Converting a heavy-duty bus/coach/truck into a motorhome
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GX GX47 Regular ·
I just left the DRIRE, my project's not approved yet—or I should say it just got rejected🙁. Reason: an incorrect distance of 40cm on a storage compartment relative to the front axle, 10 seating positions present that could potentially be used while driving!? Actually, you could go up to 14 if you count the bench bed???. And especially missing seatbelts on the seats facing the road (the vehicle is from 1986, approved in 1985 as a bus). The engineer in charge of the inspection is looking into it... and I'm not going on vacation anymore😕
GX47

ex transformation, homologation et utilisation d'un car en CC 9places route en utilisation pro. Plus un CC 6pl VL, plus un fourgon en cabine approfondie 6 pl VL. si je peu aider...
DY Dyane25 ·
Hey, if you've read my post from yesterday with my Mr. Dupont story, I had a feeling that sooner or later someone would run into this problem. Once again we can see that laws are also designed to discourage people who mostly put their whole heart into these kinds of projects,

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DY Dyane25 ·
Okay! So while taking a shower and thinking about all these obstacles the regulations keep throwing at us, there must be solutions:

1) I remember that on some of the buses I used to take to school, the seatbelts were anchored to the seats rather than to the bus frame itself. By asking permission from the manufacturer or coachbuilder, you could find seats like that in a bus scrapyard and replace them (though you'd still have the problem of the mounting points on the floor for the seats).

2) It's not possible to install anchor points on the frame because you'd need to do a crash test or a pull-test, and in my opinion only the manufacturers do that.

3) For those who don't want too much hassle with this kind of problem, the best option is to forget about old decommissioned buses without seatbelts and without a driver's door (some actually got approved without a driver's door... anyway...) and plan for a bigger budget (the investment will be more worthwhile in the long run).

DON'T GET DISCOURAGED, WE'LL GET THERE!
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PI Pictben ·
Hi everyone,

I spend loads of time here reading all the great advice from everyone, and especially from Patrick and Sputnik. Thanks to you all.

But I have a small question since I'm about to jump into this adventure soon.

How do you find nice little spots without getting kicked out when you park for a bit on the edge of a big city, or even a capital?????

If anyone has experience with that.

I'm not sure if I like supermarket parking lots or if I'm going to have trouble getting accepted on Traveler sites?

Anyway, I'm not sure what?
Souris à la vie, la vie te sourira.
DY Dyane25 ·
Hey, for travelers there's no problem because most of them are just as civilized as we are—it's just people's prejudices that make everyone see a difference.....( for me it's a form of racism). I have cousins who live year-round in caravans and they've never had problems. They have their own little piece of land, live there year-round, and move whenever they want. It's the same for other communities (Roma, travelers......). You just need to show that you're not coming to cause trouble, and other than that you won't have any problems.

There are bad apples in every community, and anyway if there's a place where you don't feel totally safe, nothing stops you from moving on to another town further away (because according to new laws, every town has to have a designated parking area with water for travelers). If there's a spot not too far from you, you can go check it out and ask them some questions.

You explain to them that you want to set up a vehicle and would like to know if you need permits from the town hall to park on spots like that. It's pretty straightforward but it gets the conversation going—why not make some friends? Either way, it's a personal enrichment.....

I hope I've convinced you and everyone else who was wondering about this.

We travel not just for ourselves but also to meet other people (that's what I think).

See you later and safe travels
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PI Pictben ·
Thanks for your encouragement and for the icebreaker idea 😛 I'm with you on nomadic camping grounds. Rest assured, no prejudice, fear, or resentment toward Romani, Travellers, or other communities. It was just about whether I'd be accepted (okay, I admit I have some preconceived ideas about that, but that's exactly why I'm asking!!!)

Thanks anyway.

Catch you later
Souris à la vie, la vie te sourira.
DY Dyane25 ·
😎 no worries, that's kind of my advisor side showing through (check my profile and you'll understand) — even though advisers don't pay the bills, I'll try to be good but probably not perfect lol!!! for a change of environment, even if you've got a customized rig you'll see people you don't know asking you questions. Happened to me with my old Dyane and 2CV (back when it actually ran) and it can definitely spark some real passions.............

being really open to people doesn't always pay off but it definitely enriches us!!!!!!!!!

bye, safe travels
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DY Dyane25 ·
Hey GX47, do you have any more info about your seatbelt situation? You were talking about the ones at the front, right? Not the ones in the living area? As for the rest, we're still waiting for the photos, thanks!
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GX GX47 Regular ·
No, interior seating for road-facing benches—I don't understand. The engineer from DRIRE is supposedly aware of the pre-2000 motorhome regulations (actually, she told me it's 1995, not 2000; mine's from 1985). She's supposed to call me back tomorrow morning, but I'd be surprised if I get an answer right away🤪. There's also the issue with the number of seats. And I'm worried about being limited on the road by the number of sleeping places (6)🏴‍☠️ Anyway, anyway, if I have any news, I'll let you know.
GX47

ex transformation, homologation et utilisation d'un car en CC 9places route en utilisation pro. Plus un CC 6pl VL, plus un fourgon en cabine approfondie 6 pl VL. si je peu aider...
SP Sputnick Regular ·
Parking is definitely a recurring headache. Personally, I park on the outskirts of big cities when I'm staying long-term. I've only had issues recently—threat of towing. I'm pretty sure there's a law that prevents towing if you actually live in it—worth checking (maybe contact a housing rights group). Go for towns with communist mayors! ;) Things go easier there. For a night, no problem—I've parked right in central Paris on loading zones and never got fined in my bus, though cars are different... By the way, I had a theft attempt in my bus yesterday and actually caught the guy red-handed trying to walk off with my stuff. There was a chase and all that... got my gear back... crazy stuff... the guy was homeless though, so I let it go... It's rare though—since '98 I've never been robbed in the Paris area, just had some Romanian kids squat in another bus where I'd left some mattresses! (My fault—it wasn't fitted out, just had windows that open on the sides.) When I park long-term, I pull out all the equipment (fridge, cooktop, converter, etc.) because the bus stays on the street...

Anyway, if anyone knows a good guarded parking spot in the Paris region, I'm interested.
DY Dyane25 ·
Hi everyone, Regarding a bus fuel tank, what's the capacity in liters and how many km can you expect to drive on normal fuel consumption? I'm asking because on eBay there's someone selling the so-called 1998 France team coach (120,000 euros, way out of my budget of course...!) and I noticed the fuel tank holds 450 liters.

THANKS FOR YOUR REPLIES, SEE YOU SOON!
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DY Dyane25 ·
Hi, I read a post from October 2005 by sputnick He said he gets 22-24 L/100 km With 450 L that's around 1800 km if I'm doing the math right. But with diesel prices, we're practically paying a month's rent for a full tank I was hoping to save some money, but that didn't work out If anyone has some tips, don't hesitate
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DY Dyane25 ·
I thought about the 19T, but I'm not sure if I can drive on weekends since I work during the week. You're lucky—they just said you were a troublemaker, but they told me I should be locked away with my wild ideas, and that later I'd end up selling baskets by the roadside.
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GX GX47 Regular ·
Yeah, except that seriously messes up the oil, McDonald's has its own recycling setup, you gotta filter to 5 microns if I remember right, and it's better not to get caught. Here's the penalty breakdown: if you're at 50% you're in the biodiesel category so you pay a hefty fine PLUS the fuel tax on the ENTIRE mileage of the vehicle. if you're at 100% well that's a tax issue if you've got a good lawyer since this fuel isn't approved in France so technically doesn't exist but you still pay a fine for running an unlicensed product not authorized by the manufacturer (says Diesel on the terms & conditions) even though the first diesel engines ran on oil (flax oil I think) Here, just to keep this thread from getting locked for content meant to incite...etc...etc... that said it doesn't pollute, and on private land it's all good😛 Anyway I didn't say anything...I'm out!😇
GX47

ex transformation, homologation et utilisation d'un car en CC 9places route en utilisation pro. Plus un CC 6pl VL, plus un fourgon en cabine approfondie 6 pl VL. si je peu aider...
SP Sputnick Regular ·
hey everyone... Yeah, 22-24L/100km is my consumption in steady, relaxed driving :) (a good 90 km/h) sure, a bus (coach) drinks fuel! but no more than a heavy truck. On an S45, the tank holds between 150L and ~200L depending on the model. Fuel consumption depends on driving style and road type... If you're flooring it in the mountains, fuel consumption goes up. I worked as a driver seasonally in the mountains on a recent coach, and it showed me peak consumption of 180L/100km!!! It was an Ares loaded with electronics (unreliable in mountains at -20°C)

The near-term future solution is to run on rapeseed oil (economy, ecology) or other alternatives, see: http://www.roulemafleur.free.fr/ It's entirely possible to run on vegetable oil without modifying anything. With the caveat that in winter, oil tends to paraffin (solidify)—unless you have good-quality oil or rig up a fuel heater...

Long-term, I hope that alternative solutions (electricity, hydrogen, etc.) develop quickly.
CH Christian06 Veteran ·
Try rolling an avocado if you know any oils to cover yourself 😛

No, I'm joking, but avocado oil should also work, it's clearer (from a notary 😉)
CHRISTIAN

"Ne pas rire, ce n'est pas sérieux"
SP Sputnick Regular ·
I have the same problem, but there's a solution. You can run on fryer oil—recycle oil from McDonald's or other big oil users, like Flunch and others. You can run on 100% vegetable oil. You just need to add a pump, a filter, and something to heat it up. Otherwise 50/50 mix, no modifications needed, especially if you have a Bosch pump. l'alchimiste

Sorry, I hadn't seen you were already talking about oil. I missed the boat on that one (LOL).

As for filtering, a pool pump with filter costs almost nothing, and apparently it works really well, plus it's electric

Do you have more details on that? Do you do it?

I thought about it with the 19-ton truck, but I'm not sure I can drive on weekends since I work during the week. As for you, you're lucky—they just told you you're crazy. Me, they told me I should be locked up with my crazy ideas and that later I'd be wandering around selling baskets on the roadside.

No problem for a private individual. If you're not operating it commercially, normally no problem. Call the prefecture to be sure.

No, just joking, but it should work with avocado oil too, that's clearer.

If you have a plan, share it! I don't know about avocado oil...
GX GX47 Regular ·
All set! 😉 DRIRE approval came through for me—and on my wedding anniversary, no less! I had to add some fluorescent/retro-reflective plates (April 2006 standards, plus 80/100/110), stick an "unusable seating in traffic" label on my custom bed bench, remove a seat with load recalculation and redistribution, and ditch the seatbelts due to the age of my chassis (1985) and vehicle (1986).

Only catch: I'm in transition with my paperwork, so I've also got to wait for my new Carte Grise (registration) to legally drive it. DRIRE didn't hand me any certificate actually proving anything—I've just got my file in process. I don't have my purple card anymore, just the old TCP registration, so I'm stuck right now. 🤪 A TCP vehicle can't legally drive without that purple card (though I did manage to get back like that anyway). I could try driving with a copy of my full DRIRE file and take my chances—but nothing proves it's even been officially filed!? Anyway, the main thing is getting that YES. Feels amazing. 🙂 And what a relief. That's all, folks. Safe travels everyone! GX47
GX47

ex transformation, homologation et utilisation d'un car en CC 9places route en utilisation pro. Plus un CC 6pl VL, plus un fourgon en cabine approfondie 6 pl VL. si je peu aider...
SP Sputnick Regular ·
Well done, congrats! You win! Bingo! Big up!

To drive it, that's definitely at your own risk. That said, the purple permit—not many cops know about it! (or ask for it) Your call. Watch out for sARKO 'n' co!
SP Sputnick Regular ·
bravo, congratulations! you win! bingo! big up!

For driving, it's definitely at your own risk and peril. At the same time, the purple card, there aren't many cops who know about it! (or who ask for it) It's up to you. Just watch out for Sarko and co! aka Little Nicolas...
DY Dyane25 ·
Wow! Now that's good news, that's good news!!!!!!!! Congratulations! In the end it was less complicated than I thought. Just hang tight for the registration paperwork and then you're all set for the roads of France and Europe without going too fast (no speeding lol...) HAPPY TRAILS TO EVERYONE
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JC Jcteam ·
Congrats on your DRIRE process - that really encourages me! I'd love to ask you a few questions. I have a 1988 Volvo C10M that I want to reclassify as a 9-seater and convert the rear into a workshop. The Montauban DRIRE is asking me first for the manufacturer's authorization, but I'm not modifying anything on the bodywork - they also want the driver's side door, which is already there! Did you need the manufacturer's authorization? I'm planning 2 sleeping areas - what are the potential issues? Honestly, I have tons of questions. Thanks for reading, and I'd really appreciate any tips you could share. Talk soon, Jean-Louis
GX GX47 Regular ·
Hi, in response to jcteam and everyone else asking the same question

Yes, manufacturer authorization is mandatory—there's no way around it. The vehicle is approved for one specific exterior AND interior configuration. (Strictly speaking: you remove a seat → you need manufacturer authorization)

I have a Heuliez and no issues there. The manager (M. Genest) is really nice and very competent, but of course he doesn't authorize everything. For me, he refused seat belts because the vehicle isn't equipped with anchor points. And he advised me to keep the original seats with their original fasteners (and DRIRE requires this! otherwise—you need to go back to the manufacturer and get road-approved seats with special fasteners and belts). Moreover, Heuliez is well-regarded by DRIRE as a serious company with competent staff. I won't name the brands DRIRE advised against on this post.

Before buying, I checked with the manufacturers and DRIRE—DO IT, they give good advice. DON'T BUY a vehicle from abroad if that identical model isn't approved in France! It's cheaper but you're fighting a losing battle from the start—you'll first have to get it officially registered! In the meantime, I'm stuck waiting for my official reception report to be signed (once the DRIRE chief gets back from vacation), so no 'coach-to-van' road trip for me. We'll do a little trip afterward anyway...

BUT as the alchemist said, read all 12 pages carefully—it's long but everything's there. AND CONTACT your DRIRE—things vary by department. AND DON'T GET RIGID with them if, like with me, they require seat belts in a 1986 coach. Because if they make a mistake, they'll correct it themselves sooner or later depending on whether you're friendly, and they'll look for something else instead—that's just how it works.

For jcteam: I don't know the Volvo. If workshop conversion with 9+ seats → extended cabin → mandatory new seat belts + load calculation. If sleeping area (unless removable) → motorhome over 20m² → ventilation, emergency exits, 2 living-area doors on different sides or large window... See AFNOR guide PLUS load distribution calculation. One piece of advice: ask your DRIRE for both documents (a week apart or from two different offices, then compare—plus call for advice). If you do what they ask, there's no problem. Unless the workshop is in rearward overhang—then re-manufacturer authorization.

Good luck GX47
GX47

ex transformation, homologation et utilisation d'un car en CC 9places route en utilisation pro. Plus un CC 6pl VL, plus un fourgon en cabine approfondie 6 pl VL. si je peu aider...
YV Yvesyolande ·
Hi, I'm on my 2nd converted bus. The first was a Renault S53, very easy to convert. And the second a VanHool 815T, a bit trickier but practical. I had no problems with the inspections (gas, electric, bodywork, and the DRIRE). You can visit the vehicles on the site: http://camping-car-bus.monsite.wanadoo.fr Cheers.
Yves et Yolande
GX GX47 Regular ·
CONGRATULATIONS, That's a really, really beautiful accomplishment.😉😊 Hats off to you GX47
GX47

ex transformation, homologation et utilisation d'un car en CC 9places route en utilisation pro. Plus un CC 6pl VL, plus un fourgon en cabine approfondie 6 pl VL. si je peu aider...
DY Dyane25 ·
Hey, your truck is awesome! If you could give us a bit more detail about the time you've spent in it and the overall cost of the conversion, that would be really helpful—that must have cost serious money... How long can you go without refilling water? Do you have solar panels? Can you live in it full-time? How did you handle all the window work—which bodyshop did you use? Is the furniture original campervan stuff?

To be honest, it's really cool.

I want one too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

See you soon... Safe travels! And if anyone passes by my place, we can grab a drink!
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YV Yvesyolande ·
Hi dyane25, We took a year to transform and convert it. The total cost, including buying the vehicle, is around 200,000 francs. Living as 4 people, with water reserves, we can go a week. I don't have solar panels. We decided it wasn't worth installing them because they're expensive, don't charge in cloudy weather, and don't produce enough in winter—which is when we need them most. That's why I installed a generator on our second vehicle. Yes, we can live in the vehicle for several months without any problem. The windows were replaced with 1 cm thick aluminum sheets. The cabinet fronts in the kitchen and the bedroom with the loft bed were custom-made by a carpenter. The rest was done by myself.
Yves et Yolande
DY Dyane25 ·
Hi, thanks for your reply! 200,000 francs—sure, not everyone can afford it, but given the results, it's definitely worth it. I figured the furniture must be custom-made for the solar panels. I pretty much share your opinion, but I think the generator is only worthwhile if you're heading out for a few days—otherwise it's just a money pit.

Was it you who installed the aluminum sheets in place of the windows, or did a body shop do it?

I'm guessing your 2nd vehicle is also set up to haul equipment and not just a generator—can you give us more details?

Sorry, I'm just curious, but it's also to help inform the others and give them some ideas. Catch you later, and safe travels!
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LU Lulufred ·
Hi. I'm planning to convert a Vanhool bus from 1976 myself—would it be possible for you to send me photos to: lulu.4.lulu@caramail.com? Thanks in advance
DY Dyane25 ·
Hi, why not post the photos on the forum? Everyone would be interested in that........ see you soon
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JL Jloo ·
I've got another problem: I'm looking for Renault's fax number (the vehicle certifications and regulations service) to request the manufacturer's authorization to convert the S53 into a motorhome. But at RVI they're telling me that department no longer exists, and they keep transferring me from one number to another without me being able to get this damn fax number; Can someone help me???? Thanks 0620208626 gilles.t@free.fr
JL Jloo ·
I just read your post and I see you know someone at RVI. I'm looking for their fax number to request manufacturer authorization to reclassify my S53 as a motorhome. But RVI tells me that the coach regulation and homologation department no longer exists (they keep transferring me from number to number and nobody's helping me)!!! Do you know how I can get this damn authorization (or a phone number where someone can actually help me) so my individual approval application is complete??? Thanks in advance if you can help me!!
JL Jloo ·
hi, you're offering help and I really need it, so can you tell me a couple things: I'm trying to convert an S53 into a campervan but I'm running into a lot of problems: weight distribution issues, driver-side door doesn't exist, etc., so I thought to myself: since in 15 days I need my vehicle for work, I could, for now, just set it up as a truck; but what do I need to do for that? where do I start? (since minimal setup is already in place - bed, tables, gas and sink) can I go to the registry and tell them "it's no longer a camper but just a truck" and could I then drive it with my class C license???? you see, so many questions and I don't know where to start... thanks for any answers by the way is there a website that explains what steps to take to convert a camper into a truck (besides this one of course!!!?)? gilles toulouse 0620208626 gilles.t@free.fr
KM Kmsprodution Regular ·
Hi,

I'm happy to have found this site—it'll help me get information about this project that's been obsessing me for over three years now.

I've got this wild, crazy project: putting a recording studio along with a little living space in a huge semi-truck.

I have no idea what kind of information or state permits/authorizations I'll need to get all this on the road.

I'm an unconventional truck driver who also has a sound engineering degree.

I live in the Île-de-France region and I'm hoping to finish my rig in about a year.

Thanks for any information you can share on this topic—good luck to everyone doing conversions like this!
Ce n'est pas un pays qui fait de toi ce que tu es, mais c'est toi qui fait du pays ce qu'il est.
DY Dyane25 ·
Hey, if you're thinking about outfitting a rig, start by reading through everything from the beginning—there are some people sharing awesome tips, and you'll find all the info you need to set up a home on wheels a++++++
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JI Jiceel ·
Hey, in my opinion it's a really bad idea to install gear in that type of vehicle. Fuel consumption is huge; parts are super expensive. The equipment's too old to even consider. There's plenty of other gear at very reasonable prices – no need to go down that route. But hey, it's your call. Well, as soon as I have time I'll post a photo folder on the forum. I'm currently installing a setup in southern Morocco though, so it'll be a few days or weeks before I get around to it. Probably more like September. Best, jean claude
jiceel
KM Kmsprodution Regular ·
I'm back on this forum to better present my project.

It's not a project like the ones you do on this site.

I've actually read through all the pages of the site, as someone recommended I do.

I found a lot of useful information that will definitely help me with my project.

This big project is the one you'll find shown in the photo below.

The things that differ from a regular bus are as follows: With a container I get perfectly flat surfaces everywhere, even if I choose a very low profile to get upper levels.

With such a loading surface, I can customize the layout however I want.

On a bus, like I was originally advised, you'd have to do more modifications.

What I don't know:

Can a semi-trailer be approved by the DRIRE as a non-specific vehicle or as a caravan, etc.?

On a semi-trailer, do you have the right to make modifications like this, and in what cases is it prohibited?

How does the DRIRE approval process work?

Should I submit a modification request to the manufacturer before doing my customization?

Is the approval dependent on specific modifications or just on submitting paperwork (for the semi-trailer)?

I've planned a total of three doors placed on either side of the semi-trailer—what does the DRIRE say about this?

Other things

As for the weight rating, I don't have any issues.

I have a total of 25 tons available, so I'm good there.

I've planned for 2 tanks of 250 liters each, for a total of 500 liters of water. Two tanks of 150 liters each, for a total of 300 liters of greywater. One tank of 190 liters of diesel for the generator, which will be placed under the semi-trailer in a compartment with sound and thermal insulation.

Thank you to anyone who can share information with me, and best of luck to you all.
Ce n'est pas un pays qui fait de toi ce que tu es, mais c'est toi qui fait du pays ce qu'il est.
DY Dyane25 ·
Hey, actually I want to do the same thing but not arranged the same way, because the doors you put in your diagram are already poorly positioned—they should be on the right side, like motorhomes and caravans, I think. Plus you also need to respect the opening direction. Otherwise, for the rest of the modifications you can do everything (of course with approval from the manufacturer for the tractor if you modify it and from the body shop for the trailer). For the technical inspection, it's definitely by appointment—they're the ones who schedule it (that's how it is where I am). See you later! ++++++++
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PA Patrick26 Veteran ·
Go to your nearest local authority, and ask them for an explanatory document on caravan approval.

Yes, no motor! So whatever the GVWR, it's a caravan...

And your project is doable — we've set up an old Intermarché semi with a double deck for someone who competes in jet ski using it as both a caravan and workshop. He has caravan certification (obtained without any hassle) and can therefore drive even on Sundays (and without a disc!) because the vehicle is no longer classified for freight transport and serves a private individual.

Good luck!

PATRICK26
KM Kmsprodution Regular ·
Hello,

Thank you (PATRICK26) for your information. I've already found the trailer. So I'll schedule an appointment with the DRIRE to get the file as you indicated.

I'm going back to PTAC (gross vehicle weight rating) for semi-trailers and other trailers. And PTRA (authorized maximum rolling weight) when you have an engine.

Besides that, I'll share my photos on the site as the construction progresses.

Thank you all.

I'm heading to the Caribbean to see my family and also to visit a friend who has an English double-decker bus that he's converted into a motorhome.
Ce n'est pas un pays qui fait de toi ce que tu es, mais c'est toi qui fait du pays ce qu'il est.
KM Kmsprodution Regular ·
Hi,

I'm back to share some great resources for those looking for plans and ideas to set up their mobile living space.

http://www.abimo.be/interieur_clou.htm

http://fourgonsamenages.free.fr/

http://www.teamnegoce.com/

http://www.camploup.com/

The last one is a bit odd, but it gives some good ideas.

You'll see, it's pretty good.
Ce n'est pas un pays qui fait de toi ce que tu es, mais c'est toi qui fait du pays ce qu'il est.
PA Patrol59 ·
hello

I'd like to acquire (if I sell my Patrol 😎) a TRM 4000 truck to convert it into a motorhome. 😉 I'd love to hear from people who own one, to learn about its performance: 😏 its "comfort", fuel consumption, insurance rates, etc...... All opinions will be welcome, thanks in advance. Christian
RA Raflou Regular ·
Hi everyone, I'm selling my S53 coach from 1982, 600,000 km, inspection valid April 2005, clean VASP registration caravan. Price: make an offer For interested people and for more information: tel 0609624307 visible in Vendée 85
BE Benhurd ·
hey everyone

just stopping by to give you an update on my bus

so the plumber finally came after waiting 2 months!!!!!!

now that I have the gas, all that's left is a few regulatory tweaks to pass inspection!!

here are some photos to pass the time obviously it's not finished but it's starting to look like something

I've had the electrical work done for a while already next week I'm installing the water, finishing the kitchen! I'll call Véritas and if everything checks out, my file will be complete for inspection

cheers
FR François57 Regular ·
Well, on my end I indeed have the same data: 300 to 450 L, but the coach's fuel consumption is indeed 20 to 25 L/100. Don't forget that transport companies will give you fuel consumption figures with the bus loaded with passengers (80kg x 50 people) at minimum, which adds an extra 4 tonnes that isn't negligible.

I'm going to experiment with rapeseed oil or used cooking oil that I've recovered myself, first without any modifications on my old ZX, and then I'll make whatever adjustments are needed.

I'm going off-topic with this post, so I'm inviting anyone interested to check out http://www.biolea.net, a non-profit site that explains the procedures really well.

I'm torn between buying an S45 or an S53—who can advise me? Knowing that I want a pneumatic parking brake and not the big lever you have to pump (there's a risk of malfunction if it stays engaged too long, and I'm not keen on the famous pshiit-pshiit sound). Does the S45 have it? A second point: I want emergency exits with projecting windows (windows that open outward using small buttons you can break off from the outside to prevent accidental openings). I know that's always the case on the S45, but on the S53 there are window-breaking hammers on most models or worse: the notorious spring "breaks when you touch it" or the pane shatters at the slightest touch on the window-breaking handle.

If you have any tips for finding S45s, please let me know—I'm interested.

Otherwise, I also looked at the refrigerated truck combination (or tractor+semi-trailer), but how much does a truck like that consume? Can you adapt it to run on oil?

That's all for today. Thanks in advance
SK Skrymir ·
Hi,

I'm certain that fuel consumption problems and environmental impact aren't off-topic in this forum.

20-30 liters per 100km is a real problem (for more and more people)

Biolea explains it well (especially since it's legal).....
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Létto ·
Hi everyone: I'd need some information about mounting a caravan on a Mercedes 508 heavy-duty 5t (modification, external regulations....) waiting for your replies, bye everyone!!! @+++🤪 eric_testu@hotmail.com thanks...
AL Allys ·
hey I read that you bought a Heuliez bus, so since I'm looking for one too (preferably in good condition) lol, I'm asking where you found it and how much you paid for it. I'd also like to know if buying a bus from a junkyard is a good solution, because I'm worried the repair costs might end up being too expensive. Regarding rapeseed oil, does it also work for generators??? thanks
CH Christian06 Veteran ·
Excerpt from the site: http://www.onpeutlefaire.com/articles/a-huile-vegetale-2.php

Photo of a generator running on vegetable oil for the past year and a half (direct injection) for biomusic concerts, a workshop, or a home—no fossil fuels or nuclear power. The original operating pressure is 185 bars. Recovered a vehicle cooling system reservoir (for the diesel) and a heavy-duty dual-tank valve. With the tanks positioned above the injection pump, there's no need for a priming pump. Power: 6 kW. Consumption: approximately 1 liter/hour. There are smaller diesel generators available (3, 5 kW). You can build a soundproofing enclosure using wooden boards and reclaimed automotive carpeting from junkyards, with ventilation for cooling.
CHRISTIAN

"Ne pas rire, ce n'est pas sérieux"
GX GX47 Regular ·
Hey Ally,

My bus is a special model because it has a rear door that opens like a hatch—perfect for loading gear! (It's a very rare option—a school emergency exit with a Heuliez patent, replacing the standard rear side-opening door.) I spotted it in a schoolyard behind a community hall during a show (I'm a magician). Two years later I'm back in the area for the same reason, and one morning when I arrive, there it is parked in front of the town hall. I ask about getting one equipped with this feature, and I write to them about it. Then 3 years later, the head of the school district calls me to ask if I'm still interested... etc., etc.... I go see it 200 km away, but it was in poor condition and the registration was expired. I negotiated, fixed it up, and got the registration sorted. I made a written offer (it's mandatory—the bus was government property), they issue a call for tenders, and I was by far the most generous bid, so that's how it went. (It cost me less than €2,000 to buy, but after that there's no end to it—registration, garage work at €50/hour, conversion, maintenance, fuel) you've got to budget for all that. (I have two axles to replace for the next MOT, and that's €1,500 alone.)

I advise against buying from a scrapyard. That was one of my first options, but you can't get a non-roadworthy vehicle out to fix it up, and you can't predict what the repairs will cost. Plus mechanics won't touch it because they know the bill can spiral and they won't get paid.

IT ENDS UP MORE EXPENSIVE. Scrapyards sell these buses to Africa for around €4,000 when you can find roadworthy ones for €2,000–€2,500, and the seller's so happy to be rid of it they'll thank you! And there are even some already registered for sale (my most expensive have been €5,000–€10,000). Since then I've found them regularly—look in magazines like "Charge Utile," "Auto-Rétro," "La Vie de l'Auto," "Échappement," "Comptoir," etc. But avoid COLLECTION REGISTRATION PLATES—they make it complicated to drive regularly.

As for rapeseed, that's already been covered.

Cheers, GX47
GX47

ex transformation, homologation et utilisation d'un car en CC 9places route en utilisation pro. Plus un CC 6pl VL, plus un fourgon en cabine approfondie 6 pl VL. si je peu aider...

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