Sécurité pour quatre filles en Bosnie et Serbie
by Cess104
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
on part à 4 filles de 20 ans environ et on voudrait traverser la bosnie et la serbie pour aller de budapest à dubrovnik (en croatie) en voiture et on voulait savoir si ce n'était pas trop dangereux? on prendrait plutot des grandes routes .. merci de répondre!
Bonsoir,
Si quelque chose est dangereux, ce sont peut-être bien justement les routes de transit. En fait tout dépend beaucoup du plomb que vous avez ou non dans la tête... 🤪
Michel
Si quelque chose est dangereux, ce sont peut-être bien justement les routes de transit. En fait tout dépend beaucoup du plomb que vous avez ou non dans la tête... 🤪
Michel
Non à priori pas plus de danger qu'ailleurs. J'ai voyagé plusieurs fois dans ces pays (et vécu un an en Serbie) seule, aucun souci, j'y ai même fait du stop.
Par contre la conduite laisse à désirer, mais ça ça n'a rien à voir avec les femmes 😛
Un ami m'a dit: Le monde serait meilleur si chacun-e regardait dans l'assiette de l'autre et y rajoutait ce qu'il y manque
On est parti à trois filles pour un grand périple allant de l 'Italie, Slovénie, Croatie, Serbie, Bulgarie, Grèce, Albanie, Macédoine, Kosovo, Montenegro, et Serbie, Croatie et retour par l'Italie pour regagner la France. Pendant ces 9000 km nous n'avons pas été plus ennuyées ou molestées que si nous étions une famille. Les passages aux douanes ont toujours été courtois même si quelquefois les douaniers plaisantaient avec nos passeports pour s'entraîner à dire nos prénoms français avec un accent...
Où nous avons eu "un peu plus peur" c'e'st surtout par rapport à l'état des routes et au trafic avec les camions en Albanie et en Bulgarie (à l'ouest moins sur la côte de la mer noire où c'est plus touristique). Souvent nous avons dû demander notre chemin et nous étions toujours bien accueillies et renseignées à la façon plutôt fantaisiste "c'est tout droit..." mais on s'y fait. En tout cas ce fut un très long mais beau voyage dont nous parlons encore après deux ans (août 2005)et dont nous avons rapporté de très bons souvenirs et une envie d'y retourner puisque nous repartons vers là-bas en août 2007.(Serbie, Kosovo, Macédoine et Grèce)
mary
Salut Mary et tous les autres!
Je pars aussi avec un ami en aout vers la grêce, l'objectif étant de traverser très rapidement la france et l'italie pour démarrer notre "road trip" en slovénie.
J connais un peu la solvénie, la croatie (pour y être allé la bas l'année dernière en transit pour budapest) mais ni la bosnie, l'albanie, le moténégro, la macédoine.
Ma question est donc la suivante:
Quelle trajet me conseilles tu de prendre pour la grêce: Par l'albanie an passant par la serbie et le monténégro ou par la macédoine, toujours en passant par la serbie?
En complément, pouvez vous me dire ce qu'il faut impérativement faire et éviter dans le coin (pour info on aime les gens, les routards, les paysages et pas trop les touristes;-))
Merci pour vos réponses baroudeurs de Fance et d'ailleurs.....
Merci pour vos réponses baroudeurs de Fance et d'ailleurs.....
Pour ne pas rater complètement notre précieux et probablement unique passage sur cette foutue planête, autant essayer de s'offrir quelques bons moments....
cette année nous avons decidé de prendre le bateau de l'italie à la grèce puis de remonter vers la serbie en traversant la macédoine, le monténégro et le kosovo car c'est le chemin le plus court malgré le passage par le kosovo qui nous coûte 50 euros d'assurance voiture mais les routes sont meilleures que par l'albanie où nous avions aussi dû payer un visa à la frontière grèce albanie (10 € par personne)Pour moi l'albanie est très intéressante à visiter mais les routes n'étaient pas très agréables et pas très bien pour la conduite avec tous les camions qui y circulent.Bon voyage et bon périple en août!
mary
Concernant l'albanie, je ne pourrais pas t'aider mais la frontière avec le montenegro vaut à elle seule le détour..le lac de skadar est magnifique..
sinon niveau sécurité je n'ai eu aucun soucis (slovénie, croatie, bosnie, montenégro, serbie..) pourtant on était en camion et on dormait aussi bien en ville, que dans des villages ou en pleine campagne... (me suis bien plus fait em....dée en france déjà...)
Bien cool vos p tites réponses Mary et Kro...j'en sais un peu plus dorénavant.
Et une dernière petite pour la route. N'y a t il pas trop de touriste en grêce au mois d'âout? Ce pays vaut il le cout d'être visité à cette période de l'année ou c'est l'affluence de Français, d'Allemands, d'occidentaux en chaussettes blanches/tongs de tout genre?
Merci pour votre dernière contribution. A+
Et une dernière petite pour la route. N'y a t il pas trop de touriste en grêce au mois d'âout? Ce pays vaut il le cout d'être visité à cette période de l'année ou c'est l'affluence de Français, d'Allemands, d'occidentaux en chaussettes blanches/tongs de tout genre?
Merci pour votre dernière contribution. A+
Pour ne pas rater complètement notre précieux et probablement unique passage sur cette foutue planête, autant essayer de s'offrir quelques bons moments....
Je n'ai jamais eu de problèmes et je les au pourtant tous traversés plusieurs fois. Après tout est une question de comportements et de bon sens. A l'étranger, dans un pays dont on ne parle pas la langue, on est plus vigilant quand on rencontre des gens ou qu'on leur demande des services, mais n'est-ce pas le cas partout y compris en France?
Les routes ou la situation politique et sociale ne présentent aucun risque pour les touristes en transit; méfiez vous juste de certains conducteurs en Serbie qui sont parfois imprudents et qui roulent vite comme les Croates. Le Kosovo n'est pas un problème non plus ! On peut y circuler sans difficulté, il faut juste envisager un visa de 25€ pour traverser la région et sur les routes, il peut y avoir quelques ralentissements avec des convois.
Le Montenegro est une belle expérience. Je ne vois pas pourquoi choisir : à l'aller, vous pourriez envisager de descendre par l'Albanie et au retour, remonter par l'autre route Macédoine, Serbie. Tous les pays valent le détours. Maintenant, les routes albanaises sont mauvaises, les pires d'Europe probablement et ce n'est pas forcément agréable d'y rouler! La Serbie possède de belles autoroutes pas très chères et les routes en Macédoine sont très correctes, de même que l'autoroute jusqu'à la capitale! Skopje (mis à part pour son bazar; quelques mosquées et sa citadelle) présente moins d'intérêt que Ohrid et la région des lacs, à mon sens.
Les routes ou la situation politique et sociale ne présentent aucun risque pour les touristes en transit; méfiez vous juste de certains conducteurs en Serbie qui sont parfois imprudents et qui roulent vite comme les Croates. Le Kosovo n'est pas un problème non plus ! On peut y circuler sans difficulté, il faut juste envisager un visa de 25€ pour traverser la région et sur les routes, il peut y avoir quelques ralentissements avec des convois.
Le Montenegro est une belle expérience. Je ne vois pas pourquoi choisir : à l'aller, vous pourriez envisager de descendre par l'Albanie et au retour, remonter par l'autre route Macédoine, Serbie. Tous les pays valent le détours. Maintenant, les routes albanaises sont mauvaises, les pires d'Europe probablement et ce n'est pas forcément agréable d'y rouler! La Serbie possède de belles autoroutes pas très chères et les routes en Macédoine sont très correctes, de même que l'autoroute jusqu'à la capitale! Skopje (mis à part pour son bazar; quelques mosquées et sa citadelle) présente moins d'intérêt que Ohrid et la région des lacs, à mon sens.
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Hm, à mon avis la Grèce en Août, c'est bourré de touristes. Mais c'est comme partout, en s'éloignant des sentiers battus... tu trouveras sûrement des coins tranquilles. Bien sûr si vous voulez voir l'acropole et autres vieilles pierres, à mon avis Août est le mois le pire.
Un ami m'a dit: Le monde serait meilleur si chacun-e regardait dans l'assiette de l'autre et y rajoutait ce qu'il y manque
bonjour de budapest tu descend par le lac balaton et tu traverse la bosnie via banja luca et mostar pour reprendre ensuite la rt de dubrownik je l ai fait en 2001 en moto la route est tres belle et le contact avec les bosniaques tres chaleureux arretez vous pour manger de l agneau grillé, il est difficile de communiquer mais ca vaut le coup d essayer en 2001 a banja luca les panneaux de direction etait en caractere syrillique et donc difficile de traduire mais il y a toujours quelqu un pour renseigner, les routes etait en bon etat sauf quelques ponts ou il fallait faire attention mais ca a du changer depuis 6 ans !!c est quand meme un grand contraste par rapport a la cote adriatique en croatie ou tout est voue au touriste !!!j ai garde un tres bon souvenir de cette traverse de la bosnie et je pense y retourner bientot bon voyage
bonjour a tous
je voudrais me rendre en serbie au mois d'aout, et surtout aller au festival de guca... souci je pars seule !!
je souhaiterai pouvoir entrer en contact avec des personnes qui seront la bas au mois d'aout et sinon si vous pouviez me donner quelques indications par rapport a ce festival, a la serbie en général, ce qu'il y a à éviter lorsqu'on est une fille et qu'on part seule la bas...si vous avez des bons plans pour l'hébergement, et si vous savez ce qu'il y a à faire d'incontournable en serbie... je suis un peu inquiète par ce voyage à l'idée de partir seule, c'est une première expérience... j'ai besoin de conseils avisés!!
merci de répondre!😊
Bonjour,
Très franchement, voyager seule en Serbie impose exactement les mêmes prudences qu'en France ; ni plus ni moins.
Michel
Très franchement, voyager seule en Serbie impose exactement les mêmes prudences qu'en France ; ni plus ni moins.
Michel
Exactement la même réponse que Tatra. Je dirai même qu'en ce qui concerne ma propre expérience, je me suis souvent sentie plus en sécurité, en temps que femme, en Serbie qu'en France (en ville notamment). Il faut rester prudente, normal, mais tu n'as vraiment pas de soucis à te faire. En plus à Guca, tu rencontreras sûrement plein de français.
Le conseil que je donne à tout le monde, c'est de faire l'effort d'apprendre quelques phrases de serbe avant de partir, c'est toujours agréable pour un-e serbe de voir qu'on s'intéresse un peu à sa culture.
Le conseil que je donne à tout le monde, c'est de faire l'effort d'apprendre quelques phrases de serbe avant de partir, c'est toujours agréable pour un-e serbe de voir qu'on s'intéresse un peu à sa culture.
Un ami m'a dit: Le monde serait meilleur si chacun-e regardait dans l'assiette de l'autre et y rajoutait ce qu'il y manque
ok je comprnds... mais est ce facile de se déplacer la bas? faut il prévoir un minimum les étapes du voyage? et concernant guca je ne parle pas un mot mais je voudrais quand meme assurer un endroit pour dormir le temps du festival...comment s'y prendre? faut il appeler la bas les auberges d jeunesse ou camping ? faut il vraimnt organiser les choses?? et savez vous si le village construit par kusturica est visitable?
quelqu'un pourrait me dire a quoi ressemble la ville de jagodina pace que je dois m'y rendre début aout... merci d vos réponses j'avoue tout ça me stress un peu! 😕
Salut!
Pour Guca, je ne peux pas t'aider, mais je crois qu'il est possible de camper sur place, et ce gratuitement, par contre c'est bourré de monde.
Pour Jagodina, ben oui je connais 🙂 Mon coloc était de cette ville. C'est une ville serbe comme toutes les autres à mon sens, pas très belle, sans réel centre ville, des bâtiments gris... bref une ville serbe quoi! Que va tu donc faire là-bas?
Je t'envoie un email, comme ça tu auras le mien, mais tu ne devrais pas laissser ton email en clair sur un forum, tu vas te faire spammer.
Je t'envoie un email, comme ça tu auras le mien, mais tu ne devrais pas laissser ton email en clair sur un forum, tu vas te faire spammer.
Un ami m'a dit: Le monde serait meilleur si chacun-e regardait dans l'assiette de l'autre et y rajoutait ce qu'il y manque
Bonjour à toi,
je viens de voir que tu partais en Serbie pour Guca festival et seule.Il se trouve justement que nous sommes 4 nanas coolos de 22, 23 et 24 ans à partir aussi pour cette belle aventure alors si tu veux te joindre à nous ce sera avec plaisir.
En ce qui concerne le trajet, nous partons de Marseille mais nous ne sommes pas véhiculées.Le car semble tout indiqué en raison des bas prix.
Par contre au niveau de l'hébergement, c'est camping sauvage pour tout le monde sans la moindre crainte.Il suffit seulement d'être prudentes comme partout alors si tu veux qu'on se retrouve là bas directement, il n'y a aucun soucis et puis de cette façon, tu seras sans doute un peu moins stressée😉.
Tiens moi au courant de tes dates de départ (de Paris j'imagine) et de ton jour d'arrivé sur le site du festoch afin qu'on puisse se donner un point de rencart sur place.
Ceci dit, j'ai cru comprendre que tu partais assez tôt pour visiter un peu ce beau pays avant de te lancer dans la grande et incessante fanfare de Guca.
Je pense aussi que nous partirons plus tôt c'est à dire le 2 ou 3 Août mais rien n'est sûr.
Ecoute je te laisse mon numéro si tu veux me joindre, je pense aussi que c'est beaucoup plus simple : 06 60 26 95 99.
Bonne journée et à bientôt.
Flo
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I’m spending a week in Morocco (Rabat - Meknes - Fes).
I’ll be traveling solo—is it safe for a woman over 60?
For transportation, I’m planning to take the train. I was thinking of buying my ticket last minute, but it’s around the end-of-year period…?
I’ll be in Meknes on December 31st—any suggestions on how they celebrate New Year’s Eve there?
Is anyone visiting these destinations? Maybe we could meet up…?
Thanks in advance.
Hi there,
After hearing so much about Djerba, especially the GO clubs, is it risky for a young, pretty newly-retired woman to visit the island alone?
Thanks in advance.
Hi,
Does anyone know how late the buses run from Cusco Airport to the city center? I land at 9:30 PM, plus time to clear customs, pick up my luggage, and exchange some money—figure an extra 30 to 45 minutes. Though, come to think of it, I still have 5 sols from last time—maybe that’ll be enough for the bus?
Thanks.
Brigitte
Planned arrival on Sunday evening, November 16, 2025, in San José. Staying 3 nights, then taking a bus to Tortuguero for 2 nights. Looking for a shared shuttle to La Fortuna for 2 nights, then a van-boat-van combo to Santa Elena for 2 or 3 nights. Heading to Quepos for 4 nights for day trips using local buses—Jaco, San Antonio, Uvita. After that, a full-day bus ride to Cahuita. I’m booking hotels as I go, which gives me the flexibility to stay longer in places I like. I’m looking for accommodations in city centers near restaurants and not too far from the bus station. Budget: 50 € for a room with a private bathroom (if you’ve got any great tips!). For my finale, I’ll cross the land border to Panama City for 4 days. Thanks for your suggestions! 😉
As I mentioned before, I’m heading to Istanbul next summer, and I’ve heard there have been quite a few attacks by Kurds in Turkey recently, which is making me hesitate about my trip.
What do you all think? :( I’m wondering if it’s really a good idea to go...
What do you all think? :( I’m wondering if it’s really a good idea to go...
Hi everyone,
I’m 66 and just discovered solo travel in Uzbekistan—I loved it! So I’ve decided to explore Africa, starting with Senegal. I’m just beginning my research, but if anyone can give me advice on which month to go, what to see, and whether this destination is safe—or maybe suggest another African country—I’d really appreciate your tips!
Hi there!
We’re leaving in early November for a month.
Here’s our itinerary:
Arrival in Takhmau, then heading to:
Kampong Cham
Kratie – 2 days
Mondolkiri – 3 days
Ratanakiri – 3 days
Stung Treng – 1 day
Siem Reap – 4 days
Battambang – 1 day
Kampong Chhnang – 3 days
Kampot – 2 days
Islands (WE’RE HESITATING WHICH ONE?) – 4 DAYS
Phnom Penh – 2 days
That’s it! 😊
We’re backpacking… and we love spots that aren’t too touristy. If you’ve got any tips, we’re all ears!
Thanks
Hi there,
We’d like to stay in Switzerland for five days.
There are two of us (women).
We don’t know this country at all.
What cities or affordable spots would you recommend for visiting?
Cheap accommodation.
Looking for community-based options.
And being close to public transport.
Thanks for your tips and experiences!
Best regards.
Hi there,
I was wondering if anyone has taken a Rede Expressos bus from Lisbon Airport to Lagos, and if so, where exactly at the airport you need to board it? I’m worried I’ll get lost and miss my bus...
Hi again,
I’m adding more details to my info request. Here are two proposed itineraries. We’re hesitating:
Colombo - Unawatuna 2 days - Sinharaja 1 day - Bandarawela 2 days - Kandy 3 days - Dambulla 2 days - Wilpattu Park 1 day - Kalpitiya 3 days - Negombo 1 day
What should we change or add a day for to include Jaffna?
Or: Negombo 1 day - Anuradhapura 2 days - Jaffna 2 days - Sigiriya 2 days - Dambulla 1 day - Kandy 2 days - Ella 1 day - Galle 3 days For your advice. Is it better to finish in Galle or Kalpitiya? Thanks in advance! Nicole
Or: Negombo 1 day - Anuradhapura 2 days - Jaffna 2 days - Sigiriya 2 days - Dambulla 1 day - Kandy 2 days - Ella 1 day - Galle 3 days For your advice. Is it better to finish in Galle or Kalpitiya? Thanks in advance! Nicole
Hello everyone,
This is a warning message! I’d like to address it especially to young women traveling alone for the first time in India. Other travelers may react to my post based on their own experiences, but I think what I’m about to say shouldn’t be taken lightly—unless that’s what you’re looking for!
Last July, I traveled to Northern India. I stopped in Khajuraho to see the famous tantric temples. I stayed one night, and that was more than enough. Khajuraho is very touristy, but you should know that 80% of young Indian men there are "gigolos." Locals call these young men (aged 18 to 30) "playboys" or "Lapka" (which means "capture the woman" in Hindi)!!!
They approach tourists with kindness and politeness, offering tea or a motorcycle ride (which they’ve often gotten from generous Western female tourists) to waterfalls a few kilometers from Khajuraho or other tourist sites. After befriending you, they charm you—be careful, these are professionals who are very skilled at this; it’s all they do, and they do it well. They’ll offer you food, drinks, and even temple entry to confuse you. They’ll suggest spending the evening or even the night with them. **Refuse (unless you’re into local flings and that’s why you came)!!!!**
At first, you’ll be seduced by their generosity, let your guard down, and then they’ll make you believe in *true love*. They won’t leave you alone and will keep in touch via email or phone if you give them your details. The lines they use to soften you up and scam you include: *"I’m the only one taking care of my family, my brother is sick, I don’t know what to do..."* All of this is to manipulate you into offering them money. They’ll never ask for it outright (to avoid being exposed) but will wait for you to suggest it.
If you receive emails from them, they’ll never be signed, and their name won’t appear in the email address (to avoid leaving traces). They use fake names to avoid being reported. If you believe their sob stories and offer help, they’ll give you a bank account number to send money via Western Union. These young men make a living from this—selling their bodies and scamming people! They’re very skilled, charming, manipulative, and *big-time cheaters*!
(Especially one young man who goes by the alias *Tony*—apparently the most skilled. He lives in a hotel near the lake, *Krishna Cottage*, and is in regular contact via Skype with Western women he’s tricked into believing he loves them while shamelessly scamming them. He even opened an internet café on the roof of the hotel with money he stole from women who fell for his charm.)
So, young romantic women craving love, sensitive singles, or anyone emotionally vulnerable—**don’t let yourself be scammed!!!** This behavior is becoming more common in India and is still relatively unknown. Male prostitution is on the rise, and cases of romantic scams and financial fraud by gigolos are increasing.
This is a warning message! I’d like to address it especially to young women traveling alone for the first time in India. Other travelers may react to my post based on their own experiences, but I think what I’m about to say shouldn’t be taken lightly—unless that’s what you’re looking for!
Last July, I traveled to Northern India. I stopped in Khajuraho to see the famous tantric temples. I stayed one night, and that was more than enough. Khajuraho is very touristy, but you should know that 80% of young Indian men there are "gigolos." Locals call these young men (aged 18 to 30) "playboys" or "Lapka" (which means "capture the woman" in Hindi)!!!
They approach tourists with kindness and politeness, offering tea or a motorcycle ride (which they’ve often gotten from generous Western female tourists) to waterfalls a few kilometers from Khajuraho or other tourist sites. After befriending you, they charm you—be careful, these are professionals who are very skilled at this; it’s all they do, and they do it well. They’ll offer you food, drinks, and even temple entry to confuse you. They’ll suggest spending the evening or even the night with them. **Refuse (unless you’re into local flings and that’s why you came)!!!!**
At first, you’ll be seduced by their generosity, let your guard down, and then they’ll make you believe in *true love*. They won’t leave you alone and will keep in touch via email or phone if you give them your details. The lines they use to soften you up and scam you include: *"I’m the only one taking care of my family, my brother is sick, I don’t know what to do..."* All of this is to manipulate you into offering them money. They’ll never ask for it outright (to avoid being exposed) but will wait for you to suggest it.
If you receive emails from them, they’ll never be signed, and their name won’t appear in the email address (to avoid leaving traces). They use fake names to avoid being reported. If you believe their sob stories and offer help, they’ll give you a bank account number to send money via Western Union. These young men make a living from this—selling their bodies and scamming people! They’re very skilled, charming, manipulative, and *big-time cheaters*!
(Especially one young man who goes by the alias *Tony*—apparently the most skilled. He lives in a hotel near the lake, *Krishna Cottage*, and is in regular contact via Skype with Western women he’s tricked into believing he loves them while shamelessly scamming them. He even opened an internet café on the roof of the hotel with money he stole from women who fell for his charm.)
So, young romantic women craving love, sensitive singles, or anyone emotionally vulnerable—**don’t let yourself be scammed!!!** This behavior is becoming more common in India and is still relatively unknown. Male prostitution is on the rise, and cases of romantic scams and financial fraud by gigolos are increasing.
hi everyone! I’d like to visit Montreal and the surrounding areas in August, and I’ve got 3 weeks of vacation. I’m traveling alone and will be visiting my daughter, who recently moved there. She’ll be working and only available in the evenings! So I’m torn between spending a week in Montreal, then taking a flight to Cuba, and returning to France from Havana—or staying in Montreal and exploring the nearby areas alone.
For my first idea—going to Cuba—is it feasible in terms of administrative formalities and legality? And for my second idea, is it possible to take buses? If so, is it too expensive? And are there many places served by them?
Thanks for your advice! Jocelyne
For my first idea—going to Cuba—is it feasible in terms of administrative formalities and legality? And for my second idea, is it possible to take buses? If so, is it too expensive? And are there many places served by them?
Thanks for your advice! Jocelyne
From FES, I’d like to spend a few days in:
MEKNES
CHEFCHAOUEN
TETOUAN
and then return to FES.
I’m planning this trip in November.
Thanks for your tips!
I just got back from an unforgettable road trip in Madagascar where I drove down the legendary RN7. It connects Tana (the capital) to Tulear.
Since we were traveling as a group of girls, we decided to go with a guide. I’d never done an “organized” trip before, but I have to say we loved this first tailor-made travel experience.
From the highlands of the Red Island
down to the west coast, by the Mozambique Channel.
Vast landscapes as far as the eye can see
Human encounters
Discovering ancestral artisanal know-how
Sunsets over the ochre mountains
Intense, precious moments with my friends
We loved the mountains, visits to artisans, and the parties too ;-)
We used local guides to show us specific spots (like Isalo National Park, where we were able to bivouac)
Hi there,
My friend and I are traveling together between October and November 2025—no exact dates yet.
We’d love to step away from the typical travel agency packages and are hoping to rent a car locally and stay with locals, living with them rather than in a vacation rental.
Does anyone know if this is possible? Thanks in advance for your advice and tips! Warm regards to all
Does anyone know if this is possible? Thanks in advance for your advice and tips! Warm regards to all