incredibly friendly and welcoming locals. It was easy to travel around because you can always find someone to give you directions or help you out.
For practical tips—though you’ve probably read this elsewhere—get a Safaricom SIM card when you arrive at the airport so you can pay via M-Pesa (you can top it up with a credit card using the Wise app) and chat with people on WhatsApp. It’ll make your life *so* much easier (booking trains, buses, park entries, etc.) and save you from carrying too much cash or hunting for ATMs.
Also, we went during the first three weeks of July, which wasn’t peak tourist season.
One thing to note: even if you’re using public transport and budget accommodations, Kenya can still be pricey because tourist attractions add up fast—often more expensive than in France. But honestly, it’s usually worth it!
We started our trip with a 5-day homestay. We were welcomed by a really lovely family in Loitokitok with a view of Kilimanjaro right from their garden entrance (just a heads-up: in July, it’s often shrouded in mist!). To find them, search for Greenfield Homestay in Loitokitok. It was a fantastic experience, especially with kids! On top of transfers, they organized several outings with locals: a hike to the Tanzanian border, a motorcycle ride on the foothills of Kilimanjaro, and a day safari in Amboseli. You can book with them eyes closed! For the safari, Anthony (who’s English-speaking) took us around—he’s from the area and knows the park like the back of his hand. Highly recommend him!
Anthony then drove us to Isiolo, a town in the north that’s just starting to open up to tourism. We wanted to see the Monday livestock market, where different ethnic groups gather to buy and sell goats, sheep, and cows (according to Lonely Planet). We were a bit disappointed and wouldn’t recommend it. We also visited Ngare Ndare Forest, which has a stunning waterfall, an interesting walk with an armed ranger (elephants are common), and a suspension bridge for admiring the canopy. Just make sure to let them know you’re coming at least three days in advance to guarantee a ranger will be available. We also did a second safari day in Samburu—it’s a great complement to Amboseli and totally worth it!
Next, we headed to Naivasha (still with Anthony). We found a place on Airbnb (Jasmine House) at Fischerman’s Camp, a campsite we really loved! You’ll spot hippos, monkeys, and beautiful birds there. We organized several activities: a boat ride on the lake to see birds, zebras, and giraffes; a bike safari in Hell’s Gate Park (the campsite is right by the entrance and rents bikes); and a hike to Crater Lake (departing by boat from the campsite), where you walk among zebras, giraffes, and different gazelles. Naivasha is way more touristy than Loitokitok or Isiolo, but there’s no shortage of things to do.
Finally, we spent our last week in Watamu on the coast. To get there, we took an overnight ENA Coach bus from Naivasha to Mombasa, booked via https://www.travler.africa/. It was comfortable and fast, but you’ll need to call the driver to arrange a pickup spot—the restaurant staff at the campsite helped us out with that! Then we took an Uber to Watamu since we had a lot of luggage (we skipped the matatu).
Watamu is nicknamed "Little Italy" because of all the Italian tourists. When we were there (third week of July), it wasn’t peak season yet, so the beaches weren’t cleaned. But we loved the laid-back vibe and how easy it was to get around. We *highly* recommend the marine turtle rescue center—it’s fascinating (especially with kids) and supports a great cause! We were a bit disappointed by the marine park, though—maybe because of the season? There weren’t many fish, and jellyfish kinda ruined the snorkeling. The mangrove tour is also a must-do.
For the trip back to Nairobi, we took the express train from Mombasa. We booked our tickets when we first arrived in Kenya (since payment is only via M-Pesa). The train is reliable and comfortable, and we saw lots of elephants along the way. Just a heads-up: there are *a lot* of security checks, and we almost weren’t allowed to board with our Opinel knife…
If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
All in all, we had an amazing trip—so much variety, great encounters, and the magic of safaris!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes.
I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks).
Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate.
Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross.
Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head.
Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes:
Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek?
At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge?
There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls.
I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions.
I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali.
Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha.
I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4.
Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
😊🦁
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB
D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon
D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger
D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area
D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route)
D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this:
- Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective.
First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...).
That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on.
The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start...
During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.)
The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance.
Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page).
Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water),
– Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places,
– Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly,
– One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
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Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored:
– services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water),
– hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments,
– visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly,
– one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment.
To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone.
Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera
Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo
Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera
Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?)
Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 4: Full day in Tarangire
Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO
Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome...
Thanks
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works.
I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!!
I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh…
Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car??
If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali?
Thanks so much for your help…
Best regards
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be:
- Hwange
- Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona)
- Mana Pools
- Harare
- Gonarezhou
- Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?