Voyage à Hurghada: votre avis?
by JulesPr57
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour a tous,
Voila nous avons réservé il y a 2 mois des vacances dans un club hotel a Hurghada (Iberotel Aquamarine Resort 5*) pour une famille de 4 personnes du samedi 3 au samedi 17 aout pour un départ depuis Bruxelles (Jet Air).Compte tenu des événements actuel en Egypte et apres avoir lu les consignes de securité du consulat de france au caire, j'aimerais avoir votre avis sur le depart, si ce n'est pas trop risqué sachant que NOUS RESTERONS A L'HOTEL durant ces 15 jours, nous ne sortiront donc pas du tout car c'est bien trop dangereux sauf aéroport de Hurghada/hotel et hotel/aéroport de Hurghada biensur!Nous tenons beaucoup a ce voyage donc j'aimerais savoir ce que vous en pensiez
Merci et bonne soirée a vous,
Cordialement
PS:Le cout total du voyage est déja réglé
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Bonjour ! 🙂
Je pense qu'il va être assez difficile pour toi d'obtenir une réponse précise sur la "dangerosité" d'un voyage en Égypte : de ce que j'ai pu lire à droite à gauche personne n'ose vraiment ce prononcer. Ce qui est normal, déconseillé trop fortement les voyages c'est provoqué indirectement la ruine potentielle de pas mal de gens sur place... à ce propos un extrait d'un petit article :
L'Égypte désertée par les Français depuis le printemps arabe Plus de deux ans après le printemps arabe, cette nouvelle crise égyptienne n'affole pas les voyagistes. «Nous avons très peu de clients sur place, l'Égypte étant plutôt une destination d'hiver pour les Français», assure le secrétaire général du Snav. D'une manière générale, les touristes de l'Hexagone ne sont jamais vraiment revenus dans le pays. «Le consommateur est resté très frileux à cause de l'insécurité qui règne en Égypte», notait récemment Serge Laurens, directeur marketing de Fram. D'après le Ceto, le trafic vers l'Égypte a encore reculé de 45,8 % cet hiver par rapport à l'année précédente. La France, qui était dans le top 5 en nombre de touristes en Égypte, ne figure même plus dans les dix premiers pays, relève l'hebdomadaire égyptien Al-Ahram hebdo.
Source : http://www.lefigaro.fr/societes/2013/07/04/20005-20130704ARTFIG00372-egypte-les-voyagistes-commencent-a-suspendre-la-destination.php
Bon, d'un autre côté conseiller le voyage c'est aussi prendre le risque de se planter, et s'avancer alors même qu'on ignore ce qu'il peut se passer... à mon humble avis le voyageur lambda n'a rien à craindre tant qu'il est vigilant et qu'il se tient bien éloigné des manifestations (ou tout du moins c'est mon impression personnelle de loin loin loin). Même aux pires moments de la Révolution de 2011 je ne crois pas avoir entendu parlé d'un seul touriste blessé (si quelqu'un peut confirmer/infirmer je ne serais pas contre d'ailleurs).
Bref, personnellement je compte partir en octobre et sauf guerre civile ou graves troubles, je partirai quoi qu'il en soit, mais je doute que qui que ce soit veuille te dire "oui vas-y, les risques sont minimes", vu la vitesse à laquelle les choses évolues...
En gros tu n'es pas plus avancé qu'avant, mais je suis sûr qu'il y a des gens mieux informés qui vont passer dans le coin^^
Je pense qu'il va être assez difficile pour toi d'obtenir une réponse précise sur la "dangerosité" d'un voyage en Égypte : de ce que j'ai pu lire à droite à gauche personne n'ose vraiment ce prononcer. Ce qui est normal, déconseillé trop fortement les voyages c'est provoqué indirectement la ruine potentielle de pas mal de gens sur place... à ce propos un extrait d'un petit article :
L'Égypte désertée par les Français depuis le printemps arabe Plus de deux ans après le printemps arabe, cette nouvelle crise égyptienne n'affole pas les voyagistes. «Nous avons très peu de clients sur place, l'Égypte étant plutôt une destination d'hiver pour les Français», assure le secrétaire général du Snav. D'une manière générale, les touristes de l'Hexagone ne sont jamais vraiment revenus dans le pays. «Le consommateur est resté très frileux à cause de l'insécurité qui règne en Égypte», notait récemment Serge Laurens, directeur marketing de Fram. D'après le Ceto, le trafic vers l'Égypte a encore reculé de 45,8 % cet hiver par rapport à l'année précédente. La France, qui était dans le top 5 en nombre de touristes en Égypte, ne figure même plus dans les dix premiers pays, relève l'hebdomadaire égyptien Al-Ahram hebdo.
Source : http://www.lefigaro.fr/societes/2013/07/04/20005-20130704ARTFIG00372-egypte-les-voyagistes-commencent-a-suspendre-la-destination.php
Bon, d'un autre côté conseiller le voyage c'est aussi prendre le risque de se planter, et s'avancer alors même qu'on ignore ce qu'il peut se passer... à mon humble avis le voyageur lambda n'a rien à craindre tant qu'il est vigilant et qu'il se tient bien éloigné des manifestations (ou tout du moins c'est mon impression personnelle de loin loin loin). Même aux pires moments de la Révolution de 2011 je ne crois pas avoir entendu parlé d'un seul touriste blessé (si quelqu'un peut confirmer/infirmer je ne serais pas contre d'ailleurs).
Bref, personnellement je compte partir en octobre et sauf guerre civile ou graves troubles, je partirai quoi qu'il en soit, mais je doute que qui que ce soit veuille te dire "oui vas-y, les risques sont minimes", vu la vitesse à laquelle les choses évolues...
En gros tu n'es pas plus avancé qu'avant, mais je suis sûr qu'il y a des gens mieux informés qui vont passer dans le coin^^
Merci bien pour ta réponse j'attends tout de meme d'autres avis
Je pense et j'espere ne pas me tromper, hurghada etant quand meme a presque 500 kilometres du Caire, Nous ne risquons pas grand chose puisque nous resterons a l'hotel durant les 15 jours.Nous ne sommes donc pas exposés aux eventuels risques qu'il puisse y avoir et aux manifestations entre pro et anti Morsi.
Cordialement
bonsoir,
autant je ne vous recommanderais pas Le Caire, et surtout pas Alexandrie, encore moins le Sinaï
mais en ce qui concerne, la côte Ouest de la Mer Rouge, vous pouvez y aller en confiance, MAIS VOUS RESTEZ dans cette zone
qui va de Hurghada jusqu'à Marsa Alam, en passant par Al Qusair
vous passerez de très bonnes vacances, et vous serez choyés par les Égyptiens, trop heureux de voir des gens qui viennent malgré tout
actuellement nous sommes à Paris, mais en communication journalière (viber et messenger) avec "le Caire" et "Sohag"
où notre famille égyptienne réside, ce qui nous donne une bonne idée de la situation, vue de l'intérieur 😉
à +
Dom
Dom
Je viens juste de recevoir un appel d'une amie en vacances à Hurghada.Ces 2 derniers jours, il y a eu des manifs et troubles, mais elle ne s'est pas sentie en danger.Nul ne sait comment cela tournera, d'ici quelques jours, on devrait y voir plus clair.Cette amie est enchantée de son séjour cependant.
Merci bien pour ta réponse j'attends tout de meme d'autres avis
Pas certain que les avis sur la situation passée , mm récente, soit d'une grande aide pour prendre une décision même si on parle bcp du Caire il y a eu, et il y a encore, des manifestations dans d'autres villes inclus Hurghada comme déjà évoqué! Le pbl majeur est que lors de la 1ere "révolution" il n'y avait pratiquement qu’un seul bloc "d'antis" cette fois ci il y a les "antis" et les "pros" face a face donc personne est capable de dire l’évolution des choses a court/moyen terme ! Les TO n'ont pour le moment comme recommandations / instructions que d'annuler tout ce qui va ou passe par le Caire (hors simples transits aériens) et pour le reste, rester strictement dans les zones hôtelières.... donc +/- plus d'excursions ! Comme visiblement c'est déjà ton choix de rester a l’hôtel, tu n'as pas beaucoup a craindre sauf peut être des désagréments liés a des restrictions de circulation !
A toi de voir mais d'ici début août la situation sera soit calmée, soit et ce n'est pas a espérer, devenue incontrôlable et de tte façon dans ce cas TO annuleront les voyages ils sont responsables de leurs clients !
Pas certain que les avis sur la situation passée , mm récente, soit d'une grande aide pour prendre une décision même si on parle bcp du Caire il y a eu, et il y a encore, des manifestations dans d'autres villes inclus Hurghada comme déjà évoqué! Le pbl majeur est que lors de la 1ere "révolution" il n'y avait pratiquement qu’un seul bloc "d'antis" cette fois ci il y a les "antis" et les "pros" face a face donc personne est capable de dire l’évolution des choses a court/moyen terme ! Les TO n'ont pour le moment comme recommandations / instructions que d'annuler tout ce qui va ou passe par le Caire (hors simples transits aériens) et pour le reste, rester strictement dans les zones hôtelières.... donc +/- plus d'excursions ! Comme visiblement c'est déjà ton choix de rester a l’hôtel, tu n'as pas beaucoup a craindre sauf peut être des désagréments liés a des restrictions de circulation !
A toi de voir mais d'ici début août la situation sera soit calmée, soit et ce n'est pas a espérer, devenue incontrôlable et de tte façon dans ce cas TO annuleront les voyages ils sont responsables de leurs clients !
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
... pour completer mon post précédent le mieux, en cas de voyage organisé, est en 1er de regarder sur le site du CETO, (Association de Tour-Opérateurs) les dispositions prises par la profession
http://www.ceto.to/home.do;jsessionid=A05651B340AA49B81F8D9059F219C393.Moons_b3_1_Front1
http://www.ceto.to/home.do;jsessionid=A05651B340AA49B81F8D9059F219C393.Moons_b3_1_Front1
Bon voyage et surtout voyagez zen!
Michel France (85)
😉 Hello, Pour ma part j'ai réservé aussi 10 jours à ourghada pour fin août. Je pensais faire 1 excursion au Caire. Sans soucis nous pouvons nous rendre à l'heure actuelle à Urghada , mais par contre je ne vais pas tenter le diable et faire mon excursion. Je pars oui mais je reste dans le complexe hôtelier. Avez vous eu des nouvelles de votre agence ? je vous souhaite de très belles vacances, dans cette magnifique région
Bonjour et merci pour vos réponses,
Jai en effet eu des reponses de Jet Air car sur leur site, il est écrit que tout les complexes hotelier se situant a Hurghada proposé par l'agence etait sans risques et sécurisé pour les touristes.
D'autre part Le conseil de voyage du ministère belge des Affaires étrangères ne deconseille pas cette déstination (Hurghada), nous pouvons donc partir sereinement en restant dans le complexe
Cdlt
Bonjour!
Je suis rentré il y a deux jours d'une semaine à Hurghada avec Jet air (hotel Steigenberger al dau beach) et je peux vous assurer qu'il n'y a eu absolument aucun problème. Notre famille en Belgique était plus au courant que nous de ce qui se passait. En revanche , peu de monde dans l'hotel (beaucoup de russes mal élevés!!) et le personnel à l'aéroport assez désagréable mais on était au coucher du soleil le deuxième jour du ramadan...
Quoi qu'il en soit si la situation n'escalade pas je crois qu'il n'y a pas de soucis à se rendre dans cette région.
Bonjour Nelson,
Je pars du 04 au 18 septembre à Hurghada, sans TO, j'ai acheté uniquement les billets d'avion pour le moment. Et justement je pensais réserver 1 semaine à l'hotel Steigenberger al dau beach, mais vu le prix en all inclusive 😠 je réfléchi un peu, et est ce que je peux te demander ce que tu en as pensé ? Est ce vraiment un très bel hôtel ? Moi c'est la piscine qui me fait rêver ...... Merci :)
Je pars du 04 au 18 septembre à Hurghada, sans TO, j'ai acheté uniquement les billets d'avion pour le moment. Et justement je pensais réserver 1 semaine à l'hotel Steigenberger al dau beach, mais vu le prix en all inclusive 😠 je réfléchi un peu, et est ce que je peux te demander ce que tu en as pensé ? Est ce vraiment un très bel hôtel ? Moi c'est la piscine qui me fait rêver ...... Merci :)
Bonjour!
Oui , c'est vraiment un très bel hotel. Rien à redire tout est quasi parfait! Nous avions une chambre luxe , face à la mer , très spacieuse , grand écran plat , sdb avec douche et baignoire..le top . Super propre. Un hall d'entrée gigantesque! Niveau nourriture , rien à redire nous étions en all in et nous n'avons pas mangé deux jours de suite la même chose!
Les jardins sont super bien entretenus (peut être un peu trop.. bruit de tondeuse tous les jours!!. Piscine gigantesque avec une lazzy river de 500 m où se laisser flotter sur les bouées. Belle plage de sable mais n'espérez pas faire du snorkelling sur place , il n'y a rien à voir sous l'eau , d'ailleurs très peu profonde (max 1 m)
Quelques petits points négatifs tout de même :il faut signer des souches pour toutes les boissons (je n'en vois pas l'utilité vu le all in..à part peut être un contrôle du personnel..) , personnel pas vraiment souriant à quelques exceptions près (mais c'était peut être dû à la situation dans le pays ...) et , mais ce n'est pas leur faute la disco de l'hotel juste à coté vraiment très bruyante!!.
Pour info nous avons payé 1000 euros par personne en all in pour une semaine. Je ne pense pas que vous arriverez à faire moins cher en achetant billet d'avion et hotel séparément... Les prix affichés pour la chambre d'hotel que nous avions étaient de 160 euros la nuit , sans les repas...
Merci beaucoup Nelson pour tes impressions.
Nous partons 2 semaines c'est pourquoi j'ai pris vol et hôtel séparés, 2 semaines au Al Dau Beach c'était pas possible pour mes finances 😕 , donc je vais faire 2 hôtel différents : le Al Dau Beach et sûrement le Mercure.
J'attends encore un peu, ils vont peut-être faire des promos s'ils ont peu de réservations suite à l'instabilité qui règne dans le pays !!!!
Bonjour,
J'ai été en egypte 3 fois, également à l'iberotel aquamarine en 2011, (hotel magnifique, belle architecture, nouritture correcte...) Je suis allé en egypte en famille sur la fin Avril, nous avons eu l'occasion de nous promenés le soir entre 20heures et minuit. Aucun signe d'agression, les commercants habitants sont chalereux, agrébles. Vous n'avez pas d'aprioris à avoir. La télévision abuse dans ses reportages.
J'ai été en egypte 3 fois, également à l'iberotel aquamarine en 2011, (hotel magnifique, belle architecture, nouritture correcte...) Je suis allé en egypte en famille sur la fin Avril, nous avons eu l'occasion de nous promenés le soir entre 20heures et minuit. Aucun signe d'agression, les commercants habitants sont chalereux, agrébles. Vous n'avez pas d'aprioris à avoir. La télévision abuse dans ses reportages.
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Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
I’m finalizing the loop I’d like to do in May over 13 days, starting and ending in Essaouira.
We’re planning to rent a vehicle and are pretty active—we’re not really into crowds (that’s why I’ve decided to skip Marrakech).
Here’s my proposed itinerary:
Trip Proposal Summary: From May 13 (morning arrival) to May 26 (morning departure) Arrival and departure: Essaouira Day 1 (May 13): Arrival in Essaouira – Settling in / Exploring / Rest Day 2 (May 14): Essaouira – Water activities Day 3 (May 15): Essaouira to Tafraoute (~5h30) – route via Agadir – arrival and first exploration; Question: Is a detour to Taroudant worth considering? Day 4 (May 16): Tafraoute – Hike in the granite rocks – wild bivouac Day 5 (May 17): Tafraoute – Aït Mansour gorges – oasis – night in a hostel Day 6 (May 18): Tafraoute → Foum Zguid (~5h) – transition route – simple overnight or bivouac Day 7 (May 19): Foum Zguid → Zagora (~3h) – Draa Valley – desert prep Day 8 (May 20): Zagora → M'Hamid El Ghizlane → Erg Chigaga – departure with 4x4 guide – entering the dunes – bivouac Day 9 (May 21): Erg Chigaga – full desert day – walking, exploring – bivouac Day 10 (May 22): Desert → Ouarzazate (~5–6h) – leaving the desert – rest Day 11 (May 23): Aït Benhaddou – early visit – short hike – overnight stay Day 12 (May 24): Aït Benhaddou → Telouet – route toward the Atlas – start of trek – bivouac Day 13 (May 25): Atlas → Essaouira (~5–6h) – end of trek – return to Essaouira (overnight) Day 14 (May 26): Essaouira – free time + return flight
What do you think?
I aimed for an excursion to the Chigaga desert from M’Hamid because it seems less touristy and allows for a more compact loop. Is that a good idea? Is the drive to M’Hamid maybe too tedious?
Open to your great tips if there’s room for optimization!
All ears! :)
Thanks in advance and have a great day!
Clément
A lot of people find it important to stick to their budget when traveling—not to skimp, but to visit as many places as possible since traveling is their hobby.
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
In this post, I want to share some tips for those coming to Morocco who want their trip to be budget-friendly.
1. Prebook everything: hotels or riads, car rentals, or tours. If you book these in advance, it’ll make your life easier. You won’t have to deal with hagglers or people trying to overcharge you for services that are available online for free. Use platforms like Booking, Expedia, carsrental.ma, Airbnb, and other booking services to get this done properly.
2. Exchange your money to Moroccan dirhams as soon as you land. 1 € is always a little over 10 dirhams, but many people get charged as if it were exactly 10 dirhams per euro.
3. When visiting an old site or the old medina, avoid talking to vendors and shop owners—they’re really good at getting your attention and making you overpay for things.
4. Ask your tour guide to buy things for you. Yes, they do get a commission, but you’ll probably pay way more if you buy something yourself that they can get cheaply.
5. Walk everywhere. You don’t need a taxi for every little trip. Pick a good location and walk—most Moroccan cities are safe during normal hours.
6. Buy your food, drinks, etc., from supermarkets at normal prices. They can’t overcharge you since they scan every product.
I think that’s it for now.
Take care
Hi everyone! 😊
We’re traveling as a family to Marrakech from April 19 to 24, and there’ll be 15 of us (all ages), staying in the Targa neighborhood (El Idrissi Street).
I’d love your advice on a few things! 🙏
🚗 Vehicle rental
We’re thinking of renting 3 cars. We’ve seen really low prices online, but often without insurance.
👉 Do you have any reliable contacts or personal experiences to share?
👉 Would you recommend getting specific “tourist” insurance?
🏛️ Visits – Bahia Palace & Saadian Tombs
We’d like to visit the Bahia Palace and the Saadian Tombs, but:
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
We can’t find single tickets online We only see guided tours with fixed times (like 9:30 AM / 4-hour tours)
👉 Do you know if it’s possible to book without a guide? 👉 Or do we have to buy tickets on-site? (We’re a little worried about crowds and lines, especially with older folks in the group.) 🍽️ Restaurants / meals We’ve spotted the Grand Bazaar Marrakech for a meal. 👉 Any thoughts? 👉 Could you recommend other restaurants in the same budget? (We’re a big group, so it needs to stay reasonable.) For lunch/snacks, we’ve seen:
Snack Toubkal Goûter Saveur
👉 If anyone’s been, I’d love your feedback! 😊 🛒 Practical info – Targa neighborhood We’ll be in Targa (El Idrissi Street). 👉 Are there shops nearby for quick groceries (breakfast, water, etc.)?
If you’ve got any great tips, contacts, or little tricks, I’d love to hear them! 😍 Thanks so much for your help! 💖
As-salamu alaykum!
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
We’re heading to Morocco as a family from April 22 to May 8. It’s a bit short to explore such a beautiful and vast country, but school and work commitments, you know how it is... My partner is a musician and absolutely loves Gnawa music. Unfortunately, we won’t have time to visit Essaouira, as we’re heading south toward the Valley of the Roses...
Do you know of any places around Marrakech, Ouarzazate, or Kelaat M’Gouna where we might have the chance to meet Gnawa musicians? We’ll also be staying a few days in Aït Benhaddou and Skoura during our trip toward the Dadès Valley. If you have any good spots to buy a guembri along the way, I’d love to hear about them too! :)
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Mathieu
Mid-May: arriving alone (so, a "petit taxi"?) at Marrakech airport around 4:30 PM,
is it advisable to take a taxi at the airport (cost?) or is it wiser to book one through the hotel before departure (which would cost me 20 €)?
I think I’ve seen lower fares elsewhere (12 €?).
Destination: Riad Sijane near Djemaa El Fna square. Thanks!
hi there
we’re heading to Hammamet in a few months
what would you recommend visiting for a week?
best regards
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
I’m leaving for Tunisia in five weeks for a full 15-day trip. I’ll be arriving in Monastir and departing from there as well.
I’d like to do a route that’s a bit different from my first stay, which was more focused on cities and culture (Tunis, Sousse, Kairouan, El Jem).
I’ll be getting around by public transport.
I’d like to head south toward Tozeur, and I saw that you can take a *louage* from Monastir to Sbeitla (2h30). I imagine it’s not too complicated to get to Tozeur from there afterward? The issue is the return trip to Monastir and safety in Sbeitla.
If this route seems too complicated, I might opt for Djerba instead, which looks simpler.
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
I’m planning my next trip outside Europe for next year, but unfortunately, I don’t have a choice with the dates—it’s late June to early July. Last year, I went to Japan for three weeks, and it was constantly 36-37°C with over 90% humidity. It wasn’t easy, but it wasn’t impossible either.
For Egypt, I know it’s a period to avoid if possible, but I’m thinking that by the sea, it might be manageable. Otherwise, I’ll consider another destination.
Day 1: Arrival in Hurghada in the evening Day 2, 3, 4: Hurghada Day 5: Hurghada, then drive to Luxor in the early afternoon Day 6: Luxor Day 7: Luxor, then drive back to Hurghada in the late afternoon Day 8, 9, 10, 11: Hurghada Day 12: Return flight
For the Hurghada trip, either rent a car or—easier—a private car/van. Is it worth adding an extra day in Luxor?
During the stay, we’re planning activities like camel rides, quad biking, jeep tours, snorkeling, and jet skiing.
Thanks for your replies
Hi there,
We’re planning a trip to Morocco in September-October in our Fiat camper van, which isn’t a 4x4 but has already handled quite a bit of rough travel. While reading up on southern Morocco, we’ve been drawn to the Aguinane oasis but I’m having trouble locating it on the map. Is it possible to get there without a 4x4?
Thanks for your help
Bonjour,
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Connaissez vous l'adresse d'une distillerie de fleurs de roses ds la vallée des roses / kelaa M Gouna. Une distillerie traditionnelle, pas uniquement la boutique à touristes.
Merci bp
Nicolas :-)
Hi there,
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to travel from the Dades Gorges (Msemrir) to the Todra Gorges (Tamtatouche) on a paved road? Thanks in advance for any answers.
Hello,
We’d like to hire a French-speaking guide (agency, professional, or volunteer) to show us around Cairo over three days.
Trip planned for November 22, 23, and 24, 2026—four veteran French travelers.
We’re open to any leads, contact info, or suggestions.
Best regards,
Jacques
Hi there,
I have a layover in Algeria.
I won’t be leaving the airport.
The two tickets aren’t with the same airline.
Do I need a transit visa?
Thanks for any details and your help!
Hi there,
I live in Casablanca and my parents, who are 80, will be joining me in Marrakech at the beginning of May for a few days.
We’ll be renting a car to get around.
Do you have any suggestions for things to see or visit within a 2-3 hour drive max from Marrakech that aren’t too touristy?
My parents can walk a bit, but at 80, no climbing Mount Toubkal!
Thanks so much in advance for your ideas!
Hi everyone, just back from the 8-day Marrakech-Merzouga loop by car, and I’d love to share my feedback in case it helps some of you. Big thanks to all the forum members who kindly answered my questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Trip from Friday the 20th to Saturday the 28th, flying out of Marseille with Ryanair
- Landed late around 8 PM local time, exchanged some currency, and the rental agency (Magdaz Car, which I highly recommend) delivered the car straight to the airport with some great route tips (don’t blindly trust Maps.me). The night drive was a bit intense—lots of people out and about due to Ramadan. Stayed at Riad Midhou (really nice) on the outskirts of the city, which made it easy to hit the road the next morning.
- Day 1: Marrakech to Skoura. The drive was smooth, roads are great, but watch out for roundabout priority—it’s different from France. Beautiful route. Quick stop in Ouarzazate for lunch, Ait Benhaddou for the view (stunning), and the Fint Oasis (meh...). Spent the night at Taloute Ecolodge in Skoura, overlooking the palm grove (super cozy).
- Day 2: Skoura to Todgha Gorges via the Valley of Roses and Dades Gorges. Adventure-packed day! We crossed the Valley of Roses (pretty, but not as amazing as I’d hoped) and took a "shortcut" recommended by the *Routard* guide to reach the Dades Gorges without backtracking. After asking locals, they said, "It’s doable." Turns out it was a narrow, rocky cliffside track—no way to turn around! A stressful moment, with a nice scratch on the bumper and a good sweat. Fine in an SUV or 4x4, but not in a Logan... Then the Dades Gorges (nice) and a detour through the north to reach Todgha from above. Gorgeous mountain road and a quick stop on some snow patches—touching African snow! Spent the night at *Les Gorges de Todgha*—great place, except for the bathroom. The Todgha Gorges themselves are stunning!
Day 3: Todgha to Merzouga. Beautiful drive, and the view of the erg (sand dunes) on arrival is breathtaking! Totally worth the trip. Explored the desert and stayed at *Café du Sud* hotel just outside Merzouga—absolutely gorgeous.
Day 4: Merzouga. Desert exploration and chilling by the hotel pool (with a bonus sunburn). Lunch in Merzouga—I recommend *Dakar*—their lemon tajine was amazing. Spent the night in the hotel’s luxury camp, including a camel ride. The camp was beautiful, but I was disappointed we weren’t deeper in the desert given the price (100 € per person, including dinner, breakfast, and camel ride).
Day 5: Merzouga to Tamnougalt. Gorgeous route. First fine (a supposed stop sign...) but the officer was super nice—only 150 MAD. Stayed at *Kasbah Maktob*, right in the middle of ruins—really unique and beautiful!
Day 6: Tamnougalt to Marrakech. Another beautiful drive, and a second fine (minor speeding), same amount. Crossed a windy mountain pass during a big storm—traffic was blocked in the opposite direction (not sure why), causing massive jams for those coming from Marrakech. A few downed cables, but nothing serious. Arriving in Marrakech was tricky—hard to find the rental agency, and the traffic was intense (watch out for GPS trying to send you through the medina). Ask the rental company to meet you somewhere quiet. They didn’t even notice the damaged bumper... Stayed at *Riad Zifamo* in the heart of the medina. Big change of pace—so many people and so much hustle!
Day 7: Marrakech. Lots of wandering through the souk and a quick trip to Gueliz (not essential). A few tips for the medina: watch out for scooters weaving too fast, always negotiate prices (aim for at least 1/3 off what they ask, unless it’s a small amount), don’t buy spices—more expensive than in France! Head to the *Carrefour Market* in Gueliz for better prices. In the end, not many truly unique items—you’ll find more or less the same things everywhere.
Day 8: Early morning flight. We’d booked a car to the airport from the riad, but a taxi would’ve been fine—plenty available even at 7 AM. Security wasn’t an issue (we had lighters and liquids over 100 ml).
A few extra notes: Pleasantly surprised by the road quality—just a few potholes here and there, but overall very drivable. Watch out for the police—they’re everywhere! The car cost me 30 € per day (with the *Routard* discount) and about 90 € in gas. No safety concerns, no harassment, and no stomach issues, despite the ice in Marrakech. Breakfasts at the hotels were usually hearty—take advantage! The timing (end of February) was perfect—pleasant daytime temps and cool nights. Since it was Ramadan, nothing unusual to report, except it was hard to find food outside Marrakech at lunchtime. If I did it again, Merzouga is a must, but I’d spend a night in a real desert bivouac, deeper in the dunes. My stops (no more than 300 km a day) were well-paced, and with so few cars on the road, it wasn’t tiring—even though I’m not usually a fan of driving... Happy to answer any questions!
Hi there,
I’m traveling solo to Egypt. Could you give me a rough idea of the budget for:
meals
hotels
taxis including tips
visits...
Just an estimate, of course.
For 15 days, what would the price range be, considering there’s an overnight train and a Nile cruise?
I’d like to compare with a travel agency. Is it more worthwhile to go through an agency despite the downsides of group travel?
Otherwise, if a travel buddy is interested in this country, why not?
Thanks a lot!
Merci aux membres de voyageforum qui nous ont fait part de leurs expériences! Nous avons passé 3 jours formidables à "La Kasbah la Palmeraie" à Skoura. Arrivant de Marrakech (superbe route en décrochant après le col de Tichka via Telouet, Ait-Benhaddou), le séjour à la Palmeraie n'a été que du bonheur: accueil chaleureux de Mohammed et Ghizlane, délicieux petits déjeuners sur la terrasse dominant la palmeraie, (pain cuit au four en terre, crêpes au miel préparées par Ghizlane), repas du soir non moins délicieux et copieux, en famille, autour d'un bon feu. Nous nous sentions comme "chez soi" et avons beaucoup appris sur le mode de vie de la région. Les balades proposées étaient toujours intéressantes et hors des circuits touristiques de masse. De là, le vallée et les Gorges du Dades , la vallée des Amandiers (superbe!), la palmeraie. Il y a des Kasbahs magnifiques dans la région dont celle de nos hôtes. Une autre façon de "visiter" le Maroc!




