Pneus sur un camping-car?
by Tiznit
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bjr;Peut-on monter sur c/car FIAT DUCATO 2, 8l tdi des pneus 215X70XR15 autres que la marque Michelin?quelle marque serait le mieux approprié en tenant compte du prix ???merçi
bonjour,
tu n'as peut être pas raison de refuser des Michelin. Depuis plusieurs années Michelin a developpé des pneus spéciaux camping-car, ce sont des XC Camping. A monter obligatoirement avec des valves métalliques, gonflés à 5 kgs, ils conviennent particulièrement bien à nos véhicules souvent en dépassement du PTAC. Je les utilise depuis une dizaine d'années et en suis très satisfait. Seul défaut, ils coûtent environ 200 euros pièce. Bonne route, en...Michelin Pépé.
tu n'as peut être pas raison de refuser des Michelin. Depuis plusieurs années Michelin a developpé des pneus spéciaux camping-car, ce sont des XC Camping. A monter obligatoirement avec des valves métalliques, gonflés à 5 kgs, ils conviennent particulièrement bien à nos véhicules souvent en dépassement du PTAC. Je les utilise depuis une dizaine d'années et en suis très satisfait. Seul défaut, ils coûtent environ 200 euros pièce. Bonne route, en...Michelin Pépé.
si tu ne fais pas ce que tu aimes, aime ce que tu fais.
Merçi pour ta réponse...moi aussi j'utilise des "Michelin"depuis plusieurs années mais aux dires de certains collègues, camping-caristes, d'autres marques moins chères, qu'ils ont montés, font le meme usage, et, autant de km.Je crois que chez Michelin, on paye surtout la marque !!!!cordialement.
Il n'y a pas plus têtu que celui qui ne veut pas lire et comprendre ce qui est écrit:
Il n'est pas question de prix ni de nombre de KM parcourrus, mais De Ta sécurité et celle de ta famille.
Les Michelin spécial camping-car sont vraiment renforcés et bien étudiés pour les camping-car ce qui n'est pas encore le cas des autres marques.
Cordialement
JPG
Bonjour,
Nous sommes très pointilleux en ce qui concerne notre sécurité avec notre camping-car tout comme avec nos voitures. Choisir de bons pneus sécuritaires est notre premier souci.
Lorsque nous avons dû chausser notre camping-car, nous avons fouillé internet, cherchant des études sur les pneus .
À la lumière de ces études, nous avons finalement opté pour des Continental Vanco qui sont faits pour supporter 4, 5 tonnes.
Les études démontrent qu'ils ont une meilleure capacité de freinage tant sur le sec et en particulier sur une chaussée mouillée.
Chantal
Nous sommes très pointilleux en ce qui concerne notre sécurité avec notre camping-car tout comme avec nos voitures. Choisir de bons pneus sécuritaires est notre premier souci.
Lorsque nous avons dû chausser notre camping-car, nous avons fouillé internet, cherchant des études sur les pneus .
À la lumière de ces études, nous avons finalement opté pour des Continental Vanco qui sont faits pour supporter 4, 5 tonnes.
Les études démontrent qu'ils ont une meilleure capacité de freinage tant sur le sec et en particulier sur une chaussée mouillée.
Chantal
Bonjour Séverine,
C'est une exelente info que vous nous donnez là, mais je ne connais pas cette marque en France... Cordialement
C'est une exelente info que vous nous donnez là, mais je ne connais pas cette marque en France... Cordialement
JPG
Bonjour
C'est une marque que l'on trouve facilement, du moins dans le sud de la France. Notre camping-car Pilote a son point d'attache en France. C'est dommage, nous n'avons plus les résultats des études sur les pneus, mais notre recherche s'est faite exclusivement sur internet.
Chantal
C'est une marque que l'on trouve facilement, du moins dans le sud de la France. Notre camping-car Pilote a son point d'attache en France. C'est dommage, nous n'avons plus les résultats des études sur les pneus, mais notre recherche s'est faite exclusivement sur internet.
Chantal
Il n'y a pas que Michelin qui fabrique des pneus renforcés "camping": toutes les grandes marques en font je pense et certaines sont effectivement moins chères. L'important est qu'ils soient indiqués "camping" et qu'ils puissent être gonflés à 5, 5 Kg. J'ai mis dans le passé des Uniroyal et j'en ai été content. Surtout ne pas prendre des pneus "rechappés" qui existent aussi car ils ne tiennent pas la distance.
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Bonjour,
Nous sommes très pointilleux en ce qui concerne notre sécurité avec notre camping-car tout comme avec nos voitures. Choisir de bons pneus sécuritaires est notre premier souci.
Lorsque nous avons dû chausser notre camping-car, nous avons fouillé internet, cherchant des études sur les pneus .
À la lumière de ces études, nous avons finalement opté pour des Continental Vanco qui sont faits pour supporter 4, 5 tonnes.
Les études démontrent qu'ils ont une meilleure capacité de freinage tant sur le sec et en particulier sur une chaussée mouillée.
Chantal
Le pneu Vanco 8 de Continental, destiné aux camionnettes et aux SUV, a été spécialement conçu pour la conduite sur autoroute. Développant d’excellentes performances sur route sèche comme sur chaussée humide, ce pneu n’est pas destiné à être utilisé lorsque les températures avoisinent zéro degré. Ses nervures d’épaulement uniques offrent une protection supplémentaire lors des trajets sur des routes accidentées et déformées. Ses sculptures élargies créent une aire de contact plus grande qui augmente la traction et la stabilité du véhicule. Ses profondes rainures dotées de lamelles ondulantes lui confèrent une bonne adhérence et un parfait équilibre. Pour des performances sportives, ce pneu garantit une précision parfaire de la direction. S’agissant de la stabilité dans les courbes, ce pneu est très performant et permet au conducteur de garder un contrôle total de son véhicule. Ce pneu Continental est doté d’une bonne traction, offre un confort amélioré, génère moins de bruit et possède des flancs renforcés.
Nous sommes très pointilleux en ce qui concerne notre sécurité avec notre camping-car tout comme avec nos voitures. Choisir de bons pneus sécuritaires est notre premier souci.
Lorsque nous avons dû chausser notre camping-car, nous avons fouillé internet, cherchant des études sur les pneus .
À la lumière de ces études, nous avons finalement opté pour des Continental Vanco qui sont faits pour supporter 4, 5 tonnes.
Les études démontrent qu'ils ont une meilleure capacité de freinage tant sur le sec et en particulier sur une chaussée mouillée.
Chantal
Le pneu Vanco 8 de Continental, destiné aux camionnettes et aux SUV, a été spécialement conçu pour la conduite sur autoroute. Développant d’excellentes performances sur route sèche comme sur chaussée humide, ce pneu n’est pas destiné à être utilisé lorsque les températures avoisinent zéro degré. Ses nervures d’épaulement uniques offrent une protection supplémentaire lors des trajets sur des routes accidentées et déformées. Ses sculptures élargies créent une aire de contact plus grande qui augmente la traction et la stabilité du véhicule. Ses profondes rainures dotées de lamelles ondulantes lui confèrent une bonne adhérence et un parfait équilibre. Pour des performances sportives, ce pneu garantit une précision parfaire de la direction. S’agissant de la stabilité dans les courbes, ce pneu est très performant et permet au conducteur de garder un contrôle total de son véhicule. Ce pneu Continental est doté d’une bonne traction, offre un confort amélioré, génère moins de bruit et possède des flancs renforcés.
Toute peine mérite Salers
Suite à changement train de pneus car le modèle n'existe plus, nous avons un pneu neuf (roue de secours jamais servi) Michelin XC Camping 215-75-R16C à céder à un camping-cariste qui serait dans le même cas et aurait un seul pneu neuf.
mon camping car burstner m'a été livré avec une monte en Continental vanco Camper
donc il semblerait que ce produit tend à se généraliser
question qualité : je n'ai pas un grand recul pour l'instant
tenue de route sur sols très différents : piste, route défoncée (voyage en Ukraine) autoroutes, secs ou humides rien de particulier
a plus
a plus
GIL34
Nous sommes sur région parisienne et Touraine, mais nous déplaçons régulièrement... en camping-car 😉 ! Appelez-nous 0607268603 ce sera plus facile d'en discuter.
D'après mes connaissanse en avoir parlé avec des monteurs de pneus dans une maison spécialisée que je ne citerais pas, il y a 2 grand fabriquants de pneus, Michelin qui un peu bruyant, cher à cause de la marque et Continental, moins cher dans la même qualitée, moins bruyant.
Beaucoup de gens mette Michelin, bicause = Made in France.
Je n'ai fait que répéter.
Jo
Désolé, pneu vendu. 😕
Désolé, pneu vendu 😕
Nous sommes équipés de Michelin spécial camping car, mais nous allons avoir besoin de les changer et en visitant une conssession à Bourges cette semaine nous avons constaté que les véhicules neufs étaient équipés de pneus Continental (qu'il s'agisse de porteur Fiat ou Ford) aussi nous nous posons la question du choix pour le renouvellement.
flobob
Bonjour,
Chacun met la marque qu'il veut, l'essentiel c'est que ce soit des pneus spéciaux camping-car que l'on peut gonfler à 5, 5 bars ou 80 PSI. Bien entendu cela est pour les porteurs traction (Master, Ducato, Jumper, Transit), mais pas pour les propulsions (Sprinter, Mascot, Transit propulsion, ...) A+
Brigitte
Chacun met la marque qu'il veut, l'essentiel c'est que ce soit des pneus spéciaux camping-car que l'on peut gonfler à 5, 5 bars ou 80 PSI. Bien entendu cela est pour les porteurs traction (Master, Ducato, Jumper, Transit), mais pas pour les propulsions (Sprinter, Mascot, Transit propulsion, ...) A+
Brigitte
Je ne réponds pas aux goujats et autres vantards.
Bonjour,
Je serais très interressé par votre pneu, car j'en ai 1 (le même en roue de secours) voici mon N° de tél 03 84 25 37 09 Fabrice
Je serais très interressé par votre pneu, car j'en ai 1 (le même en roue de secours) voici mon N° de tél 03 84 25 37 09 Fabrice
Suite à changement train de pneus car le modèle n'existe plus, nous avons un pneu neuf (roue de secours jamais servi) Michelin XC Camping 215-75-R16C à céder à un camping-cariste qui serait dans le même cas et aurait un seul pneu neuf.
je suis a la recherche de ce pneus 215/75r16 c michelin pour mon camping car ci cela correspond
au pneu que vous possède veuillez me faire part du prix et de la region ou vous vous trouvez merci
je suis a la recherche de ce pneus 215/75r16 c michelin pour mon camping car ci cela correspond
au pneu que vous possède veuillez me faire part du prix et de la region ou vous vous trouvez merci
j'ai bien recu votre message si la roue est toujour a vendre veuillez me tel au 0672347128 merci
je serai intéressé part la vente de votre pneu camping car de marque michelin en 215/75r16 si vous ne l'avez pas encore vendu veuillez indiquer la région ou vous vous trouver ainsi que le prix merci d'avance (si possible me faire parvenir une photo
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We’re thinking of:
- Peneda-Gerês National Park - the Douro Valley - Porto
We love nature, hiking, and culture (and also good food and wine).😉
Do you have an itinerary to suggest?
Thanks in advance for your replies
We’re traveling in our camper van from Haute-Savoie.
We’ve got 2 weeks in April and want to explore northern Portugal.
We’re thinking of:
- Peneda-Gerês National Park - the Douro Valley - Porto
We love nature, hiking, and culture (and also good food and wine).😉
Do you have an itinerary to suggest?
Thanks in advance for your replies
Hi there,
We're planning a full week in Iceland in April. Given the short timeframe to prepare, I’m asking for some help on the forum.
We’re considering renting a camper van to be more independent with our travel. - Is this really a good idea at this time of year due to weather conditions (cold nights, poor road conditions, etc.)? - Can we just "park" anywhere for the night to sleep, or do we absolutely have to go to a campsite? What are the approximate rates for a van with 2 people? Do we need to book in advance? - If this mode of transport is recommended, do you have any good places to rent one?
Iceland is still a big island with lots of points of interest, so I think it’ll be tough to see everything in 8 days. - Are there parts of the island we should prioritize in April? We like hiking (nothing too long—6 or 7 hours is out of the question) and unique landscapes. - Are some sites inaccessible at this time of year? - Is Reykjavik worth stopping for a day or two?
Thanks in advance for your answers!
Jeff
We're planning a full week in Iceland in April. Given the short timeframe to prepare, I’m asking for some help on the forum.
We’re considering renting a camper van to be more independent with our travel. - Is this really a good idea at this time of year due to weather conditions (cold nights, poor road conditions, etc.)? - Can we just "park" anywhere for the night to sleep, or do we absolutely have to go to a campsite? What are the approximate rates for a van with 2 people? Do we need to book in advance? - If this mode of transport is recommended, do you have any good places to rent one?
Iceland is still a big island with lots of points of interest, so I think it’ll be tough to see everything in 8 days. - Are there parts of the island we should prioritize in April? We like hiking (nothing too long—6 or 7 hours is out of the question) and unique landscapes. - Are some sites inaccessible at this time of year? - Is Reykjavik worth stopping for a day or two?
Thanks in advance for your answers!
Jeff
Hi there,
Most of the time when I travel, I tow a trailer with an ATV for my local trips... I’d love to hear from anyone who’s traveled with a trailer and a second vehicle of any kind—especially the downsides of towing a trailer in Norway, aside from ferry costs.
Thanks!
Most of the time when I travel, I tow a trailer with an ATV for my local trips... I’d love to hear from anyone who’s traveled with a trailer and a second vehicle of any kind—especially the downsides of towing a trailer in Norway, aside from ferry costs.
Thanks!
hi,
I’m planning a trip to Albania in a camper van, most likely between May, June, and early July (2027), for about 60 days. On the way down, I’ll go as far as Bari (or Brindisi) and cross by ferry, and on the way back, I’ll go through the former Yugoslavia (or maybe take the return ferry?).
Has anyone been there recently? What are the roads like, the must-see spots, and any general tips you can share?
There’ll probably be two of us traveling together.
Thanks
Hi there,
During our last trip to Greece in 2021, we used Anek Lines' open deck offer, which allowed us to spend the night in our van on an open deck by the sea with access to the ferry's bars, restaurant, and showers (on the Ancona-Igoumenitsa route).
From my initial research, it seems this service no longer exists—can anyone confirm this?
Any alternatives?
Thanks
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to drive my camper van to southern Spain in autumn 2026. Ideally, I’d like to find a ferry leaving from France (Marseille or Toulon, doesn’t matter) that drops me off as far south in Spain as possible. I’ve done some research but haven’t had any luck.
Thanks for your tips!
Vanouk
We’d like to spend 15 days in August visiting Normandy by camper van, starting from Lyon.
Has anyone got an itinerary to suggest for exploring Normandy?
We’d like to go to Calvados to visit: Flower Coast, Honfleur, Cabourg, Deauville, D-Day landing beaches
Mont Saint-Michel
Alabaster Coast, Étretat cliffs, and maybe Rouen Fabienne
We’d like to go to Calvados to visit: Flower Coast, Honfleur, Cabourg, Deauville, D-Day landing beaches
Mont Saint-Michel
Alabaster Coast, Étretat cliffs, and maybe Rouen Fabienne
Hi there,
I have a bit of a crazy dream... I'd love to drop everything and hit the road with my wife and kids in a camper van.
I want to visit villages to learn, immerse ourselves in other cultures, and see different perspectives on the world. To teach my kids different values.
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a campervan road trip and would love some tips from those who know these countries: Slovenia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Montenegro, and Slovenia again. At the moment, nothing’s set in stone, but for example, is it better to visit Slovenia or Bosnia? My preferences lean toward landscapes (rivers, sea, lakes)—basically anywhere there’s water! :) Wild camping, cheap or even free spots, and a *very* tight budget—it’s the discovery, curiosity, and meeting locals that drive me. I’ll visit cities and sites only if access is easy (by bike, for example, or by train from an affordable campsite) and if visitors aren’t treated like cash cows. Just reasonable stuff, really. So, any advice is welcome—like swimming spots or easy hikes along coasts or rivers. I love caves and offbeat visits (salt mines in Poland, La Roque Saint-Christophe in France, etc.). Castles and old ruins? Not really my thing... Thanks for your help! Sylvia
I’m planning a campervan road trip and would love some tips from those who know these countries: Slovenia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Montenegro, and Slovenia again. At the moment, nothing’s set in stone, but for example, is it better to visit Slovenia or Bosnia? My preferences lean toward landscapes (rivers, sea, lakes)—basically anywhere there’s water! :) Wild camping, cheap or even free spots, and a *very* tight budget—it’s the discovery, curiosity, and meeting locals that drive me. I’ll visit cities and sites only if access is easy (by bike, for example, or by train from an affordable campsite) and if visitors aren’t treated like cash cows. Just reasonable stuff, really. So, any advice is welcome—like swimming spots or easy hikes along coasts or rivers. I love caves and offbeat visits (salt mines in Poland, La Roque Saint-Christophe in France, etc.). Castles and old ruins? Not really my thing... Thanks for your help! Sylvia
Hi, I’m planning to pick up a camper van in Dubai and drive it back to France... is this even possible? What’s the best route? What are the main challenges? Are there secure parking areas along the way? Is diesel fuel available for the whole trip? ... So many questions... Thanks for your help! See you soon!
I'm planning to drive to the UAE by road, going through Iraq. Has anyone done this and can give me some info? Specifically about the border crossings Turkey/Iraq and Iraq/Kuwait.
Hi there,
I’d love to hear your thoughts on a trip to New Zealand in a campervan. Is it a good idea to mix hotels and a car on the North Island and a campervan on the South Island? Or should I do the whole trip in a campervan—though visiting big cities seems trickier that way.
Other questions: which companies do you recommend, and what are the least tiring or most sensible routes? 😄
Thanks for sharing your experiences and ideas!
Hi there,
We’re planning to tour Scandinavia by camper van—Denmark, Sweden, Finland, and Norway (in that order)—for 5 weeks from late May to late June 2026.
I’ve done it before, but that was way back in 1980 😎 and by hitchhiking!
We’d love to hear from anyone who’s done this trip about the best routes, great tips, must-know advice, and what to do or avoid (ferries, campsites, etc.).
Thanks in advance!
hi there,
We’re heading to southern England this summer in our camper van, including a stop in London.
Does anyone have a good experience with a campsite near London that has easy access to public transport to get into the city center? Ideally, we’d like to leave the camper van at the campsite...
Thanks so much in advance for your help!
We’re heading to southern England this summer in our camper van, including a stop in London.
Does anyone have a good experience with a campsite near London that has easy access to public transport to get into the city center? Ideally, we’d like to leave the camper van at the campsite...
Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip with my camper van in autumn 2026 to head to southern Italy from Genoa by ferry.
Ideally, I’d like to leave from Genoa for southern Italy (like Messina) or another city in the boot.
I’ve done some research online but haven’t had any luck.
Can you help or give me some advice?
Thanks in advance!
Vanouk
