Hi there,
I’m heading to Morocco soon and I’d like to get the bodywork and paint on my van redone. Do you know any good places or contacts?
Thanks in advance!
Maloubo!!!
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Repainting a van in Morocco: recommendations?
by Maloubo
Translated into English.
I’m a bodywork specialist in Switzerland. During a trip in 2009, I used the services of a bodywork shop in Meknes. This shop works to the highest standards, and their quality is on par with European standards. Their address is Israe Auto, 133 Av Saadiyine (opposite the mills), ISRAE.Auto@menara.ma
Good luck.
In the north as well, I know quite a few who are reliable and conscientious.
I’d be really interested in your contacts in northern Morocco.
Otherwise, I was wondering: should I bring euros to pay the body shop, or should I pay in local currency? What do you think is the average price for a full body repair with a new paint job?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Maloubo
Otherwise, I was wondering: should I bring euros to pay the body shop, or should I pay in local currency? What do you think is the average price for a full body repair with a new paint job?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Maloubo
It's better to come with euros, exchange them, and then pay in dirhams.
Also, it’s a good idea to bring your own paint. What kind of van is it?
Good evening,
Always pay in dirhams.
I redid my 206 (last summer, local bodywork and paint job) for 2000 DH or 185 €.
Done in 48 hours flat. Looked brand new when they were done.
For the same price (2000 DH), a dentist put a crown in for me (off-topic, I know).
What a vacation!
Oh yeah, I forgot—it was in Casa (Hay Hassani).
Don’t forget to give small tips to the young guys working on it to keep them motivated...
La revolution ?quelle revolution?
Okay!!! Paying in dirhams...
Personally, I’ve had a Mercedes 508 for quite a few years, and it really needs a full bodywork refresh. I realize it’s way more interesting to do it in Morocco. I’m thinking I could get it done for around 600 € (paint included)...
Avi2rcherch, do you think it’s better to bring my own paint? Is it because their paint is low quality, or is the selection limited?
Thanks for your replies...
Personally, I’ve had a Mercedes 508 for quite a few years, and it really needs a full bodywork refresh. I realize it’s way more interesting to do it in Morocco. I’m thinking I could get it done for around 600 € (paint included)...
Avi2rcherch, do you think it’s better to bring my own paint? Is it because their paint is low quality, or is the selection limited?
Thanks for your replies...
the choice isn't limited, it's more the quality that's average, but it holds up with what they have. For me, it held up well in any case. 600 € is huge, I'd say less. Ask for the price beforehand and only pay the guy what's necessary—negotiate too! You pay for the paint, the stuff to fill the holes, the sandpaper, and you go with him to the hardware store. For your 508, plan for about 1 week depending on the condition;
Visite le MAROC avec son 4x4 :D
Hi there,
A risk not to be overlooked!
A few years ago, one of my friends had the body of his Mercedes 209 repainted in Fes—a gorgeous canary yellow... but during the work, some parts were swapped out for others that were way past their wear limit, including the brake master cylinder! So, you’ve gotta stop by the workshop several times a day and be suspicious if a mechanic is under the car or in the hood!?
A risk not to be overlooked!
A few years ago, one of my friends had the body of his Mercedes 209 repainted in Fes—a gorgeous canary yellow... but during the work, some parts were swapped out for others that were way past their wear limit, including the brake master cylinder! So, you’ve gotta stop by the workshop several times a day and be suspicious if a mechanic is under the car or in the hood!?
I’m reviving this thread… could you share a few body shop addresses in the north?
I’m specifically looking for a **heavy-vehicle** body shop to fit a Polifond box, but any info is welcome.
Thanks
Thanks
Hi,
a truck body shop to mount a Polifond body, but any info is welcome
To mount a body on a truck, you need to follow certain standards (the famous red bars on trucks). If your setup isn’t done properly or if there are modifications to your chassis, you might run into trouble during the vehicle inspection.
Just look at the state of trucks on the road in Morocco—no standards are respected: no GVW, no CU, no GCW...
If you still want to do it in the north, here are two addresses I know: 1) On the way out of Nador toward Beni Nsar, you won’t miss it—it’s on your left as you leave Nador in a hangar! 2) In Oujda, in the industrial zone on the road to Algeria.
How are you planning to transport your POLYFOND body and your truck to Morocco? It’ll cost you money to bring in your body! You might also face customs duties! And there’s that...🙁
a truck body shop to mount a Polifond body, but any info is welcome
To mount a body on a truck, you need to follow certain standards (the famous red bars on trucks). If your setup isn’t done properly or if there are modifications to your chassis, you might run into trouble during the vehicle inspection.
Just look at the state of trucks on the road in Morocco—no standards are respected: no GVW, no CU, no GCW...
If you still want to do it in the north, here are two addresses I know: 1) On the way out of Nador toward Beni Nsar, you won’t miss it—it’s on your left as you leave Nador in a hangar! 2) In Oujda, in the industrial zone on the road to Algeria.
How are you planning to transport your POLYFOND body and your truck to Morocco? It’ll cost you money to bring in your body! You might also face customs duties! And there’s that...🙁
Hi,
For the red stripe, no real problem as long as you stay within the dimensions. For the installation, it shouldn’t be done "half-heartedly" either... I think we can find people who work seriously, and I’d like to stay on-site while the work is being done.
I’d like to get in touch with these bodywork specialists to discuss the technical details before going there. Do you happen to have their names or addresses?
For the car body, no worries—it’s strapped to the carrier’s platform and will arrive like that.
Thanks for the info.
For the red stripe, no real problem as long as you stay within the dimensions. For the installation, it shouldn’t be done "half-heartedly" either... I think we can find people who work seriously, and I’d like to stay on-site while the work is being done.
I’d like to get in touch with these bodywork specialists to discuss the technical details before going there. Do you happen to have their names or addresses?
For the car body, no worries—it’s strapped to the carrier’s platform and will arrive like that.
Thanks for the info.
Hi,
I’d love any contact details you might have so I can reach out before I leave.
Thanks,
Rémi.
Thanks,
Rémi.
If you haven't fixed your problem yet, I can give you the contact details of a body shop in Casa. My friend had his bodywork redone for less than 150 €, whereas in France it would've cost him 1,500 € for perfect work.
Hey,
I’d love to get those details since I’m planning to take advantage of my trip there to repaint my VW camper!!!!!!!
Hey,
I’d love to get those details since I’m planning to take advantage of my trip there to repaint my VW camper!!!!!!!
Good evening............sorry to bother you. I saw that you had answered a question about finding a body shop in northern Morocco..........I’m heading there this summer and want to get my car bodywork redone, preferably around Oujda or even Nador............do you know of any? THANKS FOR YOUR HELP
A very simple and recent example.
I went to Morocco in November 2010 for the first time.
Some acquaintances in Essaouira.
My vehicle was a Fiat Multipla with dents on all four doors, both front fenders, and the rear hatch.
Quote in France: all parts had to be replaced with new ones (since they couldn’t be dent-pulled at French prices), plus full metallic paint job (except the roof): around 3000 €.
In Essaouira: no new parts, everything handmade, full paint job (manufacturer’s color code) except the roof: 350 €. Perfect.
Go figure!!!!
Okay, my local contacts helped me get the "Moroccan" price, not the "tourist" price.
With this example, it’s up to you to negotiate. You’ve got a benchmark.
Oh, I almost forgot!! During the three months I spent there (a little over 10,000 km), I seriously damaged my left front fender. Confirmed quote back in France: 750 €. In Essaouira, at Si-Mo’s, the repair job was flawless: 100 €.
Wherever you are, keep an eye out and stop when you see cars in rough shape, arc welding sparks, basically a mechanic or body shop (usually at the entrance or exit of a town/village), and don’t judge by the looks of the place—it might not seem secure.
Typically, it’s a simple space about the size of your home garage or a standard French bakery, with a not-so-new rolling metal shutter, in neighborhoods where no one stops (sorry, especially not those air-conditioned tour operator buses).
I’m going back for a month in June with my old POPO (1988 VW T3 camper), completely wrecked bodywork.
I’ll come back with a gleaming POPO, all for just 450 € including paint. That almost covers my month-long trip and stay!!!
Magicians!!!!
This time, I’ll take before-and-after photos of the POPO.
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Hey,
Your tip here really interests me!!!! I'm heading to Morocco for the whole month of August with my '78 camper van, and I actually just wanted to redo the paint job since my bodywork is still in good shape. I kinda gave up on it before because of how long it takes. So, could you tell me how long they might take to repaint it? Since I don’t have much time in each city (Morocco road trip, you know?), and roughly how much it might cost me????
Thanks
Thanks
Hey qsw,
If the bodywork doesn’t have too many dents and it’s just about repainting, in Moroccan prices, it should take you a max of 3–4 days. It’s true that if you know someone in a small town in Morocco, they’ll easily find you a bodywork shop, and they can even agree on a date in advance, which could save you a day or a bit more. The ideal thing would be to get it done in a somewhat touristy area so you can combine business with pleasure. For the price, Moroccan rate (not tourist rate), I think you should be able to get it done for between 300 and 400 € max. I’m leaving a bit of wiggle room here. The guy who repainted my Multipla (not a wreck, but pretty dented) in Essaouira last November did the job in 4 days and charged me 350 €. Have you roughly planned your stops yet? If, as you say, it’s just a full repaint with nothing extra, I think you should be able to get it done for 300 €. Anyway, even if it costs a bit more, it’s nothing compared to the price in France. I really want to emphasize that this price is the Moroccan rate. Let me know if you need more info. Alain
If the bodywork doesn’t have too many dents and it’s just about repainting, in Moroccan prices, it should take you a max of 3–4 days. It’s true that if you know someone in a small town in Morocco, they’ll easily find you a bodywork shop, and they can even agree on a date in advance, which could save you a day or a bit more. The ideal thing would be to get it done in a somewhat touristy area so you can combine business with pleasure. For the price, Moroccan rate (not tourist rate), I think you should be able to get it done for between 300 and 400 € max. I’m leaving a bit of wiggle room here. The guy who repainted my Multipla (not a wreck, but pretty dented) in Essaouira last November did the job in 4 days and charged me 350 €. Have you roughly planned your stops yet? If, as you say, it’s just a full repaint with nothing extra, I think you should be able to get it done for 300 €. Anyway, even if it costs a bit more, it’s nothing compared to the price in France. I really want to emphasize that this price is the Moroccan rate. Let me know if you need more info. Alain
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Hey, thanks for the info!
So it's clear, I think I'll get it painted there (worst case, a small bodywork touch-up, but otherwise just the paint). I'm leaving in August, and roughly—without counting any unexpected issues—I should head east toward Merzouga, passing through Meknes, Chefchaouen beforehand, visiting the Dades Gorges and Valley of the Roses, Marrakech, Agadir, and returning via Essaouira. That’s the rough itinerary, which should take about three full weeks. So if I could get the paint job done in 2 days, that’d be ideal. Also, where did you get yours done in Essaouira, or maybe you have other addresses near Tangier?
Thanks! Cheers, Franck
Thanks! Cheers, Franck
Hi Franck,
Great journey—been through those parts several times, except Meknès, since I only cover the southern half of Morocco. Basically everything below the Essaouira/Marrakech line and so on. I haven’t been drawn to the northern half yet. I wouldn’t say I know the southern half inside out, but almost, including Mergouza. Agadir—I’ve passed through at least a dozen times, sticking to the ring road because the city holds no interest for me. Totally rebuilt after the earthquake 30/40 years ago. Nothing to see except Germans by the shovel-load, going from hotel/food to beach and back again. That’s just my personal taste. The High Atlas, Anti-Atlas, Draa, Todra, Ouarzazate, Zagora, Tagounite (the counterpart to Mergouza)—in short, the southern half is nothing but wonders. Is this your first time in Morocco? For your paint job, I can easily check with Si-Mo in Essaouira. I’m leaving my T3 with him on 08/06. I’ll bring my phone as usual. As soon as I’ve seen him, I’ll send you an email from there with his exact price and how long the vehicle will be out of commission. Personally, not being Moroccan, I don’t get any backhanders. (joke) I don’t know if you have a landline, but here’s my number: 0553581658. If you have one, let me know, and I can call you without any problem if you’d like. Best, Alain.
Great journey—been through those parts several times, except Meknès, since I only cover the southern half of Morocco. Basically everything below the Essaouira/Marrakech line and so on. I haven’t been drawn to the northern half yet. I wouldn’t say I know the southern half inside out, but almost, including Mergouza. Agadir—I’ve passed through at least a dozen times, sticking to the ring road because the city holds no interest for me. Totally rebuilt after the earthquake 30/40 years ago. Nothing to see except Germans by the shovel-load, going from hotel/food to beach and back again. That’s just my personal taste. The High Atlas, Anti-Atlas, Draa, Todra, Ouarzazate, Zagora, Tagounite (the counterpart to Mergouza)—in short, the southern half is nothing but wonders. Is this your first time in Morocco? For your paint job, I can easily check with Si-Mo in Essaouira. I’m leaving my T3 with him on 08/06. I’ll bring my phone as usual. As soon as I’ve seen him, I’ll send you an email from there with his exact price and how long the vehicle will be out of commission. Personally, not being Moroccan, I don’t get any backhanders. (joke) I don’t know if you have a landline, but here’s my number: 0553581658. If you have one, let me know, and I can call you without any problem if you’d like. Best, Alain.
"Il vaut mieux faire des enfants quand on est vieux, on les em...de moins longtemps (Desproges)
By the way Franck, is that your Combi in your avatar?
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Hey,
I drove through Morocco two years ago on my way to Senegal in my camper van, but ironically, I don’t know the country all that well. Since it left such a great impression on us (my wife and two kids), we’ve decided to go back and take our time exploring at a relaxed pace. I’ve planned my route based on a few travel blogs and my own online research—it might still change along the way..........
I spent two nights in Agadir, but like you said, there’s not much of interest there. It’s definitely not *the* Morocco!!!!!!!!
If you’ve got a route (with km distances) to suggest that includes Merzouga, the Valley of Roses, and the Dades Gorges, I’d love to hear it—any firsthand experiences are always helpful!
That’s really kind of you with the paint tip! To be more specific, I’d like to do a two-tone paint job and just touch up a couple of small body panels—nothing major. I’m not a perfectionist, so I won’t be scrutinizing the final result under a magnifying glass, especially since in France, they’d charge you 10 times more for the same work.............. Anyway, thanks for your kindness—it’s really appreciated............... Oh, and yep, that’s definitely my camper van............ Cheers, Franck
That’s really kind of you with the paint tip! To be more specific, I’d like to do a two-tone paint job and just touch up a couple of small body panels—nothing major. I’m not a perfectionist, so I won’t be scrutinizing the final result under a magnifying glass, especially since in France, they’d charge you 10 times more for the same work.............. Anyway, thanks for your kindness—it’s really appreciated............... Oh, and yep, that’s definitely my camper van............ Cheers, Franck
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For your van, I’ll look into what to expect for a two-tone paint job and a few dings.
Mostly how much time you should plan for.
I’ll keep you posted.
For Morocco, I’ll send you another email with some spots you shouldn’t miss.
But no way you’ll be able to see everything.
See you soon, Alain
See you soon, Alain
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hi
Nothing to do with it, just Germans everywhere
more like French people now—Germans have been gone for 10 years, they’re rare these days and good riddance...😎
Nothing to do with it, just Germans everywhere
more like French people now—Germans have been gone for 10 years, they’re rare these days and good riddance...😎
You're probably right, Homme du Monde, but since those are places I avoid like the plague, there’s certainly been a shift with the French and others who enjoy that kind of vacation—ideal for "rest and relaxation," but not my thing, and never has been.
But I totally get it.
A couple of friends (in their thirties) just got back from a CLUB ... in Dominica? Buffet orgies, beach, pool, barely any Caribbean Sea, sleep. No outings outside the resort!!
They don’t even know what a Dominican looks like or if there’s anything besides coconut trees on the island!!!!!
It’s a choice I respect, but not mine.
From Agadir, some might have made the effort to head along the coast to Essaouira or take a little trip to Imouzzer-des-Ida-Outanane. I won’t even mention Tafraoute or Taroudant, etc. ...
All of it so beautiful and enriching.
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It's all-inclusive, all because of certain tour operators who keep their tourists within the walls, seeing nothing of the city except the trip between the airport and their hotel. They're turned off by the food and binge on free booze, rushing at it like they're starving, to the point of vomiting all night as if they'd just come from Biafra. That's what Tunisia was like, from what those who went there told me.
Club Med is the same: show-offs who bring their designer clothes, talk loudly, go clubbing, sleep with anyone—even if they're married with their spouse right there—and, most importantly, never set foot outside. The buffets don’t even reflect the local cuisine.
With that kind of mentality, you might as well stay home. Fortunately, there are still adventurers, backpackers, and lovers of discovery in the countries they visit.
Club Med is the same: show-offs who bring their designer clothes, talk loudly, go clubbing, sleep with anyone—even if they're married with their spouse right there—and, most importantly, never set foot outside. The buffets don’t even reflect the local cuisine.
With that kind of mentality, you might as well stay home. Fortunately, there are still adventurers, backpackers, and lovers of discovery in the countries they visit.
Yes, broadly speaking, let's say:
- There are those who go on vacation (chilled or wild!!) - Those who do tourism, trying to understand what’s around them (partiers or not!!) - And those who do both (etc.!!)
Each to their own, depending on their budget, personality, and tastes. No judgment on partying, but not at the expense of enriching yourself through contact with new worlds. Tunisia?? I had planned (last year) for my fall/winter trip to go to Tunisia and Libya. Changed my mind—I barely dare say it, so as not to jinx them—heading to Bulgaria and Turkey instead for 4/5 months. Tunisia?? Still worth visiting, but it’s nothing like the richness of Morocco, and above all, avoid all the tourist traps like Agadir. On the other hand, one of my biggest regrets will be not having been able to visit Algeria. Amazing, from everything I’ve heard!! I’ll go dig around the forums on this topic.
- There are those who go on vacation (chilled or wild!!) - Those who do tourism, trying to understand what’s around them (partiers or not!!) - And those who do both (etc.!!)
Each to their own, depending on their budget, personality, and tastes. No judgment on partying, but not at the expense of enriching yourself through contact with new worlds. Tunisia?? I had planned (last year) for my fall/winter trip to go to Tunisia and Libya. Changed my mind—I barely dare say it, so as not to jinx them—heading to Bulgaria and Turkey instead for 4/5 months. Tunisia?? Still worth visiting, but it’s nothing like the richness of Morocco, and above all, avoid all the tourist traps like Agadir. On the other hand, one of my biggest regrets will be not having been able to visit Algeria. Amazing, from everything I’ve heard!! I’ll go dig around the forums on this topic.
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Algeria is a beautiful country. In the north, you've got the Mediterranean coast, which is really nice, and the south is stunning. The big cities have that oriental charm mixed with the French Belle Époque style.
Tlemcen – the Fez of Algeria Djelfa Timimoun Tamanrasset
Those who’ve been there don’t regret it. Sidaho will give you great tips—he’s a goldmine, and bravo for knowing so much at his age! 😎
For Morocco, there’s something for every taste and budget. It’s still a fascinating country with a high return rate and great feedback. The first page of this forum perfectly reflects its current popularity, given all the posts dedicated to it. 😉
Fifteen years ago, Tunisia used to receive a lot of French visitors. But when they came here, they admitted that Morocco was (and still is) better in terms of cuisine, art of living, crafts, and especially landscapes. In the middle of the desert, you can admire snow-capped peaks, head to the Sahara near Tan-Tan, have morning fog and cold while fishing for monster fish with dunes behind you. 😮
As the saying goes, "Everything comes to those who wait." We’ve now surpassed 10 million visitors. Huge tourism projects have either launched or are underway, even during the crisis. Roads are being paved, guesthouses are popping up in the middle of nowhere...
Enjoy your stay among us! 🙂
Tlemcen – the Fez of Algeria Djelfa Timimoun Tamanrasset
Those who’ve been there don’t regret it. Sidaho will give you great tips—he’s a goldmine, and bravo for knowing so much at his age! 😎
For Morocco, there’s something for every taste and budget. It’s still a fascinating country with a high return rate and great feedback. The first page of this forum perfectly reflects its current popularity, given all the posts dedicated to it. 😉
Fifteen years ago, Tunisia used to receive a lot of French visitors. But when they came here, they admitted that Morocco was (and still is) better in terms of cuisine, art of living, crafts, and especially landscapes. In the middle of the desert, you can admire snow-capped peaks, head to the Sahara near Tan-Tan, have morning fog and cold while fishing for monster fish with dunes behind you. 😮
As the saying goes, "Everything comes to those who wait." We’ve now surpassed 10 million visitors. Huge tourism projects have either launched or are underway, even during the crisis. Roads are being paved, guesthouses are popping up in the middle of nowhere...
Enjoy your stay among us! 🙂
😉 Raoulx!!!!!! Just a bit of nostalgia................. Can't wait for August to dive back into deep Morocco!!!!!!!!!!!
Good evening to you! 🙂
Another little piece of France in the "deep" Morocco I love: in Imilchil
Another little piece of France in the "deep" Morocco I love: in Imilchil
" Nous ne saurons jamais tout le bien qu'un simple sourire peut être capable de faire."
Mère Teresa
About Franck, when coming down from Meknes to reach Merzouga, in a straight line, you pass through Midelt, Er-Rachidia, Erfoud, Rissani, then Merzouga—a dead end.
On the way back, if I understood correctly, Er-Rachidia, then a left turn toward the Todra and Draa roads, followed by Ouarzazate.
Having done both—Merzouga and Tagounite/M'hamid—though slightly different, with similar dunes and bivouacs, I’d suggest two different options:
- A few dozen kilometers before arriving in Midelt, take a right to head toward Imilchil, then loop back slightly to descend and enter the Todra Gorges from the north, and at the exit, take a right to visit the Draa Gorges. Then your famous valley and the roses all along the Draa as you head down to Ouarzazate.
- Or Midelt, south toward Er Rachidia, then a right turn toward Goulmima, the Todra Gorges, then the Draa Gorges, the Valley of Roses, and back to Ouarzazate.
In both cases, from Ouarzazate, head south to Agdz, Zagora, Tamegroute (with its magnificent and authentic green faience pottery), Tagounite—my go-to spot that I always return to—and M'hamid. Tagounite/M'hamid is roughly on par with Merzouga, and from there, ................ but it’s 12:04 AM, and I’m going to keep traveling in my bed. To be continued in the next episode. Bye
In both cases, from Ouarzazate, head south to Agdz, Zagora, Tamegroute (with its magnificent and authentic green faience pottery), Tagounite—my go-to spot that I always return to—and M'hamid. Tagounite/M'hamid is roughly on par with Merzouga, and from there, ................ but it’s 12:04 AM, and I’m going to keep traveling in my bed. To be continued in the next episode. Bye
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Hi,
What do you think of this itinerary? I tried to take inspiration from your tips and my own travel wishes, but on the map I don’t see either TODRA or DRAA. Am I far from them on my route, or not? Because if I go that way, it’d be a shame to take a road with no interesting sights and miss out on beautiful landscapes.......................... Do you know roughly how many kilometers this itinerary is?
I don’t know northern Morocco well enough to give you advice.
But overall, I think you’ve planned to pass through Chefchaouen, Volubilis, Fez, Meknes, Azrou, and Midelt.
I think that’s a great choice.
From Midelt on, I know the area well, and the descent via Rich, Er Rachidia, Erfoud, Rissani, and Merzouga is stunning.
I won’t list all the sights along this route—check a guide to make your own choices, or we can talk about it whenever you like.
I’m not the gospel truth. I don’t know everything, and I have my own tastes. Others will certainly add their insights, I hope.
By the way, in Midelt, ask where the Catholic sisters’ convent is (not well known). They run a school teaching embroidery on fabric (like in Madagascar, just as beautiful on the front as the back) and traditional weaving, helping young Moroccan women learn these arts and improve their circumstances.
They also shelter the last surviving monks from the ???? convent in Algeria (darn, I can’t remember the name—unforgivable), where the rest of the community was massacred.
The dates from the Rissani palm grove are among the best in Morocco.
In principle, you won’t be able to take the TRACK from Merzouga to Alnif with your Popo. Unless they’ve redone the track since. No regrets, though.
For the Todra Gorge (actually Todgha) and the Dades Gorge, you’ll pass right by.
From Merzouga, head back up:
- Either to Erfoud and then due west toward Tinghir, the entrance to the Todra Gorge, if the road is good.
- Or, if not, to Er Rachidia and then west via Goulmima and Tinghir.
It’s a marvel. Drive up for twenty or thirty kilometers, then turn around toward Tinghir, head west to Boumalne Dades, and then north to the Dades Gorge.
Turn back toward Boumalne and head to Ouarzazate. The first twenty or thirty kilometers are rough because you don’t leave the towns and their chaos (pedestrians, taxis, etc.).
From Merzouga, unless you have a 4x4, this is the most beautiful route.
I’ll probably annoy you again, but from Ouarzazate to Agadir, starting at Taznakht (famous for its carpets), it’s the Sous Valley, which holds no interest for me.
If your schedule allows, from Taznakht, head south to Foum Zguid, then west to Tata. From Tata, go toward Igherm and descend to Taroudant. You won’t believe how beautiful it is—a succession of completely different landscapes. I go there every chance I get, making little detours to villages on either side of the road.
And unfortunately, you’ll have to go to Agadir (yes, I know, very biased)....
Agadir to Essaouira along the coast is great (lots of people, for sure).
Essaouira, its medina (Popo bodywork touch-up there???), Marrakech (highway, or rather a fast four-lane road now finished).
No need to explain—it’s a must, even if it’s not my cup of tea after visiting.
Then, if your schedule allows, Safi and its white-and-blue ceramics (the authentic ones, not the gaudy ones), its medina, the remains of the fortifications, and a bit of the Portuguese cathedral. Yes, it’s nice.
But I’d recommend heading from Marrakech to El Jadida instead—its fortified Portuguese citadel and underground cistern are really worth seeing.
If you have time, Safi and El Jadida, of course.
Highway to Casablanca.
About ten kilometers after El Jadida on the way to Casablanca, there’s another small coastal town with a beautiful Portuguese citadel.
Casablanca, okay.
Then Casablanca to Tangier—direct, in my opinion.
Keep moving, there’s nothing to see (just my opinion, as always).
I couldn’t give you more details, or I’d still be writing tomorrow.
I’m here if you need anything, anyway.
See you later,
Alain
"Il vaut mieux faire des enfants quand on est vieux, on les em...de moins longtemps (Desproges)
Hi there,
How much time do you have from Tangier to Tangier?
Otherwise, quickly, your route makes sense. Just a few quick corrections: from Safi to Tangier, avoid places like Settat and Souk el Arba, and stick to the coast, which is really nice with Kenitra, Moulay Bousselham, Larache, and Asilah—it’s a refreshing change after your inland trip.
In 15 days, it’s doable without any frills. In 3 weeks, you can add some cool little extras: Tangier to Chefchaouen via Tetouan and Oued Laou. Reach the Dades Valley via Goulmima and the Gheris Gorges. Ouarzazate to Agadir via Taliouine and Taroudant—a gorgeous route. We can talk more about it....
How much time do you have from Tangier to Tangier?
Otherwise, quickly, your route makes sense. Just a few quick corrections: from Safi to Tangier, avoid places like Settat and Souk el Arba, and stick to the coast, which is really nice with Kenitra, Moulay Bousselham, Larache, and Asilah—it’s a refreshing change after your inland trip.
In 15 days, it’s doable without any frills. In 3 weeks, you can add some cool little extras: Tangier to Chefchaouen via Tetouan and Oued Laou. Reach the Dades Valley via Goulmima and the Gheris Gorges. Ouarzazate to Agadir via Taliouine and Taroudant—a gorgeous route. We can talk more about it....
Hey,
I’ve got a solid three weeks there!!!!!!! So I’m gonna mix the route I originally planned with some of the tips you all gave me—I think that’ll fill up a good three weeks with my wife and the two little ones!!!!
Thanks so much.................................For now😉 but I might be back in touch!!!!
See ya! Franck
See ya! Franck
Hi again,
So, adjusting my route with Raoulx’s tips (red route) and Lagardevicto’s (blue route), it looks like this now!!!!! Not counting any potential travel improvisations, this route seems pretty solid to me!
See ya!
See ya!
Totally agree with Raoulx.
If you still have time ahead of you, head back up to Tangier along the Atlantic coast—by far the best route.
The only minor difference, but really insignificant, is the Sous Valley in its last two-thirds before Agadir!!! Meh, the plain, the orchards, etc. ...
One variation: from Tazenakht, as Raoulx mentioned, head to Taliouine (the saffron, the real deal), a really beautiful route. And if the road is good, Taliouine to Igherm, then as before, down from Igherm to Taroudant and Agadir.
Or from Tazenakht, the variant passing through the desert’s edge, from Foum Zguid to Tata, then Igherm right in the heart of the Anti-Atlas, and Taroudant—it’s something else!!!!!
All in all, a splendid trip in store.
Alain
"Il vaut mieux faire des enfants quand on est vieux, on les em...de moins longtemps (Desproges)
hi there,
we’re also heading to Morocco this summer for the first time. We’re traveling in a converted Iveco with our little one, who’s 2—his first big trip. We’re still really unsure about the itinerary; we plan to stay for 3 weeks, maybe even 4. We were thinking of sticking to the Atlantic coast down to Essaouira for cooler temperatures, but seeing your route makes me wonder if we should head east instead, given the beautiful landscapes you find there.
how old are your kids? Have they traveled in the truck before?
what’s the temperature like in July/August around Merzouga-Ouarzazate? And what’s the road from Fès to Merzouga like?
thanks
Hey,
Regarding the road to Merzouga, I’ve never taken it, but from what I’ve read, it’s pretty good overall. Other forum members can give you better info than me on that!
My daughter is 9 and my son is 5—they’ve already traveled with my camper van (a 1978 model) two years ago all the way to Senegal, so we crossed the whole of Morocco and Mauritania with temperatures often hitting 40°C (104°F). They handled it really well and adapted super easily. My son was only 3 at the time, and honestly, there were no issues. You just need to plan accordingly—don’t drive when the sun’s blazing, etc.
I’m saying this even though I didn’t always follow my own advice on the whole trip—it’s definitely better to do it that way! Crossing Mauritania in the middle of the afternoon and the Diama track at night was a struggle and kinda scary in the moment, but it’s an amazing memory in hindsight. So go for it—you’ll be blown away by the experience, and maybe we’ll cross paths!
See ya, Franck
My daughter is 9 and my son is 5—they’ve already traveled with my camper van (a 1978 model) two years ago all the way to Senegal, so we crossed the whole of Morocco and Mauritania with temperatures often hitting 40°C (104°F). They handled it really well and adapted super easily. My son was only 3 at the time, and honestly, there were no issues. You just need to plan accordingly—don’t drive when the sun’s blazing, etc.
I’m saying this even though I didn’t always follow my own advice on the whole trip—it’s definitely better to do it that way! Crossing Mauritania in the middle of the afternoon and the Diama track at night was a struggle and kinda scary in the moment, but it’s an amazing memory in hindsight. So go for it—you’ll be blown away by the experience, and maybe we’ll cross paths!
See ya, Franck
What’s the temperature in July and August around Merzouga-Ouarzazate? How’s the road from Fes to Merzouga?
Thanks
Good evening,
In summer, it’s a real furnace between Ouarzazate and Merzouga—avoid that area from May to October. Even Moroccans faint just telling you about it 🤪
The road from Fes to Merzouga is winding. At first, you’ll have cool weather, a good road with landscapes like in the Vosges. But the closer you get to Rissani, the hotter it gets—really, really hot 🤪. The road narrows, winds even more, and you’ll see palm groves, dried-up wadis, kasbahs, etc.
Good evening,
In summer, it’s a real furnace between Ouarzazate and Merzouga—avoid that area from May to October. Even Moroccans faint just telling you about it 🤪
The road from Fes to Merzouga is winding. At first, you’ll have cool weather, a good road with landscapes like in the Vosges. But the closer you get to Rissani, the hotter it gets—really, really hot 🤪. The road narrows, winds even more, and you’ll see palm groves, dried-up wadis, kasbahs, etc.
Hi,
How hot does it get there? Because I’ll be there with my kids during the first two weeks of August. There must be certain hours when you should avoid driving, but with good planning, it should be doable!!!!! I drove down to Senegal in the middle of July, crossing all of Morocco and Mauritania, and it was really hot but manageable!!!!!!!! 😉
How hot does it get there? Because I’ll be there with my kids during the first two weeks of August. There must be certain hours when you should avoid driving, but with good planning, it should be doable!!!!! I drove down to Senegal in the middle of July, crossing all of Morocco and Mauritania, and it was really hot but manageable!!!!!!!! 😉
Hi,
When I lived in Morocco, I spent my summer vacations—July or August—traveling around the country, staying in mid-range hotels and even camping, and later with a young child. We have no bad memories of it. It can’t possibly be worse than Mauritania, which I crossed in June!
And the "extreme heat" isn’t a given! Some summers barely exceed 35°C, others are 10 degrees hotter—but those are rarer! And then there are the legends about 50°C... but that’s another story!
Still, I’d avoid Merzouga—it’s not very interesting if you can’t climb the dunes. Instead, try a great loop like Rich, Amellago, Tadighourst, Goulmima, for example—some altitude there. Or Goulmima, Tadighourdt, Amallago, Ait Hani, Tinghir.
And if there’s a real heatwave, a day’s drive and you’re by the sea!
When I lived in Morocco, I spent my summer vacations—July or August—traveling around the country, staying in mid-range hotels and even camping, and later with a young child. We have no bad memories of it. It can’t possibly be worse than Mauritania, which I crossed in June!
And the "extreme heat" isn’t a given! Some summers barely exceed 35°C, others are 10 degrees hotter—but those are rarer! And then there are the legends about 50°C... but that’s another story!
Still, I’d avoid Merzouga—it’s not very interesting if you can’t climb the dunes. Instead, try a great loop like Rich, Amellago, Tadighourst, Goulmima, for example—some altitude there. Or Goulmima, Tadighourdt, Amallago, Ait Hani, Tinghir.
And if there’s a real heatwave, a day’s drive and you’re by the sea!
hello
from 8 AM until sunset: 40°C and above
from nightfall until 8 AM: around 30°C
crossing Morocco and Mauritania, even in summer, means mostly following the coastline, which is flat for 2/3 of the route
what’s bearable for a Westerner are the temperatures like midday in Provence during summer, but inland—places like Tata, Guelmim, Zagora, Merzouga, and even Marrakech—it’s unbearable, you’ll see.
in Agadir during summer, for example, we get maritime breezes with cool evenings and sore throats if you’re not careful, while Taroudant, just 80 km away, is hell—it gets worse the closer you get 🤪
best times to drive: from 5 PM until sunset and from sunrise until 10 AM
I avoid venturing inland during summer myself, even though I’m a "local"—plus, in July and August, Moroccan expats return to their hometowns, clogging the roads. Moroccans also travel for tourism or to visit family in the villages.
from 8 AM until sunset: 40°C and above
from nightfall until 8 AM: around 30°C
crossing Morocco and Mauritania, even in summer, means mostly following the coastline, which is flat for 2/3 of the route
what’s bearable for a Westerner are the temperatures like midday in Provence during summer, but inland—places like Tata, Guelmim, Zagora, Merzouga, and even Marrakech—it’s unbearable, you’ll see.
in Agadir during summer, for example, we get maritime breezes with cool evenings and sore throats if you’re not careful, while Taroudant, just 80 km away, is hell—it gets worse the closer you get 🤪
best times to drive: from 5 PM until sunset and from sunrise until 10 AM
I avoid venturing inland during summer myself, even though I’m a "local"—plus, in July and August, Moroccan expats return to their hometowns, clogging the roads. Moroccans also travel for tourism or to visit family in the villages.
Hey Raoulx,
That’s cool, it reassures me at the same time—it’s exactly what I thought about the temps!!! About my itinerary, I won’t hide it from you, I’ve often heard that Merzouga has become a place packed with tourists, and honestly, my life philosophy makes me avoid tourist factories. That’s not my idea of travel, except sometimes you’ve got to play by the rules when you want to hit those must-see spots. I really want to do a camel trip in the real, good dunes with a little one-night bivouac in the desert—that’s why Merzouga is on my radar. Now, your experience and knowledge of Morocco really interest me regarding the route you’re suggesting. If there’s a detour through those famous dunes, I’d love it if you could tell me from which point my route would split off onto yours and where they’d meet up again?? (Uh, is that clear enough, or did you get me?) Also, I’d like to avoid gaining too much altitude with my old camper van!!!!!
See ya, Franck
See ya, Franck
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Bonjour aux amoureux du Maroc,
Avant toute chose: un grand merci à tous ceux dont on peut savourer les posts éclairés, marrants, vivants, dépaysants... Un bonheur de trouver de si jolies plumes sur ce forum, qui m'ont donné une foultitude d'idées et d'adresses pour préparer notre voyage.
Notre projet: sillonner le Maroc du 2 novembre au 4 déc. Nous aurons notre propre véhicule (Renault GrandScenic 2011, en très bon état), embarqué avec nous de Sète à TangerMed. Retour depuis Nador.
Notre profil: 75 et 62 étés, donc vieux mais contents de l'être, en très bonne santé. Habitués au voyage - c'est même toute notre vie. Amis des beaux paysages, des vieilles pierres, de l'artisanat soigné et des road trips. Ce sera mon 3e séjour au Maroc, mais le 1 et 2 remontent à 20 ans et 17 ans. Je ne suis jamais allée plus au nord que la ligne Essaouira-Marrakech (mais plus au sud, oui). Quant à mon mari, expat toute sa vie y.c. en pays musulmans, c'est sa première fois au Maroc.
C'est lui qui conduit. Il est très expérimenté, prudent, pas forcément rapide, mais habitué à la conduite dans tous les états (et Etats, yc les plus créatifs sur la route). Mais je ne veux pas le fatiguer et il ne conduit plus de nuit (et on sera en novembre).
J'ai pris le parti de lui faire voir un peu de tout en faisant un road-trip par de belles petites routes, avec des trajets en moyenne de 180-200 km/jour (sauf si autoroute, mais ce sera rare), régulièrement entrecoupés de jours de pause. Je compte une vitesse de 40 à 50 km/h, plus arrêts/visites sur le trajet.
Comme j'ai bien tout lu plein de posts, j'en arrive à des questions assez précises.
1) En provenance directe de Rabat par autoroute, nous préférons zapper Marrakech*. Néanmoins, il faudra bien dormir quelque part autour. On partira le lendemain direction Skoura. Quelqu'un aurait-il une adresse bien positionnée pour ce trajet, év. à l'est de Marrakech ? Nous recherchons idéalement dans une petite ville, facile à se garer, un hébergement propre (minimum) au confort moyen (ou plus si ça se trouve), un peu chauffé et si possible joli et/ou sympa - mais il s'agit avant tout de bien dormir, de se laver à l'eau tiède (idéalement chaude) et de dîner correctement.
(*Explication du "no-go" à Marrakech: certes c'est malheureux, parce qu'il y a de bien belles choses dans cette ville, mais je crois que l'ambiance ne va pas nous plaire - c'est un euphémisme pour "nous rebuter" / "nous faire fuir" / "nous traumatiser". Pas parce qu'il y a trop de monde et qu'on veut se distinguer des touristes, alors qu'on en fait partie, mais parce que le henné forcé sur votre main qu'on attrape, ou passer 10' tous les quarts d'heure à dire "non merci" à un guide, qui est autant guide que moi trapéziste, nous connaissant ça va nous faire du mal. Or, le pays est bien assez vaste et beau, et notre temps bien trop court, pour aller gâcher nos souvenirs quelques jours à peine après l'arrivée. Et je ne veux pas insulter l'avenir en braquant mon paisible époux, sinon il exigera de faire demi-tour et Sète en novembre, ça ne m'emballe pas plus que ça).
2) Quelle route direction Skoura (en 2 jours) ? Je vois 2 possibilités: soit par le col du Tichka, avec nuit à Telouet avant de rejoindre Skoura, soit par la R307/N23 depuis Demnate, avec nuit vers Megdaz avant descente à Skoura. Alors: col du Tichka ou R307/N23 ? J'ai un petit (grand) faible pour la 2e option, même si je sais que l'autre route est très belle aussi. Evidemment, avant de décider, on se renseignera sur la météo et l'état actuel de la R307/N23 - d'ailleurs, quelqu'un sait où obtenir l'info sur l'état de la route ? Mais même en admettant que la route "passe" bien, n'est-elle pas en soi un peu trop pénible ? Bref, est-ce bien raisonnable ? Si une bonne âme veut bien partager son expérience, mille merci d'avance.
Voilà, j'en ai assez écrit. Je laisse les autres questions pour d'autres posts. Encore merci à ceux qui ont eu la patience de me lire et à ceux qui pourront répondre. Joyeux dimanche à tous
Fran
Avant toute chose: un grand merci à tous ceux dont on peut savourer les posts éclairés, marrants, vivants, dépaysants... Un bonheur de trouver de si jolies plumes sur ce forum, qui m'ont donné une foultitude d'idées et d'adresses pour préparer notre voyage.
Notre projet: sillonner le Maroc du 2 novembre au 4 déc. Nous aurons notre propre véhicule (Renault GrandScenic 2011, en très bon état), embarqué avec nous de Sète à TangerMed. Retour depuis Nador.
Notre profil: 75 et 62 étés, donc vieux mais contents de l'être, en très bonne santé. Habitués au voyage - c'est même toute notre vie. Amis des beaux paysages, des vieilles pierres, de l'artisanat soigné et des road trips. Ce sera mon 3e séjour au Maroc, mais le 1 et 2 remontent à 20 ans et 17 ans. Je ne suis jamais allée plus au nord que la ligne Essaouira-Marrakech (mais plus au sud, oui). Quant à mon mari, expat toute sa vie y.c. en pays musulmans, c'est sa première fois au Maroc.
C'est lui qui conduit. Il est très expérimenté, prudent, pas forcément rapide, mais habitué à la conduite dans tous les états (et Etats, yc les plus créatifs sur la route). Mais je ne veux pas le fatiguer et il ne conduit plus de nuit (et on sera en novembre).
J'ai pris le parti de lui faire voir un peu de tout en faisant un road-trip par de belles petites routes, avec des trajets en moyenne de 180-200 km/jour (sauf si autoroute, mais ce sera rare), régulièrement entrecoupés de jours de pause. Je compte une vitesse de 40 à 50 km/h, plus arrêts/visites sur le trajet.
Comme j'ai bien tout lu plein de posts, j'en arrive à des questions assez précises.
1) En provenance directe de Rabat par autoroute, nous préférons zapper Marrakech*. Néanmoins, il faudra bien dormir quelque part autour. On partira le lendemain direction Skoura. Quelqu'un aurait-il une adresse bien positionnée pour ce trajet, év. à l'est de Marrakech ? Nous recherchons idéalement dans une petite ville, facile à se garer, un hébergement propre (minimum) au confort moyen (ou plus si ça se trouve), un peu chauffé et si possible joli et/ou sympa - mais il s'agit avant tout de bien dormir, de se laver à l'eau tiède (idéalement chaude) et de dîner correctement.
(*Explication du "no-go" à Marrakech: certes c'est malheureux, parce qu'il y a de bien belles choses dans cette ville, mais je crois que l'ambiance ne va pas nous plaire - c'est un euphémisme pour "nous rebuter" / "nous faire fuir" / "nous traumatiser". Pas parce qu'il y a trop de monde et qu'on veut se distinguer des touristes, alors qu'on en fait partie, mais parce que le henné forcé sur votre main qu'on attrape, ou passer 10' tous les quarts d'heure à dire "non merci" à un guide, qui est autant guide que moi trapéziste, nous connaissant ça va nous faire du mal. Or, le pays est bien assez vaste et beau, et notre temps bien trop court, pour aller gâcher nos souvenirs quelques jours à peine après l'arrivée. Et je ne veux pas insulter l'avenir en braquant mon paisible époux, sinon il exigera de faire demi-tour et Sète en novembre, ça ne m'emballe pas plus que ça).
2) Quelle route direction Skoura (en 2 jours) ? Je vois 2 possibilités: soit par le col du Tichka, avec nuit à Telouet avant de rejoindre Skoura, soit par la R307/N23 depuis Demnate, avec nuit vers Megdaz avant descente à Skoura. Alors: col du Tichka ou R307/N23 ? J'ai un petit (grand) faible pour la 2e option, même si je sais que l'autre route est très belle aussi. Evidemment, avant de décider, on se renseignera sur la météo et l'état actuel de la R307/N23 - d'ailleurs, quelqu'un sait où obtenir l'info sur l'état de la route ? Mais même en admettant que la route "passe" bien, n'est-elle pas en soi un peu trop pénible ? Bref, est-ce bien raisonnable ? Si une bonne âme veut bien partager son expérience, mille merci d'avance.
Voilà, j'en ai assez écrit. Je laisse les autres questions pour d'autres posts. Encore merci à ceux qui ont eu la patience de me lire et à ceux qui pourront répondre. Joyeux dimanche à tous
Fran
Bonjour!
Avec nos deux ados, nous allons passer deux semaines au Maroc à la fin décembre-début janvier. Ce sera notre premier voyage plus "dépaysant", bien que nous ayons visité plusieurs pays jusqu'à maintenant. Vu l'abondance d'infos, je suis plutôt overwhelmed avec la préparation que ce voyage exige et j'avoue être un peu perdue quant à évaluer ce qui est réaliste de visiter ou pas en 2 semaines 😕 Tous vos conseils, retour d'expériences et suggestions sont donc ici les bienvenus!
- Quels endroits seraient à privilégier à cette période de l'année (j'ai vu que certains endroits étaient moins accessibles en hiver?) - Préférable de circuler de quelle façon ? (location d'auto, train, transport privé, autobus, etc.? -- à noter que nous aurons tout de même quelques valises!) - Niveau "sécurité", des zones à éviter? - Des suggestions de compagnies touristiques fiables (outre les grosses bannières de type "get your guide") qui offrent des excursions, ou encore des transports privés pour nous permettre de découvrir le pays? - Un itinéraire jouable en 2 semaines sans devoir changer d'hébergement aux 2 jours et apprécier la diversité du pays?
Un grand merci pour vos conseils!
Avec nos deux ados, nous allons passer deux semaines au Maroc à la fin décembre-début janvier. Ce sera notre premier voyage plus "dépaysant", bien que nous ayons visité plusieurs pays jusqu'à maintenant. Vu l'abondance d'infos, je suis plutôt overwhelmed avec la préparation que ce voyage exige et j'avoue être un peu perdue quant à évaluer ce qui est réaliste de visiter ou pas en 2 semaines 😕 Tous vos conseils, retour d'expériences et suggestions sont donc ici les bienvenus!
- Quels endroits seraient à privilégier à cette période de l'année (j'ai vu que certains endroits étaient moins accessibles en hiver?) - Préférable de circuler de quelle façon ? (location d'auto, train, transport privé, autobus, etc.? -- à noter que nous aurons tout de même quelques valises!) - Niveau "sécurité", des zones à éviter? - Des suggestions de compagnies touristiques fiables (outre les grosses bannières de type "get your guide") qui offrent des excursions, ou encore des transports privés pour nous permettre de découvrir le pays? - Un itinéraire jouable en 2 semaines sans devoir changer d'hébergement aux 2 jours et apprécier la diversité du pays?
Un grand merci pour vos conseils!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you: - Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why? - Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies. - Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car? - Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years. Have a great evening, Roberto
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you: - Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why? - Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies. - Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car? - Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years. Have a great evening, Roberto
hi, I just wanted to know the exchange rate for euros in Tunisia, thanks
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Hi there,
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Fouzi
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili? If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them. I didn’t find any info on the forum. Best,
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Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
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Hi everyone,
We're leaving in early October 2026 and planning to travel from the Aït Bougmez Valley ("Happy Valley") to Skoura/Ouarzazate via Demnate and the R307/N23 route.
Has anyone taken this road recently? Is it passable with a regular car (non-4x4), or is a 4x4 absolutely necessary? Are there any ongoing construction projects or degraded sections to be aware of?
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I'm looking for a pool to go to with my wife and my 8-year-old son in the Targa neighborhood of Marrakech, or near that area.
Thanks in advance for your help. didier
I'm looking for a pool to go to with my wife and my 8-year-old son in the Targa neighborhood of Marrakech, or near that area.
Thanks in advance for your help. didier
Hi there, 🙂
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities. Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Thanks
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities. Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Thanks
Based on your experiences, do you have a professional to recommend?
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency. If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling. We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback! Safe travels to all, Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency. If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling. We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback! Safe travels to all, Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi, I'm looking for a taxi from Dakhla airport to downtown Dakhla.
If you know a contact ?????
Hi there,
I’m looking for info about driving a vehicle in Tunisia.
Is it complicated?
Do I need an international driver’s permit?
Thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Any recommendations?
Have a great day
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Any recommendations?
Have a great day
It's all in the title.
Thanks in advance
Hi everyone,
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
I know there are experts on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
I know there are experts on this forum.
Thanks in advance
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.
hi,
I’m planning to take the SETE-TANGER ferry with my car.
No agency in my town sells tickets.
Has anyone done this before and can point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.
have a good day
I’m planning to take the SETE-TANGER ferry with my car.
No agency in my town sells tickets.
Has anyone done this before and can point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.
have a good day
Good evening, everyone!
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
I’m reaching out to gather your thoughts on an itinerary (10 days... or more?) I’d like to do at the beginning of June 🙂.
Just so you know, I’m planning to do this trip solo (25 years old), using only public transport and just a backpack. I’ve already been to Marrakech and climbed Mount Toubkal two years ago...
I’ll be arriving in Tangier. Day 1-2: Explore the city center, hike around Cap Spartel... Day 3: Stop in Tetouan Day 4-5-6: Chefchaouen and a day hike in the Rif Mountains Day 6-7: Discover the city of Fes (I’ve heard so many great things!!) Day 8: Stop in Meknes and possibly visit the historic site of Volubilis Day 9-10: Rabat (I’ve heard mixed things... some good, some bad) After that, I have the choice of heading back to Tangier for my return flight... or going down to Agadir (also a possible return flight) and extending my trip by 5 days :)
From what I can tell, everything is well connected by bus (CTM) or train (ONCF). Another question: Is the vibe in Moroccan youth hostels for meeting people the same as what you’d find in Western Europe?
Thanks in advance for your replies and your kindness! 😊
Tickets for entry to Majorelle Garden are only issued online via an official site
(though there are fraudulent sites out there). On the official site, they ask for legitimate info
(name, nationality, etc.). What made me go "hmm" was the request for both an email address
AND a password (with confirmation). Is this normal?
Thanks for your replies.
Hi there, a group of girlfriends and I are heading to Tunisia. We’d love to know how much cash we should bring for 6 days, considering everything’s already paid for at the hotel. Thanks for your tips!
Hi everyone! :)
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément