Tout d'abord, félicitations aux nombreux contributeurs ici présent... J'ai passé plusieurs heures fascinantes sur ce forum avant de me décider à écrire...
Nous allons partir entre 20 et 22 jours sur la côte ouest des USA, du 15 juillet au 6 août environ. Je sais que de nombreux post existent, je les ai lu, mais comme chacun a des attentes un peu différentes et que je débute vraiment dans l'organisation de voyage (c'est mon premier grand trip), j'aurais besoin de votre aide.
Deux lieux sont impératifs pour nous : San Francisco, et Yellowstone. A savoir que nous allons louer une voiture, et que nous ne sommes pas des randonneurs (mais nous n'avons pas peur de marcher pour voir quelque chose de magnifique non plus).
Si je résume ça donne :
J1-2-3-4 : San Francisco
J 17-18-19-20 : Yellowstone.
C'est sur le trou que j'ai un doute... :-)
Est-ce qu'on remonte par Yossemite, et on prend plus de temps là où on va ? Comme c'est un premier voyage, j'aimerais quand même beaucoup voir Bryce Canyon (magnifique il parait), Moab peut-être, etc... Mais là c'est plus compliqué de planifier... Peu expérimenté, je suis un peu perdu...
Je sais qu'on ne peut pas tout faire, et je ne veux pas rentrer frustré de ne pas avoir eu assez de temps dans tel ou tel endroit. Mais sans être un randonneur chevronné (ni un amoureux de la voiture uniquement), est-ce qu'un crochet par LV et 2-3 spots par là vous semblent jouable ? Si oui, lesquels, et dans quel ordre ?
J'ai vu ce post qui me semble intéressant, mais comme il connait déjà bien l'endroit peut-être qu'il peut se permettre de zaper plus de choses et que ce serait dommage pour nous : http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=4502122;search_string=yellowstone%20san%20francisco
Une fois que j'aurai votre avis sur la question je validerai définitivement les billets d'avion et me permettrai de vous soumette un itinéraire un peu plus précis :-)
En tous les cas merci d'avoir pris le temps de me lire, et merci encore plus à ceux qui auront la gentillesse de me répondre !
Alors, San Francisco et Yellowstone c'est le grand écart! En 20 jours ça va être très compliqué de caser les deux! A moins de multiplier les cols internes, ce qui ne serait pas vraiment un bon plan à mon avis....
Si en plus tu veux caser Moab et Bryce, là ça va devenir encore plus compliqué!
A mon avis, laisse tomber San Francisco et fais une boucle autour de Slt Lake City:
SLC - Moab (3 nuits mini) - Monument Valley - Grand Canyon - Page - Bryce - Capitol Reef - Dinosaur - Grand Teton - Yellowstone - SLC
Un itinéraire comprenant SF et le Yellowstone, c'est 21 jours minimum: sans Moab et avec un vol interne Las Vegas-SF. Le voici en sens inverse:
J1: arrivée SLC
J2: SLC - Jackson - Grand Teton
J3: Grand Teton
J4: Grand Teton - Yellowstone
J5 - J6 & J7: Yellowstone
J8: Yellowstone - Antelope Island (Grand Lac Salé)
J9: Antelope Island - Bryce
J10: Bryce
J11: Bryce - Zion
J12: Zion *
J13: Zion - Page
J14: Page - Monument Valley
J15: Monument Valley - Grand Canyon
J16: Grand Canyon
J17: Grand Canyon - Vegas
J18: Vol Vegas - SF
J19 & J20: SF
J21: départ SF
* J12 peut être zappé si on n'est pas randonneur, et on peut faire:
J11: Bryce - Page
J12: Page
J13: Page - Monument Valley
Avec Moab en plus ainsi que Death Valley + Yosemite (donc sans vol interne), c'est 27 jours minimum:
J1 : Arrivée à Las Vegas (ou Phoenix)
J2 : Las Vegas- Grand Canyon South Rim
J3 : Grand Canyon - Page
J4 : Page - Monument Valley
J5 : Goosenecks, Valley of Gods - Moab
J6 : Moab
J7 : Moab
J8 : Moab - Vernal
J9 : Vernal – Vernal (Dinosaur NM) (éventuellement zapper ce jour mais c'est dommage car le Dinosaur NM vaut la visite)
J10 : Vernal - Flaming Gorge - Jackson Hole
J11 : Jackson Hole-Grand Teton - Yellowstone
J12 : Yellowstone
J13 : Yellowstone
J14 : Yellowstone
J15 : Yellowstone - Salt Lake City
J16 : Salt Lake City - Capitol Reef - Torrey
J17 : Torrey - Bryce Canyon
J18 : Bryce Canyon - Zion
J19 : Zion – Valley of Fire - Las Vegas
J20 : Las Vegas
J21 : Las Vegas - Death Valley
J22 : Death Valley–Lee Vining
J23 : Lee Vining - Yosemite
J24 : Yosemite - SF
J25 : SF
J26 : SF
J27 : retour
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Comme Itat a dit, c'est un peu complique, mais a mon avis ce n'est pas impossible. Si tu n'as pas encore reserve les billets, tu peux faire un billet multi-destinations avec une arrivee (ou retour) a SF, et un retour (ou arrivee) de Salt Lake City. Et puis un aller simple entre SFO et SLC (regarde la ligne Southwest qui a des vols directs et bagages gratuits). Et puis la location d'une voiture a SLC pour faire une boucle.
La plupart de la region entre SF et Yellowstone a tres peu d'interet. C'est une region depeuplee. Mais au nord de SF c'est beau et a l'est et au sud-est de SF c'est beau.
Wah, vous assurez, quelle rapidité. C'est compliqué, je m'en doutais, et je veux pas tomber dans le vieux piège du couple qui veut tout faire et qui au final passe son temps à courir sans rien voir...
Si je reprends l'itinéraire proposé (merci !), que pensez-vous de ceci :
J1: arrivée à Jackson
J2: Jackson - Grand Teton
J3: Grand Teton - Yellowstone
J4 - J5 & J6: Yellowstone
J7: Yellowstone - Antelope Island (Grand Lac Salé)
J8: Antelope Island - Bryce
J9: Bryce-Page
J10: Page - Monument Valley
J11: Monument Valley - Grand Canyon
J12: Grand Canyon - Vegas
J13 : Vegas- Death Valley
J14 : Death Valley–Lee Vining
J15 : Lee Vining - Yosemite
J16 : Yosemite - SF
J17 : SF
J18 : SF
J19 : SF
J20 : SF-retour
Avec 1-2 jour de marge à ajouter là ou c'est trop stress... Trop speed vous allez dire, hein ?
Sinon autre possibilité, attaquer à Yellowstone, puis vol interne vers SFA, puis descente soit sur Vegas, soit sur LA (et on se garde Vegas et les parcs "alentours" pour un prochain séjour) ?
SFA et Yellowstone, on y tient particulièrement... Et ça complique tout le reste. Votre défi, si vous l'acceptez..... :-)
Bah à part Yellowstone et SF c'est une nuit partout donc de la route tous les jours, changements d'hôtels tous les jours, valises tous les jours... Pas trop de temps pour les visites.
Faisable, oui, mais je ne le ferais pas! 😕
et je veux pas tomber dans le vieux piège du couple qui veut tout faire et qui au final passe son temps à courir sans rien voir...
Ah, Ah, j'ai eu peur... j'avais lu "le piège du vieux couple" (humour...).
Bonsoir Cédric,
Attention, j'ai bien lu...(cette fois) du 15 juillet au 06 août... 2012 (et non 2013 !).
Donc en parallèle de la résa des vols et du détail du circuit il faudra rapidement consulter les résa d'hôtels car à Yellowstone (particulièrement) ça va être "chaud".
Sur papier, c'est possible...
En réalité, sur place, tu vas courir.. tu fais des km ts les jours, tu changes d'hôtels ts les jours😕... tout cela ne laisse aucune place à une visite un peu approfondie et plus cool.
Maintenant, si tu te contentes de qq points de vue et d'un voyage qui ressemble à un road-trip, oui... c'est possible🤪
Et comme dit Itat, méfie toi des locations impossibles en one way au départ de Jackson.. Plusieurs ont eu des problèmes. Jackson est un petit aéroport et les loueurs qui s'y trouvent tiennent à ce que leurs voitures louées leur reviennent et ne partent pas à 1000 km de là. Sur internet, cela semble possible mais en réalité, la plupart des locations en one way sont refusées (surtout pour un SUV)
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Wah mais c'est quasiment réponses instantanées ici... Vous êtes des ninjas.
Oui, vous avez raison, on se pose jamais... Donc je vais reprendre l'itinéraire proposé par Bastinj en zapant Zion :
J1: arrivée SLC
J2: SLC - Jackson - Grand Teton
J3: Grand Teton
J4: Grand Teton - Yellowstone
J5 - J6 & J7: Yellowstone
J8: Yellowstone - Antelope Island (Grand Lac Salé)
J9: Antelope Island - Bryce
J10: Bryce
J11: Bryce - Page
J12: Page - Monument Valley
J13: Monument Valley - Grand Canyon
J14: Grand Canyon
J15: Grand Canyon - Vegas
J16: Vol Vegas - SF
J17 & J20: SF
Ca m'a pas l'air trop mal... Avis ?
Tt j'ai un jour en rab, à voir où je le passe... SF ? Ou j'ajoute une étape ? :-)
Pour les hôtels... ouais, je sais, on s'y prend à la der... à part à west yellowstone, c'est mort. C'est dire si j'apprécie vos réponses rapides ! Besoin d'un gros coup de décompression après de gros stress au boulot....
Ok, billets d'avion réservé ! Et un nouveau dilemme à vous soumettre. Mais plutôt cool, c'est du temps en rab (on a rallongé). 3 jours bonus sur la 1ère partie du parcours entre Salt Lake et Vegas. Vous en feriez quoi vous ? (Pas Zion si on est pas randonneur, et Vegas m'attire mais pas tant, mais pourquoi pas...). Jusqu'ici ca donne
J1: arrivée SLC
J2: SLC - Jackson - Grand Teton
J3: Grand Teton
J4: Grand Teton - Yellowstone
J5 - J6 & J7: Yellowstone
J8: Yellowstone - Antelope Island (Grand Lac Salé)
J9: Antelope Island - Bryce
J10: Bryce
J11: Bryce - Page
J12: Page - Monument Valley
J13: Monument Valley - Grand Canyon
J14: Grand Canyon
J15: Grand Canyon - Vegas
??? Où rallonger ou rester plus longtemps, 3 jours entre Salt Lake et Vegas ?
J19: Vol Vegas - SF
J20-21-22-23 SF
Vous fairiez quoi ? Merci pour vos avis éclairés !
3 jours bonus sur la 1ère partie du parcours entre Salt Lake et Vegas. Vous en feriez quoi vous ? (Pas Zion si on est pas randonneur, et Vegas m'attire mais pas tant, mais pourquoi pas...).
Je conseille Arches NP et Canyonland NP avant Monument Valley, et peut-etre un jour+ a Yellowstone NP.
Vegas ne m'attire pas non plus. Cependant, c'est vaut la peine a voir une fois.
Avec ce nombre de jours disponibles, il y a bcp de possibilités , mais si vos vols sont maintenant achetés (avec arrivée à SLC et retour depuis SF) , en voici 3:
Soit supprimer le vol interne Las Vegas - SF et faire la route en voiture:
J16: Las Vegas - Death Valley
J17: Death Valley - Lee Vining
J18: Lee Vining - Yosemite
J19: Yosemite
J20-21-22-23: SF
Soit incorporer Moab, un must de l'ouest américain (et garder le vol interne Las Vegas-SF):
J1 : Vol vers Salt Lake City - Shoshone Falls, nuit à Twin Falls
J2 : Craters of the Moon, route vers Yellowstone, nuit à West Yellowstone ou à Old Faithful
J3 : Yellowstone
J4 : Yellowstone
J5 : Yellowstone
J6 : Yellowstone - Cody (ou J6: Yellowstone - Grand Teton et J7: visite de Grand Teton)
J7 : Cody - Grand Teton
J8 : Jackson - Flaming Gorge- Vernal
J9 : Dinosaur NM (nuit à Vernal)
J10 : Vernal - Moab
J11 : Moab (Arches NP)
J12 : Moab (Island in the Sky + Dead Horse Point)
J13 : Moab - Valley of the Gods - Goosenecks - Monument Valley
J14 : Monument Valley - Page (Lac Powell)
J15 : Page
J16 : Page - Bryce Canyon
J17 : Bryce Canyon
J18 : Bryce Canyon – Zion
J19 : Zion - Valley of Fire - Las Vegas
J20 : Las Vegas
J21 : matin: vol Las Vegas – SF
J22 : SF
J23 : SF
Donc avec Zion et Valley of Fire
ou
J13 : Moab - Capitol Reef - Bryce Canyon
J14 : Bryce Canyon
J15 : Bryce Canyon - Page
J16 : Page
J17 : Page - Monument Valley
J18 : Monument Valley - Grand Canyon
J19 : Grand Canyon - Las Vegas
J20 : Las Vegas
J21 : matin: vol Las Vegas – SF
J22 : SF
J23 : SF
Donc sans Zion ni Valley of Fire mais avec Capitol Reef et Grand Canyon
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Maintenant, c'est qd même dommage d'avoir déjà acheté vos billets d'avion, parce que vous auriez pu faire l'itinéraire ci-dessous sans devoir payer des frais de drop off (puisque les villes de départ et d'arrivée sont les mêmes ) et vs auriez pu voir les parcs (Zion, Valley of Fire, Capitol Reef et Grand Canyon) pour lesquels vs devez maintenant faire un choix
J1 : Arrivée à Las Vegas
J2 : Las Vegas- Grand Canyon South Rim
J3 : Grand Canyon - Page
J4 : Page - Monument Valley
J5 : Goosenecks, Valley of Gods - Moab
J6 : Moab
J7 : Moab
J8 : Moab - Vernal
J9 : Vernal – Vernal (Dinosaur NM)
J10 : Vernal - Flaming Gorge - Jackson Hole
J11 : Jackson Hole-Grand Teton - Yellowstone
J12 : Yellowstone
J13 : Yellowstone
J14 : Yellowstone
J15 : Yellowstone - Salt Lake City
J16 : Salt Lake City - Capitol Reef - Torrey
J17 : Torrey - Bryce Canyon
J18 : Bryce Canyon - Zion
J19 : Zion – Valley of Fire - Las Vegas
J20 : Las Vegas
J21 : matin: vol Las Vegas – SF
J22 : SF
J23 : SF
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Allez, la majorité l'emporte ! :-) J'ai super envie de voir Moab... J'aimerais bien y glisser une journée de Raft, mais ça risque d'être serré...
J'aime beaucoup ton itinéraire numéro 2-bis Jacqueline, merci ! Tu y es allée combien de fois pour pondre des itinéraires comme ça ? Impressionant (vu comme je lutte d'ici...)
Problème : mon vol interne est à J19 et pas à J21...
Donc Moab un jour de plus ce serait pas du luxe, Bryce j'y tiens. La journée complète à Vegas moins... Grand Canyon c'est bizarre de pas y aller pour un premier voyage, en même temps c'est pas le plus impressionnant paraît-il...
Sur la première partie du parcours, à part enlever une nuit à Yellow, pas moyen de gagner une journée ? Dinosaur NM c'est une étape nécessaire hein, sinon trop de route ? Sinon faire Bryce-Monument Valley directement ?
C'est un truc à mourir de dilemme faire un itinéraire côte ouest :-) Pour rappel ton itinéraire...
J1 : Vol vers Salt Lake City - Shoshone Falls, nuit à Twin Falls
J2 : Craters of the Moon, route vers Yellowstone, nuit à West Yellowstone ou à Old Faithful
J3 : Yellowstone
J4 : Yellowstone
J5 : Yellowstone
J6 : Yellowstone - Cody (ou J6: Yellowstone - Grand Teton et J7: visite de Grand Teton)
J7 : Cody - Grand Teton
J8 : Jackson - Flaming Gorge- Vernal
J9 : Dinosaur NM (nuit à Vernal)
J10 : Vernal - Moab
J11 : Moab (Arches NP)
J12 : Moab (Island in the Sky + Dead Horse Point)
J13 : Moab - Capitol Reef - Bryce Canyon
J14 : Bryce Canyon
J15 : Bryce Canyon - Page
J16 : Page
J17 : Page - Monument Valley
J18 : Monument Valley - Grand Canyon
J19 : Grand Canyon - Las Vegas
J20 : Las Vegas
J21 : matin: vol Las Vegas – SF
J22 : SF
J23 : SF
Pourquoi pas ceci? Dommage d'avoir réservé ton vol interne si vite! 😕
J1 : Vol vers Salt Lake City - SLC - Nuit SLC
J2 : SLC - Antelope Island State Park - Jackson - Nuit Jackson
J3 : Jackson - Grand Teton - Yellowstone - Nuit West Yellowstone
J4 : Yellowstone
J5 : Yellowstone
J6 : Yellowstone
J7 : Yellowstone - Flaming Gorge - Nuit Vernal
J8 : Vernal - Moab (Tu n'auras pas vraiment le temps de visiter Dinosaur, mais pourquoi pas visiter en cours de route Colorado NM puis arriver à Moab en empruntant la superbe route UT128?)
J9 : Moab (Arches)
J10 : Moab ((Island in the Sky + Dead Horse Point)
J11 : Moab (Raft? ou autre chose tu as plein de choses à faire dans la région)
J12 : Moab - Capitol Reef - Bryce Canyon - Nuit Tropic
J13 : Bryce Canyon
J14 : Bryce Canyon - Page - Nuit Page
J15 : Page - Monument Valley - Nuit Mexican Hat
J16 :Monument Valley - Grand Canyon - Nuit Grand Canyon Village ou Tusayan
J17 : Grand Canyon (Visite) puis nuit Williams si tu veux t'avancer pour Vegas ou nuit idem que la veille
J18 : Grand Canyon - Vegas
J19 : matin: vol Las Vegas – SF
J20 : SF
J21 : SF
J22 : SF
Mais t'avais raison Thibaud, rock'n'roll les hôtel à yellowstone 2 mois avant... C'était limite, je suis 2 nuits à Gardiner et 2 nuits à West Y, et je paie surement un peu plus cher que si je m'y étais pris plus vite...
Pour le reste, vous conseillez de booker toutes les nuits ?
Je pensais de toute manière réserver Salt-Lake, Vegas et SF, mais on the road on peut se laisser vivre ? Mauvais plan ?
Oui je pense que c'est un mauvais plan de ne pas réserver. 😉
Déjà parce que c'est la haute saison. Ensuite parce que de toute façon ton circuit ne te laissera que peu de place à l'improvisation.
Il faut donc tout réserver et préparer un planning béton 😉
Merci du tuyau. Les hôtels sont tous réservés. Pffff... c'était long ! (reste juste une inconnue entre 2 hôtel à Brice).
Merci aussi pour le tuyau sur la route UT128, vu le temps qu'on passe en voiture je suis preneur de ce genre d'ittinéraire plus joli, on est plus à 30mn près. Si vous en avez d'autres d'ailleurs, j'achète.
Voiture aussi réservée, pour 550 euros environ, +150 dollars le drop. Restera plus qu'a bien se renseigner pour ne pas se faire arnarquer avec les assurances.
Maintenant il faut commencer de se renseigner pour les activités spot par spot ! C'est du boulot de partir en vacances hein ? (bon vous, vous le savez, moi je débute :-).
Besoin de vos lumières (car google maps ne me donne pas le kilométrage de la tioga road parce qu'on est en hiver). Nous partons en Août et je bloque sur la fin…
Suggestion d'hotel (pas à 300$/nuits) et d'activités à faire à Hampton Beach? Je compte y aller avec mes enfants de 12 et 14 ans durant 4 jours à la mi…
Voila mon road book est fini...mais jusqu'à Yosemite valley...ensuite pour San Francisco je ne sais trop comment faire et que voir. A savoir que on va la…
Après avoir hésité entre la Louisiane et Yellowstone, notre choix c est porté sur un voyage entre Las Vegas et Denver en passant par Yellowstone pour 5 jours.…
Hello! The itinerary is pretty much set for August 2026. Yeah, I know it’s gonna be *super* hot. But it’s the only time we can get away.
So, here’s the plan: Montpellier-CDG-Dallas.
Stay from July 31 to August 26, 2026:
Car rental – check,
Hotels – check,
Itinerary – almost check,
Photo gear – check,
Budget – check, 🤪
Meal planning – meh, we’ll see...
Walmart, of course, for the cooler when we arrive.
And now, without too much detail...
Fort Worth:
The Longhorns and the Stockyards;
JR’s ranch (for the missus);
Medal of Honor Museum – Arlington.
Houston and NASA Space Center:
See the Gulf of Mexico/America.
San Antonio and the missions.
Fort Stockton for an overnight stop.
El Paso via Guadalupe Mountains:
El Paso and White Sands.
Tucson and the Pima Air & Space Museum:
Tombstone, Bisbee.
Phoenix:
Still working on the program.
Sedona:
Round trip around the area via Flagstaff and Williams, or the Grand Canyon (already done) – we’ll decide on the spot.
Albuquerque:
Santa Fe,
Turquoise Trail,
Los Alamos.
Amarillo via Route 66:
Old Route 66 in the city;
Big Texas Ranch Steak 😏.
Dallas:
JFK Museum;
Perot Museum;
West End district.
And through it all – the road, the road, and more road!!!
We’ll adapt day by day based on our mental and physical state (we’re not exactly spring chickens).
Hello everyone! Really damaged due to flooding caused by runoff after forest fires (a total mess!), does anyone in this friendly forum have any updates on the Apache Trail between Apache Junction and Roosevelt Dam? Is there still a section of the road that’s tough to navigate?
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary.
Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between:
- The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc.
- The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road.
Thanks for your input!
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes:
- East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop
- West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon!
Marcalamar 🙂
After our first trip as a young couple to the West in 2007 (yes, that doesn’t make us any younger!), we’re planning to go back in 2028, but this time as a family of four! (We have two boys who’ll be 5½ and 13 years old in the summer of 2028.)
Our plan is to combine a few big cities (SF and LA, maybe San Diego) with national parks and state parks, mostly!
Ideally, we’d like to leave at the end of June and head back to France around July 19–20, so we can enjoy the first week of the Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
Since we already did the "loop" in 2007, there are must-see places we absolutely want to revisit—and especially share with our kids: Bryce Canyon, Yosemite, and above all, the Grand Canyon, which is still the most incredible thing I’ve ever seen on Earth!
On the other hand, some places didn’t leave a big impression on us for various reasons, so we’re not making them a priority: Antelope Canyon, Monument Valley, for example.
We’re planning ahead, but might as well be smart about it😏
Do you have any tips for a fun and doable itinerary over about 20–25 days with kids, without rushing?
Hi everyone! 🙂
Just a quick question about King Canyon and Sequoia National Park.
Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route:
Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles
Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman
Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon
Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page
Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page
Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley
Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango
Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango
Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango
Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango
Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs
Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs
Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab
Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab
Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab
Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab
Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab
Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal
Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton
Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton
Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody
Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone
Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone
Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone
Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone
Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City
Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon
Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion
Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion
Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion
Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas
Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas
Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles
Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles
Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels
Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way:
- Mormon Rocks
- Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite
- Joshua Tree National Park
- Mojave Desert
- Mojave National Preserve
- Anza-Borrego Desert State Park
- Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon.
We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre.
Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:**
We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:**
Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:**
Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary:
Day 1: Davis – overnight stop
Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen)
Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes
Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike
Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes)
Day 6: South Lake Tahoe
Day 7: South Lake Tahoe
Day 8: Mammoth Lake
Day 9: Mammoth Lake
Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road
Day 11: El Portal
Day 12: El Portal
Day 13: Oakhurst
Day 14: Miramonte
Day 15: Three Rivers
Day 16: Three Rivers
Day 17: Coalinga
Day 18: Monterey
Day 19: Monterey
Day 20: San Francisco
Day 21: San Francisco
Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned:
Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2)
Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3)
Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4)
Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV?
Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast.
I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October.
My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips.
I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas)
T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC)
W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page
Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV)
F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab
Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce
Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion
M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas
Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks...
For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400,
which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.).
Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels.
Cheers,
Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense?
Day 1: Orlando
Day 2: Amelia Island
Day 3: Amelia Island
Day 4: Tallahassee
Day 5: Panama City Beach
Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin)
Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way)
Day 8: Crystal River
Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater)
Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete)
Day 11: Anna Maria
Day 12: Orlando
Day 13: Orlando
Day 14: Orlando
Day 15: Departure
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus.
In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high.
Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities?
- Los Angeles
- Las Vegas
- San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?