Partir en Thaïlande avec un aller-retour sur 2 mois sans visa?
by Flatour
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Je viens de trouver Hat Yai - Kuala a 990THB
Si je trouve pas mieux je book cette nuit :)
Total 2500. Dont 1400 de frais d'airport... peut etre récupérables ! Tout?
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Pas mal!!! merci quelle entraide!
Je crois que tu n'auras pas moins cher !! Normalement tu récupères les 1400 de taxes d'aéroport sans problème.
Exact, a priori long, mais sur. Et peut etre 80-160 bahts de "frais" par passager a retrancher. http://www.airasia.com/ask/template.do?id=443
Je réserve tout a l heure ou demain car + de frais d'exchange quand les marchés sont off :)
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Pas mal!!! merci quelle entraide!
Je crois que tu n'auras pas moins cher !! Normalement tu récupères les 1400 de taxes d'aéroport sans problème.
Exact, a priori long, mais sur. Et peut etre 80-160 bahts de "frais" par passager a retrancher. http://www.airasia.com/ask/template.do?id=443
Je réserve tout a l heure ou demain car + de frais d'exchange quand les marchés sont off :)
Bonjour, pourras-tu nous dire ensuite comment cela s'est passé au comptoir d'enregistrement ainsi qu'à l'immigration à l'arrivée à BKK ? Merci et bon voyage.
Hello. Bien arrivé. Alors en gros. Je suis arrivé au comptoir un peu en avance. J'avais en poche la confirmation de mon Hat Yay-Kuala. La demoiselle m'a en effet demandé de lui présenter mon billet de retour/sortie. Elle a regardé rapidement et ca lui a été (donc 100% sur que si j'avais imprimé moi meme un truc/photoshopé ca serait passé puisqu'elle n'a pas été vérifier dans la base IATA.... mais je voulais pas prendre le risque, et encore moins avec l'immigration Thai).
Pour l'anecdote. Ils n'ont pu prendre mes bagages que 30min apres. Donc sorte de re-mini-check in avec une autre nana qui elle aussi voulait voir le billet de retour. Finalement je ne les ai pas sorti car la collegue précédente a fait signe qu'elle avait deja checké.
mais comme quoi ils ne rigolent pas trop.
La nana m'a confirmé qu'a une époque ils "bidouillaient" (j imagine faire un billet temporaire BKK-PAR) mais soidisant ils font plus... on dirait qu'en insistant c'est envisageable... mais jamais évident de venir a l'aéroport en n'étant pas sur qu'on décolle...
J'ai par contre pas pensé a demander si billet train/bus aurait suffit.
Donc a la fin cette histoire va me couter 2650THB (2 adultes 1 bebe, voyage a 990thb/personne+taxe+frais CB) et ils devraient me rembourser 700*2=1400 THB.Moins quelques frais, 2x90 ou 2x180 donc disons 1000 bahts. Cout total 1650 bahts pour etre sur de décoller ca me va.
A l'immigration a BKK aucune question malgré aller simple, malgré 5-6 visas dans mon passeport (mais "rien" depuis 2 ans).
Une question... comme je ne suis pas sur de pouvoir aller a Penang faire un visa touriste, savez vous si sans visa, comme moi, on peut quand meme extend de 30 jours a l'immigration, donc sans sortir?
Si oui, cela n'empeche pas de faire apres un vrai visa a Penang?
Enfin, toujours si oui, cette extension je peux la faire a tout moment avant les 30 jours et elle prolonge bien au terme des 30 jours, pas 30 jours apres que j'en fasse la demande?
Merci :)
Hello. Bien arrivé. Alors en gros. Je suis arrivé au comptoir un peu en avance. J'avais en poche la confirmation de mon Hat Yay-Kuala. La demoiselle m'a en effet demandé de lui présenter mon billet de retour/sortie. Elle a regardé rapidement et ca lui a été (donc 100% sur que si j'avais imprimé moi meme un truc/photoshopé ca serait passé puisqu'elle n'a pas été vérifier dans la base IATA.... mais je voulais pas prendre le risque, et encore moins avec l'immigration Thai).
Pour l'anecdote. Ils n'ont pu prendre mes bagages que 30min apres. Donc sorte de re-mini-check in avec une autre nana qui elle aussi voulait voir le billet de retour. Finalement je ne les ai pas sorti car la collegue précédente a fait signe qu'elle avait deja checké.
mais comme quoi ils ne rigolent pas trop.
La nana m'a confirmé qu'a une époque ils "bidouillaient" (j imagine faire un billet temporaire BKK-PAR) mais soidisant ils font plus... on dirait qu'en insistant c'est envisageable... mais jamais évident de venir a l'aéroport en n'étant pas sur qu'on décolle...
J'ai par contre pas pensé a demander si billet train/bus aurait suffit.
Donc a la fin cette histoire va me couter 2650THB (2 adultes 1 bebe, voyage a 990thb/personne+taxe+frais CB) et ils devraient me rembourser 700*2=1400 THB.Moins quelques frais, 2x90 ou 2x180 donc disons 1000 bahts. Cout total 1650 bahts pour etre sur de décoller ca me va.
A l'immigration a BKK aucune question malgré aller simple, malgré 5-6 visas dans mon passeport (mais "rien" depuis 2 ans).
Une question... comme je ne suis pas sur de pouvoir aller a Penang faire un visa touriste, savez vous si sans visa, comme moi, on peut quand meme extend de 30 jours a l'immigration, donc sans sortir?
Si oui, cela n'empeche pas de faire apres un vrai visa a Penang?
Enfin, toujours si oui, cette extension je peux la faire a tout moment avant les 30 jours et elle prolonge bien au terme des 30 jours, pas 30 jours apres que j'en fasse la demande?
Merci :)
Bonjour.
Merci de ton retour, heureux de savoir que tout c'est bien passé et que nos conseils ont été utiles. Ca confirme bien que parfois (voire souvent) des contrôles sont réalisés à l'embarquement et la tranquillité d'esprit vaut l'investissement :-)
Pour l'extension de 30 jours, aucun problème tu te présentes à un bureau d'immigration avant la fin de ton exemption (moi je le fais généralement après 2 semaines) et ils te tamponnent 30 jours en plus que la date de sortie prévue.
Ca ne doit pas poser de problèmes pour un "vrai" visa, la limite étant de 180 jours par an sur place au total
Merci de ton retour, heureux de savoir que tout c'est bien passé et que nos conseils ont été utiles. Ca confirme bien que parfois (voire souvent) des contrôles sont réalisés à l'embarquement et la tranquillité d'esprit vaut l'investissement :-)
Pour l'extension de 30 jours, aucun problème tu te présentes à un bureau d'immigration avant la fin de ton exemption (moi je le fais généralement après 2 semaines) et ils te tamponnent 30 jours en plus que la date de sortie prévue.
Ca ne doit pas poser de problèmes pour un "vrai" visa, la limite étant de 180 jours par an sur place au total
Hello. Bien arrivé. Alors en gros. Je suis arrivé au comptoir un peu en avance. J'avais en poche la confirmation de mon Hat Yay-Kuala. La demoiselle...
Hello merci du retour.
Exemption 30 jours extensible de 30 jours. Vous pouvez demander cette extension n importe quand durant vos 30 jours initiaux (particularité regionale des offices possible). L extension démarre a la fin de votre exemption quelle que soit la date de la demande. Pas d incidence sur une demande de visa a penang. ++ bon sejour
Hello merci du retour.
Exemption 30 jours extensible de 30 jours. Vous pouvez demander cette extension n importe quand durant vos 30 jours initiaux (particularité regionale des offices possible). L extension démarre a la fin de votre exemption quelle que soit la date de la demande. Pas d incidence sur une demande de visa a penang. ++ bon sejour
A la lumière des années passées dépend la vitesse
Ca ne doit pas poser de problèmes pour un "vrai" visa, la limite étant de 180 jours par an sur place au total
Hello, 180j max en exemption de visa. Avec visa T il n y a pas de limite de jours par année. Certains consulats/ambassades par contre adopteront localement cette idée dans les conditions de delivrance d un visa T ( Paris/Lyon par ex et sauf erreur) ! ++
Hello, 180j max en exemption de visa. Avec visa T il n y a pas de limite de jours par année. Certains consulats/ambassades par contre adopteront localement cette idée dans les conditions de delivrance d un visa T ( Paris/Lyon par ex et sauf erreur) ! ++
A la lumière des années passées dépend la vitesse
Bonjour et merci pour le CR. Pour ta dernière question, je ne suis pas qualifié pour pouvoir te répondre. D'autres seront en mesure de le faire j'en suis sûr.
Bon voyage
Serge
Re bonjour
Je profite d'avoir trouvé de grand spécialistes :)
Quand je ferai mon extension de 30 jours a l'immigration locale. Je devrai payer pour ma femme et moi 1900 bahts/personne. Mais pour mon bébé?
Meme question dans l'éventualité ou on va dans une ambassade autour faire un visa 2 mois...
Je vous remercie :)
Re bonjour
Je profite d'avoir trouvé de grand spécialistes :)
Quand je ferai mon extension de 30 jours a l'immigration locale. Je devrai payer pour ma femme et moi 1900 bahts/personne. Mais pour mon bébé?
Meme question dans l'éventualité ou on va dans une ambassade autour faire un visa 2 mois...
Je vous remercie :)
Hello, Pour votre fils egalement (visa / extension).
L officier vous dira peut etre pas besoin pour le petit (il n y a pas d amende overstay pour les enfants).
Mais insistez ... pour payer et etre en regle pour tous ( sejour illegal pour le petit peut entrainer des complications avec les assurances si soucis sur place par ex). ++
Hello, Pour votre fils egalement (visa / extension).
L officier vous dira peut etre pas besoin pour le petit (il n y a pas d amende overstay pour les enfants).
Mais insistez ... pour payer et etre en regle pour tous ( sejour illegal pour le petit peut entrainer des complications avec les assurances si soucis sur place par ex). ++
A la lumière des années passées dépend la vitesse
Bonjour a tous et a toutes
Dans 2 jours je quitte la Thailande... bah oui n'a le droit que 30+30 jours... et je suis contre aller en malaisie en risquant ma vie pour obtenir un visa.
Je fais donc une pause 4 mois a la maison en France et je reviendrai pour l'hiver francais...
Une question cependant... je ne suis pas en overstay... mais mon bebe l'est ... normalement pas de probleme hein?
merci!
Normalement, pas d'overstay pour les mineurs. Vérifié en 2014 et 2015. Un petit passage dans un bureau de l'immigration à suvarnabhum, 5min, un coup de tampon et voilà. Pas refait depuis.
Bonjour a tous et a toutes
Dans 2 jours je quitte la Thailande... bah oui n'a le droit que 30+30 jours... et je suis contre aller en malaisie en risquant ma vie pour obtenir un visa.
Je fais donc une pause 4 mois a la maison en France et je reviendrai pour l'hiver francais...
Une question cependant... je ne suis pas en overstay... mais mon bebe l'est ... normalement pas de probleme hein?
merci!
Juste par curiosité, en quoi risque tu t a vie ?
Juste par curiosité, en quoi risque tu t a vie ?
Normalement, pas d'overstay pour les mineurs. Vérifié en 2014 et 2015. Un petit passage dans un bureau de l'immigration à suvarnabhum, 5min, un coup de tampon et voilà. Pas refait depuis.
Hello, Sauf erreur il n y a pas d amende mais il y a overstay.
Pas de consequence au passage de l immigration.
Mais statut illegal ( problematique accident, assurance, checkpoint police / armee pendant le sejour !) ++
Hello, Sauf erreur il n y a pas d amende mais il y a overstay.
Pas de consequence au passage de l immigration.
Mais statut illegal ( problematique accident, assurance, checkpoint police / armee pendant le sejour !) ++
A la lumière des années passées dépend la vitesse
Merci pour vos reponses!
Immigration dans 12h, ca devrait aller :)
Oui pas de souci bon voyage ! Ma reponse a faniko visait global pour d autres lecteurs pas pour vous particulierement.
Oui pas de souci bon voyage ! Ma reponse a faniko visait global pour d autres lecteurs pas pour vous particulierement.
A la lumière des années passées dépend la vitesse
Bonjour
Nous venons de passer l'immigration
En effet passage par un petit bureau dans un couloir mais on ne nous a meme pas parlé d overstay (on va dire que si je savais pas bah je saurais pas). Pas un mot, pas un reproche... juste 30secondes devant un bureau a attendre pendant que les autres policieres font des coucous au bebe... :)
Merci a vous now le vol!
Bonjour Nato,
"Si tu voyage avec un visa, pas besoin de montrer un billet de continuation. Si tu voyage sans visa (eco, biz, premiere) on peut te le demander."
Je me suis fait refoulé à l'embarquement à Colombo avec Sri Lanka airways en 2016 alors que j'avais ma lettre pour l'obtention du visa à l'arrivée à hanoi. Depuis, j'achète un billet de sortie que je n'utilise pas. Chat échaudé ..... Cordialement
Le ton péremptoire employé par certains pour asséner leurs arguments me gon....
Je me suis fait refoulé à l'embarquement à Colombo avec Sri Lanka airways en 2016 alors que j'avais ma lettre pour l'obtention du visa à l'arrivée à hanoi. Depuis, j'achète un billet de sortie que je n'utilise pas. Chat échaudé ..... Cordialement
Le ton péremptoire employé par certains pour asséner leurs arguments me gon....
J'ai cru comprendre que ca dépendait des compagnies?
Merci!
Bonjour,
Vous avez bien compris! ça dépend des compagnies aériennes... Certaines jugeront que vous avez une exemption de visa à 30 jours et que vous ferez une extension au bureau de l'immigration, une fois en thailande pour 30 jours supplémentaires (donc ils vous laissent passer) et certaines jugeront que "pas de justificatif au delà des 30 jours", c'est à dire pas de visa dans le passeport équivaut à ne pas pouvoir embarquer pour la Thailande...
cordialement
Bjr,
Je suis sur le point de partir et me pose la même question ! Avez vous d'autres retourd'expérience depuis ?
Bonjour,
Vous avez bien compris! ça dépend des compagnies aériennes... Certaines jugeront que vous avez une exemption de visa à 30 jours et que vous ferez une extension au bureau de l'immigration, une fois en thailande pour 30 jours supplémentaires (donc ils vous laissent passer) et certaines jugeront que "pas de justificatif au delà des 30 jours", c'est à dire pas de visa dans le passeport équivaut à ne pas pouvoir embarquer pour la Thailande...
cordialement
Bjr,
Je suis sur le point de partir et me pose la même question ! Avez vous d'autres retourd'expérience depuis ?
Bonjour, j'ai voyagé sur Qatar le 23 janvier au départ de CDG avec un ticket pour un AxR BKK dont le retour était fixé 6 semaines plus tard. Je n'avais pas de visa sur mon passeport. Ils ne m'ont rien demandé et à l'arrivée à BKK j'ai obtenu sans difficulté une exemption de 30 jours. Néanmoins j'avais pris la précaution de me munir d'un ticket de sortie Air Asia Pucket / Malaisie (autour de 30 €) que je n'ai pas utilisé. Un refus d'embarquement pour ce motif, j'ai déjà donné. C'était il y a 2 ans à Colombo et je peux vous garantir que ce est pas sympa.
Bonne journée
Je vais donc opter pour cette solution aussi .. Merci pourvotre réponse!
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Thanks for your feedback.
Hi there,
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
I read on the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs website that it’s possible to apply for a temporary driving permit in China, valid for 1 month. I’m planning to rent a car (without a driver) to explore part of the country next August, so I was wondering:
Has anyone here already gone through this process upon arrival? How long do the formalities take on the spot? Is it possible to handle these steps in advance, before arriving in China?
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Hi
Has anyone been to Rwanda recently and gotten a 3-month visa on arrival easily?
Thanks
Hi there,
My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel