Les deux villes sont intéressantes pour le snorkeling. A Sharm, vous pourrez en faire depuis le bord, a Hurghada il vous faudra sortir avec un bateau pour voir des récifs intéressants.
Avez vous d'autres critères entrant en compte dans votre choix ? animations? calme? proximité des sites antiques? shopping?
merci pour votre reponse, nous sommes plutot plage, soleil et farniente que bus et excursions . toutefois, nous ferons sans doute une visite des pyramides . a ce propos quelles visites vous me conseillez et depuis quelle station entre hurghade et sharm el sheik est ce le plus facile a faire (pour faire le moins de bus par exemple) . on m a deja parlé de hurghada pour le snorkeling depuis la plage et vous semblez dire que sharm el sheik serait mieux . vous connaissez bien les deux sites ?
amities - jean luc
Je connais mieux Hurghada car j'y vis depuis 3 ans, je connais Sharm de réputation, je n'y ai fait qu'une seule visite.
A Sharm, il y a des récifs de corail devant les hôtels. Vous pouvez donc faire du snorkeling sans prendre de bateau. Vous serez proche du monastère sainte Catherine mais très éloigné de l'Egypte pharaonique. Sharm/Le Caire 8 a 10 heures de bus. Sharm/Louxor 3 heures de bateau puis 4 a 5 heures de bus.
A Hurghada il y a peu voir pas de corail devant les hôtels. Les sites de snorkeling sont tres jolis mais il faut sortir en bateau pour y accéder. Vous êtes plus proches des sites Antiques. Hurghada/le Caire 6 heures de bus ou 45mn d'avion. Hurghada Louxor 4 a 5 heures de bus.
Les deux villes sont assez animées. Si vous cherchez le calme vous pouvez vous diriger vers:
Proche de Sharm: Dahab (qui a garde un caractère authentique)
Proche d'Hurghada: El Gouna et Makadi Bay (villes luxueuses, récifs de corail a Makadi Bay)
merci beaucoup d avoir pris du temps pour me repondre . je tiendrais compte de ces informations et lorsque j aurais choisi un hotel, je vous recontacterai si possible pour avoir des infos plus precises .
une derniere chose, si vous permettez, nous avons envisagé de partier en octobre, novembre ou decembre 2009 . quelle est la temperature de l air et de l eau a ces periodes . encore merci de votre gentillesse
merci pour votre reponse, nous sommes plutot plage, soleil et farniente que bus et excursions . toutefois, nous ferons sans doute une visite des pyramides . a ce propos quelles visites vous me conseillez et depuis quelle station entre hurghade et sharm el sheik est ce le plus facile a faire (pour faire le moins de bus par exemple) . on m a deja parlé de hurghada pour le snorkeling depuis la plage et vous semblez dire que sharm el sheik serait mieux . vous connaissez bien les deux sites ?
amities - jean luc
bonjour
si snorkeling est la priorité: sharm el sheik sans hesiter' (en evitant naama bay si on aime le calme sauf le sofitel a l'ecart et recit poissonneux devant)
quelques bons hotels plus calmes en s'eloignant tres peu d'un coté comme de l'autre et on peut profiter de l'animation tropezienne X 50 de naama bay le soir d'un coup de navette si on le desire.
si snorkeling pas la priorité : alors baignade plage et sorties bateaux (payantes) pour les poissons, hurghada sera tres bien
nous sommes tres snorkeling et plongées btles et en novembre je pense aller au sud d'hurghada (el quseir)......le seul frein ...... c'est le vent qui souffle souvent fort sur cette côte.
ce vent que l'on ne sent pas ou peu dans les hotels de sharm
merci beaucoup a tous ceux qui ont eut la gentillesse de me repondre, on s enrichit de bons conseil sur ce site . le snorkeling et le farniente etant nos criteres principaux, nous allons chercher un bon hotel sur le secteur de sharm el sheik . depart en principe a l automne 2009 - amities a tous
jean luc
Bonjour, voilà que je m'inscris ici pour ma recherche sur un futur voyage en Egypte, je pense vers septembre octobre. Le climat y est encore très agréable. Mon homme est assez farniente et je suis d'accord avec!! On part avec son fils en période de congé scolaire et en amoureux hors saison. Nous sommes allés en Turquie en septembre 2008, à Kusadasi, ns avons eu des pluies et de la grisaille! On a eu une super promo de dernière min(2sem av) 350euros en all in départ de Liège hotel 3étoiles(limite mais le prix bas!). Hotel sympa, bcp d'ambiance, près de la plage, mais si petite. Tout le monde parle de la Turquie mais je n'en ferai pas autant. Donc, revenons à nos moutons! Prochain voyage découverte: L'Egypte et ses trucs pointus! On est pas très excursions ou alors celle d'un bar à tapas, enfin là bas je ne c pas trop quoi! On aime bien mangé, boire un cocktail les pieds en éventail sur la plage et pourquoi pas dans l'eau!! Et puis zhom est un fan de plongée! Question prix, g beau fouiller dans les agences de voyages, c Neckermann qui fait le - chèr, faut compter 650euros en all in dans un 4étoiles. Le premier de la liste c'est le Three Corners (miss Belgique gagne ce voyage! Donc je pense qu'ils n'oseraient pas l'envoyer dans un miteux!) Enfin voilà, ns avons le même projet donc pour les bons plans on peut se tenir au courant! Bye
'Nous sommes allés en Turquie en septembre 2008, à Kusadasi, ns avons eu des pluies et de la grisaille!'
il y a souvent une periode de pluie mi-septembre-mi-octobre. Le beau temps revient ensuite.
'On est pas très excursions ou alors celle d'un bar à tapas, enfin là bas je ne c pas trop quoi! On aime bien mangé, boire un cocktail les pieds en éventail sur la plage et pourquoi pas dans l'eau!!'
Hum...
Je crois que vous allez chercher en Egypte des choses que vous risquez de ne pas y trouver. L'Egypte c'est mi-tradition mi-tourisme de masse. Et on n'y mange pas de maniere formidable selon les criteres europeens.
Chère Carocaro,
Que de belles vacances en perspectives...
A la lecture de votre post, je me pose une question:
Pourquoi aller en Egypte?
Ce que vous cherchez c'est un bas prix, la plage, la plongée et des cocktails.
Je crains fort que vous soyez déçus par l'Egypte, qui n'est pas occidentalisée et qui est pauvre en bar à Tapas!
Cuba n'est pas plus cher et plus conforme à vos souhaits.
bonjour
pas si conforme car cuba...(belle destination, sauf le pouvoir politique).. au mois d'octobre, c'est la saison des cyclones, le voyage 11h de vol ...et plus cher nettement que la mer rouge et pensons aussi a zhom qui est fan de plongée .
si on desire le côté occidentalisé, sharm el sheik est le monaco de l'egypte avec 2 casinos...mac donald... etc...
j'ai pas d'actions pour l'egypte, mais carocaro ne veut pas de risque de pluies (apres la turquie)
a+
Elles sont assez partagées, mais je tiens compte de chacune. En simple, je pense que je trouverai en Egypte, le soleil, la qualité de l'hotel 4 étoiles min, des buffets internationnaux impécables et de belles plages de sable. G beau regardé sur le net, c'est la déstination top rapport qualité-prix. Si qqun a des conseils pour un hotel!
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Je découvre ce forum avec beaucoup d’intérêt Nous souhaitons partir mon épouse et mes deux enfants (17 et 13) dans un hôtel all in près de Hurghada en juillet.…
First of all: a big thank you to everyone whose insightful, funny, lively, and exotic posts we’ve enjoyed. It’s a joy to find such lovely writers on this forum, who’ve given me tons of ideas and addresses to prepare our trip.
Our plan: to explore Morocco from November 2nd to December 4th. We’ll have our own vehicle (a 2011 Renault Grand Scenic, in great condition), shipped with us from Sète to Tanger Med. Returning from Nador.
Our profile: 75 and 62 years young, so old but happy to be, in very good health. Seasoned travelers—it’s practically our whole life. Lovers of beautiful landscapes, historic sites, fine craftsmanship, and road trips. This will be my 3rd trip to Morocco, but the first two were 20 and 17 years ago. I’ve never been north of the Essaouira-Marrakech line (though I’ve gone further south). As for my husband, a lifelong expat including in Muslim countries, it’s his first time in Morocco.
He’s the one driving. He’s very experienced, cautious, not necessarily fast, but used to driving in all conditions (and countries, including the most creative on the road). But I don’t want to tire him out, and he no longer drives at night (and we’ll be there in November).
I’ve decided to show him a bit of everything by taking a road trip along beautiful backroads, with daily distances averaging 180-200 km (except on highways, which will be rare), regularly broken up by rest days. I’m counting on a speed of 40-50 km/h, plus stops/visits along the way.
Since I’ve read so many posts, I’ve narrowed it down to some very specific questions.
1) Coming directly from Rabat via the highway, we’d prefer to skip Marrakech*. Still, we’ll need to sleep somewhere nearby. We’ll head toward Skoura the next day. Does anyone have a well-located address for this route, possibly east of Marrakech? Ideally, we’re looking for a small town, easy parking, clean accommodation (minimum) with average comfort (or better if available), a bit heated, and if possible, pretty and/or nice—but above all, a place to sleep well, wash with lukewarm (ideally hot) water, and have a decent dinner.
(*Explanation for the "no-go" in Marrakech: it’s a shame, because there are truly beautiful things in this city, but I think the vibe won’t suit us—it’s an understatement for "it’ll put us off" / "make us flee" / "traumatize us." Not because it’s too crowded and we want to stand out from tourists (we’re part of them), but because of forced henna on your hand, or spending 10 minutes every quarter-hour saying "no thank you" to a "guide" who’s as much a guide as I am a trapeze artist. Knowing us, it’ll wear us down. The country is vast and beautiful, and our time too short to waste our memories just days after arriving. And I don’t want to ruin things for my peaceful husband, or he’ll demand we turn back—and Sète in November isn’t exactly thrilling either.)
2) Which route to Skoura (in 2 days)? I see two options: either via the Tichka Pass, with a night in Telouet before reaching Skoura, or via the R307/N23 from Demnate, with a night near Megdaz before descending to Skoura. So: Tichka Pass or R307/N23? I have a slight (big) preference for the second option, even though I know the other route is very beautiful too. Of course, before deciding, we’ll check the weather and the current state of the R307/N23—does anyone know where to get info on the road conditions? But even assuming the road is "passable," is it a bit too tough in itself? In short, is it reasonable? If a kind soul could share their experience, a thousand thanks in advance.
That’s all I’ve written for now. I’ll save the other questions for later posts. Thanks again to those who had the patience to read this and to those who can respond. Happy Sunday to all!
Bonjour à tous,
Notre séjour au Maroc sera du 3 au 17 novembre prochain, dans le Haut Atlas.
En gros nous ferions :
Départ Marrakech - Aït Benhaddou
Skoura - Tineghir - Merzouga
Merzouga via la N12 jusquà Zagora
Zagora - Vallée du Drâa - Marrakech
Il semble que ce soit la saison basse donc mon souhait serait de faire un voyage itinérant sans avoir besoin de réserver les hébergements à l'avance. Dans d'autres pays, les réservations nous ont contraint et empêché de visiter des sites non prévus à notre programme. Notre liberté nous est chère, mais je voudrais aussi éviter d arriver sur place et de ne rien trouver.
Que me conseillez vous? Réserver ou pas?
Vos conseils sont toujours utiles et merci à tous ceux qui voudront bien éclairer ma lanterne.
Roberto
Hi, I’d like to head to Morocco next week with my car. I’ve looked online at all the different info about the ferry crossing to Tangier, but I’m finding it really expensive. Is there a way to buy tickets in Spain? Or another way to get the Algeciras–Tangier crossing cheaper? Thanks for any tips or info!
We found a guide who offers the trip from M'hamid to a camp (departure at 3 PM, tea, meal, camel ride, overnight stay, breakfast, and return to M'Hamid by 11 AM the next day via the sacred oasis). He quoted us a price of 380 € for April.
What do you think of this rate?
This might sound like a silly question, but is it common to negotiate the price for this kind of thing (we're booking from France)? It’s still a big part of our travel budget.
Hi there,
We're planning to visit Egypt between January 25 and February 15, 2027. I looked up the Ramadan dates and found some sites saying it starts on February 8, while others say February 18... Where's the mistake?
Thanks,
Christian
Hi there,
We’re a family of 4 with two boys aged 12 and 10 traveling to Egypt in February.
We’re spending 3 days in Cairo to take our time exploring the city and the sites before heading south.
-Is it necessary to have a guide to visit the GEM? Are audio guides available?
-Do you have any contacts for drivers to organize a few transfers (Giza, Saqqara, Airport)?
-Do you know a French-speaking guide who’s friendly, family-friendly, and good at making things exciting, with reasonable prices?
With our two teens, we’re heading to Morocco for two weeks at the end of December and beginning of January. It’ll be our first trip that’s more "off the beaten path," even though we’ve visited several countries before. Given the overwhelming amount of info, I’m feeling a bit swamped with the prep this trip requires, and I’ll admit I’m a little lost when it comes to figuring out what’s realistic to visit in two weeks 😕 So, all your tips, personal experiences, and suggestions are more than welcome!
- Which places should we prioritize during this time of year? (I’ve read that some spots are less accessible in winter?)
- What’s the best way to get around? (rental car, train, private transport, buses, etc.? — just a heads-up, we’ll have a few suitcases!)
- In terms of "safety," are there any areas to avoid?
- Any recommendations for reliable local tour companies (beyond the big names like "Get Your Guide") that offer excursions or private transport to help us explore the country?
- A doable 2-week itinerary that lets us enjoy the country’s diversity without having to change accommodations every two days?
I’m planning a trip to the High Atlas in Morocco and have a few questions for you:
- Why do so many people recommend avoiding international agencies for car rentals? Can anyone explain why?
- Is Booking.com reliable, and has anyone rented a vehicle through their service? There’s a pretty big price difference compared to local Moroccan agencies.
- Is there a detailed road map included in the rental car?
- Is Google Maps enough to get around the High Atlas? This will be my first trip there.
Thanks so much to anyone who can help with this destination I’ve been dreaming about for years.
Have a great evening,
Roberto
hi there, I’m heading to Tunisia 🙂 from April 27 to May 8 with my family. I’ve read through the various discussions about the country, but I’m still a bit unsure🤪: for currency exchange, I saw on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that withdrawing currency with a bank card from ATMs is limited to 200 TND per week. There are four of us traveling by car, so that might be a bit tight! And it’s a hassle to carry a lot of cash, even if I’m not being paranoid! What do you all recommend?
Cheers,
Laurent.
I was wondering if it’s possible to join a group as a solo traveler with local agencies in Djanet for circuits like Tadrart, Essendilene, Sefar, or Tassili?
If you have any agencies to recommend, I’d love to hear about them.
I didn’t find any info on the forum.
Best,
We're planning a 2-week trip in late February/early March for a road trip in the High Atlas with a rental car, and we'd love to avoid booking our accommodations in advance. Is that doable, easily manageable, or risky (are accommodations available, expensive, or not great)? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi,
This autumn, we’re planning to explore the Oriental region and we’re wondering where the best place to land would be. We’ll have three weeks ahead of us and we’ll be renting a car.
Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Is there an official website or list of certified Egyptologist guides in Egypt? And most importantly, what are the normal prices for a full day or half day? There’s so much scamming and crazy pricing—depending on who you contact, it can range from simple to quadruple!!!!
Thanks
Hi everyone,
We're leaving in early October 2026 and planning to travel from the Aït Bougmez Valley ("Happy Valley") to Skoura/Ouarzazate via Demnate and the R307/N23 route.
Has anyone taken this road recently? Is it passable with a regular car (non-4x4), or is a 4x4 absolutely necessary? Are there any ongoing construction projects or degraded sections to be aware of?
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Hello,
In September, my wife and I, along with another couple, will be traveling to Tunisia and staying at the Sheherasade Hotel near Sousse.
We’d love to hear your recommendations or tips on places to visit, as well as advice on taxis or other transportation options.
Thanks in advance!
This autumn’s trip should be in Morocco—barring any geopolitical issues between now and then.
After many trips to the south of Fès, I’m giving the north a try.
My plan is roughly to do a road trip loop from Rabat back to Rabat, passing through Asilah, Tangier, Tétouan, Chefchaouen, Akchour, Fès, Meknès, and Volubilis.
That’s a lot of cities.
Probably a bit too many for our taste—we usually prefer more isolated spots...
So I’m looking for tips on little backroads, secluded beaches, half-day hikes, and offbeat places.
If you’ve also got recommendations for accommodation... (We’re open to splurging over 100 € if it’s a real favorite.)
Feel free to think outside the box—this is an open-ended plan! !😉
Hello,
I’m looking for testimonials from Pieds-Noirs who have recently returned to Algeria.
There can’t be many left after 65 years of the country’s independence.
I’m planning to go back myself soon to reconnect with my roots... before I pass away...
I’ve started making a few pre-bookings for hotels and apartments to rent in Algiers. At first, I received friendly and welcoming responses. Then, when I mentioned I wanted to stay for two or three weeks—maybe even a month—explaining that my trip wouldn’t be strictly touristy but more of a pilgrimage to the places of my childhood, and that it would likely be a very emotional journey, I expected a positive and warm reaction to my approach. Instead, I suddenly stopped getting replies from the three or four people I’d contacted. So now I’m wondering about the reception former Pieds-Noirs can expect...
Anyone here who can share their experience of returning? I specified “recently” because it seems that right now, diplomatic relations between the two governments are extremely tense, not to say hostile... even if Macron claims otherwise...
Hello,
I’m traveling to Algeria from October 27 to November 16, 2026.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s been through the process about the accommodation attestation required for the visa application:
- Does it need to cover the entire duration of the trip?
- Is this document mandatory for a hotel to rent a room?
- Is it checked during inspections?
- Is a hotel booking (e.g., via Booking.com) sufficient for the visa?
- If so, does it need to be paid in advance?
I plan to visit several cities and do one or more treks with a guide or agency.
If you have any contacts you’d recommend, I’d be grateful!
Also, I’d love to share this trip with a companion who’s already done some traveling.
We’d organize the journey together, of course.
Thanks for your feedback!
Safe travels to all,
Dom, Dijon, 64 years old
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
I’m heading to Morocco in September 2026, and part of my trip takes me through Merzouga. I’m looking for a 4x4 driver-guide to explore the area with my partner and me.
Even though I come to Morocco four times a year, it’s been a long time since I’ve made the trip by car. I need to refresh my knowledge! I’ll be traveling in early October. I have a car that’s about 20 years old. The plan is to cross via Algeciras/Ceuta.
A few questions:
1) Does this crossing still exist? If so, do I need to buy the ticket in advance or on the spot? From whom? Any advice is welcome!
2) What documents are required for the car?
3) If anyone is making the trip around the same time, it could be fun to drive together 😊
Hi there,
I’m looking for some friendly recommendations for places to stay in Marrakech for 3 nights in June 2026.
In the meantime, have a great day, everyone! Thanks so much in advance.