Retour de douze jours au Maroc
by Maurice75
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour a tous
Voila de retour apres 12 jours de vacance baladeuse au Maroc , apres un Paris Marakech par avion , arrivé a l heure sortie aeroport rapide , nous avons loués un Riad sur place pour 4 jours , accueuil sympa , prix correct pour la famille de 6 personnes , prestation de qualité , enfin rien a dire , Marakech apres les incontournables visites , ben oui apres 4 jours c est bon ça suffit , en fait c est vite fait mais 4 jours agreables sous une temp pas trop chaude , ensuite , avec l auto direction Taroudant , jolie petite ville ou nous avons visité l interieur pleins de ruelles ; les parking par contre sont squattés par des campings caristes qui ne se genent en rien et qui se rassemblent beatement en camp de romanichelles ( coté desagreable ) , cela enerve les locaux d apres notre restaurateur du jour et nous aussi il faut bien le dire
De la direction Tafraoute , la par contre le paysage est etonnant melange de roches escarpées , et de vegetation luxuriante , le village est certe minuscule mais l accueuil est au rendez vous , nous avons passés 2 nuits las bas et cela a ete dirons nous une etape de choix ,
Retour sur Agadir par la montagne , Tiznit avec son souck et ses bijoutiers vrai et faux en fait beaucoup de bijoux genre gout de chiotte Made In China , Tiznit est en fait sans grand interet , de la Route nationale droite et radarisée arret a Massa et son Oued sa lagune sa vegetation bien verte , nous avons dejeuner dans un resto gite LES DUNES , au bord de la mer , prix correct et superbe relais a recommander
et Route vers Agadir ou nous sommes restés j usqua la fin du voyage , temperature agreable , visite du souck Alahad ou les commerçants sont moins chiants qu a Marakech , la ville quand a elle est moche , la croisette jolie , la plage sympa du sable fin , des restos corrects , mais en dehors du secteur touristique , mon dieu que la ville est sale , des poubelles eventrées , des immondices sur trottoirs , et encore je ne veux pas etre desagreable et toute verité n est pas bonne a dire d apres ma grand mere ,
En fait Agadir est une ville qui ne correspond pas du tout aux brochures des tours operators , si ma foi si l on prend un sejours en club hotel la d accord je pense ,
bon apres cela retour apres lachage de la Logan de location ( exellente auto d ailleurs je crois que en Fr je vais cder cette auto )
Areport d Agadir ou cela se passe bien et zoup dans l avion et atterissage a Orly sous un chaud soleil
Bonne journée a tous
Bonjour,
Merci pour ce CR détaillé, mieux que le guide Michelin !!! qui donne envie d'y revenir.
@+ Michel T@
http://michel.talon.free.fr
a+ Michel T@
http://michel.talon.free.fr
SLT
Merci pour tes infos.🙂 On essaiera Massa on avait zaper!
Cordialement..............😎
Merci pour tes infos.🙂 On essaiera Massa on avait zaper!
Cordialement..............😎
Cha&Gab
Merci pour enfin voir un avis sans detours , ni beatitudes naives ,
Pour Massa les Dunes c est un havre de paix a prix low Cost dirons nous pour reprendre cette expression un peu galvaudée ,
Mais cet hotel c est impressionnant rapport prix qualité sans appels
Salut a tous
Bonjour ,
je connais l'hotel Les Dunes et c'est vrai , c'est très bien.
le seul hic , c'est pour y arriver !!! comment avez vous fais avec une logan entre la piste de cailloux et ensuite celle de sable?
si la ville d'Agadir n'est pas des plus propres , elle n'est pas non plus des plus sales le centre ville rien à dire , mais évidemment si vous allez vous balader dans les quartiers de "hlm" c'est une autre histoire , sauf que je ne vois pas l'intérêt de se balader dans ces endroits. je suppose que vous n'avez pas visités les "hlm" de Marrakech sinon vous auriez fait le même constat.
je connais l'hotel Les Dunes et c'est vrai , c'est très bien.
le seul hic , c'est pour y arriver !!! comment avez vous fais avec une logan entre la piste de cailloux et ensuite celle de sable?
si la ville d'Agadir n'est pas des plus propres , elle n'est pas non plus des plus sales le centre ville rien à dire , mais évidemment si vous allez vous balader dans les quartiers de "hlm" c'est une autre histoire , sauf que je ne vois pas l'intérêt de se balader dans ces endroits. je suppose que vous n'avez pas visités les "hlm" de Marrakech sinon vous auriez fait le même constat.
Salut ô madiran40
on dirait que tu cherches des poux dans la tête à maurice ? 😎😎😎
le seul hic , c'est pour y arriver !!! comment avez vous fais avec une logan entre la piste de cailloux et ensuite celle de sable?
Quant aux "hlm" de marrakech, on ne peut pas vraiment parler de ville sale, mais d'infrastructure inexistante ou inachevée, d'où cette apparence négligée, car les ramassages d'ordures existent bel et bien, sauf par endroits là où la construction n'a pas encore eu lieu, des décharges sauvages de gravas.
le seul hic , c'est pour y arriver !!! comment avez vous fais avec une logan entre la piste de cailloux et ensuite celle de sable?
Quant aux "hlm" de marrakech, on ne peut pas vraiment parler de ville sale, mais d'infrastructure inexistante ou inachevée, d'où cette apparence négligée, car les ramassages d'ordures existent bel et bien, sauf par endroits là où la construction n'a pas encore eu lieu, des décharges sauvages de gravas.
Bonjour,
Ce résumé est très concis et donne une bonne vision des endroits que vous avez visités... Pour ma part, je suis en adéquation avec votre sentiment sur Agadir... J'ose dire: sans intérêt aucun, si ce n'est les plages qui se trouvent à plusieurs kilomètres, c'est-à-dire l'océan.
Certains disent y venir pour sa relative fraîcheur en été, mais actuellement 46 degrés ( à l'ombre! )😕
Ce résumé est très concis et donne une bonne vision des endroits que vous avez visités... Pour ma part, je suis en adéquation avec votre sentiment sur Agadir... J'ose dire: sans intérêt aucun, si ce n'est les plages qui se trouvent à plusieurs kilomètres, c'est-à-dire l'océan.
Certains disent y venir pour sa relative fraîcheur en été, mais actuellement 46 degrés ( à l'ombre! )😕
Ut melius quicquid erit pati [...]. Dum loquimur, fugerit inuida aetas: carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero. Horace.
Pas sympa pour les policiers en service à Agadir, ça va sentir le poulet grillé partout.
🙂
Je n'ai pas encore remis le nez dehors, mais je m'apprête à sortir et pourrai te dire cela dès mon retour car je vais à la gare des cars et l'endroit en est truffé!
Je n'ai pas encore remis le nez dehors, mais je m'apprête à sortir et pourrai te dire cela dès mon retour car je vais à la gare des cars et l'endroit en est truffé!
Ut melius quicquid erit pati [...]. Dum loquimur, fugerit inuida aetas: carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero. Horace.
Bonsoir ,
je me pose une question , une seule : mais que viennent faire certaines personnes à Agadir alors qu'ils n'aiment pas cette ville?
moi quand je n'aime pas un endroit je n'y reste pas et je n'y retourne certainement pas
46° faut pas pousser😕
je me pose une question , une seule : mais que viennent faire certaines personnes à Agadir alors qu'ils n'aiment pas cette ville?
moi quand je n'aime pas un endroit je n'y reste pas et je n'y retourne certainement pas
46° faut pas pousser😕
Salut Daniele777,
ça doit être mon signe chinois ...... singe
mais là , il a pas fallu gratter longtemps pour les trouver .......
tout comme les 46° de je ne sais plus qui ....... enfin ça expliquerait le comportement de certains sur ce forum .......
ça doit être mon signe chinois ...... singe
mais là , il a pas fallu gratter longtemps pour les trouver .......
tout comme les 46° de je ne sais plus qui ....... enfin ça expliquerait le comportement de certains sur ce forum .......
apparement Maurice a voulu voir non ?
qui vous a dit qu il y retournera ??????
Bizarre votre post
cordialement ,
Bonsoir,
Info provenant des sites météo...J'ai parlé avec certains Gadiris, ils m'ont dit n'avoir jamais "vu" une telle chaleur ( je cite )
Info provenant des sites météo...J'ai parlé avec certains Gadiris, ils m'ont dit n'avoir jamais "vu" une telle chaleur ( je cite )
Ut melius quicquid erit pati [...]. Dum loquimur, fugerit inuida aetas: carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero. Horace.
Bonsoir ,
Moi non plus je n'ai jamais "vu" une telle chaleur à Agadir (42° au moment le plus chaud de la journée)
Donc quand certaines personnes disent préférer Agadir pour sa fraicheur l'été, ils ont raison , puisque cette chaleur est exceptionnelle en ce moment.
Moi non plus je n'ai jamais "vu" une telle chaleur à Agadir (42° au moment le plus chaud de la journée)
Donc quand certaines personnes disent préférer Agadir pour sa fraicheur l'été, ils ont raison , puisque cette chaleur est exceptionnelle en ce moment.
Ou avez vous lu que je m'adressai à Maurice75?
Et même si c'était le cas , il est pas assez grand pour répondre tout seul?
Bizarre votre intervention
Et même si c'était le cas , il est pas assez grand pour répondre tout seul?
Bizarre votre intervention
Bonsoir,
Bien-sûr, je ne conteste pas qu'Agadir soit fraîche habituellement en été, c'était une boutade, une ironie...🙂
Mais tu peux reconnaître que quand même aujourd'hui il a fait vraiment chaud, tout à l'heure, à 13 heures, il faisait 44 à l'ombre...mais cela va mieux le vent d'est s'en va...
Bien-sûr, je ne conteste pas qu'Agadir soit fraîche habituellement en été, c'était une boutade, une ironie...🙂
Mais tu peux reconnaître que quand même aujourd'hui il a fait vraiment chaud, tout à l'heure, à 13 heures, il faisait 44 à l'ombre...mais cela va mieux le vent d'est s'en va...
Ut melius quicquid erit pati [...]. Dum loquimur, fugerit inuida aetas: carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero. Horace.
vous avez bien dit quand on aime pas une ville on y va pas en gros c est ça ???
donc avant ne ne pas aimer il faut y aller non ???
c est tout
et pour Maurice il a peut etre ce Mr autre chose a faire que d etre derriere un clavier non ???
Sans rancunes
Mais ici chacun doit pouvoir s exprimer
christian , je ne m'adressai pas à maurice , mais à vous et l'autre personne qui habite pour le moment agadir
quand je lis vos interventions , il est clair que vous venez régulièrement à agadir , il est clair aussi que vous n'aimez pas cette ville
donc je vous repose la question , pourquoi y revenez vous ?
quand je lis vos interventions , il est clair que vous venez régulièrement à agadir , il est clair aussi que vous n'aimez pas cette ville
donc je vous repose la question , pourquoi y revenez vous ?
bien je vous repond
car j ai autre chose a faire il est vrai d etre a moduler avec un clavier d ordinateur
Agadir en tour operator oui c est tres bien , ne pas sortir de la zone touristique pour ma part car la ville est laide , sale tres sale , j ai en effet arpenté la ville a pied histoire de voir hors des sentiers dirais je battus ,
Conclusion sans interet et bon courage aux eboueurs pour embarquer les immondices en vrac
Cela me rappelle Le Caire , ou presque Delhi
Les brochures par contre des hotels clubs sont bien faites et refletent bien les services proposés et ce en general ,
Il ne faut pas tous denigrer non plus bien sur , par contre au chapitre du positif le temperature a agadir est toujours agreable comparée a Marakech ou c est vraiment insupportable
Pour mon petit post sur Massa , il est vrai qu avec une auto de tourisme on peut se rendre aux Dunes ( hotel resto ) certe avec du mouvement , mais ça passe tres bien apres cela non c est sur , il y avait le jour dis une 406 , une Logan bien sur pour cause , Une Clio , et une Citroen Xantia de touristes Hollandais pourtant tres agés qui n avaient rien d un Sebastien Loeb
Voila
A tous tres bonne soirée deCavalaire ou il fait tres Beau
Et la prochaine fois au Maroc ce sera Ouarzazatte histoire de me faire mon cinema
😎😎
mais cher Monsieur , je ne voulais pas abuser de votre temps , d'autant plus qu'à aucun moment je ne me suis adressée à vous
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A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Bonjour,
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!