La Thaïlande existe-t-elle encore?
by Stiwadii
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Khong co sau !
Comme tu le dis, "facilites", pour certains du moins. Ce qui engendre une paresse physique et surtout intellectuelle nous empechant de raisonner et favorisant le fait de suivre le troupeau et ceux qui le dirigent. Tout est (re)lie...
Sur ce, ni toi ni moi n'y pourrons rien changer, le train est en marche, la locomotive est encore en superpuissance et meme si on l'arretait subitement, la force d'inertie propulserait tout ce beau ?, petit?, moche?, malheureux? monde en avant pour encore de nombreuses annees.
Profitons donc du temps qu'il nous reste quitte a respirer du CO2, boire du lait pasteurise et manger du poulet aux hormones en tentant, chacun selon ses moyens, d'ameliorer le sort de ceux qui n'ont ni lait ni poulet a se mettre sous la dent.
Bises, Pat
Khong co sau !
Comme tu le dis, "facilites", pour certains du moins. Ce qui engendre une paresse physique et surtout intellectuelle nous empechant de raisonner et favorisant le fait de suivre le troupeau et ceux qui le dirigent. Tout est (re)lie...
Sur ce, ni toi ni moi n'y pourrons rien changer, le train est en marche, la locomotive est encore en superpuissance et meme si on l'arretait subitement, la force d'inertie propulserait tout ce beau ?, petit?, moche?, malheureux? monde en avant pour encore de nombreuses annees.
Profitons donc du temps qu'il nous reste quitte a respirer du CO2, boire du lait pasteurise et manger du poulet aux hormones en tentant, chacun selon ses moyens, d'ameliorer le sort de ceux qui n'ont ni lait ni poulet a se mettre sous la dent.
Bises, Pat
tu as oublié l'amour dans ta liste
le sentimental et le physique
L'amour, c'est ce qui m'a toujours guide, j'oublie donc de le mentionner vu qu'il est evident pour moi. Pour le physique, PapyQua est plutot comme la tulipe de la pub medicale, si tu connais....🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️😕😕😕😕😕, je commence a savoir hurler comme les loups... de desespoir 😉
le sentimental et le physique
L'amour, c'est ce qui m'a toujours guide, j'oublie donc de le mentionner vu qu'il est evident pour moi. Pour le physique, PapyQua est plutot comme la tulipe de la pub medicale, si tu connais....🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️😕😕😕😕😕, je commence a savoir hurler comme les loups... de desespoir 😉
contente que tu parles des gens en ASE, valable aussi chez nous !
qu'en pensent les Thaïlandais puisque le sujet traite de la Thaïlande, "on ne reconnaît plus la Thaïlande d'il y a XX années ... quel dommage ! c'était si sympa ... on se prenait ... non ! excusez-moi, nous étions des aventuriers ... des vrais de vrais ..."
tout ceci est lamentable ! paroles de personnes qui ont toujours connu l'eau potable, l'enseignement obligatoire etc ... et ils viennent de plaindre que la Thaïlande n'est plus comme avant ...
curieuse façon de voir pour des personnes qui se disent des voyageurs ! des frimeurs d'alors qui au jour d'aujourd'hui n'ont plus ingrédients pour le faire ...
je ne peux qu'être contente que le niveau de niveau des thaïlandais se rapproche de plus en plus du nôtre ... comment puis-je me satisfaire de faire un voyage dans un pays ou un nombre X de personnes soient démunies de tout ... etc ...
j'attendais une réponse comme la tienne pour dire que ce post passéiste a des relents de ... néo-colonialisme à deux sous ... cad sans aucune référence ... du lâcher ... suivez-moi 😕😕😕
à les entendre, ils regrettent la misère ... à photographier si possible car une fois rentrer dans leur pays ils pensent faire figure de ...
moi, lorsque je voyage et lorsque je rentre en France, je n'aspire qu'à une chose que nous tous, dans le même bateau, nous ayons le droit à vivre dans une Démocratie et ainsi afin que chacun puisse mettre une pierre à l édifice de leur propre pays, DEBOUT !
"pendant un instant l'usage des yeux : la lecture du monde. italo Calvino "Paroles de voyageurs" si tu n'as pas étudié, voyage".
confusion des genres ...
"pendant un instant l'usage des yeux : la lecture du monde. italo Calvino "Paroles de voyageurs" si tu n'as pas étudié, voyage".
toi qui "pleure" ta bonne vieiile Corse, je constate que la Vendetta existe toujours !!!
"pendant un instant l'usage des yeux : la lecture du monde. italo Calvino "Paroles de voyageurs" si tu n'as pas étudié, voyage".
Le pire sera le jour, et cela viendra j'espère, où ils devront payer le travail des autres à un prix correct... Par correct, j'entends 50% du salaire auquel ils acceptent de travailler... Ce jour là, ils hurleront à mort : c'était mieux avant.....😏
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
ils feront comme nous, alors ... cela prendra du temps ... mais ce jour arrivera où leurs enfants auront tous le droit aux études ... cela viendra bcp plus vite que l'on puisse le penser ... désormais l'ASE est une région du monde en pleine évolution ...
"pendant un instant l'usage des yeux : la lecture du monde. italo Calvino "Paroles de voyageurs" si tu n'as pas étudié, voyage".
mais ce jour arrivera où leurs enfants auront tous le droit aux études ...
je n'ai pas trop envi de polémiquer, mais pourquoi pour être heureux, faut il avoir fait des études ?????
qu'il soit permis d'en faire dans toutes les conditions possibles a l'accésibilité c'est un fait acquis sur lequel, personne ne peut rien dire ; mais ta phrase laisse à penser que sans études, pas de vie heureuse possible dans une société !
PS j'écris cela juste pour t'embéter 😏
je n'ai pas trop envi de polémiquer, mais pourquoi pour être heureux, faut il avoir fait des études ?????
qu'il soit permis d'en faire dans toutes les conditions possibles a l'accésibilité c'est un fait acquis sur lequel, personne ne peut rien dire ; mais ta phrase laisse à penser que sans études, pas de vie heureuse possible dans une société !
PS j'écris cela juste pour t'embéter 😏
trouver son chemin personnel a travers le chemin initiatique du voyage
salut cousin!
Entièrement d'accord avec toi ! Cette discussion manque un peu de lumière ! Après tout, on peut préférer une civilisation qui construit des métropolitains importés à celle qui développe le wat Pha Kreo...après tout ce là dépend du point de vue initial, esthetique, fonctionnel, culurel, social Etc ...pour rester dans des mots simples...ou presque!
Ou est la discussion, lorsque personne ne cherche à comprendre ce que vient de dire l'autre ?...Derrière, ce sont des lignes de fond, de pensée et non une remise en cause du developpement qui se dessinent ...Je retrouve cette ligne, sur ton message sur Boracay, moi aussi je prefère l'image imprégnée dans ma cervelle de piaf, d'un Boracay d'il y a 15 ans....Lorsque nous disons celà, nous nous situons d'un pont de vue "estétique" ou "emotionnel"... Ces points de vues sont loin d'etre pris en compte dans les stratégies de développement et de cuculisation internationale...
On se fait taxer de passéiste parce qu'à l'uniforme(le modèle unique) on préfère la diversité, au superficiel et à la reproduction de masse l'original qui seul permet de reconnaitre les différeences culturelles et donc eventuellement de les apprecier... Pcq nous osons dire que nous préferons la pauvreté à la misère ...Pcq nous ne considerons pas comme une avancée l'exportation de notre modèle, ce que meme la colonisation n'a pas réussi à faire, la modernité y arrive et nous n'applaudissons pas alors que les plus revolutionnaires et critiques d'entre nous, tombent dans le piège, applaudir aux promesses d'un developpement artificiel imposé par les lois du marché et de ceux qui, là bas, ont le pouvoir et ont désiré jouer aux singes !
Allez tant qu'i restera chez toi quelques chataignes, un peu d'alcool de myrthe ...tout ne sera pas perdu !
PACE Y SALUTE!
Entièrement d'accord avec toi ! Cette discussion manque un peu de lumière ! Après tout, on peut préférer une civilisation qui construit des métropolitains importés à celle qui développe le wat Pha Kreo...après tout ce là dépend du point de vue initial, esthetique, fonctionnel, culurel, social Etc ...pour rester dans des mots simples...ou presque!
Ou est la discussion, lorsque personne ne cherche à comprendre ce que vient de dire l'autre ?...Derrière, ce sont des lignes de fond, de pensée et non une remise en cause du developpement qui se dessinent ...Je retrouve cette ligne, sur ton message sur Boracay, moi aussi je prefère l'image imprégnée dans ma cervelle de piaf, d'un Boracay d'il y a 15 ans....Lorsque nous disons celà, nous nous situons d'un pont de vue "estétique" ou "emotionnel"... Ces points de vues sont loin d'etre pris en compte dans les stratégies de développement et de cuculisation internationale...
On se fait taxer de passéiste parce qu'à l'uniforme(le modèle unique) on préfère la diversité, au superficiel et à la reproduction de masse l'original qui seul permet de reconnaitre les différeences culturelles et donc eventuellement de les apprecier... Pcq nous osons dire que nous préferons la pauvreté à la misère ...Pcq nous ne considerons pas comme une avancée l'exportation de notre modèle, ce que meme la colonisation n'a pas réussi à faire, la modernité y arrive et nous n'applaudissons pas alors que les plus revolutionnaires et critiques d'entre nous, tombent dans le piège, applaudir aux promesses d'un developpement artificiel imposé par les lois du marché et de ceux qui, là bas, ont le pouvoir et ont désiré jouer aux singes !
Allez tant qu'i restera chez toi quelques chataignes, un peu d'alcool de myrthe ...tout ne sera pas perdu !
PACE Y SALUTE!
Roger
toi qui "pleure" ta bonne vieiile Corse, je constate que la Vendetta existe toujours !!!
Helas les traditions se perdent; heureusement il en reste encore. Quand cela deviendra comme sur le continent ou tout le monde peut se permettre de faire et dire n'importe quoi sans etre inquiete, il sera alors temps de changer d'ile.😐
Helas les traditions se perdent; heureusement il en reste encore. Quand cela deviendra comme sur le continent ou tout le monde peut se permettre de faire et dire n'importe quoi sans etre inquiete, il sera alors temps de changer d'ile.😐
😉Salut Roger;
rien n'empeche de prendre le Skytrain pour aller bruler des encens dans un Wat!!!! et c'est tant mieux!!! La culture et le modernisme ne sont pas forcément contradictoire!!!
apres c'est ce que les gens en font!!!
c'est comme dire que la TV tue le livre, c'est faux, c'est juste que la plupart des gens ne font plus l'effort d'ouvrir un boukin et que la TV en profite!!!
des amalgammes ont peut en faire beaucoup a ce train la😛!!!!!!!
La Thailande est "vrai", comme les autres pays, autant par ces vestiges que par son modernisme (autant par son passer que pour son futur)
et (excuse moi du terme) mais est bien pitoyable le genre de phase, c'était mieux avant!!! avant quoi??? quand y avait pas d'hosto, pas d'infrastructures et que les thais n'avait jamais vu un blanc!!!!!(ça remonte a combien de siecles????) je sais je continue dans l'amalgamme!!!😛🤪😄😏
c'est sur qu'apres le coté surconsomation et regarde ma voiture, c'est pas ce que je preferes la bas!!!! mais comme ici en fait🙂😄😏
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rien n'empeche de prendre le Skytrain pour aller bruler des encens dans un Wat!!!! et c'est tant mieux!!! La culture et le modernisme ne sont pas forcément contradictoire!!!
apres c'est ce que les gens en font!!!
c'est comme dire que la TV tue le livre, c'est faux, c'est juste que la plupart des gens ne font plus l'effort d'ouvrir un boukin et que la TV en profite!!!
des amalgammes ont peut en faire beaucoup a ce train la😛!!!!!!!
La Thailande est "vrai", comme les autres pays, autant par ces vestiges que par son modernisme (autant par son passer que pour son futur)
et (excuse moi du terme) mais est bien pitoyable le genre de phase, c'était mieux avant!!! avant quoi??? quand y avait pas d'hosto, pas d'infrastructures et que les thais n'avait jamais vu un blanc!!!!!(ça remonte a combien de siecles????) je sais je continue dans l'amalgamme!!!😛🤪😄😏
c'est sur qu'apres le coté surconsomation et regarde ma voiture, c'est pas ce que je preferes la bas!!!! mais comme ici en fait🙂😄😏
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Un voyage de mille lis a commencé par un pas. (Lao-Tseu ; 1 lis=ancienne mesure chinoise équivalente a 576m définie des la dynastie Qin, mais qui variait selon la région et l'époque, valeur actuelle 500m, le li est une mesure coréenne d'environ 3920m)
pour les pti curieux!!! le chien subliminaleeu
Bonjour,
Ca fait plaisir de voir que les anciens(😉) sont toujours la.....
C'est MAGNIFIQUE!!!!!! Je suis passer du titre provocateur qui inaugurer le post directement à la derniere page: Vendetta, colonialisme.....Toujours aussi passionné!!!!!
C'est bizarre, j'arrive toujours pas comprendre. Comment faire 12000 kilometres, tomber sur un paysage hallucinant ou une plage de reve et trouver le moyen de se plaindre parce que d'autre partage ce moment avec vous?
Ne pas comprendre le sens de ce mot, c'est pas comme passer completement a coter de la Thailande?
Certains trouvent qu'il y a trop de touristes, OK, mais les plus "legitimement" blasés dans un certain sens, c'est pas les thais eux-meme?Ceux qui ont 60 ans par exemple...Elle ressembler à quoi la thailande de leur enfance?
Oui, j'aurais vraiment aimer connaitre la Thailande dont me parle nos vieux routards, celle des années 60/70, celle de ceux qui ont preferé continuer apres Katmandou pour venir se perdre dans le triangle d'or, ou plus au sud encore...
Si on se satisfesait de ce que l'on a, de temps en temps 😉!
Aykel
PS1 (J'espere que vous avez remarquer combien je me suis calmer apres mon 10 eme mois en Thailande, c'est comme arreter la picole ou la clope: J'ai besoins de vos encouragements pour continuer sur "La Voie" ahahaha!!!😇😇😇)
PS2 (Monsieur Fortini à raison!!!!!!! Y a pas que les diplomes dans le vie!!!!!!!😎
Voyager, c'est naître et mourir à chaque instant...
Victor Hugo
Salut Eliade, 🙂🙂🙂 pour la petite Ko Chang octobre a mars = ok
Âpres on peut y aller aussi mais il pleut parfois...
Petit truc : faire un passage sur le Myanmar pour les achats et c'est très "dépaysant".
Tu as fais des dons de poissons au fleuve ???
Âpres on peut y aller aussi mais il pleut parfois...
Petit truc : faire un passage sur le Myanmar pour les achats et c'est très "dépaysant".
Tu as fais des dons de poissons au fleuve ???
mai pen rai krap
j'ecrit sur clavier américain désolé pour les accents...
Bonjour,
Rassure toi je n'ai absolument rien contre les belges flamands ou walons que j'apprécie au contraire. Que veux tu, la presse parle toujours de commission de Bruxelles, de commissaires européens à Brux..., on ne parle peu de Strasbourg et de son parlement européen et ses députés rarement presents, les français en premier.
Tout ces fonctionnaires nous coutent beaucoup d'argent pour de bien piétres resultats et le "Shangrila " annoncé depuis le traité de Maastricht tarde à venir .
A 6 pays celà marchait pas mal, aujourd'hui à 27 c'est un monstrueux foutoir, on veut créér un vaste etat federal à l'image des USA alors que les populations n'en ont pas franchement envie.
cdlt Jean
A 6 pays celà marchait pas mal, aujourd'hui à 27 c'est un monstrueux foutoir, on veut créér un vaste etat federal à l'image des USA alors que les populations n'en ont pas franchement envie.
cdlt Jean
Hello Jean,
Je partage ton opinion. J'avais lu en son temps le cout des deplacements de nos chers dirigeants (accompagnes de leurs secretaires, de leur materiel professionnel, de leurs chauffeurs, de leurs clubs de golf, etc) entre les trois sites europeens. A vomir !!!
Pour ce qui est d'un Etat federal, rions, rions, mais pleurons surtout. L'Amerique de l'epoque etait un territoire nouvellement conquis (au detriment des locaux, ce que je deplore), en pleine construction et meme la ca a ete difficile, alors nous, avec nos traditions, modes de vie, langues et religions diametralement opposes, c'est quasi impossible. L'idee etait bonne au depart, mais maintenant... 😕 Ca me rappelle un peu lorsque j'etais gamine et que je passais mon temps a faire de la "cuisine" dans une vieille casserole de ma grand-mere. Je melangeais tout ce qui me tombait sous la main et, au final, j'obtenais une pate qui ressemblait a un vieil etron.😊🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
Bonne journee, Pat
Je partage ton opinion. J'avais lu en son temps le cout des deplacements de nos chers dirigeants (accompagnes de leurs secretaires, de leur materiel professionnel, de leurs chauffeurs, de leurs clubs de golf, etc) entre les trois sites europeens. A vomir !!!
Pour ce qui est d'un Etat federal, rions, rions, mais pleurons surtout. L'Amerique de l'epoque etait un territoire nouvellement conquis (au detriment des locaux, ce que je deplore), en pleine construction et meme la ca a ete difficile, alors nous, avec nos traditions, modes de vie, langues et religions diametralement opposes, c'est quasi impossible. L'idee etait bonne au depart, mais maintenant... 😕 Ca me rappelle un peu lorsque j'etais gamine et que je passais mon temps a faire de la "cuisine" dans une vieille casserole de ma grand-mere. Je melangeais tout ce qui me tombait sous la main et, au final, j'obtenais une pate qui ressemblait a un vieil etron.😊🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
Bonne journee, Pat
Salut Thibaut,
Tellement vrai pour dans pas longtemps....🙁😕
"Apres des siecles et des siecles de frouchelage, Le Flamand, comme un cretin agissant, A demoli par son marchandage Une patrie, un peuple et ses enfants"
Tellement vrai pour dans pas longtemps....🙁😕
"Apres des siecles et des siecles de frouchelage, Le Flamand, comme un cretin agissant, A demoli par son marchandage Une patrie, un peuple et ses enfants"
Salut Pat 😉
Ca me fait penser a un article lu hier sur Stéphane Bern qui s'est vu reprocher de ne pas parler flamand à Bruges 😄😏😏
BRUXELLES (AFP) — Le présentateur de télévision français Stéphane Bern est devenu la dernière victime collatérale en date du conflit politico-linguistique entre francophones et néerlandophones en Belgique, rapporte mardi le journal belge La Dernière Heure. Lors de son passage récent dans un restaurant à Bruges (Flandre, nord-ouest du pays), un serveur flamand a reproché au spécialiste des royautés d'Europe, que visiblement il ne connaissait pas, de ne pas s'adresser à lui en néerlandais. Le présentateur a expliqué qu'il était Français, ce à quoi le garçon de salle, mettant en doute ses dires, lui a rétorqué que "c'est toujours ce que vous dites, vous, les francophones" de Belgique, selon le quotidien. Interrogé sur l'incident, Stéphane Bern n'a pas désiré s'exprimer pour ne pas rajouter "de l'huile sur le feu entre la Flandre et la Wallonie", qui ont du mal depuis les législatives de juin 2007 à trouver un terrain d'entente sur une réforme des institutions belges. Depuis des décennies, contrairement aux Belges francophones de Bruxelles et de Wallonie, la population flamande ne regarde guère les chaînes françaises, d'autant qu'elles sont parfois absentes des offres des cablodistributeurs de Flandre. D'où l'anonymat de Stéphane Bern en Flandre.
Ca me fait penser a un article lu hier sur Stéphane Bern qui s'est vu reprocher de ne pas parler flamand à Bruges 😄😏😏
BRUXELLES (AFP) — Le présentateur de télévision français Stéphane Bern est devenu la dernière victime collatérale en date du conflit politico-linguistique entre francophones et néerlandophones en Belgique, rapporte mardi le journal belge La Dernière Heure. Lors de son passage récent dans un restaurant à Bruges (Flandre, nord-ouest du pays), un serveur flamand a reproché au spécialiste des royautés d'Europe, que visiblement il ne connaissait pas, de ne pas s'adresser à lui en néerlandais. Le présentateur a expliqué qu'il était Français, ce à quoi le garçon de salle, mettant en doute ses dires, lui a rétorqué que "c'est toujours ce que vous dites, vous, les francophones" de Belgique, selon le quotidien. Interrogé sur l'incident, Stéphane Bern n'a pas désiré s'exprimer pour ne pas rajouter "de l'huile sur le feu entre la Flandre et la Wallonie", qui ont du mal depuis les législatives de juin 2007 à trouver un terrain d'entente sur une réforme des institutions belges. Depuis des décennies, contrairement aux Belges francophones de Bruxelles et de Wallonie, la population flamande ne regarde guère les chaînes françaises, d'autant qu'elles sont parfois absentes des offres des cablodistributeurs de Flandre. D'où l'anonymat de Stéphane Bern en Flandre.
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
chaque jour je suis allée voir les poissons !!! mais j'ai complètement oublier de leur faire un don 😕😕😕 c'est nul, hein ! quand je retournerai à BKK, je compte sur toi pour une "piquûre de rappel"
"pendant un instant l'usage des yeux : la lecture du monde. italo Calvino "Paroles de voyageurs" si tu n'as pas étudié, voyage".

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Un voyage de mille lis a commencé par un pas. (Lao-Tseu ; 1 lis=ancienne mesure chinoise équivalente a 576m définie des la dynastie Qin, mais qui variait selon la région et l'époque, valeur actuelle 500m, le li est une mesure coréenne d'environ 3920m)
pour les pti curieux!!! le chien subliminaleeu
Je n'ai pas grand'chose à voir avec Stéphane Bern mais ...
Dans les années 80, à l'aéroport de Bruxelles (une fois) il m'est arrivé la même mésaventure avec une dame de la Police des frontières à qui je tendais ... mon passeport français !
Elle m'a baragouiné quelque chose, et devant mon air héberlué, s'est tourné vers son collègue et lui a dit en français "encore un qui ne comprends pas ...".
Je me souviens très bien lui avoir répondu tout-de-go que, si j'avais le temps d'apprendre une cinquième langue, ce ne serait sûrement pas le flamand que je choisirais !
Dans les années 80, à l'aéroport de Bruxelles (une fois) il m'est arrivé la même mésaventure avec une dame de la Police des frontières à qui je tendais ... mon passeport français !
Elle m'a baragouiné quelque chose, et devant mon air héberlué, s'est tourné vers son collègue et lui a dit en français "encore un qui ne comprends pas ...".
Je me souviens très bien lui avoir répondu tout-de-go que, si j'avais le temps d'apprendre une cinquième langue, ce ne serait sûrement pas le flamand que je choisirais !
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
😉t'apprendrais le miaulement et le ronronnement?????
a moins que tu le parles deja!!!!!😛😄😏
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Un voyage de mille lis a commencé par un pas. (Lao-Tseu ; 1 lis=ancienne mesure chinoise équivalente a 576m définie des la dynastie Qin, mais qui variait selon la région et l'époque, valeur actuelle 500m, le li est une mesure coréenne d'environ 3920m)
pour les pti curieux!!! le chien subliminaleeu
Hello Boum,
Et oui, les autorites flamandes tentent par tous les moyens de preserver leur "culture". Nous, Wallons, jusqu'a present, nous nous contentions d'en rire, mais ca devient tellement desagreable et stupide qu'on finit par ne plus oser se dire "Belge".
Je suis loin de tout ca maintenant, mais j'ai encore les cheveux qui se dressent lorsque je lis toutes ces turpitudes.
Bonne journee, Pat
Et oui, les autorites flamandes tentent par tous les moyens de preserver leur "culture". Nous, Wallons, jusqu'a present, nous nous contentions d'en rire, mais ca devient tellement desagreable et stupide qu'on finit par ne plus oser se dire "Belge".
Je suis loin de tout ca maintenant, mais j'ai encore les cheveux qui se dressent lorsque je lis toutes ces turpitudes.
Bonne journee, Pat
😉t'apprendrais le miaulement et le ronronnement?????
a moins que tu le parles deja!!!!!😛😄😏
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Le ronronnement, j'ai amélioré mes performances si fort que ma femme ne supporte plus (la nuit).
Pour le miaulement, si j'avais une petite mob ...
J'avoue que mes facultés d'apprentissage se sont beaucoup restreintes, comme le dit la chanson, j'ai (parfois) "la mémoire qui flanche".
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Le ronronnement, j'ai amélioré mes performances si fort que ma femme ne supporte plus (la nuit).
Pour le miaulement, si j'avais une petite mob ...
J'avoue que mes facultés d'apprentissage se sont beaucoup restreintes, comme le dit la chanson, j'ai (parfois) "la mémoire qui flanche".
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
disons que ce "phénomène" n'est pas récent : j'ai vécu trois ans à Mol en Belgique où il y avait alors l'usine de retraitement des déchets nucléaires Eurochimic, le personnel de cette usine était en grande partie des français, des italiens, des allemands, des néerlandais et bien nous ! les français ! nous n'étions pas très 😕😕 appréciés par la population du lieu ... ainsi une fois je me suis trouvée obligée de demander une info à un policier lequel m'a écouté, m'a regardé 😉 puis m'a tourné le dos ... refus de me répondre ... mais peut-être-être ne connaissait-il pas le français ? mais qd on revenait en France et bien en Wallonie des agissements semblables pour les flamands ... aujourd'hui la situation économique s'est inversée et donc les "plus riches" imposent "leur politique" ... ainsi va le monde !
ps. Pat j'ai écrit ceci avant de lire ton post ... donc ne te fâche pas !
ps. Pat j'ai écrit ceci avant de lire ton post ... donc ne te fâche pas !
"pendant un instant l'usage des yeux : la lecture du monde. italo Calvino "Paroles de voyageurs" si tu n'as pas étudié, voyage".
Cà fait fort longtemps que j'ai trouvé les belges-flamands exécrables (la plupart du temps) et les belges-wallons adorables (la plu... idem).
Je me suis dit, après avoir fait cette "découverte", que c'était sans doute pour rétablir un équilibre, une moyenne "normale" si on veut !
(je ne suis français qu'à moitié par les origines, alors me voir reprocher ce pour quoi je n'ai aucune responsabilité, c'est "un peu trop" pour moi ...)
Je me suis dit, après avoir fait cette "découverte", que c'était sans doute pour rétablir un équilibre, une moyenne "normale" si on veut !
(je ne suis français qu'à moitié par les origines, alors me voir reprocher ce pour quoi je n'ai aucune responsabilité, c'est "un peu trop" pour moi ...)
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
merci pour toutes ses infos, on m a dit que le temps ne serrait pas au rdv(nous arrivons a BKK le 18), et j avoue que la description de l ile est très interesante et prometeuse mais peut etre qu'avec un baby pour le coup c est un peu trop roots...
j ai lu quelque ligne sur Koh payam et koh lipe ...apparement c est tranquile (encore), beau et on y mange bien, tu es d accord avec ça?, laquelle a ta preference?
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Depuis des décennies, contrairement aux Belges francophones de Bruxelles et de Wallonie, la population flamande ne regarde guère les chaînes françaises ....
Bonjour Boumbastic,
Les flamands ne risquent pas de les regarder les chaines françaises vu le peu d'émissions interessantes qui sont proposées . Quand il y a quelque chose d'interessant c'est à des heures tardives, celà ne s'adresse pas au travailleur matinal. Priorité est donnée principalement aux "navets " abrutissants de la culture americaine. Sinon des faux-debats ou ceux qui auraient des choses interessantes à dire se font couper la parole, se font contredire . La Loi de l'audimat !!! engueulades = taux d'audience en Hausse. Autour de moi je n'entends que critiques sur les programmes TV, les gens redecouvrent les plaisirs de la lecture, les jeunes preferent surfer sur le Net.
Bon, celà n'empeche pas que certains flamands deviennent cons. Brel se retourne dans sa tombe ! il faut nommer Eddy Merckx à la tete du pays !
cdlt Jean
Bonjour Boumbastic,
Les flamands ne risquent pas de les regarder les chaines françaises vu le peu d'émissions interessantes qui sont proposées . Quand il y a quelque chose d'interessant c'est à des heures tardives, celà ne s'adresse pas au travailleur matinal. Priorité est donnée principalement aux "navets " abrutissants de la culture americaine. Sinon des faux-debats ou ceux qui auraient des choses interessantes à dire se font couper la parole, se font contredire . La Loi de l'audimat !!! engueulades = taux d'audience en Hausse. Autour de moi je n'entends que critiques sur les programmes TV, les gens redecouvrent les plaisirs de la lecture, les jeunes preferent surfer sur le Net.
Bon, celà n'empeche pas que certains flamands deviennent cons. Brel se retourne dans sa tombe ! il faut nommer Eddy Merckx à la tete du pays !
cdlt Jean
Salut Jean, je ne crois pas que ce soit une exception, a quelques exceptions de qualité (émissions souvent mentionnées sur VF 😉), les programmes ne sont pas beaucoup meilleurs sur les chaines francaises sous le dictat de la téléréalité (ca coûte pas cher et ca peut rapporter gros) 🙁🤪😕🏴☠️ Une petite question toutefois: les émissions flamandes sont-elles meilleures? 😇
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
Bon, celà n'empeche pas que certains flamands deviennent cons.
Il y en a d'autres aussi qui s'habillent en rose et s'envolent alors vers les pays chauds ...
Il y en a d'autres aussi qui s'habillent en rose et s'envolent alors vers les pays chauds ...
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
En septembre avec un bébé, la traversée vers Lipe n'est pas de tout repos, et la plupart des bungalows seront fermés là bas...
"Le touriste apparait comme le principal agent de diffusion du mépris anti touristique. Plus le touriste se voit en miroir de l'autre, plus il le déteste".
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
JEAN DIDIER URBAIN "L'idiot du voyage"
J'ai tout d'abord cru que tu répondais a MengWan avant de comprendre que tu étais sérieux.....dommage ta réponse collait bien pourtant 😉
PS. Sinon tu as tout a fait raison bien sur, réouverture des liaisons régulières mi-novembre je crois?
PS. Sinon tu as tout a fait raison bien sur, réouverture des liaisons régulières mi-novembre je crois?
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
J'ai tout d'abord cru que tu répondais a MengWan avant de comprendre que tu étais sérieux.....dommage ta réponse collait bien pourtant 😉
Pourquoi ?
Il n'a pas parlé de manger des petites crevettes salées ... 😊
Pourquoi ?
Il n'a pas parlé de manger des petites crevettes salées ... 😊
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
J'avais fait un petit racourci flamand rose=cigogne=bébé 😊 je crois bien avoir été le seul a me comprendre en effet, désolé 😕
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
J'avais fait un petit racourci flamand rose=cigogne=bébé 😊 je crois bien avoir été le seul a me comprendre en effet, désolé 😕
Pas de quoi, mais çà ouvre une question !
Dans "les pays du Nord", les cigognes apportent les bébés, quid de la Thaïlande ?
Ne me dites pas que ce sont des boeings avec le bout des ailes noir !
Pas de quoi, mais çà ouvre une question !
Dans "les pays du Nord", les cigognes apportent les bébés, quid de la Thaïlande ?
Ne me dites pas que ce sont des boeings avec le bout des ailes noir !
Si vous avez compris tout ce que je viens de vous dire, c'est que j'ai dû faire une erreur quelque part. - Alan Greenspan
Science sans conscience n'est que ruine de l'âme - Rabelais
Ne me dites pas que ce sont des boeings avec le bout des ailes noir !
Non mais il y a Nok Air avec un bec jaune 😉
Khun maa jak nai krap?
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
"être loin d'ailleurs, c'est être ici" (P. Geluk)
😉Salut,
en réalité c'est une photo du Luang Prabang, khun Thuan, mais en tout cas, elle colle bien au post et a ta légende🙂
(c'est pour ça que je l'avais posté tel qu'elle!!!!) comme quoi la culture et le modernisme peuvent cohabité!!! meme si sur les photos c'est moins jolie LOL!!! Puis si y en a qu'aime pas, ils peuvent toujours apprendre a utilisé photoshoop et enlever les fils et l'antenne!!!😛😄😏
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(c'est pour ça que je l'avais posté tel qu'elle!!!!) comme quoi la culture et le modernisme peuvent cohabité!!! meme si sur les photos c'est moins jolie LOL!!! Puis si y en a qu'aime pas, ils peuvent toujours apprendre a utilisé photoshoop et enlever les fils et l'antenne!!!😛😄😏
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Un voyage de mille lis a commencé par un pas. (Lao-Tseu ; 1 lis=ancienne mesure chinoise équivalente a 576m définie des la dynastie Qin, mais qui variait selon la région et l'époque, valeur actuelle 500m, le li est une mesure coréenne d'environ 3920m)
pour les pti curieux!!! le chien subliminaleeu
😉je t'en posterais une autre dans le meme style avec en plus le shopping!!! mais faut que tu sois patient (vers le 8 ou 9 septembre)
Un voyage de mille lis a commencé par un pas. (Lao-Tseu ; 1 lis=ancienne mesure chinoise équivalente a 576m définie des la dynastie Qin, mais qui variait selon la région et l'époque, valeur actuelle 500m, le li est une mesure coréenne d'environ 3920m)
pour les pti curieux!!! le chien subliminaleeu
Puis si y en a qu'aime pas, ils peuvent toujours apprendre a utilisé photoshooputilisé photoshoop et enlever les fils et l'antenne!!!


oui mais sa deviens une photo banal sans intérêt, c'est l'ordre chronologique par importance symbolique qui est très bonne, c'est le genre de photos que on enseigne dans le photo journalismes'



oui mais sa deviens une photo banal sans intérêt, c'est l'ordre chronologique par importance symbolique qui est très bonne, c'est le genre de photos que on enseigne dans le photo journalismes'
« Le voyage apprend la tolérance. »
Benjamin Disraeli
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oui mais sa deviens une photo banal sans intérêt
C'est pour ça que je ne retouche jamais mes photos a part celle de graff ou de toiles que je me contente seulement de recadrer
c'est le genre de photos que on enseigne dans le photo journalismes'
Merci khun Thuan,
peut etre que je vais me lancer dans une nouvelle carriere!!! LOL
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C'est pour ça que je ne retouche jamais mes photos a part celle de graff ou de toiles que je me contente seulement de recadrer
c'est le genre de photos que on enseigne dans le photo journalismes'
Merci khun Thuan,
peut etre que je vais me lancer dans une nouvelle carriere!!! LOL
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Un voyage de mille lis a commencé par un pas. (Lao-Tseu ; 1 lis=ancienne mesure chinoise équivalente a 576m définie des la dynastie Qin, mais qui variait selon la région et l'époque, valeur actuelle 500m, le li est une mesure coréenne d'environ 3920m)
pour les pti curieux!!! le chien subliminaleeu
🙂 MDR, il n'y a que les singes qui manquent sur la photo, ....eux n'ont pas résisté!😏😏😏
Bien sur, LOK RRR culture et modernisme coexistent en permanence ! Comment pourrait il en etre autrement?...Juste: le modernisme (devant de la scene) prends de + en + le pas sur la culture "autochtone" (toile de fond)...c'est une question de proportion ...et thuan illustre bien celà :D'abord la com et puis en dernier lieu la spiritualité...Une manière de voir aussi le déplacement du champ des POUVOIRS...
Exemple parfait du changement des valeurs...d'ou un ti brin de nostalgie (sans pour autant etre contre le développement (lequel?) ou le droit au voyage pour tous)...
Cordialement
Bien sur, LOK RRR culture et modernisme coexistent en permanence ! Comment pourrait il en etre autrement?...Juste: le modernisme (devant de la scene) prends de + en + le pas sur la culture "autochtone" (toile de fond)...c'est une question de proportion ...et thuan illustre bien celà :D'abord la com et puis en dernier lieu la spiritualité...Une manière de voir aussi le déplacement du champ des POUVOIRS...
Exemple parfait du changement des valeurs...d'ou un ti brin de nostalgie (sans pour autant etre contre le développement (lequel?) ou le droit au voyage pour tous)...
Cordialement
Roger
😉Salut Roger,
les bonzes on un portable et peuvent donner leur bénédiction par téléphone now, c'est bien pour les gens qui ne peuvent pas se déplacer au temple!!!😛😄😏 le lien n'est donc pas totalement rompu!!!🙂
(sans pour autant etre contre le développement (lequel?)
on en revient au probleme de ce qu'en font les gens (du modernisme)
tel le nucléaire qui permet a des millions de personnes d'etre éclairées, pendant qu'une poignée d'inconscients s'en servent a s'intimider les uns les autres!!!!😕
vaste sujet qui n'a s'en doute meme pas ça place ici!!!!!
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les bonzes on un portable et peuvent donner leur bénédiction par téléphone now, c'est bien pour les gens qui ne peuvent pas se déplacer au temple!!!😛😄😏 le lien n'est donc pas totalement rompu!!!🙂
(sans pour autant etre contre le développement (lequel?)
on en revient au probleme de ce qu'en font les gens (du modernisme)
tel le nucléaire qui permet a des millions de personnes d'etre éclairées, pendant qu'une poignée d'inconscients s'en servent a s'intimider les uns les autres!!!!😕
vaste sujet qui n'a s'en doute meme pas ça place ici!!!!!
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Un voyage de mille lis a commencé par un pas. (Lao-Tseu ; 1 lis=ancienne mesure chinoise équivalente a 576m définie des la dynastie Qin, mais qui variait selon la région et l'époque, valeur actuelle 500m, le li est une mesure coréenne d'environ 3920m)
pour les pti curieux!!! le chien subliminaleeu
🙂les bonzes on un portable et peuvent donner leur bénédiction par téléphone now
j'en connais meme qui téléchargent les dernières des hits...Certains ont meme du porno ..Surprenant mon cher watson !!!
Le developpement :celui qui ne transforme pas la pauvreté en misère et qui ne sert pas qu'au profit de trés rares...(le monde se paupérise derrière l'apparence d'un développement qui ne profite qu'aux nantis des pays riches)!
Je sais que sur le fond on est d'accord, donc OK ne nous prenons pas le choux sur des mots !
A la prochaine rigolade, RRR !😉
j'en connais meme qui téléchargent les dernières des hits...Certains ont meme du porno ..Surprenant mon cher watson !!!
Le developpement :celui qui ne transforme pas la pauvreté en misère et qui ne sert pas qu'au profit de trés rares...(le monde se paupérise derrière l'apparence d'un développement qui ne profite qu'aux nantis des pays riches)!
Je sais que sur le fond on est d'accord, donc OK ne nous prenons pas le choux sur des mots !
A la prochaine rigolade, RRR !😉
Roger
😉ok Sherlok!!!
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Un voyage de mille lis a commencé par un pas. (Lao-Tseu ; 1 lis=ancienne mesure chinoise équivalente a 576m définie des la dynastie Qin, mais qui variait selon la région et l'époque, valeur actuelle 500m, le li est une mesure coréenne d'environ 3920m)
pour les pti curieux!!! le chien subliminaleeu
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After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
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Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
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Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
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Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
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Accommodations in homestays or hotels. Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?) Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?) Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
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After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
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Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027: - Phnom Penh - Kampong Cham - Kratie - Siem Reap - Battambang - Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Have a great Sunday
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
Hello everyone,
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.

