Tours sérieux en Bolivie, Salar et Sud Lipez?
by Gege340
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
salut,
connaissez-vous une agence "sérieuse" qui propose des circuits dans les Salars et sud Lipez (La Paz - San Pedro de Atacama) mais pas dans la catégorie backpakers, nous sommes 5 dont 2 personnes qui ont 55 ans et qui recherchent un minimum de confort (nous aussi). mais pas non plus Terra andina, Fremen...etc trop chers.
merci
Une remarque si vous me le permettez
Nous avons 52 ans, mon epouse et moi même et nous venons de faire le circuit. 🙂 et nous n'etions pas les seuls de cet age. Les conditions sont rudes dans la regions et la population est pauvre en Bolivie. Il n'existe pas de logement 2 ou 3 ** mais cela reste correct. Pas de douche non plus le deuxième nuit. Offrez vous à votre arrivée sur SPA un tres bon hotel 😏
Si vous avez un budget illimité vous pouvez vous renseigner dans les hotels de luxe à SPA. Certain organise des voyages privés.
N'oubliez pas ceci. les paysages sont magnifique et inoubliable et vous oublierez vite les desagréments
Bon voyage
Alexandre
Nous avons 52 ans, mon epouse et moi même et nous venons de faire le circuit. 🙂 et nous n'etions pas les seuls de cet age. Les conditions sont rudes dans la regions et la population est pauvre en Bolivie. Il n'existe pas de logement 2 ou 3 ** mais cela reste correct. Pas de douche non plus le deuxième nuit. Offrez vous à votre arrivée sur SPA un tres bon hotel 😏
Si vous avez un budget illimité vous pouvez vous renseigner dans les hotels de luxe à SPA. Certain organise des voyages privés.
N'oubliez pas ceci. les paysages sont magnifique et inoubliable et vous oublierez vite les desagréments
Bon voyage
Alexandre
Bonne journee
Alexandre
Alexandre
bonjour !
A défaut de pouvoir te conseiller une agence je peux au moins t'en déconseiller une : Expediciones Lipez mais comme tu t'en doute car tu prends la peine de le demander, ce n'est pas la seule à éviter...
Autre conseil, fais une recherche, j'ai vu de bon post sur le sujet, certains conseillait des agences.
A défaut de pouvoir te conseiller une agence je peux au moins t'en déconseiller une : Expediciones Lipez mais comme tu t'en doute car tu prends la peine de le demander, ce n'est pas la seule à éviter...
Autre conseil, fais une recherche, j'ai vu de bon post sur le sujet, certains conseillait des agences.
Un voyage ne se calcule pas en terme d'heures d'avion... on peut aller bien souvent plus loin avec une bonne paire de chaussures.
Hello Gégé340,
Eh bien pour Uyuni, je peu te proposer l'agence Oasis tours sur la Plaza Arce à Uyuni.
C'est la place en face de la gare (le train est meilleur moyen d'aller à Uyuni en venant d'Oruro
J'ai déjà pris, et C'était +++
Mais bon, le sud-(Lipez reste ce qu'il est : sauvage. donc, pas forcément de ***)
A Oasis tours nous avons loués de bons sacs de couchage, propres, chauds. Ils ont eu l'amabilité de nous garder l'essentiel de nos bagages pendant le tour. Tout à été retrouvé sans que quoi que ce soit ai été toucché.
Le prix très correct, Eddy le chauffeur d'1 4x4 en très bon état et Hilda la cuisinière ont été parfait.
Je te déconseille colque tours. c'est très hasardeux 😕
Pour loger : Hostal Maritz, c'est très bien, pas bien cher, chambres agréables et un grand patio central très ensoleillé. Pour une très bonne soirée : La Loco, une crèperie ou l'on mange très bien, autour de 2 cheminées au feu de bois, ds une ambiance feutrée.
Si besoin d'en savoir +, n'hésite pas à me contacter. Bye ! Dany & Cie (53 ans & 54 ans)
Pour loger : Hostal Maritz, c'est très bien, pas bien cher, chambres agréables et un grand patio central très ensoleillé. Pour une très bonne soirée : La Loco, une crèperie ou l'on mange très bien, autour de 2 cheminées au feu de bois, ds une ambiance feutrée.
Si besoin d'en savoir +, n'hésite pas à me contacter. Bye ! Dany & Cie (53 ans & 54 ans)
Il vaut mieux perdre une minute dans le vie que la vie en une minute.
(vu ds un taxi bolivien)
coucou
est ce que c'est possible d'avoir une idée de prix pour 3 ou 4 jours au salar depuis SPA avec retour a SPA
merci de vos réponses
marion
Une remarque si vous me le permettez
Nous avons 52 ans, mon epouse et moi même et nous venons de faire le circuit. 🙂 et nous n'etions pas les seuls de cet age. Les conditions sont rudes dans la regions et la population est pauvre en Bolivie. Il n'existe pas de logement 2 ou 3 ** mais cela reste correct. Pas de douche non plus le deuxième nuit. Offrez vous à votre arrivée sur SPA un tres bon hotel 😏
Si vous avez un budget illimité vous pouvez vous renseigner dans les hotels de luxe à SPA. Certain organise des voyages privés.
N'oubliez pas ceci. les paysages sont magnifique et inoubliable et vous oublierez vite les desagréments
Bon voyage
Alexandre
Merci ! à tous Sur SPA on a déjà choisi Hostal Elim, ça semble pas mal pour le tour en Bolivie, on part de La Paz, on pense à Cordilla Travel, quelqu'un connaît ? Ils sont aussi basés à SPA et à Uyuni.
Nous avons 52 ans, mon epouse et moi même et nous venons de faire le circuit. 🙂 et nous n'etions pas les seuls de cet age. Les conditions sont rudes dans la regions et la population est pauvre en Bolivie. Il n'existe pas de logement 2 ou 3 ** mais cela reste correct. Pas de douche non plus le deuxième nuit. Offrez vous à votre arrivée sur SPA un tres bon hotel 😏
Si vous avez un budget illimité vous pouvez vous renseigner dans les hotels de luxe à SPA. Certain organise des voyages privés.
N'oubliez pas ceci. les paysages sont magnifique et inoubliable et vous oublierez vite les desagréments
Bon voyage
Alexandre
Merci ! à tous Sur SPA on a déjà choisi Hostal Elim, ça semble pas mal pour le tour en Bolivie, on part de La Paz, on pense à Cordilla Travel, quelqu'un connaît ? Ils sont aussi basés à SPA et à Uyuni.
Côté prix, je pense qu'il faut compter entre 80 & 100 dollars. pour 4j / 3nuits.ça me semble honête
Il vaut mieux perdre une minute dans le vie que la vie en une minute.
(vu ds un taxi bolivien)
J'ai essayé de contacter cette agence par mail, mais sans succès... Peut être n'est ce pas la bonne adresse. Pour info, nous sommes dans ma même tranche d'âge !! Nous recherchons une agence pour faire le trajet dans l'autre sens, cad : San Pedro Uyuni (ou Tupiza) . L'idéal serait un tour privé, mais les prix me semblent assez prohibitifs ...
Quant à Colque, on hésite ... Et poutant ce sont les seuls qui ont répondu jusqu'à présent.
« Voyager rend modeste. Vous voyez quelle petite place vous occupez dans le monde. » - Gustave Flaubert
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J'ai essayé de contacter cette agence par mail, mais sans succès... Peut être n'est ce pas la bonne adresse. Pour info, nous sommes dans ma même tranche d'âge !! Nous recherchons une agence pour faire le trajet dans l'autre sens, cad : San Pedro Uyuni (ou Tupiza) . L'idéal serait un tour privé, mais les prix me semblent assez prohibitifs ...
Quant à Colque, on hésite ... Et poutant ce sont les seuls qui ont répondu jusqu'à présent.
Pour Cordilla Traveller j'ai comme mail: ctraveler@123mail.cl ils sont basés à SPA et à Uyuni j'aurais voulu des retours de voyages...
Pour Cordilla Traveller j'ai comme mail: ctraveler@123mail.cl ils sont basés à SPA et à Uyuni j'aurais voulu des retours de voyages...
je rentre de uyuni j'ai pris colque tours pour la deuxieme fois car les chauffeurs ne s'occupent que de leur voiture et peuvent se repauser au bivouac d'autre par m colque a beaucoup de possibilite si probleme car ils sont 25 chauffeurs
prix 163000 pesos chilien les 4 jours pour deuxl
HALLIER L
163 000 pesos Chiliens (soit environ 210 E) pour 4 jours pour 2 personnes ?
Ce n'est vraiment pas cher car moi ils m'ont annoncé la modique somme de 800E ...
Etes vous partis de San Pedro pour rejoindre Uyuni ?
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Bonjour
Pour avoir plus de chance il faut s'adresser à des agences Boliviennes car se sont les seuls accréditées pour la Bolivie. Allez directement à la place centrale de UYUNI et vous trouverez des agences sérieuses.
Désolé Loloetpat mais Pamela et Coulques sont les moins bien coté dans les forums et pour les avoir utilisés je confirme cette impression. Par contre n'oublions pas le pricncipal: Les payasages sont magnifiques
Lors de notre passage à SPA je me souviens d'une agence sur Caracoles qui proposait un tour Privé de 3 jours pour 1000 US $ ( soit 250 par personnes). Il me semble que c'etait Nomade expeditiones
NOMADE EXPEDICIONES
Caracoles 163 tel. 851158 www.nomadeexpediciones.cl sanpedro@nomadeexpediciones.cl

autrement les hotels de standing de SPA propose des expeditions privées
N'hesitez pas à nous tenir au courant
Bonne journee
Alexandre
Pour avoir plus de chance il faut s'adresser à des agences Boliviennes car se sont les seuls accréditées pour la Bolivie. Allez directement à la place centrale de UYUNI et vous trouverez des agences sérieuses.
Désolé Loloetpat mais Pamela et Coulques sont les moins bien coté dans les forums et pour les avoir utilisés je confirme cette impression. Par contre n'oublions pas le pricncipal: Les payasages sont magnifiques
Lors de notre passage à SPA je me souviens d'une agence sur Caracoles qui proposait un tour Privé de 3 jours pour 1000 US $ ( soit 250 par personnes). Il me semble que c'etait Nomade expeditiones
NOMADE EXPEDICIONES
Caracoles 163 tel. 851158 www.nomadeexpediciones.cl sanpedro@nomadeexpediciones.cl

autrement les hotels de standing de SPA propose des expeditions privées
N'hesitez pas à nous tenir au courant
Bonne journee
Alexandre
Bonne journee
Alexandre
Alexandre
nous sommes parti le090109 a7h45 de san pedro pour la douane ensuite on a donne 50 pesos pour l'entree en bolivie au col puis descente a laguna blanca pour un petit dejeunee inclu enuite laguna verde, eau chaudes et bain super et traversee du desert de dali pour arriver vers 13h30 14h00 a laguna colorada repas au refuge a 4300m et promenade sieste et foot pour les plus temeraires repas du soir et une bonne nuit lever 6h30 petit dej et depart passage vers los arboles de piedras et 2 lagunes supers repas de midi dans un petit village et remonte sur le plateau par aun super cnion et un jolie piste de montagne visite du village abandonne et arrive au deuxieme refuge 4500m avec eau chaude pour la douche et tres belle vue le lendemain traversee du desert d'huyuni arret au milieu de nul part et visite de l'ile des pecheurs puis de l'hotel de sel du village ou ils preparent le sel visite du cimetiere de train et arrive a uyuni nous etions 5ou6 par 4x4 et le chauffeur sylvio s'arretait quand je luis demandait et toujours avec gentillesse ensuite nous sommes alles a tupiza a l'hotel mitru trop top e mail de colque colquetours@terra.cl
le circuit peut se faire aussi de uyuni ou de tupiza vers san pedro
HALLIER L
tu as surement raison mais tout depend du guide par contre pour nous en deux fois en 12 ans nous avons eu une super experience en prenant le temps avec gentillesse d'expliquer au guide des le debut notre but dans cette taversee part contre il y a 12 ans j' ai ete coince part la neige trois jours et m colque a mis tous les moyens necessaires pour que je puisse rejoindre san pedro depuis laguna verde
HALLIER L
bonjour,
on est pas vieux a 55ans😛 c'est l'age mur pour en profite a max!!!!
je vous conseille ce voyage meme si le confort dont vous rechercher n'y est pas notament douche chaude, resto de luxe...bar😄. sachez que ce voyage se fait quand meme en 4x4, en 3-4 jours au choix.
Si vous pouvez payer un peu plus, vous auriez un 4x4 rien qu'a vous 5, avec chauffeur-guide et cuisiniere ; a negocier sur place soit a uyuni soit a Tupiza en bolivie pas besoin de le reserver d'avance car vous etes deja un groupe a vous 5 .
il n'y a pas d'etoile dans les hotels dans cette partie du monde mais il y en aura pleines dans le ciel, puis apres dans les yeux pour les souvenirs du paysages😎😎.
pour le bain chaud, il y aura un bassin d'eau chaude naturel a mi-parcours donc n'oublier pas vos maillots de bain!!! bien sur on se lavera sans savons car interdit pour ne pas polluer le site.🙂.
si vous arriviez de la paz je vous conseille de descendre en bus(nombreux)jusqu'a oruro: 3h de trajet puis pour quelques bolvianos(- 1 euro) taxi de la gare routiere bus a la gare ferroviere pour prendre le train: le wara-wara le merc et dim a 19h arriver a tupiza vers 8h du matin en 1ere classe obligee avec petit dej pour 130 bol.(13 euros 2006). Arret possible a Uyuni a 2h du mat avec le wara-wara🏴☠️.
sachez que c'est un poil plus cher a tupiza que uyuni mais moins de monde et moins d'agences.(nous on la prefere qu'uyuni).
apres ce circuit vous savourerez votre douche chaude😛
bon voyage
On ne cherche pas bien sûr les hôtels étoilés...on a quand même un peu lu des descriptifs sur cette région...
On cherche un juste milieu, un opérateur (tour) correct, une prestation qui n'est pas haut de gamme mais pas non plus type backpaker, on a l'impression que c'est pas facile à trouver ce juste milieu.
précision, on voudrait partir de La Paz et réserver ce tour avant notre départ de France.
Merci
Hello
Il y a 4 agences sur SPA et plus d'une dizaine à UYUNI. Je pense qu'il te faut decider ton lieux de depart (SPA, TUPIZA, UYUNI ) et à partir de ce moment la faire le tour des agences sur place. Tu seras fixé et tu te permettras de ne regler la prestation qu'à la vue du vehicule, du chauffeur et de verifier qu'il y a bien une cuisiniaire avec vous. Si vous rechercher du confort evitez d'etre à plus de 4 dans le 4X4. Mon epouse qui n'est pas du genre backpaker à quand même de magnifiques souvenirs gravés dans son esprits. meme si le couchage n'etait pas excellent. Cela laisse neanmoins de tres bon souvenir. Et à votre arrivée sur SPA offrez vous un super hotel pour vous reposer.
Bon voyage
Alexandre
Il y a 4 agences sur SPA et plus d'une dizaine à UYUNI. Je pense qu'il te faut decider ton lieux de depart (SPA, TUPIZA, UYUNI ) et à partir de ce moment la faire le tour des agences sur place. Tu seras fixé et tu te permettras de ne regler la prestation qu'à la vue du vehicule, du chauffeur et de verifier qu'il y a bien une cuisiniaire avec vous. Si vous rechercher du confort evitez d'etre à plus de 4 dans le 4X4. Mon epouse qui n'est pas du genre backpaker à quand même de magnifiques souvenirs gravés dans son esprits. meme si le couchage n'etait pas excellent. Cela laisse neanmoins de tres bon souvenir. Et à votre arrivée sur SPA offrez vous un super hotel pour vous reposer.
Bon voyage
Alexandre
Bonne journee
Alexandre
Alexandre
bonjour gege,
je vous comprends bien votre recherche mais pas facile de reserver de france avant depart avec un bon tour operateur : tout simplement on negocie les prix sur place (donc moins cher qu'en france car en faisant marcher la concurrence) en demandant de voir le type de circuit propose et le 4x4 avant de payer comme ca c'est plus rassurant de voir de vos propre yeux. de plus je vous rassure qu'il est vraiment tres facile de choisir une agence sur place, de le reserver la veille pour le lendemain, comme vous etes 5 reserver un 4x4 pour vous uniquement(autour de 100 dollars us par personne).
pour les circuit 4jours 3 nuits en partant de tupiza ca comprend le sud del lipez et termine par le salar d'uyuni, il y a environ 5-6 agences dans la petite ville proche les uns des autres.en eliminant colque tour, je vous en cite 2 tupizatours.com et celui de hi (hostelling internationnal avec qui on etait partie), les autres je me rappelle plus leur nom. de tout facon tous vont dans les logements sommaires dans ce haut desert, vers la laguna colorada, on etait 3 groupes donc tours diffenrents dans le meme barraquement de nationalite differentes. effectivement ca resemble au backpakers, il n'y a pas de juste milieu car pas d'autre choix que ce type de logement dans cette zone, autour c'et le desert:montagne, plateau, lagunes...vent vent tres froid.😕
je vous ai donne le bon plan en voyageant avec le train de oruro-tupiza( moins touristique que uyuni plus de charme tout autour pour des balades dans les environs).
bonne quete, a votre retour vous donnerez vos impressions pour les autres vf.
ps: meme en reservant de la paz c'est plus cher que sur place, on s'est renseigne aussi.
marie
on est rentré de ce tour en Bolivie, très satisfait de ce beau voyage, notre agence était ni la plus mauvaise ni la meilleure, elles sont quasi toutes pareil, les prix aussi, ça varie de $100 à $150 par pers pour 4 jours.on est un peu serré dans les voitures mais c'est sympa. les logements étaient pas mal, la nourriture aussi, mais surtout les paysages fantastiques, le ciel et le salar qui se rejoignent pour une immensité vertigineuse.
La bolivie est pauvre, mais la population ne le montre pas et dans les campagnes on vit de peu, les gens sont aimables mais discrets.
Bonjour
Je suis ravi pour vous car c'est vraiment magnifique et inoubliable. De plus bien depaysant et nous en revenons les pieds encore plus sur Terre et plein de superbe souvenir indelebile.
Alexandre
Je suis ravi pour vous car c'est vraiment magnifique et inoubliable. De plus bien depaysant et nous en revenons les pieds encore plus sur Terre et plein de superbe souvenir indelebile.
Alexandre
Bonne journee
Alexandre
Alexandre
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Is an SUV enough?
Looking forward to your tips!
Hi, I'm looking for a local agency in Uyuni to do the trip and tours from Uyuni to San Pedro de Atacama. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Hi there,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Hi everyone, French travelers in Chile—what credit cards do you use for your various car rentals in the country? I’m traveling in September and was planning to switch my regular debit card (a VISA PREMIER in deferred debit mode) for the deposit guarantee.
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
Hi everyone, is it still possible to travel in Ecuador outside the Amazon region? If so, do you have a reliable agency to recommend? All your recent experiences from the past few months would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much
Hi,
We’re heading to Buenos Aires for 3 days in November and would like to do a guided tour of a few neighborhoods. There are "free" tours, but none in French. Does anyone have a guide to recommend so we can really get to know the city beyond just the architecture?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m desperately looking for info on the schedules and routes of (shared) boats to visit the islands of Lake Titicaca.
From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Hey everyone,
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
We’re a group of 6 friends with an average age of 70, all mobile, and we’re planning a trip to Peru in September/October 2026. Below is an idea of what we’re looking for: a French-speaking guide, accommodation in 3-star hotels or homestays with comfort.
Duration: 16 to 20 days on-site.
Visit the main sites with immersion in the culture and way of life.
Which francophone agency in Peru would you recommend? Thanks
Hi there!
I’m putting together my itinerary for Brazil, looking for beautiful natural spots with wildlife, flora, and great hikes...
I’ve come across the Cananeia / Super Agui / Ilha do Mel region and the PETAR / Intervales / Alto Ribeira area.
Has anyone here been to these places? If so, do you have any recommendations for accommodations and activities?
Thanks in advance!
Best,
Olivier 🌍
Hello,
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
I’ll be in ARICA in northern Chile at the end of May 2026 and want to get to TACNA. Are there taxis, buses, or collectivos that run the border crossing route?
After that, bus to AREQUIPA (Peru): any bus company you’d recommend?
Hi there,
We’re spending 3 weeks in Brazil, arriving in São Paulo—a couple plus a teen—and we’ll have a rental car.
We especially love nature: hiking, wildlife watching, birds, etc.
We’re planning to wrap up with a week around Paraty and Ilha Grande.
We’re not really into visiting big cities like São Paulo or Rio unless you think we’d be missing out big time.
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
So we’ve got 2 weeks to explore the south/southwest region of São Paulo. What do you recommend? National parks? Off-the-beaten-path nature spots? Iguazu Falls?
Thanks in advance for all your tips!
Hi there,
Do you have any recommendations for comfortable accommodation in Leyva and Barichara? We're also looking for a guide to explore the areas around these two towns (parks, waterfalls, etc.).
Thanks for your tips!
I visited Colombia in January 2016 and I’m heading back from August 6th to 17th with the same airline to see how things have changed. Starting August 18th, I’ll continue with independent exploration. I prefer slow travel and enjoying places at my own pace.
Any tips—especially for getting around or must-see spots—are welcome!
Thu Aug 06. Fly Montreal to Bogotá 20:55-04:05+1 Air Canada Fri Aug 07. Bogotá Sat Aug 08. Bogotá Sun Aug 09. Bogotá Mon Aug 10. Fly Bogotá to Medellín Tue Aug 11. Medellín - Explore Guatapé Wed Aug 12. Comuna 8 & Hill of Values - PM Fly to Pereira Thu Aug 13. Montenegro Fri Aug 14. Salento - Cocora Valley Sat Aug 15. Fly to Cartagena Sun Aug 16. Explore Cartagena Mon Aug 17. Explore Cartagena Tue Aug 18. Fly Cartagena to Cali 12:20-14:55 Latam Wed Aug 19. Cali Thu Aug 20. Cali Fri Aug 21. Cali Sat Aug 22. Bus Cali to Popayán 09:00-13:00 Sun Aug 23. Popayán Mon Aug 24. Popayán Tue Aug 25. Popayán - Day trip to Silvia (Market Day) Wed Aug 26. Overland Popayán to Tierradentro by public transportation 4h, 100km Thu Aug 27. Tierradentro Fri Aug 28. Tierradentro Sat Aug 29. Overland Tierradentro to Garzón via La Plata Sun Aug 30. Bus Garzón to San Agustín 10:30-13:00 Mon Aug 31. San Agustín Tue Sep 01. San Agustín Wed Sep 02. San Agustín Thu Sep 03. San Agustín Fri Sep 04. Overland San Agustín to Tatacoa Desert via Neiva Sat Sep 05. Tatacoa Desert Sun Sep 06. Fly to Bogotá via Neiva 16:00-17:00 Latam Mon Sep 07. Bogotá Tue Sep 08. Fly Bogotá to Montreal 09:00-16:30 Air Canada
Thu Aug 06. Fly Montreal to Bogotá 20:55-04:05+1 Air Canada Fri Aug 07. Bogotá Sat Aug 08. Bogotá Sun Aug 09. Bogotá Mon Aug 10. Fly Bogotá to Medellín Tue Aug 11. Medellín - Explore Guatapé Wed Aug 12. Comuna 8 & Hill of Values - PM Fly to Pereira Thu Aug 13. Montenegro Fri Aug 14. Salento - Cocora Valley Sat Aug 15. Fly to Cartagena Sun Aug 16. Explore Cartagena Mon Aug 17. Explore Cartagena Tue Aug 18. Fly Cartagena to Cali 12:20-14:55 Latam Wed Aug 19. Cali Thu Aug 20. Cali Fri Aug 21. Cali Sat Aug 22. Bus Cali to Popayán 09:00-13:00 Sun Aug 23. Popayán Mon Aug 24. Popayán Tue Aug 25. Popayán - Day trip to Silvia (Market Day) Wed Aug 26. Overland Popayán to Tierradentro by public transportation 4h, 100km Thu Aug 27. Tierradentro Fri Aug 28. Tierradentro Sat Aug 29. Overland Tierradentro to Garzón via La Plata Sun Aug 30. Bus Garzón to San Agustín 10:30-13:00 Mon Aug 31. San Agustín Tue Sep 01. San Agustín Wed Sep 02. San Agustín Thu Sep 03. San Agustín Fri Sep 04. Overland San Agustín to Tatacoa Desert via Neiva Sat Sep 05. Tatacoa Desert Sun Sep 06. Fly to Bogotá via Neiva 16:00-17:00 Latam Mon Sep 07. Bogotá Tue Sep 08. Fly Bogotá to Montreal 09:00-16:30 Air Canada
Hi there,
Three years ago during a trip to Java (no, I didn’t post in the wrong forum!), I came across the address of former miners who had switched to “tourism” and organized nighttime ascents of the Kawah Ijen volcano and descents into the crater.
So I was thinking—maybe there are miners on the salt flats too, either former or still active, who do the same thing. If you’ve had an experience like this, I’d love any tips you can share.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there, since there isn’t much recent info on how to get to MP, I’d love to know if there have been any improvements to the "route" to Hydroelectrica. Is it feasible to drive there in February? And is it still possible to walk all the way to Aguas Calientes? I think I read somewhere that it’s no longer allowed??
Do you think I can buy Machu Picchu entrance tickets last-minute at that time of year, given the weather?
Hello everyone!
A group of friends and I are heading to Brazil in March 2019 and we’d love to attend the Carnival parade. I could really use your help because I’m struggling to find reviews for online ticket sellers for Carnival. I came across rio-carnival—is this a reliable agency? Do you have other agencies to recommend or experiences to share? Any advice is welcome.
Thanks! 🙂 Marine
A group of friends and I are heading to Brazil in March 2019 and we’d love to attend the Carnival parade. I could really use your help because I’m struggling to find reviews for online ticket sellers for Carnival. I came across rio-carnival—is this a reliable agency? Do you have other agencies to recommend or experiences to share? Any advice is welcome.
Thanks! 🙂 Marine