Retour d'Éthiopie, quinze jours en vallée de l'Omo
by Mimikita
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Nous voici rentrés de la vallee de l'omo.Ce fut un voyage extraordinaire, le meilleur periple que nous avons jamais fait.Notre agence ethiopienne fut exemplaire, et grace a elle nous avons pu passer 5 jours et 4 nuits dans un village hamer pres de turmi, et ça, je ne l'oublierai jamais.Je crois que notre agence est la seule a le proposer.
Notre chauffeur samuel et notre traducteur daniel se sont pliés en 4 pour nous :gentillesse, professionnalisme, connaissance du terrain, ponctualité, efficacité...
Nous avons fait le trajet awasa, dorzé, turmi (kolcho, omorate, dimeka) jinka, key afer, konso, arbaminch, butajira, addis.
Nous avons eu la chance d'assister au festival des peuples et tribues d'arbaminch ou 56 tribues etaient représentées telles que les surma, bodis, dizi, silté, erythrée, oida, sidama....
Si vous avez des questions sur les trajets, etats des routes, hotels ou autres, n'hesitez pas, je vous repondrai .
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Bonjour ! Moi aussi je reviens d'Ethiopie, et notamment du sud... Dites-moi donc quelle était cette super compagnie ? Et ce que vous avez fait dans ce village hamer 4 jours ? Vous dormiez sous tente ? Et à Turmi, où avez-vous dormi ?
Tous ceux qui vont en Ethiopie reviennent enthousiastes...
Amicalement, Virginie
virginie
bonjour,
nous avons utilisé les services d'une agence française : la route des voyage, et sur place c'est l'agence ethiopienne bella abyssinia (je sais qu'il ne faut pas faire de pub mais nous en sommes tellement ravi que je la cite quand meme).
Nous avons dormi sous tente a ARNA un village a 2 km de turmi.nous avions un toukoul comme cuisine.
la journée nous partions en excursion ( marché de dimeka, marché de turmi, karos, dassanech) et les fins d'apres-midi nous tardaient pour revenir au village et jouer au uno avec les jeunes, mon mari jouait au foot avec eux .on se regalait de voir rentrer les troupeaux dans le coral et la traite des chevres. une vie simple mais tellement riche.
on se promenait dans les champs et on rencontrait des femmes hamer et on essayait de se comprendre. un accueil fabuleux.nous avons été invité a aller dans une case boire le bouna.nous avons offert 200kg de grains et 2 moutons que nous avons mangés tous ensemble, inoubliable !!
j'image que vous aussi cela vous a marqué !! l'omo est une region tellement dépaysante, a l'orée de nos codes.
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Rebonjour,
Oui moi aussi j'ai été marquée par l'Ethiopie, et pas seulement par le sud; de toutes les tribus que j'ai rencontrées, j'ai préféré les Hamer et les Banna. A Turmi j'ai campé, et j'ai eu la chance d'assister à un bulljump dans un village hamer. J'ai fait le même programme que vous, mais en logeant presque tous les jours dans un endroit différent. Pas de séjour dans un village (sauf un jour et demi pour le bulljump), mais si j l'avais demandé, c'était possible. D'ailleurs tout est possible en Ethiopie, et les lecteurs qui ne connaissent pas ce pays doivent le savoir. Et y aller !!
J'ai beaucoup entendu parler de Bella Abyssinia - notamment dans ce forum - pour ma part, j'avais Abey-roads, et j'ai été tout aussi satisfaite que vous. Je voyage seule, sans intermédiaire européen, et j'aime décider de mon programme moi-même. Tout cela pour encourager les hésitants à partir. Ce pays est fabuleux, le nord, le sud, l'est avec Harar...
Merci de votre réponse ! Amicalement, Virginie
virginie
un mois en ethiopie ce doit etre qqchose !! surtout le danakil et harar.
malheureusement nous n'avons pas assisté a un bull jump.mais ce n'est pas grave, l'essentiel etant de prendre le temps de s'impregner de l'ambiance.
je viens de lire vos impressions sur votre voyage, merci beaucoup.
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Merci pour vos impressions..j'y serai 24 jours fin 2010 avec Nomades, le projet est super...😎
Mon souci, ce sont les moustiques...Vos impressions et conseils à ce sujet ?
A Tahiti où je vis, nous avons des moustiques mais pas de palu...😠
Heremoana
Je profite de ce post' pour vous demander votre avis sur cet itinéraire proposé par l'agence bellaabyssinia.
Nous partons environ 3 semaines.
Est-ce que le programme ne vous semble pas trop chargé ?
1) Addis – Arba Minch : par Butajira, sur la route visite des stèles de Tiya classées au Patrimoine Mondial par l’UNESCO.
2) Arba Minch : visite du pays Dorze, de leurs cases "en obus" et des tisserands. Eventuellement, promenade sur le lac Chamo.
3) Arba Minch – Konso : visite de villages Konso et de leurs cultures "en terrasses". Possibilité de camping dans de la résidence du Roi Konso.
4) Konso –Turmi: par une route de crêtes et une belle descente dans la plaine de Weito.
5) Turmi : visite de villages Hamar et, selon le jour, du marché Hamar.
6) Turmi – Konso – Yabelo : arrivée en pays Borana.
7) Yabelo – Awasa : très beaux paysages, traversée des régions les plus fertiles du pays, en particulier du Sidamo, lieu de production du "moka". A l'arrivée, promenade sur les bords du lac d'Awasa, nombreux oiseaux.
8) Awasa – Dinsho : nuit en camping à côté du « Quartier Général » du "Bale Moutains National Park", pour observer les animaux à la tombée de la nuit et au lever du jour.
9) Bale : trek de la journée sur le « Dinsho Walking Trail » à la recherche (entre autres) des Nyalas (tous les mammifères existant en Ethiopie y sont présents à l'exception des singes geladas, environ 150 espèces d'oiseaux dont plus de 16 endémiques y ont été répertoriées).
10) Dinsho – Nazret : par Asela et le plateau d'Arsi, région d'origine des athlètes éthiopiens.
11) Nazret – Debre Birhan : possibilité de visiter quelques lacs de cratères autour de Debre Zeyit, petit détour par Koremash (environ 25 Km. aller et retour) pour admirer une somptueuse vue sur la vallée de l'Awash et les plaines Afar depuis ce village Amhara
12) Debre Birhan – Kombolcha : beaux paysages de hauts plateaux.
13) Kombolcha – Lalibela : visite de l'église Genata Mariam. 14) Lalibela : visite du site et des églises.
15) Lalibela – Gondar : beaux paysages proches de ceux que l'on peut voir dans le Tigré.
16) Gondar – Bahar Dar : visite du site, du sanctuaire Debre Birhan Selassie, des palais, des bains de Fasilidas.
17) Bahar Dar : promenade en bateau sur le lac Tana pour atteindre les îles et leurs monastères, visite du marché de Bahar Dar.
18) Bahar Dar – Dambacha : visite des chutes Tississat (les chutes du Nil Bleu).
19) Dambacha – Addis : par les gorges du Nil Bleu, paysages mouvementés, succession de plateaux et de descentes vers les fleuves et rivières.
20) Addis : visite de la ville.
Merci de vos commentaires
1) Addis – Arba Minch : par Butajira, sur la route visite des stèles de Tiya classées au Patrimoine Mondial par l’UNESCO.
2) Arba Minch : visite du pays Dorze, de leurs cases "en obus" et des tisserands. Eventuellement, promenade sur le lac Chamo.
3) Arba Minch – Konso : visite de villages Konso et de leurs cultures "en terrasses". Possibilité de camping dans de la résidence du Roi Konso.
4) Konso –Turmi: par une route de crêtes et une belle descente dans la plaine de Weito.
5) Turmi : visite de villages Hamar et, selon le jour, du marché Hamar.
6) Turmi – Konso – Yabelo : arrivée en pays Borana.
7) Yabelo – Awasa : très beaux paysages, traversée des régions les plus fertiles du pays, en particulier du Sidamo, lieu de production du "moka". A l'arrivée, promenade sur les bords du lac d'Awasa, nombreux oiseaux.
8) Awasa – Dinsho : nuit en camping à côté du « Quartier Général » du "Bale Moutains National Park", pour observer les animaux à la tombée de la nuit et au lever du jour.
9) Bale : trek de la journée sur le « Dinsho Walking Trail » à la recherche (entre autres) des Nyalas (tous les mammifères existant en Ethiopie y sont présents à l'exception des singes geladas, environ 150 espèces d'oiseaux dont plus de 16 endémiques y ont été répertoriées).
10) Dinsho – Nazret : par Asela et le plateau d'Arsi, région d'origine des athlètes éthiopiens.
11) Nazret – Debre Birhan : possibilité de visiter quelques lacs de cratères autour de Debre Zeyit, petit détour par Koremash (environ 25 Km. aller et retour) pour admirer une somptueuse vue sur la vallée de l'Awash et les plaines Afar depuis ce village Amhara
12) Debre Birhan – Kombolcha : beaux paysages de hauts plateaux.
13) Kombolcha – Lalibela : visite de l'église Genata Mariam. 14) Lalibela : visite du site et des églises.
15) Lalibela – Gondar : beaux paysages proches de ceux que l'on peut voir dans le Tigré.
16) Gondar – Bahar Dar : visite du site, du sanctuaire Debre Birhan Selassie, des palais, des bains de Fasilidas.
17) Bahar Dar : promenade en bateau sur le lac Tana pour atteindre les îles et leurs monastères, visite du marché de Bahar Dar.
18) Bahar Dar – Dambacha : visite des chutes Tississat (les chutes du Nil Bleu).
19) Dambacha – Addis : par les gorges du Nil Bleu, paysages mouvementés, succession de plateaux et de descentes vers les fleuves et rivières.
20) Addis : visite de la ville.
Merci de vos commentaires
un grand voyage commence toujours par un petit pas. ..............
Le programme me semble équilibré..
Vous ne visitez pas les tribus, ou peu...c'est pas plus mal... car en arrivant en groupe, on y est agréssés (pincés, insultés...) quand on refuse de les photographier....Stressant et décevant..
saut de vache... bien, mais certainemnt orchestré pour les touristes....
Ce n'était pas au programme mais proposé par le guide en cours de route...
Faut vite y aller avant que des hordes de touristes y débarquent.... Les contacts doivent être encore plus durs, cette année à cause de la sécheresse...
Bon voyage.. c'est un pays MAGIQUE....
Faut vite y aller avant que des hordes de touristes y débarquent.... Les contacts doivent être encore plus durs, cette année à cause de la sécheresse...
Bon voyage.. c'est un pays MAGIQUE....
Heremoana
Merci de me répondre mais nous partons en couple, sainte horreur des groupes organisés.
Donc programmme équilibré, est-ce que pour vous, il manquerait quelque chose à ce dernier ? Une visite ? Un plus ?
Merci
Donc programmme équilibré, est-ce que pour vous, il manquerait quelque chose à ce dernier ? Une visite ? Un plus ?
Merci
un grand voyage commence toujours par un petit pas. ..............
Je rajouterai "el sod" dans le sud et une petite balade au village Felasha vers Gondar, en souvenir de l'expédition Moise..
Cette année, plus sûre de moi, je quitte les tours opérators et vais sillonner l'Ouzbéquistan, sac à dos, avec 3 internautes rencontrés sur ce forum...Je m'en réjouis et on parle déjà d'autres voyages....
Voyageant seule, de Tahiti il me faut déjà rejoindre des groupes dans divers pays....c'est vrai qu'avec les tours opérators, c'est pas toujours le must...Au Mali, avec NF on n'était que 7 et on a pu modifier le programme, j'ai toujours choisi des groupes où on était peu nombreux...
J'innove cette année avec 3 routards confirmés....Départ dans 1 mois....
Heremoana
J'ai une amie qui en revient de l'Ouzbéquistan, elle en rêvait aussi depuis longtemps, je la verrais probablement ce WE
Elle est férue d'Histoire...
Tahiti 😕 ! Un jour peut-être mais le voyage est TRES cher de la vieille Europe ! Je rêve des Marquises...particulièrement
Mercii pour les infos, je note !🙂
Elle est férue d'Histoire...
Tahiti 😕 ! Un jour peut-être mais le voyage est TRES cher de la vieille Europe ! Je rêve des Marquises...particulièrement
Mercii pour les infos, je note !🙂
un grand voyage commence toujours par un petit pas. ..............
L'Ethiopie était un rêve et l'ouzbéquistan un autre....On va se régaler...à 4, plus facile de louer les taxis....
J'ai récolté plein de tuyaux pour l'ouzbéquistan sur ce forum....on passera d'abord 1 semaine en Khirghizie...
Tahiti, oui c'est cher .. voyage et coût de la Vie...Je pars 1 seule fois/an 2 à 3 mois et je circule un max.... Les Marquises en croisière sur l'Aranui c'est le must...il y a parfois des promos sympas....2000 €, c'est une belle promo....
Tahiti, oui c'est cher .. voyage et coût de la Vie...Je pars 1 seule fois/an 2 à 3 mois et je circule un max.... Les Marquises en croisière sur l'Aranui c'est le must...il y a parfois des promos sympas....2000 €, c'est une belle promo....
Heremoana
Chance de pouvoir partir si longtemps ! Mon employeur ne m'accorde qu'un mois/an 😠
Quelle heure est-il chez toi en ce moment ?
Chez nous, il est + de 23 H, demain boulot,
Beaucoup de plaisir à échanger avec toi
Quelle heure est-il chez toi en ce moment ?
Chez nous, il est + de 23 H, demain boulot,
Beaucoup de plaisir à échanger avec toi
un grand voyage commence toujours par un petit pas. ..............
Je pense que les commentaires doivent aussi être "équilibrés".
Dire que dans les tribus on est agressés, pincés, insultés, me semble une généralisation un peu hâtive.
Cela a peut-être été votre cas, mais précisez de quelles tribus il s’agit.
Quant au "saut des vaches" (ukuli), c'est une cérémonie rituelle et il est hors de question qu'elle soit "orchestrée pour les touristes".
Par contre, comme beaucoup de touristes souhaitent y assister que l'on fasse payer ne me semble pas anormal.
Vous devriez aussi essayer de savoir, sur la somme que vous avez payée, combien va à l'intéressé et combien à (ou aux) l'intermédiaire.
Il faut aussi savoir qu'en ce qui concerne les Hamer (puisque c'est d'eux qu'il s'agit) en dehors de ce "droit" et des quelques birrs que vous donnez éventuellement pour les photographier, les touristes ne leur apportent pas grand-chose. Ce que vous dépensez va essentiellement aux commerçants, qui ne sont pas Hamer.
Même au marché, parmi les vendeurs "d'objets ethniques", il y a de plus en plus de "gal" (Ethiopiens non originaires du Sud).
Je suis tout à fait d'accord pour dire que c'est un pays magique et qu'il faut y aller.
Voyager c'est rencontrer plus que voir.
Merci pour ces commentaires supplémentaires qui enrichissent la préparation du séjour.
D'autres questions :Voyager seuls mais en couple ne posent pas de pbls de sécurité ?3 semaines vous paraissent-ils suffisants pour avoir une bonne idée du pays ?Quels sont approximativement les tarifs d'hôtels (hôtels de catégorie moyenne) Combien faut il compter pour es repas d'une journée/personne ? Merci à vous
D'autres questions :Voyager seuls mais en couple ne posent pas de pbls de sécurité ?3 semaines vous paraissent-ils suffisants pour avoir une bonne idée du pays ?Quels sont approximativement les tarifs d'hôtels (hôtels de catégorie moyenne) Combien faut il compter pour es repas d'une journée/personne ? Merci à vous
un grand voyage commence toujours par un petit pas. ..............
Bonjour,
Voyager seuls mais en couple ne posent pas de pbls de sécurité ? Non, rien de bien spécial 3 semaines vous paraissent-ils suffisants pour avoir une bonne idée du pays ? Si sud et nord, non. L'un ou l'autre, oui. Quelques bémols pour la boucle nord complète et l'Omo si autres digressions. Pour le budget (hors 4x4 éventuel qui le "plombe littéralement), vous ne serez pas ruiné tant pour manger que pour dormir. Il va de soi que si vous visez les établissements de standing (peu nombreux) et que vous mangez dans les restaurants "du haut du panier", le budget est autre.
Michel
Voyager seuls mais en couple ne posent pas de pbls de sécurité ? Non, rien de bien spécial 3 semaines vous paraissent-ils suffisants pour avoir une bonne idée du pays ? Si sud et nord, non. L'un ou l'autre, oui. Quelques bémols pour la boucle nord complète et l'Omo si autres digressions. Pour le budget (hors 4x4 éventuel qui le "plombe littéralement), vous ne serez pas ruiné tant pour manger que pour dormir. Il va de soi que si vous visez les établissements de standing (peu nombreux) et que vous mangez dans les restaurants "du haut du panier", le budget est autre.
Michel
3 semaines vous paraissent-ils suffisants pour avoir une bonne idée du pays ? Si sud et nord, non. L'un ou l'autre, oui. Quelques bémols pour la boucle nord complète et l'Omo si autres digressions.
Merci
Du coup, je fais un stop sur cette phrase😕 Doutes.... Faut il en 3 semaines privilégier plus le sud....ou le nord ou risque t-on de juste survoler le pays dans l'itinéraire prévu plus haut ?
Merci
Du coup, je fais un stop sur cette phrase😕 Doutes.... Faut il en 3 semaines privilégier plus le sud....ou le nord ou risque t-on de juste survoler le pays dans l'itinéraire prévu plus haut ?
un grand voyage commence toujours par un petit pas. ..............
Bonsoir ,
voyant votre projet je vous donne mon humble avis ...
En voyageant en 4x4 on peut couvrir pas mal de distance en Ethiopie mais les routes ne sont pas toutes bonnes et il me semble qu' à vouloir passer 10 jours dans le sud et 10 dans le nord vous allez certes avoir un aperçu du pays mais vous allez surtout rouler beaucoup et rater pas mal de choses ...
Je vous conseillerai soit le sud plus à fond , avec les montagnes du Balé et éventuellement un saut vers Harrar
où
le nord ( la boucle de la route historique ) avec éventuellement un saut à Harrar
N'oubliez pas qu il y a de très beaux marchés à voir (certains jours de la semaine ) des paysages superbes ( massifs du BALE et des SIMIENS ) ou marcher un peu vous prendra quelques jours ...
voyant votre projet je vous donne mon humble avis ...
En voyageant en 4x4 on peut couvrir pas mal de distance en Ethiopie mais les routes ne sont pas toutes bonnes et il me semble qu' à vouloir passer 10 jours dans le sud et 10 dans le nord vous allez certes avoir un aperçu du pays mais vous allez surtout rouler beaucoup et rater pas mal de choses ...
Je vous conseillerai soit le sud plus à fond , avec les montagnes du Balé et éventuellement un saut vers Harrar
où
le nord ( la boucle de la route historique ) avec éventuellement un saut à Harrar
N'oubliez pas qu il y a de très beaux marchés à voir (certains jours de la semaine ) des paysages superbes ( massifs du BALE et des SIMIENS ) ou marcher un peu vous prendra quelques jours ...
chris06
Ok Chris, je note aussi, je vais revoir l'intinéraire
Merci de vos avis...avisés
A votre avis, que faut il privilégier? Le Nord, le Sud pour une 1ere ?
Oupss, je vais déclencher un débat là !
Merci de vos avis...avisés
A votre avis, que faut il privilégier? Le Nord, le Sud pour une 1ere ?
Oupss, je vais déclencher un débat là !
un grand voyage commence toujours par un petit pas. ..............
Je ne sais pas exactement à quelle période vous y allez mais :
le nord est très beau de mi-septembre à novembre ; la saison des pluies est terminée et le paysages sont très verts , on dirait la Normandie parfois !
Comparatif
Le NORD
c'est le pays des amharas et des tigréens , les gens sont très gentils et pas aussi harceleurs que dans le sud les églises sont magnifiques et la religion chrétienne orthodoxe rythme la vie des campagnes et des gens les paysages ont superbes en particulier le parc des monts Simiens mais tout le nord dans son ensemble regorge de très beaux paysages le lac Tana et sa région où se trouvent les sources du nil bleu , les monastères sur le lac ( attention certains sont inaccessibles aux femmes )la ville tropicale de Bahar Dar la région de Lalibella , le fief de l église chrétienne d'Ethiopie ...les monastères perchés dans les montagnes la route entre Lalibella et Sekota et le lac Maychew avec ses troupeaux qui paissent Mekele ville agréable et la région du Tigray , Hawzien les monastères perchés et le Danakil avec le volcan Erta Ale ( mais cette dernière région requiert des frais suplémentaires) Gondar et les monts Simiens repaire des babouins geladas et des paysages à couper le souffle , le point culminant le ras dashen 4700 m Le marché de Bati un incontournable ( seulement les lundis) tribus wolo et afar le petit village perché d'Ankober ( 3600 m ) dominant la dépression afar
Le SUD
c'est le pays des tribus : konsos , hammer , tsemai , arbore , bana , dasanetch , boranas , karo et les mursi ( que je ne vous conseille pas ) le rapport des photos/argent est omniprésent mais faut savoir passer outre et accepter le jeu ... on est vraiment dans un autre monde ici et les coutumes et traditions sont tenaces et vraies chaque ethnie est différente ...il vous faudra souvent prendre un guide local Les montagnes du BALE un tres beau parc d'altitude ( 4400 m au plateau de Sanetti ...) Nyalas , renard abyssin Arba Minch le lac chamo et les crocodilles XXL , le parc de Nechisar , le pays des Dorze à presque 3500m d altitude la route de Yabello à Awasa peuples très attachants le sud de Yabello , le pays des boranas , les puits chantants el Sod les forçats du sel
L EST et HARRAR
un monde à part très différent du reste du pays ...quelques jours suffisent pour l aller retour avec une halte a Awash
Difficile pour moi de vous donner une préférence ... Je dirais le nord est plus tranquille , très traditionnel , une Ethiopie surprenante , verte , un peuple attachant un circuit inoubliable ... Le sud c' est le grand dépaysement mais aussi plus dur ( pistes et peuples plus rudes ) c'est peu etre un peu plus l'image qu' attendent certains voyageurs de l'Afrique
Si l' Ethiopie vous accroche vous y reviendrez
Entre 2006 et 2009 j'y suis allé 5 fois ...
Comparatif
Le NORD
c'est le pays des amharas et des tigréens , les gens sont très gentils et pas aussi harceleurs que dans le sud les églises sont magnifiques et la religion chrétienne orthodoxe rythme la vie des campagnes et des gens les paysages ont superbes en particulier le parc des monts Simiens mais tout le nord dans son ensemble regorge de très beaux paysages le lac Tana et sa région où se trouvent les sources du nil bleu , les monastères sur le lac ( attention certains sont inaccessibles aux femmes )la ville tropicale de Bahar Dar la région de Lalibella , le fief de l église chrétienne d'Ethiopie ...les monastères perchés dans les montagnes la route entre Lalibella et Sekota et le lac Maychew avec ses troupeaux qui paissent Mekele ville agréable et la région du Tigray , Hawzien les monastères perchés et le Danakil avec le volcan Erta Ale ( mais cette dernière région requiert des frais suplémentaires) Gondar et les monts Simiens repaire des babouins geladas et des paysages à couper le souffle , le point culminant le ras dashen 4700 m Le marché de Bati un incontournable ( seulement les lundis) tribus wolo et afar le petit village perché d'Ankober ( 3600 m ) dominant la dépression afar
Le SUD
c'est le pays des tribus : konsos , hammer , tsemai , arbore , bana , dasanetch , boranas , karo et les mursi ( que je ne vous conseille pas ) le rapport des photos/argent est omniprésent mais faut savoir passer outre et accepter le jeu ... on est vraiment dans un autre monde ici et les coutumes et traditions sont tenaces et vraies chaque ethnie est différente ...il vous faudra souvent prendre un guide local Les montagnes du BALE un tres beau parc d'altitude ( 4400 m au plateau de Sanetti ...) Nyalas , renard abyssin Arba Minch le lac chamo et les crocodilles XXL , le parc de Nechisar , le pays des Dorze à presque 3500m d altitude la route de Yabello à Awasa peuples très attachants le sud de Yabello , le pays des boranas , les puits chantants el Sod les forçats du sel
L EST et HARRAR
un monde à part très différent du reste du pays ...quelques jours suffisent pour l aller retour avec une halte a Awash
Difficile pour moi de vous donner une préférence ... Je dirais le nord est plus tranquille , très traditionnel , une Ethiopie surprenante , verte , un peuple attachant un circuit inoubliable ... Le sud c' est le grand dépaysement mais aussi plus dur ( pistes et peuples plus rudes ) c'est peu etre un peu plus l'image qu' attendent certains voyageurs de l'Afrique
Si l' Ethiopie vous accroche vous y reviendrez
Entre 2006 et 2009 j'y suis allé 5 fois ...
chris06
Cela a peut-être été votre cas, mais précisez de quelles tribus il s’agit.
Surtout chez les Mursi, certaines personnes ne descendaient plus des 4/4 pour faire des photos....on aurait préféré de vrais contacts comme dans certains villages où on a assité à la prépaartion d'injeras.... Payer, oui c'est normal, mais j'aurais préféré payer au chef de tribu par l'intermédiaaire du guide....rien de naturel dans le sphotos qu'on apu prendre.. Dommage...
Quant au "saut des vaches" (ukuli), c'est une cérémonie rituelle et il est hors de question qu'elle soit "orchestrée pour les touristes". Par contre, comme beaucoup de touristes souhaitent y assister que l'on fasse payer ne me semble pas anormal. Vous devriez aussi essayer de savoir, sur la somme que vous avez payée, combien va à l'intéressé et combien à (ou aux) l'intermédiaire.
Ça n'était pas orchestré non plus, pour nous....la présence d'autant de touristes fausse certainement la cérémonie... C'est ce voyage et cette approche qui m'a décidée à voyager de moins en moins avec les tours opérators , je pars sac à dos, cette année....
Ce que vous dépensez va essentiellement aux commerçants, qui ne sont pas Hamer.
Je le sais bien....
Je suis tout à fait d'accord pour dire que c'est un pays magique et qu'il faut y aller.
J'y retournerai mais pas avec un tour opérator de France....
Surtout chez les Mursi, certaines personnes ne descendaient plus des 4/4 pour faire des photos....on aurait préféré de vrais contacts comme dans certains villages où on a assité à la prépaartion d'injeras.... Payer, oui c'est normal, mais j'aurais préféré payer au chef de tribu par l'intermédiaaire du guide....rien de naturel dans le sphotos qu'on apu prendre.. Dommage...
Quant au "saut des vaches" (ukuli), c'est une cérémonie rituelle et il est hors de question qu'elle soit "orchestrée pour les touristes". Par contre, comme beaucoup de touristes souhaitent y assister que l'on fasse payer ne me semble pas anormal. Vous devriez aussi essayer de savoir, sur la somme que vous avez payée, combien va à l'intéressé et combien à (ou aux) l'intermédiaire.
Ça n'était pas orchestré non plus, pour nous....la présence d'autant de touristes fausse certainement la cérémonie... C'est ce voyage et cette approche qui m'a décidée à voyager de moins en moins avec les tours opérators , je pars sac à dos, cette année....
Ce que vous dépensez va essentiellement aux commerçants, qui ne sont pas Hamer.
Je le sais bien....
Je suis tout à fait d'accord pour dire que c'est un pays magique et qu'il faut y aller.
J'y retournerai mais pas avec un tour opérator de France....
Heremoana
Bonjour,
J'ai le même souci que Chris06 pour vous conseiller une zone.
Je vais peut-être simplement rajouté que l'aspect "zoo humain" des ethnies de l'Omo peut poser problème pour certains voyageurs. C'est mon cas.
Suivez ses conseils, ils sont donné d'expérience.
Etant donné qu'il faut plusieurs vies pour découvrir toute l'Ethiopie, faites vous une raison et privilégiez une "région".
Y voyager au pas de course (même si vous avez votre propre 4x4) n'est pas une solution et potentiellement une vraie source de frustration.
J'y retourne (Butajira, Bale et Rift) à la fin octobre. Ce sera mon troisième voyage en Ethiopie depuis 2005.
Michel
J'ai le même souci que Chris06 pour vous conseiller une zone.
Je vais peut-être simplement rajouté que l'aspect "zoo humain" des ethnies de l'Omo peut poser problème pour certains voyageurs. C'est mon cas.
Suivez ses conseils, ils sont donné d'expérience.
Etant donné qu'il faut plusieurs vies pour découvrir toute l'Ethiopie, faites vous une raison et privilégiez une "région".
Y voyager au pas de course (même si vous avez votre propre 4x4) n'est pas une solution et potentiellement une vraie source de frustration.
J'y retourne (Butajira, Bale et Rift) à la fin octobre. Ce sera mon troisième voyage en Ethiopie depuis 2005.
Michel
..... Je vais peut-être simplement rajouté que l'aspect "zoo humain" des ethnies de l'Omo peut poser problème pour certains voyageurs. C'est mon cas.
C'est également mon cas. Le problème est surtout avec les Mursis. Malheureusement, je retrouverai la même chose avec les N'débélé en Afrique du sud et les Himbas en Namibie.
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C'est également mon cas. Le problème est surtout avec les Mursis. Malheureusement, je retrouverai la même chose avec les N'débélé en Afrique du sud et les Himbas en Namibie.
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Eh bien, sacré dilemne maintenant pour choisir 🙂
Nous sommes tentés par les 2 dur dur ....😕
On va vous relire et réfléchir !!!
Nous sommes tentés par les 2 dur dur ....😕
On va vous relire et réfléchir !!!
un grand voyage commence toujours par un petit pas. ..............
"Nous sommes tentés par les 2 dur dur ....😕 "
Avec trois semaines, envisager le nord et le sud est la plus mauvaise des idées. Vous n'allez en définitive ni "voir" le nord ni le sud... Survoler et encore... C'est une source potentielle de frustration. Choisissez une région et revenez ultérieurement.
Michel
Avec trois semaines, envisager le nord et le sud est la plus mauvaise des idées. Vous n'allez en définitive ni "voir" le nord ni le sud... Survoler et encore... C'est une source potentielle de frustration. Choisissez une région et revenez ultérieurement.
Michel
..... Je vais peut-être simplement rajouté que l'aspect "zoo humain" des ethnies de l'Omo peut poser problème pour certains voyageurs. C'est mon cas.
C'est également mon cas. Le problème est surtout avec les Mursis. Malheureusement, je retrouverai la même chose avec les N'débélé en Afrique du sud et les Himbas en Namibie.
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reste a addis faire la tourner des boites beaucoup plus marrant que les tribus a la noix.......
C'est également mon cas. Le problème est surtout avec les Mursis. Malheureusement, je retrouverai la même chose avec les N'débélé en Afrique du sud et les Himbas en Namibie.
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reste a addis faire la tourner des boites beaucoup plus marrant que les tribus a la noix.......
Pour ma part je vous conseille sans problème le nord, car le sud en 2011 est devenu impossible pour les touristes (un article de notre blog :
Key Afer: l'aventure..et les petites pépées!!
Prisonniers des guides a TurmiNous avions pris un guide et malgré celà nous avons été harcelé et même agressé par des guides locaux! Dans les villages, cela devient du "marché aux esclaves "où l'on aligne la population devant vous et vous devez choisir les plus belles pour les photos; c'est une honte!!!!ce n'est pas les quelques Birrs qu'on leur donne qui me pose un problème c'est cette façon de faire !
De toute façon l'argent ne va pas aux villageois, car le tarif de ces excursion est:
- 150 B pour le guide (qui le soir va se saouler à la bière ...avec notre copain Gérard)
- entre 50 et 80 B pour le chef de village ( qui attend le jour de marché pour acheter de la bière pour se saouler bien entendu!)
- entre 1 et 2 B la photo !!!! pour les villageois
Bon voyage quand vous aurez fait votre choix car ce pays est très beau
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Merci mais ça y est, c'est décidé, nous allons aller dans le nord.
Maintenant, on va préparer l'itinéraire
Maintenant, on va préparer l'itinéraire
L'histoire de la Terre a commencé sans l'homme et finira sans lui, comme dit le grand Levi-Strauss... Heureusement...
"Maintenant, on va préparer l'itinéraire"
Procurez-vous le Bradt. Bouquinez les chapitres qui couvrent cette partie du territoire. Regardez les discussions concernant le Nord, une grande partie parle de durée et de trajets Revenez ultérieurement si vous avez des questions précises dont vous ne trouvez pas réponse dans les nombreux posts consacrés au Nord.
Michel
Procurez-vous le Bradt. Bouquinez les chapitres qui couvrent cette partie du territoire. Regardez les discussions concernant le Nord, une grande partie parle de durée et de trajets Revenez ultérieurement si vous avez des questions précises dont vous ne trouvez pas réponse dans les nombreux posts consacrés au Nord.
Michel
Ok merci
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Cette réponse vaut aussi pour Heremoano.
Êtes-vous sûrs d'être allés dans le même pays que Mimikita et Vigounir (et moi) ?
S'il est vrai que le contact avec les Mursi est difficile, voire impossible pour un touriste qui ne fait que passer, les autes peuples du Sud (Hamer, Bashada, Bana, Karo, etc.) ne sont, normalement, ni agressifs, ni désagréables.
C'est du moins comme cela que je les ai rencontré d'assez nombreuses fois.
Evitons d'imputer à l'ensemble des peuples du sud de la vallée de l'Omo ce qui concerne essentiellement les Mursi.
Voyager c'est rencontrer plus que voir.
Cette réponse vaut aussi pour Heremoano.
Êtes-vous sûrs d'être allés dans le même pays que Mimikita et Vigounir (et moi) ?
S'il est vrai que le contact avec les Mursi est difficile, voire impossible pour un touriste qui ne fait que passer, les autes peuples du Sud (Hamer, Bashada, Bana, Karo, etc.) ne sont, normalement, ni agressifs, ni désagréables.
C'est du moins comme cela que je les ai rencontré d'assez nombreuses fois.
Evitons d'imputer à l'ensemble des peuples du sud de la vallée de l'Omo ce qui concerne essentiellement les Mursi.
Oui, je suis tout à fait d'accord avec vous ..... le contact est difficile avec les mursis et uniquement avec eux.
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Oui, je suis tout à fait d'accord avec vous ..... le contact est difficile avec les mursis et uniquement avec eux.
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Oui je pense que nous n'avons pas été dans le même pays:le mien se parcourait en bus, minibus ou camion, et non pas en 4/4 réservé au riches touristes à qui l'on fait de beaux sourires
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Je ne suis probablement pas plus riche que vous.
Je vais en Ethiopie depuis environ 12 ans, 2 fois par an et à peu près 2 mois à chaque séjour.
A chaque voyage je commence par 2 semaines en pays Hamer, Bashadas, Karo, Dassanecht, Bana, ...
C'est vrai que l'on me fait des sourires. Serait-ce parce que j'ai commencé ?
Je dois préciser que chez les Kanoua, Bertoua, Gumuz ou Afar, c'est à peu près pareil. Je mets à part les Mursi pour qui je n'ai pas beaucoup d'affection.
Je dois aussi dire que je ne paie jamais pour les photos.
Pensez-vous que les images jointes sont "achetées".
Voyager c'est rencontrer plus que voir.
Nominanda, le lien vers votre site ne fonctionne pas ! 😕
L'histoire de la Terre a commencé sans l'homme et finira sans lui, comme dit le grand Levi-Strauss... Heureusement...
Je vais en Ethiopie depuis environ 12 ans, 2 fois par an et à peu près 2 mois à chaque séjour.
2 fois 2 mois de 4/4 à 120€ par jour....j'aimerai bien avoir vos moyens ....!
Pensez-vous que les images jointes sont "achetées".
Non, car lorsque l'on paye pour une photo, on a pas de sourire et c'est compréhensible car cela ressemble beaucoup aux marchés aux esclaves avec toutes ces femmes alignées qui atendent d'être choisie! Mais j'ai les même photos que vous (aussi naturelles) en ayant payé pour leur cérémonie de OUKOULI (ce qui est normal!) ou bien en en prenant dans les marchés
2 fois 2 mois de 4/4 à 120€ par jour....j'aimerai bien avoir vos moyens ....!
Pensez-vous que les images jointes sont "achetées".
Non, car lorsque l'on paye pour une photo, on a pas de sourire et c'est compréhensible car cela ressemble beaucoup aux marchés aux esclaves avec toutes ces femmes alignées qui atendent d'être choisie! Mais j'ai les même photos que vous (aussi naturelles) en ayant payé pour leur cérémonie de OUKOULI (ce qui est normal!) ou bien en en prenant dans les marchés
http://www.patetnat-envoyage.com
Venez voyager avec nous en nous suivant aux quatre coins du monde sur notre blog....
http://www.patetnat-envoyage.com
Venez voyager avec nous en nous suivant aux quatre coins du monde sur notre blog....
Quand on n'est pas très riche, il faut savoir calculer.
Il y a maintenant quelques années, je payais 100 euros par jour. Comme je savais que j'allai venir dans ce pays longtemps, j'ai fait un petit calcul. En achetant un véhicule d'occasion (10 ans) qui ne serait pas soumis à la même taxation que les plus récents, je pouvais l'amortir en 3 à 4 ans.
J'ai pris le pari que je viendrai dans ce pays plus longtemps et j'ai acheté un 4x4.
Actuellement, mes séjours me coûtent le transport aérien et la vie sur place (qui, comme vous le savez n'est pas chère).
Ma plus grosse dépense est l'aide que j'apporte à 3 villages du Sud (Hamer et Bashada) et 1 du Nord (Tigréen).
Si je devais payer 12000 euros par an pour louer un véhicule... je ne viedrais probablement pas tous les ans et surement pas 2 fois 2 mois.
Voyager c'est rencontrer plus que voir.
J'ai un ami qui voyage aussi ainsi mais pour un village de la Casamance !
Effectivement, il y va souvent et longtemps !
Effectivement, il y va souvent et longtemps !
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Hello everyone!
It's been a year since I've been longing for South Africa. Our first trip in August 2025 amazed us, and—rarely—it was a unanimous hit with our little family! We were touched to the core, and from the moment we got home, we couldn’t stop talking about going back. 😄
I’d like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who gave me advice on the itinerary for that first trip (Johannesburg loop: Blyde, Kruger, Eswatini, St. Lucia, Durban, Drakensberg)! Thanks to you, our trip went like a dream!
Since then, I haven’t stopped reading articles and discussions on VoyageForum to keep my head in South Africa a little longer!
So, we finally caved and just booked our tickets for January 2027 (from the 3rd to the 26th), with a plan to do a road trip from Cape Town to Johannesburg in about 3 weeks.
I’ve got a rough itinerary that seems great based on what I’ve read on various forums, but there are still some uncertain points, and that’s where I could use your advice.
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM 4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing 5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?) 8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...) 9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?) 11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!) 13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure) 16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...) 18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP 21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!) 22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now... I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments... Can’t wait to be back there again!
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM 4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing 5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?) 8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...) 9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?) 11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!) 13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure) 16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...) 18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP 21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!) 22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now... I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments... Can’t wait to be back there again!
Bonjour,
A lire attentivement par tous ceux qui vont partir au Kenya ou en Tanzanie, dans les mois à venir .
https://www.corsematin.com/article/francemonde/70999544524516/lonu-prevoit-un-el-nino-de-tres-forte-intensite-ces-cinq-prochains-mois
En nov./ déc. 2022, j’avais fait un safari dans la région et nous avions souffert des températures extrêmes engendrées par le phénomène “El Nino” sur l’océan Indien à cette époque . En plus des T. extrêmes, il peut y avoir des pluies diluviennes , avec crues etc ... qui ont engendré des catastrophes avec victimes .
A prendre en compte (éventuellement ).
Salutations . ...
A lire attentivement par tous ceux qui vont partir au Kenya ou en Tanzanie, dans les mois à venir .
https://www.corsematin.com/article/francemonde/70999544524516/lonu-prevoit-un-el-nino-de-tres-forte-intensite-ces-cinq-prochains-mois
En nov./ déc. 2022, j’avais fait un safari dans la région et nous avions souffert des températures extrêmes engendrées par le phénomène “El Nino” sur l’océan Indien à cette époque . En plus des T. extrêmes, il peut y avoir des pluies diluviennes , avec crues etc ... qui ont engendré des catastrophes avec victimes .
A prendre en compte (éventuellement ).
Salutations . ...
Nous revenons de dix jours en Tanzanie. Nous avons eu la chance d’être guidés par Gishaman. Toujours de bonne humeur, bon conducteur et très bon guide. Grâce à lui nous avons eu la chance de voir non seulement les big5 en une journée mais aussi plein d’autres animaux. Il travaille pour l’agence locale Blit Safaris qui a assuré un très bon suivi de notre voyage. À conseiller !
Hi there,
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
Hi everyone,
We’re revising our travel plans for January 2027. Originally, we were considering Uganda for about 14/15 days, but given the current health situation and the restrictions that might affect my partner, who’s American, we’ve decided to switch to Tanzania instead.
I’m used to traveling in South Africa and organizing my trips myself, but I get the impression that planning a safari in Tanzania is quite different.
I know self-drive isn’t really an option in Tanzania. So my main question is: can you organize your own itinerary and book lodges directly, then hire a local driver-guide? Or is it better to go through a local agency that handles the entire safari?
For the itinerary, which parks would you recommend for a first-time visit in January? Serengeti, Ngorongoro, Tarangire, Manyara, Ruaha, Arusha, Selous…
We’d also like to include Zanzibar to end the trip with a few days at the beach. Over 14/15 days, does that sound realistic or too ambitious?
Finally, for flights, is it better to arrive at Kilimanjaro (JRO) or Dar es Salaam (DAR) based on the itinerary we’re considering?
Thanks in advance for your feedback, especially on the best way to organize the safari and which parks to prioritize in January!
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
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Just returned from a three-week family trip to Kenya (with three kids aged 10, 12, and 15), and I wanted to share my experience. Forums were super helpful in planning this trip, especially if you want to get a bit off the beaten path.
First off, Kenya is an amazing destination with incredibly friendly and welcoming locals. It was easy to travel around because you can always find someone to give you directions or help you out.
For practical tips—though you’ve probably read this elsewhere—get a Safaricom SIM card when you arrive at the airport so you can pay via M-Pesa (you can top it up with a credit card using the Wise app) and chat with people on WhatsApp. It’ll make your life *so* much easier (booking trains, buses, park entries, etc.) and save you from carrying too much cash or hunting for ATMs.
Also, we went during the first three weeks of July, which wasn’t peak tourist season.
One thing to note: even if you’re using public transport and budget accommodations, Kenya can still be pricey because tourist attractions add up fast—often more expensive than in France. But honestly, it’s usually worth it!
We started our trip with a 5-day homestay. We were welcomed by a really lovely family in Loitokitok with a view of Kilimanjaro right from their garden entrance (just a heads-up: in July, it’s often shrouded in mist!). To find them, search for Greenfield Homestay in Loitokitok. It was a fantastic experience, especially with kids! On top of transfers, they organized several outings with locals: a hike to the Tanzanian border, a motorcycle ride on the foothills of Kilimanjaro, and a day safari in Amboseli. You can book with them eyes closed! For the safari, Anthony (who’s English-speaking) took us around—he’s from the area and knows the park like the back of his hand. Highly recommend him!
Anthony then drove us to Isiolo, a town in the north that’s just starting to open up to tourism. We wanted to see the Monday livestock market, where different ethnic groups gather to buy and sell goats, sheep, and cows (according to Lonely Planet). We were a bit disappointed and wouldn’t recommend it. We also visited Ngare Ndare Forest, which has a stunning waterfall, an interesting walk with an armed ranger (elephants are common), and a suspension bridge for admiring the canopy. Just make sure to let them know you’re coming at least three days in advance to guarantee a ranger will be available. We also did a second safari day in Samburu—it’s a great complement to Amboseli and totally worth it!
Next, we headed to Naivasha (still with Anthony). We found a place on Airbnb (Jasmine House) at Fischerman’s Camp, a campsite we really loved! You’ll spot hippos, monkeys, and beautiful birds there. We organized several activities: a boat ride on the lake to see birds, zebras, and giraffes; a bike safari in Hell’s Gate Park (the campsite is right by the entrance and rents bikes); and a hike to Crater Lake (departing by boat from the campsite), where you walk among zebras, giraffes, and different gazelles. Naivasha is way more touristy than Loitokitok or Isiolo, but there’s no shortage of things to do.
Finally, we spent our last week in Watamu on the coast. To get there, we took an overnight ENA Coach bus from Naivasha to Mombasa, booked via https://www.travler.africa/. It was comfortable and fast, but you’ll need to call the driver to arrange a pickup spot—the restaurant staff at the campsite helped us out with that! Then we took an Uber to Watamu since we had a lot of luggage (we skipped the matatu).
Watamu is nicknamed "Little Italy" because of all the Italian tourists. When we were there (third week of July), it wasn’t peak season yet, so the beaches weren’t cleaned. But we loved the laid-back vibe and how easy it was to get around. We *highly* recommend the marine turtle rescue center—it’s fascinating (especially with kids) and supports a great cause! We were a bit disappointed by the marine park, though—maybe because of the season? There weren’t many fish, and jellyfish kinda ruined the snorkeling. The mangrove tour is also a must-do.
For the trip back to Nairobi, we took the express train from Mombasa. We booked our tickets when we first arrived in Kenya (since payment is only via M-Pesa). The train is reliable and comfortable, and we saw lots of elephants along the way. Just a heads-up: there are *a lot* of security checks, and we almost weren’t allowed to board with our Opinel knife…
If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
All in all, we had an amazing trip—so much variety, great encounters, and the magic of safaris!
First off, Kenya is an amazing destination with incredibly friendly and welcoming locals. It was easy to travel around because you can always find someone to give you directions or help you out.
For practical tips—though you’ve probably read this elsewhere—get a Safaricom SIM card when you arrive at the airport so you can pay via M-Pesa (you can top it up with a credit card using the Wise app) and chat with people on WhatsApp. It’ll make your life *so* much easier (booking trains, buses, park entries, etc.) and save you from carrying too much cash or hunting for ATMs.
Also, we went during the first three weeks of July, which wasn’t peak tourist season.
One thing to note: even if you’re using public transport and budget accommodations, Kenya can still be pricey because tourist attractions add up fast—often more expensive than in France. But honestly, it’s usually worth it!
We started our trip with a 5-day homestay. We were welcomed by a really lovely family in Loitokitok with a view of Kilimanjaro right from their garden entrance (just a heads-up: in July, it’s often shrouded in mist!). To find them, search for Greenfield Homestay in Loitokitok. It was a fantastic experience, especially with kids! On top of transfers, they organized several outings with locals: a hike to the Tanzanian border, a motorcycle ride on the foothills of Kilimanjaro, and a day safari in Amboseli. You can book with them eyes closed! For the safari, Anthony (who’s English-speaking) took us around—he’s from the area and knows the park like the back of his hand. Highly recommend him!
Anthony then drove us to Isiolo, a town in the north that’s just starting to open up to tourism. We wanted to see the Monday livestock market, where different ethnic groups gather to buy and sell goats, sheep, and cows (according to Lonely Planet). We were a bit disappointed and wouldn’t recommend it. We also visited Ngare Ndare Forest, which has a stunning waterfall, an interesting walk with an armed ranger (elephants are common), and a suspension bridge for admiring the canopy. Just make sure to let them know you’re coming at least three days in advance to guarantee a ranger will be available. We also did a second safari day in Samburu—it’s a great complement to Amboseli and totally worth it!
Next, we headed to Naivasha (still with Anthony). We found a place on Airbnb (Jasmine House) at Fischerman’s Camp, a campsite we really loved! You’ll spot hippos, monkeys, and beautiful birds there. We organized several activities: a boat ride on the lake to see birds, zebras, and giraffes; a bike safari in Hell’s Gate Park (the campsite is right by the entrance and rents bikes); and a hike to Crater Lake (departing by boat from the campsite), where you walk among zebras, giraffes, and different gazelles. Naivasha is way more touristy than Loitokitok or Isiolo, but there’s no shortage of things to do.
Finally, we spent our last week in Watamu on the coast. To get there, we took an overnight ENA Coach bus from Naivasha to Mombasa, booked via https://www.travler.africa/. It was comfortable and fast, but you’ll need to call the driver to arrange a pickup spot—the restaurant staff at the campsite helped us out with that! Then we took an Uber to Watamu since we had a lot of luggage (we skipped the matatu).
Watamu is nicknamed "Little Italy" because of all the Italian tourists. When we were there (third week of July), it wasn’t peak season yet, so the beaches weren’t cleaned. But we loved the laid-back vibe and how easy it was to get around. We *highly* recommend the marine turtle rescue center—it’s fascinating (especially with kids) and supports a great cause! We were a bit disappointed by the marine park, though—maybe because of the season? There weren’t many fish, and jellyfish kinda ruined the snorkeling. The mangrove tour is also a must-do.
For the trip back to Nairobi, we took the express train from Mombasa. We booked our tickets when we first arrived in Kenya (since payment is only via M-Pesa). The train is reliable and comfortable, and we saw lots of elephants along the way. Just a heads-up: there are *a lot* of security checks, and we almost weren’t allowed to board with our Opinel knife…
If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
All in all, we had an amazing trip—so much variety, great encounters, and the magic of safaris!
Hi everyone!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes. I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks). Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate. Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross. Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head. Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes: Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek? At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge? There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes. I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks). Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate. Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross. Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head. Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes: Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek? At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge? There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
hi
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls. I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions. I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali. Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha. I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4. Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Thanks for your tips and feedback!
Rachel
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls. I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions. I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali. Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha. I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4. Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Thanks for your tips and feedback!
Rachel
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
Hi there,
Hope the pros are on the lookout!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
Hi there,
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Thanks,
David
Hi,
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
Hi there,
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
Hi everyone!
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
Hi everyone!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
Hi
Any feedback on the agency Mon Guide Zanzibar?
Hi everyone,
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Hello,
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
Hello everyone,
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
Hi everyone,
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉






