Egypt trip review - April 2025
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We just got back from a trip to Egypt: 2 days in Cairo, then a week on the Nile with a cruise through a tour operator. An incredible discovery of the Pyramids of Cairo—such an emotional moment! Then a wonderful stroll along the Nile, where we leisurely soaked in the "life" along this river. An exceptional guide who transported us back less than 4,000–5,000 years BC... But here’s the thing—because there’s often a "BUT"—the flip side is discovering a *very* polluted country! Even on the Nile, the number of boats is staggering (I went barefoot on the boat one day, and by the end of the day, my feet were black with soot?). In Cairo, with nearly 20 million inhabitants, there’s trash everywhere (except around the airport and villa areas). We even saw a dead cow with stray dogs eating its "innards"—but no one seemed bothered! By the way, there are *tons* of wild dogs in Egypt and very few... cats! One day after our arrival, we had to pay our entry visa to the guide on the bus—and *only* in cash? 95 EUROS???? A disgrace, since the visa price is $25 (as stated on the visa stamp)... Someone needs to explain where that money goes??? The excursions (optional ones) are *five times* more expensive than the posted rates for tourists. There are two prices: one for Egyptians (which makes sense, given an average salary of 360 euros/month). On top of that, the cruise manager asked us to pay half in cash and half by card (we refused and paid everything in cash). First time I’ve ever seen that payment method for excursions—where *does* the money go?... During a stop in Aswan, we wanted to visit the Nubian Museum (amazing!). We took a carriage, and before leaving, we agreed on a round-trip price of 20 euros for 4 people to take us to the museum. It was all good with the driver—who called himself "Michel" and his poor horse, Rambo. On the way back, of course, he caused a scene, demanding *much* more... We refused and gave him the 20 euros we’d agreed on. But then, as if by chance, this same carriage driver stopped for a man who asked us to exchange two 20-euro bills and 10 one-euro coins for a 50-euro bill. I pulled out my 50-euro note while talking to Michel, and the other guy claimed I’d given him a 10-euro bill?? He handed me the bill—so you get the scam! So, be *very* careful with carriage drivers and their "colleagues"! Drinks on board are outrageously priced—a simple beer (Stella) costs 5 euros, and the wine is undrinkable... Tips are expected in euros—they won’t accept Egyptian pounds... and of course, you’re constantly harassed to exchange 5-euro or 10-euro bills, or even more! They end up with tons of coins, so we did it at first, but after a while, it’s just not possible—they insist way too much! I’ll stop here—it’s already quite long. So, a mixed-feelings trip overall...

philippe
TH Thoutmosis Regular ·
Hello everyone, Hope you had a great trip . Now, regarding the number of boats (the big ones), more than half of them have disappeared since the revolution. Did you notice the wrecks of some along the Nile? As for the soot, diesel engines, so🙁, and the pool—never go in, it's a bacteria nest. Just look at the water's surface to understand, plus all the sunscreen oil from tourists. In Cairo, the trash lying around everywhere—it's like back home: some people put their garbage in bins, others in illegal dumps. It's the same there. Though, if you noticed, there are huge containers in some places and much smaller ones in others, but everything ends up beside them. It's not just there—look at India, Southeast Asia, or South American countries! As for cats, you must not have looked closely—there are just as many as dogs. Did you arrive in Cairo? Then take a flight transfer for your cruise, Luxor-Aswan-Luxor? Was it an organized trip: Cairo + cruise? If the guide was waiting for you in Cairo (at the airport) and took you by bus to your hotel, the 95 € makes sense—yes, it's expensive, but they’ll tell you it’s for transfer fees. For visits, it’s new that you have to pay by card. The price difference between locals and tourists has always existed. Paying everything in cash was the right move! As for scams with tickets and coins, I’ve never experienced any. If I have to pay someone like a driver or carriage driver, I always show them the money (always in L.E or Pounds) before paying. Oh, and don’t forget—Stella is a 500 ml bottle. For wine, when we’re there, we only drink Cleopatra—it’s a decent little wine and drinkable. As for tips, I always pay in L.E (pounds). If someone doesn’t like it, they get nothing. Since the government made it so tourists have to pay for visits in € by card, everyone’s jumped on the bandwagon—even hotels want to be paid in €. I always refuse, and all these little issues wear you down over time. Have a great day! Thoutmosis
JE Jedilaction5 ·
Hello, thanks for your comments. Yes, it was a truly beautiful cultural trip, with an honestly exceptional guide. I’ve traveled a lot around the world, especially in Asia (Vietnam, Thailand, Laos, Cambodia), and I’ve been to Africa, notably Senegal, etc. Sure, there’s pollution, but not to this extent! I’ve NEVER seen so much waste in the streets, in the fields, and let’s not even talk about the canals adjacent to the Nile (Cairo/Luxor). They’re hyper-polluted—just seeing a "rainbow" in the water, we all know it’s hydrocarbons! Not a single fish in sight! As for the visa, I don’t understand such a huge difference between $25 and 95 € per person. I’d really like to know what these so-called taxes are for.... (When we left, the tour operator quoted 70 €, which was already high! We even asked the operator for concrete answers and transparency—if that’s possible, which I doubt.) The boats are very, very numerous, and no, I didn’t see any wrecks along the Nile... The Stella (50 cl) at 5 € is prohibitive (as expensive as in France, and I’m not even sure about that!). In Cairo, at a big hotel, it cost us 2.50 €, which was reasonable given the prestige of the place. In short, we’re treated like "cash cows," and the prices are whatever they want... sad to say. We’ve never felt this kind of pressure before, especially not in Asia, where people are lovely and there’s no aggression. For example, I left my phone in a bar in Hanoi and found it an hour later—it hadn’t "moved." We’re not fans of organized trips like this (it was the first and last), but for the Nile, there aren’t many other options unless you follow the banks... Best regards to you all... and happy travels if you hit the "road" again.
TH Thoutmosis Regular ·
Hello everyone, It’s true that when you stay as long as we did, you almost stop noticing the pollution, and yes, I wouldn’t dip a toe in those canals 🙁. About the visa price—I don’t know if they picked you up by bus, because ?? Anyway, they’ll tell you it’s for transfer fees. But if the agency quoted you one price and it went up on the spot, that’s not right. And everything you buy on the boat is always way more expensive. We used to bring our own bottles from ashore. When you say the boats are very crowded, it’s just an impression. The first time we did a cruise in 2004, there were a lot of boats—around 350—all doing the same route. Back then, there was only one lock, so for at least three months every year, it was closed. Travelers had to transfer from Luxor to Esna past the lock to board their boat. We didn’t have that problem. Now there are two locks, so each year one is closed for maintenance, then the other. As for phones, in 2004 my wife got a scare with her handbag—wallet, ID, everything—gone. Then we heard someone shouting. We turned around, and it was the taxi driver running after us to return the bag. Aside from the cruise, yes, traveling along the banks by train or car is great. Most of the time, we go by car with our driver friends because train prices have become ridiculous. The only thing that hasn’t changed much is bus fares. Plus, now you have to pay by card for train tickets and visits, though we still manage to get around that for the train. We haven’t decided when to go yet. We also need to renew our ID cards, and my wife can’t go now with the extreme temperatures starting. I don’t mind the heat—as long as I keep drinking. Have a great day! Thoutmosis
JE Jedilaction5 ·
There’s still so much beauty left in this world, so we’d better hurry (66 years old and then there’s overtourism)... seeing other places is a privilege, and when we get back “home,” it helps keep us humble! Wishing you all wonderful discoveries... best regards, Philippe.
TH Thoutmosis Regular ·
Hello everyone, 66, still young 😉 — yes, there’s so much beauty and kindness everywhere. Egypt, my heart’s country, I’d love to stay, but since I’m not alone ??? Even though she loves it, we have a lot of friends all over Egypt, from north to south, but the kids and grandkids — I get it, it’s not my case. I did my job with my wife to raise our two kids well, and since I don’t have that family fiber, I let it go and bite my tongue. You went on a package tour, so you only scratched the surface. To really understand the country, you need to make connections — then it becomes much easier. Have a great day, Thoutmosis
JE Jedilaction5 ·
Yes, you're right—a package tour is superficial, and contact with the locals is more than limited, as we say back home 😅. I remember the colectivos in Mexico—nothing but smiles and kindness... same in Laos, staying with locals—amazing! We have 4 kids and 5 grandkids, and we’ve always traveled, especially in a camper van with the kids. Now, being parked side by side with no real connection holds no interest for us. We only ever did "wild" camping. We’re pretty busy, but as soon as we can, we escape—we take a flight (not eco-friendly, I know) and off we go! If you look hard enough, there are affordable trips... Being just the two of us means sharing emotions and discoveries—beyond a mountain path, there’s always something to see 😊. Have a great day!
TH Thoutmosis Regular ·
Hello everyone, Actually, it’s always better to go somewhere without a package tour. Well, apart from France, Italy, and especially Egypt, we don’t go anywhere else—by choice. And our friends in Burgundy have never left France, but it’s true there are wonderful landscapes there, and in the small villages, if you say hello, people respond, unlike in our big cities. Though in Belgium it’s the same, and I know way more about Egypt than my own country😉 . Where we often go in France is Menton—gorgeous—and despite being a city, the people are friendly. Plus, we explore the hinterland and visit the villages. Have a great day, Thoutmosis
JE Jedilaction5 ·
We’re so lucky to have such a wonderful country with diverse landscapes—and don’t even get me started on the food, our wines, and our local specialties! Burgundy is part of this heritage... absolutely stunning! As for Belgium, we love it—the vibes in the bars (Belgian estaminets) and the city of Ghent are gorgeous... just like Bruges, Bouillon, Bastogne, and so many others. So, in the end, we make the most of what we’ve got and live life to the fullest!!!! goodbye and maybe see you another day!
TH Thoutmosis Regular ·
Hi everyone, I see you know Belgium well too, that’s cool. We love Bruges! Thoutmosis
FR Fred4454 Regular ·
Hi there,

"Ever since the government made it so tourists have to pay for visits in € by card, everyone’s jumped on the bandwagon—even hotels now want to be paid in €. I still refuse...

Why? What’s the issue? Is there a downside to paying by card?
TH Thoutmosis Regular ·
Hi everyone, Yes, like you said, everyone’s jumped on the bandwagon 🙁. Since we’ve been going there since 2004, we’ve always paid in L.E. (Egyptian pounds). And we still do now—when we walk into a place to drink or eat, we ask if we can pay in L.E. They can’t force you to pay in €. If I can’t, I just walk away; it doesn’t bother me. Of course, for online sites, you’re forced to use foreign currency—no choice there. The reason? Foreign exchange, same for all other currencies, but especially € and $ (all kinds of $). That’s why everyone’s doing it. You have to stay a while to see it: they stockpile foreign currency, and when the exchange rate is favorable, they exchange it all at once (a few thousand of each currency can bring in a lot when the rate works in their favor). Another crazy thing in Egypt over the past few years: if you want to exchange money, with a passport, you can go to exchange agencies. With just an ID card (like us), you have to go to the bank—or I borrow an Egyptian friend’s ID and go to the exchange agency. Why? Still a mystery. It’s something you only see in Egypt. Thoutmosis
JE Jedilaction5 ·
Hi there, Egypt has really changed… Our first trip was back in 2002—Sinai, Ras Mohamed, Dahab, St. Catherine’s Monastery, etc. We rented a car in Egyptian pounds with no issues, and everything was paid in pounds. Lots of checkpoints, but no real "security" problems, and the Egyptians were incredibly kind.

We went back in 2005, and there weren’t any major noticeable changes, except in Sharm, where a lot of signs and restaurants were in Russian (there was a big Russian clientele at the time).

We returned in April 2025, and honestly, we didn’t recognize this "side" of Egypt. Plus, we didn’t have a choice—we wanted to do the "Nile cruise," so we had to go with a "tour operator." It was the first and last time we’ll ever do a "package tour"—not our thing at all—but what can you do?

First off, how did you pay for your visa? And how much? Because the prices are never the same! The stamp itself says 25 dollars, but we paid 95 €??? That’s a huge markup!!! Who’s profiting from that?

On the boat, all the prices were in euros!! And it was *really* expensive, especially the "drinks"—a Stella (50 cl) cost 5 €, as much as in France! Meanwhile, in Cairo, we paid 2.50 € for one in a big hotel…

For the excursions, we were the only ones paying by card (the other guests, at the guides’ request, paid half in euros and half by card???). Do the math: 120 people on a single excursion, the cheapest one being 50 € per person.

So it’s *really* hard to pay for *everything* in pounds… but you shouldn’t give in. We told the guide we didn’t have enough cash, so we paid everything by card.

It’s obvious that the big cities that host tourist boats are just waiting to make easy money off visitors. They’re on the lookout, which is *so* unpleasant—sometimes you have to get angry and say NO, and even then, some keep pushing. I’ve never experienced such pressure (and we’ve dealt with similar situations in Morocco and Tunisia, but this was on another level!)

Anyway, those are our impressions. When was your last trip to Egypt? Because it’s clear the country has changed—massive pollution, and Egyptians pushing their luck way too far. What a shame!
TH Thoutmosis Regular ·
Hi everyone,

Yeah, things have changed a lot over the past few years. Back in 2020, it was still like when we first started in 2004, but since COVID and the devaluation of the Egyptian currency, everything’s gone a bit haywire. They need foreign currency, so they’ve got to pay for that new museum that cost a fortune, as well as the new capital 60 km east of Cairo. Meanwhile, there are plenty of neighborhoods in Cairo with empty buildings because they’re too expensive. So, they’re relying on tourists—after all, it’s Egypt’s top industry.

For the visa, never use the e-visa as long as it’s still accepted. Since we always travel without a tour operator or agency, we pay the exact visa price, which is around 25 €. As I mentioned before, we pay in € by card (mandatory) for visits, but for everything else, we use L.E. (pounds).

Happy Easter! Thoutmosis
JE Jedilaction5 ·
Hi there, yeah, the world "changes"—we see it every day, and not always the way we’d like... that’s just how it is!!!!!! Wishing you all happy Easter too! Thanks! !

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