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Randonnée de deux jours en montagne accessible depuis Paris en train?
by Chacha5845
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Bonjour à tous!
Je souhaite faire une randonnée de 2 jours (3 jours si la destination est proche de Paris) pour le week-end du 15 août.
Je partirai de Paris en train donc je cherche un itinéraire facilement accessible en train (ou autre transport public), en montagne de préférence, mais peu importe l'endroit en France. J'aime beaucoup marcher donc je ne suis pas effrayée par quelques passages un peu difficiles (tant qu'ils ne sont pas dangereux et à la limite de l'escalade), s'ils permettent de voir de superbes paysages (montagnes, lacs...). Mais j'adore la photographie donc le but n'est pas non plus de faire une course en marchant 12h / jour.
L'idée serait de dormir dans des refuges ou sous la tente, le but étant de payer le moins cher possible (nous serons 2 étudiants à partir).
J'ai également une question qui peut paraître stupide : en montagne, peut-on poser sa tente n'importe où pour la nuit ?
Merci d'avance à ceux qui prendront le temps de répondre !
Merci d'avance à ceux qui prendront le temps de répondre !
Salut eh bien tout simplement TGV jusqu'à Chambery Modane puis descendre soit à Saint Michel Valloire soit à Modane et faire le tour du Thabor.
Ou aller à Grenoble et bus pour les plateaux du Vercors.
De Grenoble on peut aller aussi dans la Chartreuse
en montagne, peut-on poser sa tente n'importe où pour la nuit ?
le bivouac est réglementé dans les parcs naturels régionaux (PNR) ou nationaux : il est souvent autorisé seulement à + de 1 h de marche d'une route, ou seulement à proximité immédiate d'un refuge. Consultez la réglementation des parcs sur leur site web. Hors des parcs, le bivouac est généralement possible partout, sauf si vous voyez une indication contraire (par ex. à proximité immédiate d'un captage d'eau potable, ou d'une réserve de chasse).
Vous trouverez des randonnées en montagne faciles et néanmoins chouettes, accessibles avec un trajet pas trop long depuis Paris à partir de Grenoble, Chambéry, Modane ou Chamonix, en combinant le train avec un car départemental ou un téléphérique. Idem pour les Pyrénées depuis Toulouse je suppose.
le bivouac est réglementé dans les parcs naturels régionaux (PNR) ou nationaux : il est souvent autorisé seulement à + de 1 h de marche d'une route, ou seulement à proximité immédiate d'un refuge. Consultez la réglementation des parcs sur leur site web. Hors des parcs, le bivouac est généralement possible partout, sauf si vous voyez une indication contraire (par ex. à proximité immédiate d'un captage d'eau potable, ou d'une réserve de chasse).
Vous trouverez des randonnées en montagne faciles et néanmoins chouettes, accessibles avec un trajet pas trop long depuis Paris à partir de Grenoble, Chambéry, Modane ou Chamonix, en combinant le train avec un car départemental ou un téléphérique. Idem pour les Pyrénées depuis Toulouse je suppose.
parcours batier autour de Dijon, bien sportif, faisable en 3 jours mais faut pas trainer
Bonjour Charlotte.
L'idée de Matthews est pas mal (assez long tout de même: il faut plutôt 3 jours), d'autant plus qu'il y a des trains de nuit Paris-Modane et des navettes jusqu'à Valfréjus (il y en avait cet hiver en tout cas, à vérifier pour l'été). En plus, vous pouvez même vous passer de la tente et bivouaquer sans, car en cas de mauvais temps, il est possible de dormir dans la chapelle du Mont Thabor au sommet (bien se ravitailler en eau avant, car il n'y en a pas au sommet). Sinon, il y a avant un coin pas mal pour camper auprès d'un petit lac 600 ou 700m plus bas, dans un charmant petit vallon avec plein de marmottes.
Ensuite, plutôt que de faire une boucle, vous pouvez redescendre sur le refuge des Drayères, puis les lacs avant le Col des Rochilles ou le lac des Cerces, où c'est pas mal pour camper également. Puis vous pouvez redescendre sur l'Alpe du Lauzet (en faisant la Pointe des Cerces en passant, pourquoi pas, ou en passant par l'Aiguillette du Lauzet où il y a pas mal de bouquetins) et de là, prendre une navette (vers 19h) qui vous ramène soit à Briançon (train de nuit pour Paris, à vérifier pendant l'été), soit à Grenoble (navette vers 16h30), et TGV pour rentrer le soir même sur Paris.
Si vous n'avez que 2 jours, vous pouvez simplement prendre le train de nuit pour Briançon, puis de là aller à Névache (pas beaucoup de transport en commun cet hiver, j'ai dû faire du stop, mais c'est sans doute différent l'été). Et De Névache, vous remontez vers le refuge des Drayères puis comme précédemment, par le lac de Cerces, redescente sur L'Alpe du Lauzet. Il y a également des tas d'autres variantes possibles, le bus Briançon/Grenoble s'arrêtant également à Monêtier, La Salle, ou St Chaffrey.
L'avantage de toute la zone Thabor/Cerces, c'est que vous êtes hors parc naturel, donc pas de problèmes pour camper/bivouaquer. Et si vous faites les sommets (Mont Thabor ou Pointe des Cerces), ou même de certains cols, vous avez de très belles vue sur le massif des Ecrins.
Pour moi, c'est la zone idéale pour randonner été comme hiver en montagne quand on a pas trop de temps et que l'on est en transport en commun. Mais peut-être d'autres forumeurs auront aussi d'autres bonnes idées.
P'tit' étoile.
L'idée de Matthews est pas mal (assez long tout de même: il faut plutôt 3 jours), d'autant plus qu'il y a des trains de nuit Paris-Modane et des navettes jusqu'à Valfréjus (il y en avait cet hiver en tout cas, à vérifier pour l'été). En plus, vous pouvez même vous passer de la tente et bivouaquer sans, car en cas de mauvais temps, il est possible de dormir dans la chapelle du Mont Thabor au sommet (bien se ravitailler en eau avant, car il n'y en a pas au sommet). Sinon, il y a avant un coin pas mal pour camper auprès d'un petit lac 600 ou 700m plus bas, dans un charmant petit vallon avec plein de marmottes.
Ensuite, plutôt que de faire une boucle, vous pouvez redescendre sur le refuge des Drayères, puis les lacs avant le Col des Rochilles ou le lac des Cerces, où c'est pas mal pour camper également. Puis vous pouvez redescendre sur l'Alpe du Lauzet (en faisant la Pointe des Cerces en passant, pourquoi pas, ou en passant par l'Aiguillette du Lauzet où il y a pas mal de bouquetins) et de là, prendre une navette (vers 19h) qui vous ramène soit à Briançon (train de nuit pour Paris, à vérifier pendant l'été), soit à Grenoble (navette vers 16h30), et TGV pour rentrer le soir même sur Paris.
Si vous n'avez que 2 jours, vous pouvez simplement prendre le train de nuit pour Briançon, puis de là aller à Névache (pas beaucoup de transport en commun cet hiver, j'ai dû faire du stop, mais c'est sans doute différent l'été). Et De Névache, vous remontez vers le refuge des Drayères puis comme précédemment, par le lac de Cerces, redescente sur L'Alpe du Lauzet. Il y a également des tas d'autres variantes possibles, le bus Briançon/Grenoble s'arrêtant également à Monêtier, La Salle, ou St Chaffrey.
L'avantage de toute la zone Thabor/Cerces, c'est que vous êtes hors parc naturel, donc pas de problèmes pour camper/bivouaquer. Et si vous faites les sommets (Mont Thabor ou Pointe des Cerces), ou même de certains cols, vous avez de très belles vue sur le massif des Ecrins.
Pour moi, c'est la zone idéale pour randonner été comme hiver en montagne quand on a pas trop de temps et que l'on est en transport en commun. Mais peut-être d'autres forumeurs auront aussi d'autres bonnes idées.
P'tit' étoile.
Merci beaucoup pour toutes vos réponses détaillées, j'ai maintenant plein de super idées et même pour de futurs week-end si j'ai la chance de pouvoir réorganiser une rando courte.
En cherchant hier je suis aussi tombée sur l'idée d'aller à Annecy car très pratique en train et pas très cher. Les randos de 2 jours à faire autour sont-elles sympa ? Je ne connais ni la ville ni les alentours.
Merci
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Bonjour,
Annecy, c'est déjà une grande ville, tu devras prendre un car ou faire du stop pour en sortir. Pour arriver directement au départ d'une randonnée, je conseille de viser une petite gare. Par exemple, des randonneurs partent directement vers le Vercors depuis la gare de Clelles, ou de celle de Lus La Croix Haute, sur la ligne de Grenoble à Veynes. Sinon, tu as des randos du côté de Saint Gervais ou Chamonix, soit à partir des nombreuses gares du fond de vallée sur la ligne de Saint Gervais à Vallorcine, soit avec possibilité de monter par le train à crémaillère de Saint Gervais (Tramway du Mont Blanc) ou de Chamonix (Train du Montenvers). Si tu acceptes de prendre le car, depuis Grenoble, toutes les montagnes voisines sont desservies en car (réseau TransIsère) avec des tarifs assez modérés.
Bernard
Annecy, c'est déjà une grande ville, tu devras prendre un car ou faire du stop pour en sortir. Pour arriver directement au départ d'une randonnée, je conseille de viser une petite gare. Par exemple, des randonneurs partent directement vers le Vercors depuis la gare de Clelles, ou de celle de Lus La Croix Haute, sur la ligne de Grenoble à Veynes. Sinon, tu as des randos du côté de Saint Gervais ou Chamonix, soit à partir des nombreuses gares du fond de vallée sur la ligne de Saint Gervais à Vallorcine, soit avec possibilité de monter par le train à crémaillère de Saint Gervais (Tramway du Mont Blanc) ou de Chamonix (Train du Montenvers). Si tu acceptes de prendre le car, depuis Grenoble, toutes les montagnes voisines sont desservies en car (réseau TransIsère) avec des tarifs assez modérés.
Bernard
Bernard
Bonjour;tu as aussi la solution Pyrénées Orientales avec un Paris-gare de Lyon Perpignan en 5 heures et demi, puis bus pour Prades.Gorges de la carança, une très belle rando avec refuge à mi-chemin.
Je ne m'étales pas, si tu es intéressée, je te donnerai plus de renseignements.
A partir de mi-Août, la température devient sympa dans les P.o
La vie, ce n'est pas attendre que l'orage passe, c'est apprendre à danser sous la pluie.
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I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice? Best regards,
Hi there, I’m planning the Annapurna Circuit for March 2027 and I’m looking for a local agency with a local guide—preferably French-speaking—to arrange this trek for us. Any suggestions? Thanks
Hello!
We’re spending a few days in Toraja country at the end of May. We’d love to do a day trek—taking our time—on a route that’s stunning in terms of scenery, but not a level 5 in difficulty!
Any suggestions you can share, please?
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’d like to do the Mare a Mare Sud in May over 4 days. I’ve found quite a few places to stay along the route, but I’m stuck on the start and finish. I’ll be arriving by plane on Sunday evening and would like to start pretty early on Monday morning. Ideally, accommodation right at the trailhead (Alzu di Gallina) would be amazing, but I can’t find anything. Any tips? Also, for the transfer from Figari Airport to Porto Vecchio or Alzu di Gallina? At the end, I’d like to pick up a rental car—any advice on that too?
Thanks in advance!
Caro
I’m traveling solo by plane to Catania in May and plan to hike the northern side of Etna, starting from Linguaglossa where I’ll arrive by bus. After that, I’d love some info on how to get up to Piano Provenzana (shuttles or hitchhiking), since it seems there’s no public transport except in the summer. Can you sleep there in a free or cheap refuge, or camp? And how far up can you go without having to hire a guide? Thanks in advance. Bernard.
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Morocco in August and we’ll start with a stop in Chefchaouen (we’re driving).
My question: can anyone suggest a 5-to-7-day loop hiking route from Chefchaouen in Talassemtane Park, ideally passing by the God’s Bridge? Or a paper guidebook that covers a few options?
We prefer wild camping and guesthouses.
Thanks in advance
Hi there, for those who’ve been recently—is it possible to find other solo travelers in March on the island to share transport or room costs? It doesn’t seem easy to travel on a budget.
If you have any recommendations for simple lodgings or places with dorms, I’d love to hear them.
For those who’ve done multi-day treks while moving around: do you need to bring your own sleeping bag? I’d love to hear about itineraries you’ve done without a guide, just with a map and GPS.
Thanks, and have a great day!
Hi everyone!
We’re planning a 15-day road trip to Scotland this summer, specifically to explore and hike on Lewis and Harris—places we’ve never been before. We’ve visited other islands on previous road trips in Scotland (we usually go in April for a week). This would be our first time in Scotland in the summer and for 15 days. We’re looking at late August to early September.
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
I’m currently drafting the itinerary. We’d be crossing from Ullapool and were thinking of spending 3 nights on Harris and 4 nights on Lewis.
Does that sound balanced to you? Is it better to keep the same accommodation on Harris and the same on Lewis to explore the area? I’d love to hear about any past experiences you’ve had on these islands. Thanks!
Hi there, I’m trying to leave for 15 days very soon to São Vicente. I’m either looking to join an agency or figure things out on my own to go hiking on one of these islands or both. From what I’ve seen, it’s not easy to organize with local transport, so it gets expensive. Can I use the services of a small local agency? I’m looking for the simplest way to hike for several days. Also, how do you get from São Vicente to São Nicolau? Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Aichatou
Hi there,
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
I’ve been wanting to do this for several years, and this year’s the one. Next September, I’ll be trekking in Tusheti (Georgia), from Omalo to Shatili. Of course, I won’t be renting a vehicle that’d just sit unused. No problem getting to Pshaveli, but from there to Omalo, it’s a dirt road (still the case?) There must be some form of public transport since there are so many guesthouses, and not all travelers come in a 4x4. If any of you have been to Omalo, could you confirm that these shared transports exist and how often they run?
hi
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
we’re planning a trip to Yellowstone and hoping to do a three-day backcountry hike if we get a permit. if any of you have done this before, could you let me know if it’s possible to find water along the way? And if we can transport it, are we allowed to use a stove?
thanks for any tips!
sandra
