Vêtements à mettre dans la valise au Pérou en août?
by Marmipi
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Je ne vais jamais y arriver . a 15j du départ je ne qais pas encore quoi mettre dans la valise et 23kg ça va vite. Je potasse les site sur le Pérou donc j'ai bien compris c'est l'hiver mais quend je regarde la météo je vois entre 18° et 21° . au secours aidez moi.
voila mon circuit: Lima, Paracas, Nasca, Arequipa, chivay, puno, iles taquille, cusco, machu picchu. voila merci d'avance pour votre aide.
marmipi
Bonjour,
J'étais au Pérou en Juillet 2007. En préparant ma valise, je mettais biafine et debardeur, et mon mari mettait gants et polaire, et on avait tous les 2 raisons.
Dans la journée, il y avait du soleil, et il tape fort le soleil, surtout au Canyon de Colca. Donc t-shirt, crème solaire, lunette de soleil et stick à lèvre (très utiles, surtout à ne pas oublier) Par contre dès que le soleil se couche, on voit qu'on est en hiver, et en plus en altitude. Je mettais damart + t-shirt + pull + polaire + blouson sans avoir trop chaud. Sur place on a acheté de super vestes en alpaga, des gants et des bonnets, et on était bien contents avec tout ça.
Pour le lac Titicaca, prevoit un coupe-vent pour le bateau, il fait super froid. Mon mari était super content d'avoir ses gants de ski.
Donc pas forcément un blouson qui prend de la place, mais une polaire et un coupe-vent, c'est déjà pas mal.
Les chaussures de randos sont utiles, on marche quand même beaucoup. Comme chaussures, je suis partie avec mes chaussures de randos que je mettais tous les jours, et des tongs (qui m'ont servis dans l'oasis du Canyon de Colca)
Coté valise, j'avais un gros sac à dos (50 litres) et un petit sac à dos qui me servait de bagage cabine dans l'avion, de sac pour la journée (avec appareil photo, guide, polaire...) et de sac à dos pour les petites excursions (colca, titicaca, machu picchu) car je laissais le gros sac à l'hotel.
Voila, bonne préparation de voyage !
J'étais au Pérou en Juillet 2007. En préparant ma valise, je mettais biafine et debardeur, et mon mari mettait gants et polaire, et on avait tous les 2 raisons.
Dans la journée, il y avait du soleil, et il tape fort le soleil, surtout au Canyon de Colca. Donc t-shirt, crème solaire, lunette de soleil et stick à lèvre (très utiles, surtout à ne pas oublier) Par contre dès que le soleil se couche, on voit qu'on est en hiver, et en plus en altitude. Je mettais damart + t-shirt + pull + polaire + blouson sans avoir trop chaud. Sur place on a acheté de super vestes en alpaga, des gants et des bonnets, et on était bien contents avec tout ça.
Pour le lac Titicaca, prevoit un coupe-vent pour le bateau, il fait super froid. Mon mari était super content d'avoir ses gants de ski.
Donc pas forcément un blouson qui prend de la place, mais une polaire et un coupe-vent, c'est déjà pas mal.
Les chaussures de randos sont utiles, on marche quand même beaucoup. Comme chaussures, je suis partie avec mes chaussures de randos que je mettais tous les jours, et des tongs (qui m'ont servis dans l'oasis du Canyon de Colca)
Coté valise, j'avais un gros sac à dos (50 litres) et un petit sac à dos qui me servait de bagage cabine dans l'avion, de sac pour la journée (avec appareil photo, guide, polaire...) et de sac à dos pour les petites excursions (colca, titicaca, machu picchu) car je laissais le gros sac à l'hotel.
Voila, bonne préparation de voyage !
Tous mes voyages en images : sur mon blog
Merci tokala je vais de se pas commencer a sortir les habits . ça fais drole de savoir que l'on peux passer des tongs aux polaires. de toute façon si on se laisse avoir par le froid nous achéterons sur place ça ne dois pas être trés cher. donc une valise de 23kg accordé je vais en prévoir que 20kg comme ça si je raméne des souvenirs j'aurai de la marge.Merci encore
marmipi
La polaire, le coupe vent, ce n'est pas lourd... Mon sac ne dépassait pas 11 kilos en partant (et c'est déjà pas mal !)
Et pense aussi que tu peux faire laver ton linge sur place, donc ne t'emcombre pas. En gros j'avais des vetements pour une semaine, alors que je suis aprtie 3 semaines. J'ai fait laver mon linge à Arequipa, à l'hotel (donner un jour, récupéré sec, propre et plié le lendemain). Et également à Cusco, un amtin on a vu pres de notre hotel une pencarte indiquant une laverie, on est entré, une petite fille a pris notre linge, l'a pesé pour nous indiqué le prix. Et le soir on l'a récupéré, tout propre et sec et plié aussi !
Donc ne te charge vraiment pas au départ.
Au retour, il était blindé avec les souvenirs, j'avais même acheté sur un marché un sac en plus pour tout mettre !
Et pense aussi que tu peux faire laver ton linge sur place, donc ne t'emcombre pas. En gros j'avais des vetements pour une semaine, alors que je suis aprtie 3 semaines. J'ai fait laver mon linge à Arequipa, à l'hotel (donner un jour, récupéré sec, propre et plié le lendemain). Et également à Cusco, un amtin on a vu pres de notre hotel une pencarte indiquant une laverie, on est entré, une petite fille a pris notre linge, l'a pesé pour nous indiqué le prix. Et le soir on l'a récupéré, tout propre et sec et plié aussi !
Donc ne te charge vraiment pas au départ.
Au retour, il était blindé avec les souvenirs, j'avais même acheté sur un marché un sac en plus pour tout mettre !
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salut, je viens de rentrer du Perou( regions visitèes :lima-cusco-arequipa-puno, ...). en effet, il y fait bon +/- 20° la journèe ( de 10H à 16H) puis la soirèe c'est plus frais +/- 15 °, et la nuit plus froid ( +/-10°), en altitude en montagne ( à 4700 m) nous avons eu - 15° mais pas de pluie en cette saison puisque c'est l'hiver !
Donc il faut prendre : 1 tee-shirt manche longue + 1 polaire + goretex (coupe-vent) + pantalon + chaussure de marche ( meme en ville c'est bien).
dans les villes ou hotels, on peut faire laver son linge , prix au Kg (+/- 1€), c'est pratique et rapide ! pour le sac, c'est plutot 20 Kg autorisés ?
sinon, ne pas oublier : creme solaire en tube ( si tu crains le soleil), creme pour les levres, lingettes, désinfectant pour les mains, creme pour le nez( narines) car l'air y est tres sec, lunettes de soleil, casquette.
Autre conseil : si tu prends un vol non direct ( changement, correspondance), prend avec toi en cabine, 1 sac à dos avec un necessaire pour au moins 3 jours ( habits + brosse à dents.....) comme cela si ton bagage se perd, tu ne seras pas embetèe !
Merci pour vos bons conseils. Il n'y a plus qu'à. ET effectivement je n'avais pas penser aux hotels pour laver le linge😏 . Super vous êtes formidables
marmipi
salut
j'avais commencé mon 1er voyage en amerique du sud avec 19kg pour 6 semaines, j'en suis maintenant a 8kg, et je ne desespere pas ....
pour 15 j, dernierement j'avais 2kg(mais c'etait en egypte!!)une culotte seche en 3h, a lima ca met 8j!!(tu gagne du temps si tu la mets sous ton matelas😉)
conclusion:tu as des lavanderia partout, on te prend le linge le matin et tu le recupere le soir ou le lendemain, sec et plié
si tu as besoin de quelques choses de plus chaud et/ou plus frais tu achetes sur place.De tte maniere , les pulls sont des "cadeaux " a faire(a se faire)et comme il te faudra les laver pour les offrir(ca sents le fauve parfois!), tu peux tj te les mettre au cas ou!!
une autre chose, il se peut que tu ne recoive pas ton sac , donc prend sur toi(en cabine)l'indispensable et le plus couteux, comme ça tu sauvegarde quelque trucs.. bon voyage a+
une autre chose, il se peut que tu ne recoive pas ton sac , donc prend sur toi(en cabine)l'indispensable et le plus couteux, comme ça tu sauvegarde quelque trucs.. bon voyage a+
mag
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Bonsoir
23 kg ..... mais que mets-tu dans ta valise ????
Mon sac à dos pour 2 mois pesait 11kg avec
Un duvet montagne + sac soie + matelas autogonflant
un anorak de ski + pantalon goretex + bonnet + gants
1 pantalon rando + 2 polaires + 1 carline Millet
2 collants ski + 2 paires chaussettes montagne + une paire de trails
1 tee shirt manches courtes + 1 chemise rando drytex
1 sous vêtement de rechange: slip-soutien gorge
une trousse toilette réduite mais avec 5 tubes crème grasse ou solaire
+ savon et serviette microfibre + nécessaire couture et autre "débrouille"
une gourde Katadyn + une petzl + une couverture survie + couverts
Tous les médicaments dans mon petit sac cabine avec les chargeurs
Pour le voyage : chaussures montagne + pantalon rando + carline
+ grosse polaire millet ... je crois que je n'ai rien oublié
Mon mari avait une tente en plus pour 14 kg au total ....
Même une boîte de foie gras chacun ....😉 pour un cadeau à Lima
Alors peut-être vas-tu faire une selection ....
Bon voyage !!
C B
PS: pour le lavage, à chaque étape un peu structurée, tu essores tes vêtements entre 2 serviettes éponge et tu sèches sur les terrasses des hôtels ... prévoir 1 ficelle et 6 épingles ... Je peux t'assurer qu'au retour on trouve qu'on a plein de choses inutiles chez nous!!
PS: pour le lavage, à chaque étape un peu structurée, tu essores tes vêtements entre 2 serviettes éponge et tu sèches sur les terrasses des hôtels ... prévoir 1 ficelle et 6 épingles ... Je peux t'assurer qu'au retour on trouve qu'on a plein de choses inutiles chez nous!!
Bon je vais faire un sérieux tri car vous êtes nombreux a nous dire que l'on en prend trop . Et comme je l'ai déja signaler dans un post plus haut et auquel je n'avais pas penser je me servirai des laveries des hotels.
Cependant j'ai un autre soucci je lis souvent que les bagages s'égarrent ça me fais peur j'éspére que l'on arrive a les retrouver car c'est un peu embêtant et j'avoue que mon moral en prendrait un coup. Bon te toute façon le plus important sera sur nous.
marmipi
bof, c'est pas un souci.nous sommes devenus les champions des "sacs pas arrivés mais retrouves", soit au bout de 6 semaines(a la reprise de l'avion)soit 3 ou 4 j apres, ou bien, encore mieux, livrés a la maison au retour!!!
tu as ta cb sur toi, c'est le principale!!
et tu verra que voyager leger, leger c'est pas mal du tout😉
effectivement, prend le plus important sur toi, et le plus cher(pour nous, c'etait appareil photos, chaussures de montagne et gilet doudoune)le reste tu peux l'acheter sur place.
si tu n'as pas ton sac en arrivant, pas d'affolement...tu vas au bureau des reclamations, poser ta plainte, avec descriptif de ton sac(ils te monterons des photos)tu donnes ton adresse de l'hotel ou tu descends, et ils te livrerons qd ca arrive.Si ca n'arrive pas, ou bien que tu ne reste pas suffisement longtemps ds cette ville(d'arrivée) tu es en droit de reclamer 60 ou 80$ au bout de 48h, Ns les avions recus au depart(6semaines plus tard, donc)
de tte maniere, apres un premier voyage en amerique du sud, on se rend bien compte que notre vie est pleine de superflue.depuis, nous avons "reduit la voilure" et nous nous en portons plutot bien mieux!! une autre philosophie de vie , nous est apparue comme une evidence
bonne route
mag
http://sudam.canalblog.com (nos voyages en amerique du sud)
http://egyptenliberte.canalblog.com
Cependant j'ai un autre soucci je lis souvent que les bagages s'égarrent ça me fais peur j'éspére que l'on arrive a les retrouver car c'est un peu embêtant et j'avoue que mon moral en prendrait un coup. Bon te toute façon le plus important sera sur nous
Ca peut arriver pour n'importe quelle destination ça... Mes parents ont eu le problème en allant au Canada (Vancouver) et moi j'ai eu 2 fois le problème, mais en revenant en France, donc c'est moins génant. Mais à chaque fois 2 jours après on avait nos affaires. Lorsque ça arrive c'est souvent parceque ce n'est pas à vol direct, et la valise "loupe" la correspondance. Quand je suis allé au Pérou, j'avais une escale à Miami, mais je devais récupérer mon sac avant le 2nd avion, peut-etre que ça a joué pour que je n'ai pas de problème. Enfin ne t'inquiète pas, tu ne peux pas tout prévoir...
Ca peut arriver pour n'importe quelle destination ça... Mes parents ont eu le problème en allant au Canada (Vancouver) et moi j'ai eu 2 fois le problème, mais en revenant en France, donc c'est moins génant. Mais à chaque fois 2 jours après on avait nos affaires. Lorsque ça arrive c'est souvent parceque ce n'est pas à vol direct, et la valise "loupe" la correspondance. Quand je suis allé au Pérou, j'avais une escale à Miami, mais je devais récupérer mon sac avant le 2nd avion, peut-etre que ça a joué pour que je n'ai pas de problème. Enfin ne t'inquiète pas, tu ne peux pas tout prévoir...
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Bonjour
Pas de souci pour nous sur Iberia: Toulouse-Lima avec changement
à Madrid.( sacs étiquetés nom-adresse)
Mais je t'avoue qu'à l'aller j'avais mon duvet avec moi .... en montagne il
m'aurait beaucoup manqué ...
Au retour nous avons eu le vol reporté au lendemain matin mais avec enregistrement des bagages la veille .... Tout était là à l'arrivée à Toulouse ....
Les vêtements coton sont lourds et longs à sécher .... préferer du drytex Bon voyage .... C B
Les vêtements coton sont lourds et longs à sécher .... préferer du drytex Bon voyage .... C B
tu me rassures un peu. Nous aussi on prends un vol Iberia
Lyon madrid madrid lima et nous avons pris l'agence "route des voyages" a toulouse et toi?
marmipi
Non pas d'agence , un vol sec uniquement et tout s'est admirablement
bien passé ... même en montagne ... on aime bien voir sur place et prendre
ce qui se présente sans réserver .
Le retour est toujours difficile pour moi ...
le toit me pèse beaucoup sur la "cabeza" 😉
Bon séjour.
C B
J'appelle Drytex tout ce que tu trouves en textile synthétique technique
au rayon montagne et rando: tee-shirt, short, pantalon rando ...
C'est léger, solide, ça sèche très vite et ça ne prend pas de place ....
C B
il y a de grosses promo chez ontario, ou decath en ce moment(pour peut que tu es la taille adequate)du genre /maillot a 2 €
c'est vrai , ca seche hyper vite et c'est leger, de plus tu peux t'en mettre plusieurs couches (c'est ce qui rechauffe le mieux)plutot qu'un pull epais
bonne route
mag
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So, what do you think? Is this doable, or should we tweak it? Thanks in advance for your invaluable feedback and tips! 🙂
Below is our draft itinerary (with questions at each stop):
29/11: France → Colombia. Overnight in Bogotá. 30/11: Exploring Bogotá: La Candelaria and Montserrate. 01/12: Gold Museum (closed on Mondays). Drive to Zipaquirá (1.5 hrs) to visit the Salt Cathedral. Then drive to Villa de Leyva (3 hrs). Explore the town. Overnight in Villa de Leyva. 02/12: Return to Bogotá via Laguna de Guatavita (5 hrs). Is it worth the detour? Overnight in Bogotá. 03/12: Flight to Pereira. Drive to Salento. Overnight in Salento. 04/12: Cocora Valley (hike among the wax palms) followed by a drive around the area. Are there any waterfalls or other sights nearby? 05/12: Visit a coffee finca—any recommendations? Then explore the surroundings: Filandia, Manizales, waterfalls? Hot springs? Which ones? 06/12: Flight to Medellín. 07/12: Exploring Medellín: Centro, Plaza Botero, Comuna 13. How do you visit Comuna 13? Is it easy to get around Medellín? Metro? Buses? 08/12: Drive to Guatapé (2 hrs). Visit the town, stroll around the lake, then El Peñol. Overnight in Guatapé. 09/12: Return to Medellín. 10/12: Flight to Santa Marta. Drive to a hotel near Tayrona Park. 11/12: Tayrona—El Zaino entrance. 12/12: Tayrona—Palangana entrance, then Bahia Concha and Santa Marta. What do you think? 13/12: Drive to Minca (45 mins). Can we reach the village by car? Pozo Azul and Marinka waterfalls. Overnight in Minca (or back in Tayrona?). 14/12: Drive to Puerto Nao (5 hrs). Stop in Ciénaga on the way + boat tour in Nueva Venecia and/or Buena Vista? Not enough time? Overnight in Puerto Nao. 15/12: Exploring Cartagena: Centro, Getsemaní, the walls + La Boquilla if we have time. 16/12: La Boquilla (is it really worth it?) if we didn’t have time yesterday, then back to the beach. 17/12: Return to France.
So, what do you think? Is this doable, or should we tweak it? Thanks in advance for your invaluable feedback and tips! 🙂
Hi there, I’ll be in Brazil from December 10th to the end of February.
I’ve sketched out a rough itinerary but I’m not sure how to arrange it—considering the climate, year-end holidays, and Carnival.
Basically, I’m thinking of the Amazon, the Northeast coast with Lençóis Maranhenses National Park (but skipping Chapada Diamantina),
Ouro Preto, Paraty, and Ilha Grande—but no Rio visit.
Is this doable in 3 months?
Which direction should I take for this itinerary?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone, does anyone know the agency Ventura Travel Agency (not ventura travel)? After lots of research and quotes, it’s the only one offering Uyuni at a reasonable price while meeting all the criteria: transfer to the border, private-room accommodation, and a very fair rate. Other agencies or guides either offer shared rooms, no border transfer, or prices that are way too high. But I’d love to hear some reviews about this agency. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
We're planning a trip to Chile to visit the Atacama Desert and then head toward Putre, Lauca, Salar de Surire, etc.
Which would be the better time to go, April or November?
Is an SUV enough?
Looking forward to your tips!
Hi, I'm looking for a local agency in Uyuni to do the trip and tours from Uyuni to San Pedro de Atacama. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Hi there,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Could you recommend any car rental agencies in Calama and Punta Arenas? Best regards,
Hi everyone, French travelers in Chile—what credit cards do you use for your various car rentals in the country? I’m traveling in September and was planning to switch my regular debit card (a VISA PREMIER in deferred debit mode) for the deposit guarantee.
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
My rentals are with Figal in Punta Arenas, Econautos in Arica, and Chilean Rent a Car in Temuco, and all of them want the deposit on a credit card. For me, deferred debit *should* work, but I’ve read comments saying the opposite.
How’s it actually working on the ground with these rental companies right now? Will a deferred debit card work, or not at all?
In France, banks don’t issue credit cards, right—or am I mistaken?
Thanks for your help!
Hi everyone, is it still possible to travel in Ecuador outside the Amazon region? If so, do you have a reliable agency to recommend? All your recent experiences from the past few months would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much
Hi,
We’re heading to Buenos Aires for 3 days in November and would like to do a guided tour of a few neighborhoods. There are "free" tours, but none in French. Does anyone have a guide to recommend so we can really get to know the city beyond just the architecture?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m desperately looking for info on the schedules and routes of (shared) boats to visit the islands of Lake Titicaca.
From what I’ve found, there’s a *combi* (bus) that leaves from Puno to go to Llachon. Where do you catch it? What are the schedules and frequency? Does it take about 1 hour?
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Then in Llachon, you can take a boat to Amantani (45 min). Same question—where do you check for frequency and schedule? After that, from Amantani, boats go to Taquile and then Uros. Do you have enough time to visit the islands between two boats? Frequency and schedule?
The goal is to do this tour independently (no agency) over 2 days. Thanks for any tips you might have!
Hey everyone,
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
I just got back from a trip to Bolivia and wow—what a wake-up call. It’s not the easiest country, but it’s absolutely stunning.
I started with Isla del Sol, perfect for easing into the altitude at a relaxed pace. Try to stay in the northern part of the island—it’s quieter and the views are insane. And the trout there? Unreal. Quick tip: bring cash in small bills; they almost never have change, and cards are rarely accepted.
Next up, La Paz. The city’s pretty wild, built in every direction. I did a few hikes in the area, including the famous Charquini Lagoon (the blue lake) at over 5,000 m—let’s just say I struggled 😅 but it was so beautiful it was totally worth it.
After that, I headed to Sajama. It’s cool, especially for the hot springs, and I stayed in Tomarapi. But honestly, if you’re short on time, you can skip it without too many regrets.
The highlight of the trip: the Salar. I did it starting from Tupiza, and I *highly* recommend going Tupiza → Uyuni. Way less crowded at the start and the landscapes are super varied. For the tour, I used SplitYourGuide to find a group, and it worked out great. Super handy for splitting costs and meeting people.
I wrapped up in Sucre—this city is gorgeous, all white, with such a chill vibe. And the salteñas + ice cream? Next level 😋
Bottom line: Bolivia’s a bit rough around the edges, sometimes exhausting (shoutout to the altitude), but it’s 1000% worth it.
If you’ve got questions or need tips, I’m happy to help! Martin
hi,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
I was planning to go to Réunion and stay in half-board accommodation with non-professionals, but it seems that’s not really the custom there—or maybe my budget isn’t big enough.
So, since I’ve already traveled around Ecuador and Peru, I’m now looking at Argentina, especially for its mountains (like the ones in Réunion that tempted me, even though—frustratingly—I could only admire them from below).
I plan to get around by bus and don’t know in advance where I’ll sleep, so I won’t book ahead. If I like a place, I might stay for several days.
I know that in Chile, it’s easy to find half-board accommodation, but what about in Argentina?
I’d like to stay with locals in half-board without it being a professional setup. I’m not sure if this is common practice there. It’s up to me to find someone willing to host me. What do you think? What would be a fair price (keeping in mind that 40 to 50 € is the max I can spend on accommodation, breakfast, and dinner)?
Looking forward to your feedback.
Best regards,
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Patagonia for three weeks in November, starting from Coyhaique in Chile.
We won’t have a car, and I’m struggling to find information about transportation options for a few parts of the itinerary we’d like to do:
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
1) From Perito Moreno (the town, near Los Antiguos), we’d like to travel down Ruta 40 to visit Perito Moreno National Park and then cross into Chile via the Paso Roballos (at the latitude of Bajo Caracoles) to reach the road to Cochrane. Without a car, it seems we’ll need to use private agencies to get to the national park—do you have any recommendations or suggestions? Also, does anyone know if it’s possible to cross into Chile via Paso Roballos (from Bajo Caracoles) without a rental car? That is, without having to go all the way down to El Chaltén or back up toward Perito Moreno/Los Antiguos, etc.?
2) The second stretch that seems a bit tricky (though still easier, in theory) is from Caleta Tortel to Villa O’Higgins on the Chilean side. Do we have to go back through Cochrane, or are there ways to get directly from Tortel to Villa O’Higgins?
3) Finally, we’d like to hike into Argentina (El Chaltén) from O’Higgins. Any recommendations for this? Do we need to go through an agency? What’s the estimated duration of the trek?
As you’ve probably gathered, we want to visit some off-the-beaten-path spots but don’t have a car, so we’re looking for the best possible compromises.
Thanks so much in advance for all your suggestions! Thomas
Hi,
we’re planning a round trip from San Pedro de Atacama, Chile, to Salta, Argentina, in two months. On the way there, we’ll take the northern route via Susques, Route 27, then 52. But for the return, we were thinking of taking the southern route via San Antonio de los Cobres, Route 51, then 23. Is it similar to the northern route in terms of road surface? How busy is it, and are there gas stations? Basically, should we be worried about doing it in an SUV that’s supposedly 4x4 but has regular road tires and no second spare wheel, obviously...
I’ve seen that we can stop over in San Antonio de los Cobres.
Thanks for your feedback.
Raf.
Hi,
we’ll be in Calama at the end of March 2026, and I’m looking for a reliable car rental there for a 7-day road trip to Salta, Argentina. But I’m struggling with the car rental agencies in Calama because the reviews can be scary. I saw Gyg, which has great ratings, but I’m a bit wary (5/5 from 59 reviews—either the guy’s amazing or it’s fake...), but I can’t find any recent reviews on VF in general.
For Punta Arenas, I booked with Dachelet and didn’t have any issues with email exchanges.
Thanks in advance.
Raf.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
I’m planning the trip of my dreams for next November—Chile! I’d love to get your thoughts on my potential itinerary. I know it’s a big investment in terms of both time and money, so every bit of feedback, suggestion, or info helps immensely. Thank you in advance!!
1-Flight to Santiago
2-Explore Santiago
3-Explore Santiago
4-Bus from STG to Valpo (2h) + visit Valparaíso + night in Viña
5-Visit Valparaíso + bus back to STG (2h)
6-Flight to Calama + bus to San Pedro + explore and acclimate in San Pedro + car rental in the afternoon (+Chaxa?)
7-(Very early) Valle del Arcoíris + Laguna Cejar + Valle de la Luna
8-Laguna Miñiques & Miscanti + Salar de Talar + Laguna Tuyajto
9-Geysers El Tatio early in the morning + Cañón de Guatín + return car
10-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
11-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
12-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni
13-Excursion to Salar de Uyuni + return to San Pedro for the night
14-Bus to Calama + flight Calama-La Serena + explore La Serena
15-Excursion to Reserva Pingüino + bonus time (sunset at Playa Tongoy or elsewhere...)
16-Rent a car in Pisco Elqui & Vicuña + Observatory
17-Return car in La Serena + flight Santiago & Puerto Montt (4h)
18-Rent a 4x2 car + drive to Temuco (4h)
19-Reserva Nacional Malalcahuello + hike + night in Temuco
20-Parque Nacional Conguillío then drive and night in Pucón
21-Villarrica Volcano
22-Parque Huerquehue
23-Activities on-site
24-Drive to Valdivia + explore and night there
25-Drive to Puerto Varas (via Frutillar, etc.) + activities on-site
26-Salto Las Cascadas + Parque Nacional Vicente Pérez Rosales (Salto del Petrohué) + Canoeing/Rafting?
27-Drive to Parque Alerce Andino (round trip 3h) + hike Sendero Sargazo?
28-Drive to Castro + explore Chiloé and night in Castro
29-Explore Chiloé
30-Explore Chiloé + return to Puerto Varas
31-Drive to Cochamó (1h30) + drive to Hornopirén (2h30)
32-Ferry to Caleta Gonzalo + drive to Chaitén (1h20)
33-Parque Nacional Pumalín, night in Chaitén
34-Drive to Puyuhuapi + Sendero Ventisquero Yelcho?
35-Ventisquero Colgante + drive to Coyhaique
36-Drive to Villa Cerro Castillo
37-Hike Cerro Castillo
38-Drive to Puerto Río Tranquilo
39-Excursion to Glaciar Exploradores
40-Mármol Cathedral + lake activities
41-Drive to Cochrane
42-Parque Patagonia
43-Drive to Chile Chico
44-Ferry Chile Chico-Ibañez + drive to Coyhaique + drop off car
45-Flight to Punta Arenas (1h30) + explore the city
46-Rent a car + drive to Puerto Natales
47-Drive to Torres del Paine in the morning + hike to the base of the towers (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
48-Torres del Paine hike 2 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
49-Torres del Paine hike 3 (return to Puerto Natales for the night)
50-Drive to Punta Arenas
51-Flight Punta Arenas-Santiago + flight Santiago-Buenos Aires (2h)
52-Explore Buenos Aires
53-Explore Buenos Aires
54-Explore Buenos Aires
55-Flight back to France
Good evening,
We’d love to go in November to enjoy some beautiful beaches for about two weeks, preferably around Bahia, as November/December seems like a great time.
We’ve already traveled to Brazil several times and know the south of Rio as well as the region between São Luís and Fortaleza, and Chapada Diamantina...
What advice would you give us: the south with Itaparica, Morro de São Paulo, Boipeba, Barra Grande—or all four? Or maybe the north?
Thanks in advance for your help
Hi everyone, it’s been a while since I last posted!
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
First time in South America for me, my wife, and our 7-year-old son. I’ve put together this itinerary and would love to hear your thoughts:
Bogotá 28/07 – 30/07: Arrival. Which neighborhood and outings would you recommend? Flight to
2 Filandia 30/07 – 03/08: (255 €). Waterfalls and horseback riding, Cocora Valley, Hiking, Nearby villages. Flight to 3 Tayrona 03/08 – 07/08: Hotel La Casablanca
Hike with Tierra Nevada and the Kogui village (any feedback?). Return by inner tube for the little one. Short night hike. Second hike to La Piscina, etc., return by 🐎.
4 Cartagena 07/08 – 10/08: Air-conditioned bus. Staying in Getsemaní? Mangroves & the Castle, exploring the city.
5 Bogotá 10/08 – 12/08
Feel free to share your feedback! Have a great day!
Seb
Hi,
During an upcoming trip to Peru, we’ll have one day to explore around Arequipa (excluding Colca Canyon) with a car and driver.
We’ve got a few options:
- Toro Muerto petroglyphs and dinosaur footprints at Querulpa
- Ruta del Sillar and Quebrada de Culebrillas
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri
What do you think? Any recommendations?
Thanks in advance! Larri





