Zion: question balade et logement
by Bullus
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
J'en suis à préparer mon étape à Zion, et j'ai 2 petites questions à ceux et celles qui sont déjà passés par là !
- Je vais loger au Zion lodge. Mais vaut-il mieux réserver une chambre dans l'hotel ou une cabin ?
- Concernant les ballades, on a prévu les "Emerald pools" et "Riverside walk". Mais on voudrait encore rajouter une ou deux mini-ballades, et c'est là que j'ai un souci : pouvez-vous m'aiguiller entre Archeology trail, The grotto trail ou Weeping rock trail ? Ils font tous 30 minutes. Est-ce que vous les connaissez et pouvez me les décrire ? Merci beaucoup !
Salut Laurence
ouestusa.fr ou http://west-usa-dream.blogspot.fr/ pour les balades
Tu ne vises pas un peu plus "grand" pour te balader à Zion? Celles que tu vises ne sont pas les plus spectaculaires, Riverside Walk a pour moi un intérêt très limité. Quant aux autres, Weeping Rock, Emerald Pool, en été c'est très décevant puisque c'est presque à sec...
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ouestusa.fr ou http://west-usa-dream.blogspot.fr/ pour les balades
Tu ne vises pas un peu plus "grand" pour te balader à Zion? Celles que tu vises ne sont pas les plus spectaculaires, Riverside Walk a pour moi un intérêt très limité. Quant aux autres, Weeping Rock, Emerald Pool, en été c'est très décevant puisque c'est presque à sec...
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Salut Thibaud,
Ben en fait, j'ai exclu d'office les ballades notées "difficiles" car je suis avec un enfant de 8ans et j'ai le vertige ! ;0)
Pour ce qui est de Riverside walk, à ce que j'ai compris, on peut le prolonger par le début des narrows et faire demi-tour quand ça devient compliqué, non ?
Est-ce que Watchman trail, classé en "moderate", vaut plus la peine que le "Emerald pools" ?
Ben en fait, j'ai exclu d'office les ballades notées "difficiles" car je suis avec un enfant de 8ans et j'ai le vertige ! ;0)
Pour ce qui est de Riverside walk, à ce que j'ai compris, on peut le prolonger par le début des narrows et faire demi-tour quand ça devient compliqué, non ?
Est-ce que Watchman trail, classé en "moderate", vaut plus la peine que le "Emerald pools" ?
Watchman Trail te permet d'accéder à un beau point de vue, ça monte un peu, mais ce qui peut rendre difficile la balade c'est la chaleur! Donc à faire en début de matinée.
Tu peux en effet faire un bout des Narrows si tu aimes marcher dans l'eau.
Tu peux en effet faire un bout des Narrows si tu aimes marcher dans l'eau.
Même avis que ITAT
J'avais exclu Angel's landing à cause du vertige de mon mari. Nous avons fait les narrows : Fun assuré, surtout avec un enfant !!!🙂🙂🙂
Il faut partir tôt le matin en s"assurant au préalable que le temps n'est pas à l'orage. 😐
Si vous ne voulez pas mouiller vos chaussures de rando ou bien emporter d'autres paires spécialement pour la balade dans l'eau, pour ne pas vous encombrer, vous pouvez louer l'équipement à Zion adventure. Je vous conseille de louer les bâtons à "Zion adventure". Ils sont indispensables ! Il ne faut pas penser que vous en trouverez systématiquement au départ. Nous sommes arrivés très tôt et il n'y en avait pas. 🙁
Si vous voulez avoir une idée de ce que cela donne, cliquez ici
J'avais exclu Angel's landing à cause du vertige de mon mari. Nous avons fait les narrows : Fun assuré, surtout avec un enfant !!!🙂🙂🙂
Il faut partir tôt le matin en s"assurant au préalable que le temps n'est pas à l'orage. 😐
Si vous ne voulez pas mouiller vos chaussures de rando ou bien emporter d'autres paires spécialement pour la balade dans l'eau, pour ne pas vous encombrer, vous pouvez louer l'équipement à Zion adventure. Je vous conseille de louer les bâtons à "Zion adventure". Ils sont indispensables ! Il ne faut pas penser que vous en trouverez systématiquement au départ. Nous sommes arrivés très tôt et il n'y en avait pas. 🙁
Si vous voulez avoir une idée de ce que cela donne, cliquez ici
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Bonjour,
Même avis que les intervenants précédents : les petites promenades à Zion risquent d'étre décevantes, surtout avec la navette qui rajoute du temps de trajet. N'hésite pas â faire les narrows avec pique-nique en cours de route. C.est très fun mais en effet il vaut mieux louer un bâton - voire des chaussures ad hoc- qui est parfois vraiment nécessaire pour garder de la stabilité.
Même avis que les intervenants précédents : les petites promenades à Zion risquent d'étre décevantes, surtout avec la navette qui rajoute du temps de trajet. N'hésite pas â faire les narrows avec pique-nique en cours de route. C.est très fun mais en effet il vaut mieux louer un bâton - voire des chaussures ad hoc- qui est parfois vraiment nécessaire pour garder de la stabilité.
Bluequark
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Super reportage photo sur les narrows, merci ! Apparemment, une bonne partie se fait à l'ombre ? On peut donc la faire en milieu de journée, sans craindre de cuire ?
Autre petite question : est-ce que cette balade est envisageable avec un enfant de 8 ans ? J'ai crû comprendre qu'il y avait pas mal de courant...
Autre petite question : est-ce que cette balade est envisageable avec un enfant de 8 ans ? J'ai crû comprendre qu'il y avait pas mal de courant...
Merci ! Je vois que tout le monde semble conquis par les narrows ... Ca y est, je suis partante aussi ! 🙂 Au moins pour une partie du trajet, on verra jusqu'où on décide d'aller.
En fait, on arrive vers 16h à Zion, on loge au zion lodge (d'où ma question : en chambre d'hotel ou en cabine ? est-ce que quelqu'un a testé ? ), et on quitte le lendemain fin d'après-midi. Bref, on a du temps pour faire un peu plus que les narrows... mais quoi ?? De tout ce que je lis, je me dis que je vais abandonner l'idée des "emerald pools", car en août les "piscines" ressembleront plutôt à des déserts à ce que j'ai compris et du coup la ballade perd de son charme. Oui, mais je fais quoi alors ? J'aimerai une deuxième ballade d'environ 2h, et une petite de 3/4h-1h, toujours avec un enfant de 8 ans. Merci pour vos idées et témoignages, c'est fort précieux !
En fait, on arrive vers 16h à Zion, on loge au zion lodge (d'où ma question : en chambre d'hotel ou en cabine ? est-ce que quelqu'un a testé ? ), et on quitte le lendemain fin d'après-midi. Bref, on a du temps pour faire un peu plus que les narrows... mais quoi ?? De tout ce que je lis, je me dis que je vais abandonner l'idée des "emerald pools", car en août les "piscines" ressembleront plutôt à des déserts à ce que j'ai compris et du coup la ballade perd de son charme. Oui, mais je fais quoi alors ? J'aimerai une deuxième ballade d'environ 2h, et une petite de 3/4h-1h, toujours avec un enfant de 8 ans. Merci pour vos idées et témoignages, c'est fort précieux !
Canyon Overlook est sympa pour la vue, mais trop tard car sinon c'est à contre-jour.
Si on élimine les grosses randos comme Observation Point ou Angel's Landing je ne vois pas trop d'autres immanquables en été
Si on élimine les grosses randos comme Observation Point ou Angel's Landing je ne vois pas trop d'autres immanquables en été
Autre petite question : est-ce que cette balade est envisageable avec un enfant de 8 ans ? J'ai crû comprendre qu'il y avait pas mal de courant...
Cela dépend des fois. Quand nous y sommes allés, c'était tout à fait faisable avec un huit ans. Ne pas se laisser impressionner par le premier virage où l'eau monte haut (mais sans cailloux au fond donc bien stable) après l'eau est beaucoup plus basse. Il faut se renseigner au visitor center (ne serait ce que pour savoir s'il y a des risques de lash floods, auquel cas il faut s'abstenir).
Cela dépend des fois. Quand nous y sommes allés, c'était tout à fait faisable avec un huit ans. Ne pas se laisser impressionner par le premier virage où l'eau monte haut (mais sans cailloux au fond donc bien stable) après l'eau est beaucoup plus basse. Il faut se renseigner au visitor center (ne serait ce que pour savoir s'il y a des risques de lash floods, auquel cas il faut s'abstenir).
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" est-ce que cette balade est envisageable avec un enfant de 8 ans ? J'ai crû comprendre qu'il y avait pas mal de courant... "
Tout dépend du niveau d'eau de la Virgin River , très variable même en été à cause des orages voir http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2346198#2346198
Tout dépend du niveau d'eau de la Virgin River , très variable même en été à cause des orages voir http://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2346198#2346198
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
Il y avait du courant quand nous l'avons faite c'est pourquoi les batons sont indispensable.
Il me semble que le courant doit aussi dépendre de la saison, de la météo...
Nous avons vu des familles avec des enfants.
Il y avait aussi pas mal de locaux qui venaient dans les narrows en famille en début d'après-midi pour que les enfants jouent à plonger des rochers.
Après, à vous de voir jusqu'où aller étant entendu que vous devez ensuite revenir. Un conseil : prenez votre pique nique pour ne pas être bousculé. il sera toujours temps de voir si vous le prenez sur place ou pas.😉
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Bonjour
j'ai eu le bonheur de passer quelques jours à Zion en mai 2012, et de nouveau en mai 2013 et effectivement, les randos les plus longues valent le coup !!!
se cantonner aux marches courtes c'est comme se retrouver dans le métro de Londres ... du monde partout !!! perso ça m'énerve et c'est pourquoi j'ai déjà fait 3 fois "Observation point" ... la dernière fois j'i débuté l'ascension à 16h et je n'ai même pas croisé 5 personnes entre la montée et la descente ... et bizarrement à chaque fois que j'arrive en haut je vois des choses étranges ... genre une américaine enceinte jusqu'au coup, seule, sans chapeau et juste une petite bouteille d'eau ... qui entamait la descente ?!!!! soit c'était une inconsciente soit elle s'était garée près du sommet !!!!
cette année, à mon arrivée au sommet, observation point ... j'ai croisé 1 père avec sa fille en bas âge puis une mère avec 3 enfants en bas âge (moins de 8 ns j'imagine) ... franchement je doute qu'ils aient fait la montée à pieds ????
ensuite si vous restez au lodge, n'hésitez pas à ... longer la rivière, notamment grace à un chemin qui parfois est consacré aux chevaux ... c'est très agréable et comble du luxe ! personne ne pense faire ça et tout le monde s'entête avec les randos ...
l'idéal pour les adultes reste les longues randonnées pour éviter le monde ;o( mais je suis persuadé que même avec des enfants, on trouve tjs des endroits tranquilles et sympas ... suffit d'être curieux ...
j'ai eu le bonheur de passer quelques jours à Zion en mai 2012, et de nouveau en mai 2013 et effectivement, les randos les plus longues valent le coup !!!
se cantonner aux marches courtes c'est comme se retrouver dans le métro de Londres ... du monde partout !!! perso ça m'énerve et c'est pourquoi j'ai déjà fait 3 fois "Observation point" ... la dernière fois j'i débuté l'ascension à 16h et je n'ai même pas croisé 5 personnes entre la montée et la descente ... et bizarrement à chaque fois que j'arrive en haut je vois des choses étranges ... genre une américaine enceinte jusqu'au coup, seule, sans chapeau et juste une petite bouteille d'eau ... qui entamait la descente ?!!!! soit c'était une inconsciente soit elle s'était garée près du sommet !!!!
cette année, à mon arrivée au sommet, observation point ... j'ai croisé 1 père avec sa fille en bas âge puis une mère avec 3 enfants en bas âge (moins de 8 ns j'imagine) ... franchement je doute qu'ils aient fait la montée à pieds ????
ensuite si vous restez au lodge, n'hésitez pas à ... longer la rivière, notamment grace à un chemin qui parfois est consacré aux chevaux ... c'est très agréable et comble du luxe ! personne ne pense faire ça et tout le monde s'entête avec les randos ...
l'idéal pour les adultes reste les longues randonnées pour éviter le monde ;o( mais je suis persuadé que même avec des enfants, on trouve tjs des endroits tranquilles et sympas ... suffit d'être curieux ...
tof
" une américaine enceinte jusqu'au coup, seule, sans chapeau et juste une petite bouteille d'eau ... qui entamait la descente ?!!!! soit c'était une inconsciente soit elle s'était garée près du sommet !!!! "
" 1 père avec sa fille en bas âge puis une mère avec 3 enfants en bas âge (moins de 8 ns j'imagine) ... franchement je doute qu'ils aient fait la montée à pieds ???? "
Y a moyen d'accéder à Observation Point autrement qu'en se tapant la longue et fatigante grimpette depuis Weeping Rock 😛 : il faut accéder en voiture à l'Est du Parc, via North Fork Rd, jusqu'au Ponderosa Ranch + piste Carte montrant le trajet en voiture jusqu’au début du trail : http://www.citrusmilo.com/zionguide/eastmesatrailmap.cfm
Et puis du parking, on suit à pied East Mesa Trail : rando assez facile car assez plate (3H A-R) Carte montrant le trajet du trail :http://www.citrusmilo.com/zionguide/eastmesatrailmap2.cfm
" 1 père avec sa fille en bas âge puis une mère avec 3 enfants en bas âge (moins de 8 ns j'imagine) ... franchement je doute qu'ils aient fait la montée à pieds ???? "
Y a moyen d'accéder à Observation Point autrement qu'en se tapant la longue et fatigante grimpette depuis Weeping Rock 😛 : il faut accéder en voiture à l'Est du Parc, via North Fork Rd, jusqu'au Ponderosa Ranch + piste Carte montrant le trajet en voiture jusqu’au début du trail : http://www.citrusmilo.com/zionguide/eastmesatrailmap.cfm
Et puis du parking, on suit à pied East Mesa Trail : rando assez facile car assez plate (3H A-R) Carte montrant le trajet du trail :http://www.citrusmilo.com/zionguide/eastmesatrailmap2.cfm
Ouest USA 2009 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=2800143#2800143
5ème trip USA, 09/2013 https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6186946#6186946
hello,
à ma dernière montée (sur 2) à Observation Point, on a vu arriver un p'tit bonhomme de 6 ans (qui avait fait la montée, on lui a demandé car évidemment certains en doutaient aussi) ! un enfant habitué à marcher et heureux d'être là 🙂, comme quoi !
@+ Vnoa
à ma dernière montée (sur 2) à Observation Point, on a vu arriver un p'tit bonhomme de 6 ans (qui avait fait la montée, on lui a demandé car évidemment certains en doutaient aussi) ! un enfant habitué à marcher et heureux d'être là 🙂, comme quoi !
@+ Vnoa
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je m'en doutais un peu et heureusement peu de gens la connaissent car en haut ça reste quand même calme et c'est tant mieux
par contre, moi la longue marche pour monter ... bah je l'adore, elle me donne la pêche et j'ai hâte de la refaire ... le petit bonhomme de 6 ans, il a quand même eu du courage je dis
par contre, moi la longue marche pour monter ... bah je l'adore, elle me donne la pêche et j'ai hâte de la refaire ... le petit bonhomme de 6 ans, il a quand même eu du courage je dis
tof
Bonjour,
nous partons aussi dans cette région cet été avec 2 ados de 13 et 14 ans. En plus de "the narrows", nous envisageons de tester une descente de la Virgin River en "tubing" (assis dans une grosse bouée). Le départ est à Springdale et est organisé par Zion Adventure Company (voir site internet). J'espère qu'il y aura assez d'eau en aout pour ne pas s'écorcher les fesses à chaque caillou! Si quelqu'un a essayé cette activité, merci de donner votre avis!
nous partons aussi dans cette région cet été avec 2 ados de 13 et 14 ans. En plus de "the narrows", nous envisageons de tester une descente de la Virgin River en "tubing" (assis dans une grosse bouée). Le départ est à Springdale et est organisé par Zion Adventure Company (voir site internet). J'espère qu'il y aura assez d'eau en aout pour ne pas s'écorcher les fesses à chaque caillou! Si quelqu'un a essayé cette activité, merci de donner votre avis!
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Hi there,
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary. Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between: - The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc. - The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road. Thanks for your input!
Laura
We're leaving at the end of June and will be driving the route between Buffalo and Cody. We’ve already booked our accommodations and a rodeo in Cody, but during the day, we’ll be driving between the two and I’m unsure about the itinerary. Which route do you think is the most pleasant, interesting, or scenic between: - The northern route via Highway 14 with Sheridan, Lowell, etc. - The southern route with Highways 16/20/14, passing by Loaf Mountain Overlook, Powder River Pass, Ten Sleep Canyon...
We’ll be in a car, so we should be able to drive on any road. Thanks for your input!
Laura
Hi everyone! 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
I’m almost done planning our September road trip. After our 3-night visit to Sequoia, we’ll have a stopover night in Coalinga (to break up the drive). We’ll be staying two nights in Monterey and would like to stop along the way to visit one side of Pinnacles National Park. We’re torn between the West entrance and the East entrance, and we’d like to do a short hike of no more than 2 hours since we don’t want to arrive too late in Monterey.
This park is split into two distinct zones with no connection between them, and the mileage from Coalinga to Monterey is pretty much the same for both. Which area do you recommend visiting—east or west? And which route is the most scenic?
I’ve spotted two short hikes: - East: Moses Spring to Rim Trail Loop - West: Balconies Cliffs Cave Loop
Has anyone been there, or do you have another hike to suggest?
Thanks in advance, and have a great afternoon! Marcalamar 🙂
Hi there,
We’re heading to Las Vegas this summer and would love to rent a classic convertible Cadillac or something similar. Any recommendations? Thanks.
We’re heading to Las Vegas this summer and would love to rent a classic convertible Cadillac or something similar. Any recommendations? Thanks.
Hi everyone! 🙂
Just a quick question about King Canyon and Sequoia National Park.
Before our night in Miramonte, we plan to visit King Canyon. The next stop will be two nights in Three Rivers to explore Sequoia National Park. I wanted to go all the way to Roaring River Falls on the King Canyon Scenic Byway and then turn back to head to Miramonte. Since we’re coming from Oakhurst, Google Maps says it’s 300 km and 5 hours of driving. Since we also want to hike to see the sequoias (Big Stump Area and Grand Grove) before tackling the King Canyon Scenic Byway, the timing’s going to be tight. How far do you recommend going before turning back to miss as few points of interest as possible on the King Canyon Scenic Byway? Thanks for your advice, and have a great evening!
Marcalamar 🙂
Hi everyone!
After years of hoping, waiting, planning, then changing, saving, and searching for the best possible route... we're FINALLY off this summer for a 5-week road trip in the West.
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
I had planned a trip to Colorado in 2021 but canceled due to COVID, so with time passing and my eldest’s high school graduation approaching fast, I figured it was now or never!
Anyway, the itinerary has been modified and extended to please everyone (I’m no longer the only one making decisions!!)
Here’s our final route: Day 1 - 7/12/2026 - Brussels / Los Angeles Day 2 - 7/13/2026 - Los Angeles Day 3 - 7/14/2026 - Los Angeles Day 4 - 7/15/2026 - Los Angeles Day 5 - 7/16/2026 - Los Angeles Day 6 - 7/17/2026 - Los Angeles / Kingman Day 7 - 7/18/2026 - Kingman / Grand Canyon Day 8 - 7/19/2026 - Grand Canyon / Page Day 9 - 7/20/2026 - Page Day 10 - 7/21/2026 - Page / Monument Valley Day 11 - 7/22/2026 - Monument Valley / Durango Day 12 - 7/23/2026 - Durango Day 13 - 7/24/2026 - Durango Day 14 - 7/25/2026 - Durango Day 15 - 7/26/2026 - Durango / Glenwood Springs Day 16 - 7/27/2026 - Glenwood Springs Day 17 - 7/28/2026 - Glenwood Springs / Moab Day 18 - 7/29/2026 - Moab Day 19 - 7/30/2026 - Moab Day 20 - 7/31/2026 - Moab Day 21 - 8/1/2026 - Moab Day 22 - 8/2/2026 - Moab / Vernal Day 23 - 8/3/2026 - Vernal / Grand Teton Day 24 - 8/4/2026 - Grand Teton Day 25 - 8/5/2026 - Grand Teton / Cody Day 26 - 8/6/2026 - Cody / Yellowstone Day 27 - 8/7/2026 - Yellowstone Day 28 - 8/8/2026 - Yellowstone Day 29 - 8/9/2026 - Yellowstone Day 30 - 8/10/2026 - Yellowstone / Salt Lake City Day 31 - 8/11/2026 - Salt Lake City / Bryce Canyon Day 32 - 8/12/2026 - Bryce Canyon / Zion Day 33 - 8/13/2026 - Zion Day 34 - 8/14/2026 - Zion Day 35 - 8/15/2026 - Zion / Las Vegas Day 36 - 8/16/2026 - Las Vegas Day 37 - 8/17/2026 - Las Vegas / Los Angeles Day 38 - 8/18/2026 - Los Angeles Day 39 - 8/19/2026 - Los Angeles / Brussels Day 40 - 8/20/2026 - Brussels / Home
We’ll be alternating between house swaps, motels, and campgrounds. I’ve booked all the accommodations (except the campground at Bryce since sunset bookings open only 14 days in advance) and the first activities, as well as the most touristy ones.
I’m currently putting together my day-by-day roadbook and having some trouble planning certain days, like in LA or Las Vegas. Choosing hikes isn’t easy either—it’s tough to decide!
We’re really excited but could definitely use your help with choices and optimizations!!
Hello.
I’d like to travel along I-15N from San Diego to Las Vegas with my mom, who’s 67. We’ve explored Northern California and the California Coast over the past two years and now want to continue through the desert.
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
There are several attractions along the way: - Mormon Rocks - Desert Discovery Center and visit the Old Woman meteorite - Joshua Tree National Park - Mojave Desert - Mojave National Preserve - Anza-Borrego Desert State Park - Silverwood Lake
My mom has back issues that prevent her from hiking or walking on trails with elevation changes. Is it possible to visit these places by car, or are the routes flat enough?
I’d love for her to experience the desert with an itinerary adapted to her condition. I’m also open to other points of interest that aren’t mentioned. We have 3-4 days for the trip, so we’re not in a rush—just want to explore.
Thanks so much. The trip would be in fall 2026
Hi there,
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
I’d love to take a road trip and visit Nova Scotia. I’d appreciate some info on the best cities to see and the most interesting spots. The trip should last about 10 to 15 days, staying in hotels or motels. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Quick question—I’m heading to New York soon and I’d love to know if you guys have any recommendations for websites where I can buy concert tickets?
Hi there,
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
We’re being relocated to Saint Pierre and Miquelon. We’ll be taking the flight from Nantes to Montreal and then from Montreal to Saint Pierre. Could you recommend a hotel near the departure terminal that allows dogs?
Thanks!
Hi,
My 16-year-old son is flying to Grand Rapids with other kids his age. There’s a layover in Detroit. There’s no unaccompanied minor service available. Is it pretty easy to navigate Detroit Airport to catch the connecting flight to Grand Rapids (domestic flight)? There are several of them who speak English well.
Thanks for your replies,
Good evening, everyone! 🙂
Just a few last questions to wrap up our Lake Tahoe visit plans.
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
**Parking:** We’d like to walk to Eagle Falls and then Eagle Lake. I’ve spotted two parking lots that seem close to each other and give access to the trailhead. Where and how do we pay for entry to Emerald Bay State Park and Inspiration Point?
**Viewpoints on the East Side:** Are most of the viewpoints (Balancing Rock, Granite Cave, Bonsai Rock, etc.) right by the road, or do you have to hike to reach them?
**Donner Memorial State Park:** Is it worth making a detour to Truckee to visit this park and the Truckee historic downtown?
Thanks in advance for your tips! 🙂
Hi there. I'm shocked by the price of the Upper Antelope Canyon tour—$175 for less than an hour… You might say, "if you can’t afford it…" But the real question is whether it’s really worth it, because $350 for two makes me feel like I’m getting ripped off. For those who’ve done both Lower and Upper, can you tell me if the price difference is really justified? Thanks
Hi everyone! 🙂
As you can see, we're heading back from September 6th to the 27th.
Everything’s booked for September—flights, accommodations, and the car. As I plan, I’ll be asking the experts for help. This is our second trip to California, but most of the stops are new to us.
We’ll start directly from San Francisco to our first overnight stop, Davis, before heading to Lassen Volcanic Park for 4 nights. Our flight lands at 12:50 PM.
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here’s our itinerary: Day 1: Davis – overnight stop Day 2: Red Bluff – exploring Lassen Volcanic Park (scenic drive to Lake Helen) Day 3: Susanville – scenic drive through the park via the South Entrance, points of interest, and hikes Day 4: Susanville – Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes hike Day 5: Susanville – Warner Valley (hikes) Day 6: South Lake Tahoe Day 7: South Lake Tahoe Day 8: Mammoth Lake Day 9: Mammoth Lake Day 10: El Portal via Tioga Road Day 11: El Portal Day 12: El Portal Day 13: Oakhurst Day 14: Miramonte Day 15: Three Rivers Day 16: Three Rivers Day 17: Coalinga Day 18: Monterey Day 19: Monterey Day 20: San Francisco Day 21: San Francisco Day 22: Departure
For hikes in Lassen Volcanic Park, I’ve planned: Bumpass Hell, Cold Boiling Lake (Day 2) Paradise Meadow (maybe not going all the way), Devastated Area, and the loop around Reflection and Manzanita Lakes (Day 3) Cinder Cone and Painted Dunes (Day 4) Devil’s Kitchen and Boiling Spring Lake (Day 5)
I’ve read there are trails to access the trailheads for Cinder Cone (11 km) and Warner Valley. Are these easy trails for an SUV? Are there any other must-see spots or things we shouldn’t miss?
That’s where I’m at for now. Thanks for your replies, and have a great evening! Marcalamar 🙂
Here's a tip for future visitors!
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/3-national-parks-slash-red-tape-americans-boldly-transforming-visitor-entry
Hi everyone,
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
I’m a total USA addict. I’ve already done several road trips, including the East Coast and West Coast. I’m here today because I’m planning to go back for another road trip on the West Coast. Possibly with one of my sisters and a couple of friends. It’s still just a plan for now, but I’m working on an itinerary in the meantime. Ideally, I’d leave in 2026, but I don’t have the exact dates yet—maybe April-May or September-October. My last trip to the West Coast was in September 2014. We went for 2 weeks, but this time it’d be 3 weeks. What made me want to go back was simply a colleague who just left today. As I’m writing this, he’s on the plane. I’m so happy for him, but now all I can think about is going back.
Since I recently went to NY, I noticed that prices have really gone up. I assume the same is true for the West Coast? For 2 people over 3 weeks, what budget should I expect? We’re the type to watch our spending and find great tips. I think we’ll arrive in San Francisco like the first time and leave from either Los Angeles or Las Vegas.
Thanks to everyone for your advice and help.
Thanks for advising me on the booking—should I reserve a room in the hotel or go for a cabin for the best view?
Should I get breakfast or not?
What do you think of the restaurant?
Hello, if the off-the-beaten-path enthusiasts are still around 😉, I’d love some info on tackling these trails. I’m not super familiar with the rules, risks, or what to expect—I’m looking for firsthand experience from folks who’ve done it on their own once or multiple times.
Hi everyone!
I’m planning a week-long family trip to NYC in October 2026. The focus is on museums and soaking up the New York vibe. I’ve been checking Airbnb, but the prices in Manhattan are through the roof. Since I don’t know NYC well, is it "wise" to look outside Manhattan? Any neighborhoods you’d recommend?
Hello,
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
After our first trip to the West, we’d love to go back to see other must-see spots!
The stay would be from May 11 to 20, 2026—it’s short, but hey...
M11: Lyon to Las Vegas (overnight in Vegas) T12: Route 66 – overnight in Grand Canyon (GC) W13: Visit GC – overnight in Page Th14: Visit Antelope Canyon / Horseshoe Bend – overnight in Monument Valley (MV) F15: Visit MV – overnight in Moab Sa16: Visit Arches / Dead Horse Point – overnight in Bryce Su17: Visit Bryce – overnight in Zion M18: Visit Zion / Valley of Fire – overnight in Vegas Tu19: Return flight
What do you think? Could we add one more night somewhere? We’re not big hikers, so we’ll mostly explore the parks using shuttles.
Also, we’re all set—passports are good. Do you think one classic Visa card and one premium Visa card will be enough for coverage?
Thanks so much for your feedback, and happy holidays!
Christophe
Hi North America forum crew,
Just a little post that might interest some of you:
Travelers to the United States | Photo Now Mandatory Upon Entry and Exit | La Presse
Hi everyone.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
I assume many of you already know, but the America the Beautiful annual pass, which was $80, will increase to $250 starting January 1, 2026.
So if you're planning to travel before the end of December 2026, it's in your best interest to buy your pass in December 2025, since it will still cost $80 and be valid until the end of December 2026 if you purchase it in December 2025.
This price increase only applies to non-U.S. residents.
Additionally, for those who planned to visit just one park, a $100 surcharge per person will apply to access a list of 11 national parks... For example, if there are 4 of you in a car, you’ll have to pay $35 + $400, which comes to $435 to visit one of the 11 parks on the list (I don’t have all of them... Bryce, Zion, Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Grand Teton, etc.). Total madness.
The goal is to push people who only visit one park into buying the annual pass.
Last point: free entry days are over for non-residents!
That’s all for now.
Hi everyone, I’m traveling to Los Angeles and would like to rent a vehicle at the airport. However, I have a Boursobank Ultim deferred debit card, so I’d love to know if it’s possible for those who’ve experienced this recently. Thanks for the info!
Hi VF community,
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine
I’m planning a week in S.F. in April 2026 and I can’t figure out how to tell the cable cars—of which I understand there are three lines—apart from the trams, which I think number seven. I can’t find their individual numbers or routes anywhere.
Could someone shed some light on this for me? Thanks in advance.
Wishing you all a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2026 full of amazing travels. Cheers, Régine