Salut à tous
On va passer 2 mois Dans l'ouest cet été et on aura notre PC portable avec nous
Est il possible de le laisser dans une glacière la journée ?
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Merci Philippe et Audrey
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Voyager avec son PC aux Etats-Unis cet été?
by Philoquébec
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
pourquoi un glacière?
parce qu'on compte prendre une glacière pour l'eau, la nourriture, ect... alors la question est de savoir OU mettre notre PC ???
Me demande où vous allez mettre vos passeports?😛
😛😛😛
La glaciere c, est pour que le PC aie tjs des nouvelles fraiches.....🤪
On n'a pas fini d, en lire.......😎😎
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La glaciere c, est pour que le PC aie tjs des nouvelles fraiches.....🤪
On n'a pas fini d, en lire.......😎😎
On met longtemps à devenir jeune...
merci pour ces notes d'humour mais çà m'aide pas beaucoup tout ca...
il me semblait qu'un PC enfermé dans une voiture toute la journée en plein désert ça pouvait poser problème pour la batterie...
il me semblait qu'un PC enfermé dans une voiture toute la journée en plein désert ça pouvait poser problème pour la batterie...
C'est surement un fake mais je me lance... Ben je dirais que tant que tu ne le mets pas sur la plage arrière pour qu'il bronze, y'a pas de problème. Dans les régions chaudes les gens ont aussi des ordinateurs (dans l'ouest des USA comme d'ailleurs).
La glacière ça me semble être une très mauvaise idée. Y'a pas grand chose de pire que l'humidité pour l'électronique.
enfin une vraie réponse merci
je comptais pas mettre mon PC au milieu des glaçons!!!!!!!!!!!
je comptais pas mettre mon PC au milieu des glaçons!!!!!!!!!!!
Nous allons donc avoir droit à un autre romanforum: Comment vaincre l'Ouest avec son PC....*
* Question existentielle s'il en est......😛
Apres ......''faut-il cadenasser les Samsonite'' et aussi........''louer avec ou sans plein d, essence that is ze question'' nous voila replonger dans les mystères de l'Ouest.....😄
* Question existentielle s'il en est......😛
Apres ......''faut-il cadenasser les Samsonite'' et aussi........''louer avec ou sans plein d, essence that is ze question'' nous voila replonger dans les mystères de l'Ouest.....😄
On met longtemps à devenir jeune...
il me semblait qu'un PC enfermé dans une voiture toute la journée en plein désert ça pouvait poser problème pour la batterie...
Ok, vous avez pensé à votre pauvre laptop qui va avoir chaud tout enfermé dans la voiture, mais avez-vous pensé à la voiture-même??? Où est-ce que vous allez la mettre? Elle va carrément griller sous le soleil de plomb de l'Ouest!!!
😮 🏴☠️ 🤪
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Ok, vous avez pensé à votre pauvre laptop qui va avoir chaud tout enfermé dans la voiture, mais avez-vous pensé à la voiture-même??? Où est-ce que vous allez la mettre? Elle va carrément griller sous le soleil de plomb de l'Ouest!!!
😮 🏴☠️ 🤪
😇
Bonjour Philippe,
Est il possible de le laisser dans une ... la journée ?
J'ai supprimé "glacière", totalement inutile.
En 2009, un mois sur route et piste (voir site web) ; nous dormions très souvent dans la voiture. Notre pc ne l'a jamais quittée (la voiture 😉) et n'a souffert de rien. Pendant les randos, il se prélassait entre les deux matelas repliés, douillettement au chaud. Ah oui, j'oubliais, il était éteint 😉😎😎😎.
Dans la glacière, c'était plutôt les bières 😏😏😏.
Est il possible de le laisser dans une ... la journée ?
J'ai supprimé "glacière", totalement inutile.
En 2009, un mois sur route et piste (voir site web) ; nous dormions très souvent dans la voiture. Notre pc ne l'a jamais quittée (la voiture 😉) et n'a souffert de rien. Pendant les randos, il se prélassait entre les deux matelas repliés, douillettement au chaud. Ah oui, j'oubliais, il était éteint 😉😎😎😎.
Dans la glacière, c'était plutôt les bières 😏😏😏.
Bonjour Philippe,
Cela fait 8 fois que j'emmene mon PC dans l'ouest. il reste toute la journée dans la voiture, souvent "caché" sous les sieges.
pas de problemes particuliers, sauf une fois ou il a refusé de demarrer avec un message du genre: 'temperature trop elevée'.
apres quelques minutes avec la clim enclenchée, il est reparti sans probleme
Bonne preparation
Jean-Pierre
Cela fait 8 fois que j'emmene mon PC dans l'ouest. il reste toute la journée dans la voiture, souvent "caché" sous les sieges.
pas de problemes particuliers, sauf une fois ou il a refusé de demarrer avec un message du genre: 'temperature trop elevée'.
apres quelques minutes avec la clim enclenchée, il est reparti sans probleme
Bonne preparation
Jean-Pierre
Les composants électroniques, en gamme commerciale, sont prévus pour fonctionner de de 0°C à 85°C sans soucis et en stockage de de -50°C à +150°C donc ordinateur éteint dans la voiture, t'as de la marge !
Par contre, comme dit précédemment, l'humidité est le pire ennemi de l'électronique donc dans la glacière, même si tu ne le mets pas au milieu des glaçons (évidemment !), tu auras une humidité proche des 70%... Mauvaise idée et inutile en plus.
Bon voyage !
Par contre, comme dit précédemment, l'humidité est le pire ennemi de l'électronique donc dans la glacière, même si tu ne le mets pas au milieu des glaçons (évidemment !), tu auras une humidité proche des 70%... Mauvaise idée et inutile en plus.
Bon voyage !
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Ce que tu peux acheter c'est un sac isotherme souple et pas cher. Ca permet d'isoler un peu et de protéger du soleil.
Le mieux est dans le coffre à l'abri du soleil de toutes façons.
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" Psychologiquement instable donc je ne réponds de rien" : Sa Maman
Salut Philoquébec,
Perso, j'ai toujours laissé le Portable dans la voiture sous le siège lors des randos.. Aucun problème! Maintenant, tu peux aider ton portable à tenir le coup contre la chaleur... Tu lui mets en fond d'écran, une image de congélateur😛 ça lui fera descendre sa température. Ou clé USB "glaçon" branché😏 sur port USB. @+ le spartiate
Perso, j'ai toujours laissé le Portable dans la voiture sous le siège lors des randos.. Aucun problème! Maintenant, tu peux aider ton portable à tenir le coup contre la chaleur... Tu lui mets en fond d'écran, une image de congélateur😛 ça lui fera descendre sa température. Ou clé USB "glaçon" branché😏 sur port USB. @+ le spartiate
Tout ce qui ne vous tue pas , vous rend plus fort !!
Super le coup du congel en fond d'écran j'y avais pas passé...
Sérieusement, tu laisses ton ordi dans sa house et tu le mets dans le coffre de la voiture avec le reste des bagages
ça risque rien je fais toujours ainsi et jen'ai jamais eu de problème..😉
Je ne le laisserais pas ailleurs que dans le coffre, il est à l'ombre. Si en plus tu le mets dans ta valise au milieu des vêtements , il sera un peu isolé.
Mais pas dans la voiture, avec les fenêtres il fera trop chaud même si il y a qui le font. C'est un risque.
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
je crois que ma 1ere question était très mal posée ou plutôt confuse !!!
@tous merci de vos conseils aussi bien pour l'isolation de mon PC, que pour la santé de notre prochain 4x4 de location, pour les bières "dans" la glacière et du fond d'écran de congélateur !!!!
vous êtes au top !!!
@tous merci de vos conseils aussi bien pour l'isolation de mon PC, que pour la santé de notre prochain 4x4 de location, pour les bières "dans" la glacière et du fond d'écran de congélateur !!!!
vous êtes au top !!!
je comptais pas mettre mon PC au milieu des glaçons!!!!!!!!!!!
Euh...j'espère bien! Je parlais d'humidité dans l'air de la glacière. Concrètement, nous on met l'ordi dans sac à dos dans la voiture en dessous du siège et on a jamais eu de soucis où qu'on soit aller. Les batteries Lithium peuvent se dégrader au-delà de 80°C. Mais franchement si tu te retrouve dans un endroit où il fait plus de 80°C, il me semble que ton ordi sera le moindre de tes soucis. 🙂
Euh...j'espère bien! Je parlais d'humidité dans l'air de la glacière. Concrètement, nous on met l'ordi dans sac à dos dans la voiture en dessous du siège et on a jamais eu de soucis où qu'on soit aller. Les batteries Lithium peuvent se dégrader au-delà de 80°C. Mais franchement si tu te retrouve dans un endroit où il fait plus de 80°C, il me semble que ton ordi sera le moindre de tes soucis. 🙂
Concrètement, nous on met l'ordi dans sac à dos dans la voiture en dessous du siège et on a jamais eu de soucis où qu'on soit aller. Les batteries Lithium peuvent se dégrader au-delà de 80°C. 🙂
Je ne veux pas te contredire Madouna21 mais je ne partage pas ton avis.
La recommandation pour les ordi Mac est la suivante et je ne crois pas que ce soit différents pour les autres marques;Operating temperature: 50° to 95° F (10° to 35° C)Storage temperature: -13° to 113° F (-24° to 45° C) Dans une voiture , au soleil il fait beaucoup plus chaud qu'à l'extérieur de la voiture. Le coffre c'est à l'ombre. Beaucoup moins pire. Facile de dépasser 45 C en été au soleil dans la voiture avec les fenêtre fermées. Un ordinateur c'est beaucoup plus que des batteries .......
Je ne veux pas te contredire Madouna21 mais je ne partage pas ton avis.
La recommandation pour les ordi Mac est la suivante et je ne crois pas que ce soit différents pour les autres marques;Operating temperature: 50° to 95° F (10° to 35° C)Storage temperature: -13° to 113° F (-24° to 45° C) Dans une voiture , au soleil il fait beaucoup plus chaud qu'à l'extérieur de la voiture. Le coffre c'est à l'ombre. Beaucoup moins pire. Facile de dépasser 45 C en été au soleil dans la voiture avec les fenêtre fermées. Un ordinateur c'est beaucoup plus que des batteries .......
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
Oui mais il demandait pour sa batterie. Le mien (HP) c'est entre 0 et 40 en fonctionnement et -20 et 65 en stockage. Sachant que la marque vous renseigne (pour se couvrir) une zone qui ne pose aucun problème avec une marge de sécurité (comme pour les date de consommation des yaourts 😉 ), je ne crois pas que ça pose problème de le laisser à l'abri du soleil dans sa voiture. Après il peut le mettre dans le coffre pour plus de sécurité. Enfait pour moi, il peut même le mettre dans sa glacière que ça ne me ferait ni chaud, ni froid 😉
La batterie !!! Moi je lis le PC;
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Voyager avec son PC aux Etats-Unis cet été?
29 février 2012 à 19:07
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Salut à tous
On va passer 2 mois Dans l'ouest cet été et on aura notre PC portable avec nous
Est il possible de le laisser dans une glacière la journée ?
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Voyager avec son PC aux Etats-Unis cet été?
29 février 2012 à 19:07
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Salut à tousOn va passer 2 mois Dans l'ouest cet été et on aura notre PC portable avec nous
Est il possible de le laisser dans une glacière la journée ?
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
Je parlais de ça
merci pour ces notes d'humour mais çà m'aide pas beaucoup tout ca...
il me semblait qu'un PC enfermé dans une voiture toute la journée en plein désert ça pouvait poser problème pour la batterie...
Et il n'a pas tord parce que je vois mal le cuivre ou le plastique fondre dans une voiture.
merci pour ces notes d'humour mais çà m'aide pas beaucoup tout ca...
il me semblait qu'un PC enfermé dans une voiture toute la journée en plein désert ça pouvait poser problème pour la batterie...
Et il n'a pas tord parce que je vois mal le cuivre ou le plastique fondre dans une voiture.
La batterie n'est qu'un dispositif parmis tant d'autre et pas le plus fragile. Le boitier en plastique n'est pas en cause c'est évident. Que penses-tu de l'avertissement d'Apple ? Ça concerne tout les composants dans l'ordinateur pas juste la batterie.
Vous ferez comme vous voulez mais moi qui travaille en électronique je sais bien ce que je ne ferais pas.
Vous ferez comme vous voulez mais moi qui travaille en électronique je sais bien ce que je ne ferais pas.
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
Ben je ne pense rien de l'avertissement d'apple. D'ailleurs je ne suis pas concernée puisque je n'ai pas de mac. Comme je te l'ai dit pour mon ordi ils mettent entre -20 et 65°C. Et comme il n'a jamais fait plus de 65°C dans un endroit où j'entreposais mon ordi ben je ne vois pas le problème à continuer à faire ce que j'ai toujours fait.
C'est bien beau toutes vos histoires mais vous faites comment quand la voiture elle a fondu dans Death Valley? HEIN? Et que les chinois, bah ils font signe à un pote à eux qui a une grue? Faites moins les malins là 😉
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ahhhh enfin !!!!!
merci à toi "stratele52" qui comprend ma question !!!!
effectivement je pense qu'en été, en plein soleil, et dans le désert US (du style Death Valley, Capitol Reef, Arches, ...) la T° intérieure de la voiture peux facilement dépasser les 50°C, si c'est pas plus !!
D'où ma question !!!!
encore une fois merci !!!!
merci à toi "stratele52" qui comprend ma question !!!!
effectivement je pense qu'en été, en plein soleil, et dans le désert US (du style Death Valley, Capitol Reef, Arches, ...) la T° intérieure de la voiture peux facilement dépasser les 50°C, si c'est pas plus !!
D'où ma question !!!!
encore une fois merci !!!!
Bonjour, 🙂
Au fond du coffre au milieu d'une valise et à l'abri du soleil. L'important, c'est d'éviter de le démarrer en cas de température élevée. Mais en revenant de ballade, le pc ou mac n'est pas non plus la priorité. 😛 Pour ma part, j'ai résolu le problème: je n'y vais pas en été. 😉 😏
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Au fond du coffre au milieu d'une valise et à l'abri du soleil. L'important, c'est d'éviter de le démarrer en cas de température élevée. Mais en revenant de ballade, le pc ou mac n'est pas non plus la priorité. 😛 Pour ma part, j'ai résolu le problème: je n'y vais pas en été. 😉 😏
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Les concours photos VF
Y a pas de quoi, ta question était simple mais tout a fait justifiée. Moi aussi je transporte mon ordinateur en voyage.
Tu connais Skype pour parler , avec video, gratuitement d'ordinateur à ordinateur et a un coût ridicule si tu appelles un téléphone ?
Bon voyage
Bon voyage
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
salut
c'est sur qu'après 15 kms de randos je vais pas regarder mes mails !!!! le coffre semble être la meilleure des solutions
c'est sur qu'après 15 kms de randos je vais pas regarder mes mails !!!! le coffre semble être la meilleure des solutions
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Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip through the American national parks starting from Denver in June 2026.
The price of the pass is jumping from 80 € to 250 € on January 1st, 2026!!!
Is it possible to buy the pass online before the end of the year to lock in the 80 € rate? If so, where and how do I go about it?
Thanks for your tips.
Arnale
Hi there,
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
I’m planning a road trip for July 2026 in northern Florida. Could you let me know if my itinerary makes sense? Day 1: Orlando Day 2: Amelia Island Day 3: Amelia Island Day 4: Tallahassee Day 5: Panama City Beach Day 6: Panama City Beach (visit to Destin) Day 7: Crystal River (stop in Cedar Key on the way) Day 8: Crystal River Day 9: Anna Maria (stop in Clearwater) Day 10: Anna Maria (St. Pete) Day 11: Anna Maria Day 12: Orlando Day 13: Orlando Day 14: Orlando Day 15: Departure
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hey everyone!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
We just finished 9 days in the American West and wanted to share our experience because we had an amazing time.
I know some of you might ask, why use an agency? Honestly, we didn’t really feel like doing all the driving and planning, especially since we didn’t know the area at all. And since our English isn’t great, having French-speaking guides was a big comfort.
We found Emmanuelle and Isabelle, and wow, they were fantastic. It was just the two of us with them, so it was a truly VIP, ultra-personalized experience. They treated us like royalty from start to finish. These two live in Las Vegas and know the region like the back of their hand. They told us they’ve spent over 15 years exploring every corner of the American West, and it really shows. Their knowledge of geology, park history, and local anecdotes is just impressive. It’s nothing like someone reciting a memorized script. They answer all your questions and really adapt to what you want to see or do.
What we really loved: the vehicle was super comfortable, and the little details made a difference—like snacks and even a homemade cake! Though, to be fair, we devoured the cake right away, so that counts.
Since they know the sites inside out, they took us at the right times to avoid crowds. So we could enjoy peaceful picnics at Grand Canyon viewpoints without being packed in with 200 people. Plus, on top of the must-see spots, they showed us some hidden gems that were absolutely stunning—places we never would’ve found on our own. They’re true locals who know all the best tips.
The service was really personalized. They adapted to our pace and preferences, and we could stop whenever we wanted to take photos. It’s the luxury of being in a small private group—you’re not just a number on a big bus. In short, we really felt like we were traveling with friends rather than professional guides. Everything’s included in the price (hotel pickup, meals, park entries, etc.), so the value for money is fair.
We loved it so much that we’re already planning to come back next year to explore other areas with them. I think we’ve caught the American West bug—it’s all we can think about, and we can’t wait to return.
If you’re looking for a French-speaking tour with real personalized service and guides who know the region like no one else, we highly recommend them. We had unforgettable moments. They also design road trips for those who don’t want a guide. And they handled our hotel reservations in Las Vegas too. If you want genuine advice from friendly locals, we’re giving them a 200% recommendation!
Hello,
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan
I’m currently looking for well-located hotels near points of interest in the cities below. I’ve found a few, but the prices are really high. Could any of you share some great addresses in the following cities? - Los Angeles - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Also, do you have a preferred airline for domestic flights? If so, which one?
Thanks so much, and have a great day, everyone!
Gertjan